IRC logs of #shogun for Thursday, 2011-03-31

--- Log opened Thu Mar 31 00:00:36 2011
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theoryno3#topic02:23
theoryno3lol02:23
theoryno3Hello group. I've not used IRC since grades school.02:24
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sonney2ktheoryno3, time to show us your leet skillz then ;-)06:38
theoryno3sonney2k, Haha you must mean "l33t" ;-)06:41
sonney2kindeed06:41
siddharthsonney2k, I already have shogun working on my linux but I installed it before you transitioned shogun repositories to git07:08
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siddharthso is it necessary to checkout shogun from git and compile?07:08
sonney2ksiddharth, yes sorry but it was about time to switch...07:08
sonney2ksiddharth, it is very easy too luckily07:08
sonney2kjust issue: git clone git://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun.git07:09
sonney2kthen compile as usual07:09
siddharthok :)07:10
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hiteshkhi14:16
sonney2khi...14:17
hiteshkhi , sonney2k are you one of the mentors14:17
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sonney2kyes14:18
hiteshkI had some questions about implementing machine learning algos project14:19
hiteshkI had mailed the mentors mentioned on the website two days ago but no reply14:20
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makokalhi14:21
makokalI also wanted to ask about some of the projects14:21
makokalI wanted to work online learning14:26
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sonney2kmakokal, ok makes sense - so what would you propose? a bit of the framework and some code pulling from vowpal wabbit14:33
makokalexactly, I have pulled the code from vowpal and starting looking into it today14:36
makokalto get a feeling14:36
makokalthen I can see a concrete way to go14:36
sonney2kI think it would make sense to organize it in some way where you have streaming features, i.e. the learning algorihtm can only say: please give me the next example14:44
sonney2kand that's it14:45
sonney2kthan write some functions that stream from files, network sockets or so (whatever vw does)14:45
makokalya14:45
makokalI'm still getting my head around whats exists so far14:45
makokalthanks sonney2k for the bits14:47
sonney2kmakokal, np ...14:50
sonney2khiteshk, whom did you email?14:51
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hiteshkI mailed Vojtech Franc15:12
hiteshkand  Soeren Sonnenburg15:12
sonney2khiteshk, I am Soeren... so I must have missed the email15:14
hiteshkI am interested in the project Implement SVMbright a GPL'ed version of SVMLight and make it publicly available and have read the Joachims98 ref that you have given15:16
hiteshkI am quite versed with SVMs , could you tell me what I should write in my proposal15:17
sonney2khiteshk, well then the the plan how you would implemt all the parts of the svmlight paper15:17
sonney2kyou cannot look at the svmlight source code for that though15:19
hiteshksvmlight paper is the same as Joachims98 ref right , do you want me to tell plan the language and the timetable15:19
sonney2kwell C++ and finish before the end :)15:19
sonney2kI guess, 1) basic chunking algo 2) selection of working set 3) kernel caching 4) shrinking 5) linear case speedup and porting of some things from svmlight (that I wrote) to svmbright15:20
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hiteshkthe algos are written in the paper , so what do I write in my proposal15:27
sonney2k?15:27
sonney2kwell how you would implement them?15:28
sonney2ke.g. function names, time line / how you keep e.g. alphas such things15:28
hiteshkOk , so a detailed design15:29
sonney2kI mean the algos in the paper are not C++ but just pseudocode.15:29
hiteshkya got it , I also wanted to know about Implement framework for online learning project15:34
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siddharth_sonney2k, Apart from Olivier Chapelles primal SVM solver,I am looking at other machine learning algorithms which can be integrated into shogun16:35
siddharth_i am currently looking into mloss.org site16:35
siddharth_so I was wondering if u have any ideas about this16:36
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@sonney2ksiddharth_, well it is best to choose something that you might want to use16:53
@sonney2kotherwise it is not really motivating...16:53
siddharth_sonney2k, yes I want to do SVM related work...so I am looking into that16:55
@sonney2ksimplesvm maybe http://mloss.org/software/view/26/16:55
siddharth_sonney2k, thanks...Also how to report success for installing shogun17:03
siddharth_should we provide something or words would do :P17:03
@sonney2kwords do (I hope I don't regret this ;)17:04
siddharth_:)17:05
@sonney2k(mention it in the proposal)17:05
siddharth_ok17:06
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@knrrrdk3wl17:16
@sonney2kio17:16
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* Ziyuan Say hello18:06
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@sonney2khi Ziyuan18:08
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@knrrrd!calc 2 * pi18:42
@knrrrd!calc 15*218:44
@bettyboo15*2 = 3018:44
@knrrrd!calc 2*pi+e18:44
@bettybooerror calculating '2*pi+e' (invalid bareword "pi"18:44
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@knrrrd!calc 2*PI18:44
@bettybooerror calculating '2*PI' (invalid bareword "PI"18:44
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@knrrrd!calc 2*%PI18:44
@bettybooerror calculating '2*%PI' (missing operand at _@_18:44
@sonney2k!help18:46
@knrrrd!calc 15+2*(3+4)18:46
@bettyboo15+2*(3+4) = 2918:46
* sonney2k prepares for the advanced calculus as presented by dr knrrrd 18:47
@knrrrd!calc 3*%pi+2+318:49
@bettyboo3*%pi+2+3 = 14.4247779607693818:49
* sonney2k wonders what kind of diameter that is18:50
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@knrrrdBettyboo, calculate %pi / 318:52
@knrrrdyou don't need to, if you don't want18:52
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@knrrrd!slang nerd19:01
@bettybooNerd is one whose iq exceeds his weight.19:01
@knrrrd!slang shogun19:02
@bettybooShogun is in the feudeal japan, the shogun title was know as the supreme military commander. the goverment they etablished were called bakufu.19:02
@sonney2k!slang konrad19:02
@bettybookonrad is incredibly attractive and chivalrous. also tend to be funny and smart.19:02
@knrrrd!slang 2 konrad19:03
@bettybookonrad is when someone takes something over the top to unecessary levels of agression.19:03
@knrrrd!slang toolbox19:04
@bettybootoolbox is more toolish than just a tool, but not quite as toolish as an entire toolshed19:04
@sonney2k!slang machine learning19:05
@bettyboo<a href="/define.php?term=Democrat%20Attack%20Machine&amp;defid=2854777">Democrat Attack Machine</a> is the democrat attack machine (dam) consists of the following groups (including but not limited to): - main stream media (msm) outlets such as abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc, pbs - newspapers such as the new york times, the los angeles times and the washington post - magazine like time, newsweek and19:06
@bettybooOutput truncated. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%3ca%20href%3d%22%2fdefine.php%3fterm%3dDemocrat%2520Attack%2520Machine%26amp%3bdefid%3d2854777%22%3eDemocrat%20Attack%20Machine%3c%2fa%3e&defid=285477719:06
@knrrrd!slang machine19:06
@bettybooMachine is an extremely attractive member of the opposite sex.19:06
aifargonos!slang shogun19:07
@bettybooShogun is in the feudeal japan, the shogun title was know as the supreme military commander. the goverment they etablished were called bakufu.19:07
aifargonos... wrong spelling "etablished"19:07
aifargonosor is it new word I dont know ??19:07
@knrrrdno, it looks like a typo at urbandictionary19:08
@knrrrd!wiki svm19:12
@knrrrd!wiki svm19:12
@knrrrd!wiki kernel19:14
@knrrrd!wiki kernel_trick19:15
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@knrrrd!seen knrrrd19:29
@bettybooknrrrd, go look in a mirror.19:29
@knrrrdbettyboo, you are right. sorry.19:31
aifargonos... or turn on webcam ...19:31
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@knrrrdbettyboo: you should rejoin that often19:48
@bettybooknrrrd: this has been a long day.19:48
@sonney2kooohh19:49
@knrrrd!talkz save19:50
@knrrrdbettyboo: how are you doing?19:53
@bettybooknrrrd: What's up?19:53
@knrrrdbettyboo: I am fine.19:54
@bettybooknrrrd: this has been a long day.19:54
@knrrrdbettyboo: yeah. a lot of work and not many results. so far19:54
@bettybooknrrrd: What's up?19:54
@knrrrdbettyboo: I told you, I am fine.19:54
@bettybooknrrrd: What's up?19:54
@knrrrdbettyboo: this is starting to get boring.19:54
@bettybooknrrrd: this has been a long day.19:54
@knrrrdbettyboo: why are you repeating yourself over and over?19:55
@bettybooknrrrd: I am fine.19:55
@knrrrdbettyboo: no. you are not. something seems wrong.19:56
@bettybooknrrrd: yeah. a lot of work and not many results. so far19:56
@knrrrdbettyboo, i am heading home.20:01
@bettybooknrrrd: boring...20:01
@knrrrdbettyboo, yeah. that's why i am leaving now.20:01
@bettybooknrrrd: boring...20:01
@knrrrdbettyboo, but you are interested in shogun?20:02
@bettybooknrrrd: you should rejoin that often20:02
@knrrrdbettyboo, seriously. shogun is great20:02
@bettybooknrrrd: why are you repeating yourself over and over?20:02
@knrrrdbettyboo, i don't know.20:03
@bettybooknrrrd: how are you doing?20:03
@sonney2kbettyboo, gute nacht!20:08
@bettyboosonney2k: seriously. shogun is great20:08
@sonney2kthese bots nowadays...20:29
@knrrrdbettyboo: I am home now20:32
@bettybooknrrrd: gute nacht!20:33
@knrrrdbettyboo: thank you20:33
@bettybooknrrrd: this is starting to get boring.20:33
@knrrrdbettyboo: Ok20:33
@bettybooknrrrd: i don't know.20:33
@knrrrdbettyboo: What?20:33
@bettybooknrrrd: why are you repeating yourself over and over?20:33
@knrrrdbettyboo: I don't get it20:34
@bettybooknrrrd: I am fine.20:34
@knrrrdWhy?20:34
@knrrrdbettyboo: Sorry20:34
@bettybooknrrrd: I am tired.20:34
@knrrrdbettyboo: Me too20:34
@bettybooknrrrd: I don't get it20:34
@knrrrdbettyboo: me tired20:35
@bettybooknrrrd: I told you, I am fine.20:35
@knrrrdbettyboo: okay20:35
@bettybooknrrrd: i am heading home.20:35
@knrrrdbettyboo: Enjoy your time20:35
@bettybooknrrrd: Me too20:35
@knrrrdbettyboo: can you tell more?20:36
@bettybooknrrrd: this has been a long day.20:36
@knrrrdbettyboo: Need some more info20:36
@bettybooknrrrd: can you tell more?20:36
@knrrrdbettyboo: Where are you?20:36
@bettybooknrrrd: seriously. shogun is great20:36
@knrrrdbettyboo: I am looking forward to this20:37
@bettybooknrrrd: I am tired.20:37
@knrrrdbettyboo: Do you like this?20:37
@bettybooknrrrd: no. you are not. something seems wrong.20:37
@knrrrdbettyboo: I am trying to get better20:38
@bettybooknrrrd: Need some more info20:38
@knrrrdbettyboo: I just started and need to learn a lot20:38
@bettybooknrrrd: Need some more info20:38
@knrrrdbettyboo: Do you know more?20:38
@bettybooknrrrd: can you tell more?20:38
@knrrrdbettyboo: I was asking you20:39
@bettybooknrrrd: What?20:39
@knrrrdbettyboo: I am asking for more details20:39
@bettybooknrrrd: i don't know.20:39
@knrrrdbettyboo: Great20:39
@bettybooknrrrd: thank you20:39
@knrrrdbettyboo: Cool20:39
@bettybooknrrrd: I am looking forward to this20:39
@knrrrdbettyboo: That's good to hear20:40
@bettybooknrrrd: I don't get it20:40
@knrrrdbettyboo: Just have fun :)20:40
@bettybooknrrrd: That's good to hear20:40
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@knrrrdbettyboo: Time to leave. See you20:40
@bettybooknrrrd: I don't get it20:41
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serialhexbettyboo: whats the answer to life, the universe and everything?20:52
@bettybooserialhex: Enjoy your time20:52
serialhex...? stoopit bot! :P20:52
aifargonosXD20:52
serialhexsonny, you paying attention?20:53
serialhex...i guess that what one should ask, seeing as he's on :P20:54
serialhexsonney2k: you paying attention?20:55
serialhex...guess not :-/20:59
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serialhexhmm... ok then21:05
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@bettybooaifargonos: me tired22:48
aifargonosbettyboo: are you joking ?? why did you pick me ??22:49
@bettybooaifargonos: but you are interested in shogun?22:49
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aifargonosaaw .. there was finally somebody talking to me .. XD22:51
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