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| blackburn | sonney2k: seems to be late but thank you ;) | 00:53 |
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| serialhex | good! nobody said horrible things about me while i was away :P | 01:34 |
| @bettyboo | 8) | 01:34 |
| blackburn | yeah we didn't | 01:38 |
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| @sonney2k | ...not officially ;-) | 07:10 |
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| blackburn | sonney2k: how it's going? is clock ticking? :) | 08:42 |
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| sploving | sonney2k, are you around? | 09:48 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, yes | 09:48 |
| @sonney2k | did you look at the java typemaps? | 09:48 |
| sploving | I wrote a small typemap file, but test failed | 09:49 |
| sploving | for java vector | 09:49 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, what happens? | 09:50 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, do you have some code I can look at? | 09:51 |
| sploving | http://pastebin.com/Nxq13u7c | 09:52 |
| sploving | I have something other. I will be back soon | 09:52 |
| sploving | it is the code and exmaple in the pastbin | 09:52 |
| sploving | see you | 09:52 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, please submit a patch for that - I will merge it - it is ok that it does not work (but has to compile) | 09:55 |
| * sonney2k is away now too | 09:57 | |
| sploving | sonney2k, I am back | 10:09 |
| sploving | but it does not work | 10:09 |
| sploving | I think I should make it work well | 10:09 |
| sploving | then submit | 10:10 |
| sploving | sonney2k, I submit | 10:15 |
| sploving | it could compile although not work now | 10:15 |
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| sploving | hi sonney2k, are you there | 13:30 |
| sploving | I commit twice. the second could work! | 13:31 |
| sploving | I wanted to pull request, but it told me that "there is already a pull request" | 13:31 |
| sploving | so when you have time. please merge it. thx:0 | 13:32 |
| sploving | :) | 13:32 |
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| @sonney2k | I will try it in 1 hour. | 13:41 |
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| @sonney2k | ok back | 14:46 |
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| CIA-90 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r046e59e / (2 files in 2 dirs): Merge git://github.com/sploving/shogun (+5 more commits...) - http://bit.ly/iLppMY | 15:25 |
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| sploving | hello sonney2k, are you around? | 15:39 |
| sploving | I tried to wrap it likes "double[] y = x.get_labels();" but failed | 15:40 |
| sploving | this may take some time to improve it | 15:40 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, I see | 15:41 |
| @sonney2k | could you find any typemap example that does something similar? | 15:41 |
| sploving | I tried. but not find it now. i want to know that will "x.get_labels(y)" be OK for | 15:42 |
| sploving | the who project? | 15:42 |
| sploving | you know, every language has its special | 15:42 |
| @sonney2k | I mean it must be possible to create a java vector and from C and then pass that back to java | 15:42 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, did you search for related java typemaps? | 15:42 |
| sploving | yeap | 15:43 |
| sploving | maybe there is something missing | 15:43 |
| @sonney2k | http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/swig/swig-4/swig/Lib/java/various.i | 15:44 |
| sploving | that is for char array | 15:45 |
| @sonney2k | String numbers[] = { "one", "two", "three" }; | 15:45 |
| @sonney2k | * String[] ret = modulename.foo( numbers }; | 15:45 |
| @sonney2k | this seems to at least return a String[] ret | 15:45 |
| @sonney2k | so it should be possible for arrays too | 15:45 |
| blackburn | wow | 15:45 |
| sploving | OK. I will take a look at it. | 15:45 |
| sploving | and improve it tommorrow. | 15:46 |
| blackburn | these typemaps rocks | 15:46 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, coder pr0n | 15:46 |
| sploving | sonney2k, do you think that I need look at the source code of shogun ? | 15:46 |
| sploving | after the java typemap? | 15:46 |
| sploving | like the Kernel, Features and so on | 15:47 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, I am not sure what you are asking | 15:47 |
| sploving | I mean I did not understand any code of shogun classes | 15:47 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, no - once the typemaps work everything of shogun should work there too (if there are no unexpected issues) | 15:47 |
| @sonney2k | unexpected issues could be crashes related to garbage collection etc | 15:48 |
| sploving | OK. I know. | 15:48 |
| * sonney2k crosses fingers that this doesn't happen | 15:48 | |
| serialhex | sonney2k: i love you! | 15:49 |
| sploving | java typemap is a little difficult than others | 15:49 |
| serialhex | that link is f*cking awesome & will make my life sooo much easier!!!! | 15:49 |
| sploving | I will take a look at it more to understand it better | 15:49 |
| sploving | serialhex, | 15:49 |
| sploving | have you written any typemap files? | 15:50 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, blackburn I think we might need to replace things like double*, int -> SGVector | 15:50 |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, there are examples for ruby too I think | 15:50 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I love you | 15:50 |
| blackburn | :D | 15:50 |
| * sonney2k feels much loved ;-) | 15:50 | |
| sploving | which is SGVector? | 15:50 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: yeah, I think it is a good idea | 15:50 |
| sploving | I have no meaning about it | 15:50 |
| serialhex | sploving: i'm working on the ruby one now... i was studying all the wrong stuff pre-gsoc so now i have to re-study | 15:51 |
| * sonney2k shares love with all of the shogun developers | 15:51 | |
| serialhex | yeah sonney2k, i mentioned my love for you after i found the ruby one :D | 15:51 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, a struct like struct SGVector { double* vec, int len } | 15:51 |
| blackburn | and SGMatrix may be ? | 15:52 |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, yes sorry but all this love business won't work you know I have a wife already and kids ;-) | 15:52 |
| sploving | then all the typemap files will need rewritten? | 15:52 |
| @bettyboo | great | 15:52 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes and some SGNDArray type too | 15:52 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, which would be easy though (I think one can even do this with a sed script) | 15:53 |
| serialhex | yeah sonney2k, and long-distance relationships dont work that well anyway :P | 15:53 |
| @bettyboo | hrhr! | 15:53 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, the difficulty would be to do that through all of shogun | 15:53 |
| blackburn | daily gay jokes on shogun | 15:53 |
| sploving | Do you think that it is easy to replece them? as there are a lot of classes | 15:53 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, no it is not easy | 15:53 |
| blackburn | we will crash shogun a little | 15:53 |
| blackburn | :D | 15:54 |
| serialhex | well i'm off for a bit... bbl. hopefully i'll have some spiffy code to show you on monday sploving | 15:54 |
| serialhex | ...if not sooner | 15:54 |
| sploving | So I think this should be done later. or else this will affect the gsoc project | 15:54 |
| @sonney2k | since I cannot do this until <date of birth> I would want to postpone this until after the first gsoc deadline | 15:54 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, or that - but I hope we manage to do earlier | 15:55 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, and don't worry it does not affect every student and also not that much - I mean code will continue to work we just have to change typemaps to have a different signature and then the routines and internal represenations one by one | 15:56 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: oh yeah! revolution! just like in 1917 | 15:57 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes with the CClassifier -> CMethods rename a definite revolution | 15:58 |
| @mlsec | Love is in the air | 15:58 |
| blackburn | mlsec: love you! | 15:58 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I mean when changing things to SGVector, etc | 15:59 |
| @mlsec | Oh. And betty will likely marry serialhex | 15:59 |
| @sonney2k | welcome to the shogun gay club - man we are just all in love today. | 15:59 |
| @bettyboo | mlsec: bad betty | 15:59 |
| @sonney2k | bettyboo, why - serialhex will treat you well! | 15:59 |
| @bettyboo | sonney2k: I've made a new pull request. I think I might have done some stuff you already added, not too sure. | 15:59 |
| sploving | I have to go now bye. | 16:00 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, cu! and keep us updated!@ | 16:00 |
| @sonney2k | and thanks! | 16:00 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: Shogun Machine Learning Gay Toolbox? | 16:00 |
| @mlsec | Pull for code or for someone in the channel, bettyboo?!? | 16:00 |
| @bettyboo | mlsec: I suggest you start using github... fork shogun there and fix it then send a pull request ... | 16:00 |
| sploving | sonney2k, enyoy your family life~ | 16:00 |
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| @sonney2k | sploving, I hope I still have a few more days... | 16:01 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, but yes I clearly hear the clock ticking | 16:01 |
| blackburn | :D | 16:01 |
| @mlsec | sonney2k: Yeah. Good luck | 16:01 |
| * sonney2k I wonder whether mentioning of gay or sex will increase the #hits to shogun-toolbox.org | 16:02 | |
| @mlsec | At least will teach betty new jokes! | 16:02 |
| @bettyboo | mlsec: at least for now. | 16:02 |
| @mlsec | Yeah! | 16:03 |
| heiko | hehe whats going on here? :) | 16:03 |
| heiko | just have been to the coiffeur and thought this would be all gay stuff for taday :D | 16:04 |
| @mlsec | heiko: Haha. Funny observation | 16:04 |
| serialhex | mlsec: thanks for arranging the marriage between me and bettyboo :-/ | 16:05 |
| @bettyboo | serialhex: i'm very interested to use kfa for my current work with dna data - thanks for some points | 16:05 |
| serialhex | you're welcome bettyboo!! :P | 16:06 |
| @mlsec | The grandma and her grandchild next to me are playing "name chains" for hours: john nick kevin nina alf fritz ... | 16:06 |
| @bettyboo | serialhex: Submitting more patches doesn't really improve anyones chances by now. Nevertheless, we naturally like to see you all contributing and very welcome any patch. Becoming a long term contributor is likely to get you into next years previous years. This is not to say you are (not) in. Official announcements will be made next Monday only. | 16:06 |
| @bettyboo | 8) | 16:06 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, added your blog http://shogun-toolbox.org/planet/ | 16:07 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, but it is hard to tell what is going on here | 16:07 |
| heiko | yes? ;) | 16:08 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, anyway ask whenever you have questions and tell me your phone # once you have it | 16:08 |
| heiko | i think i will have to call you | 16:09 |
| heiko | since i wont get a new number but only will be able to call fixed telephone for free | 16:09 |
| heiko | will get a coffee ... | 16:11 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, hmmhh that won't work with my plan to carry around the baby while talking to you | 16:12 |
| heiko | oh, mmh you wanted to go outside :) | 16:12 |
| @mlsec | :P | 16:13 |
| heiko | do you have any costs for calling festnetznummern? | 16:13 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, can you instead get some el cheapo o2 prepaid card? | 16:13 |
| @sonney2k | no | 16:13 |
| heiko | ok, I will think of something | 16:14 |
| * blackburn likes long-long german words | 16:15 | |
| heiko | like Festnetznummer? ;) | 16:16 |
| serialhex | yeah... german and englich may be close, but we dont have many incredibly-long words like that! | 16:19 |
| @sonney2k | mlsec, please show them a really long german word (otherwise they get the wrong impression ;) | 16:21 |
| * serialhex likes small words... big words frighten him, hey hide under his bed and will catch & eat him if he dosnt make it to the 'safe zone' | 16:25 | |
| @mlsec | Here we go | 16:38 |
| @mlsec | Fensterbriefumschlag | 16:38 |
| @mlsec | Arbeitnehmerfreizügigkeitsregelung | 16:40 |
| @mlsec | The longest one I came across in a long while | 16:40 |
| @sonney2k | I have one more "Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft" | 16:48 |
| @sonney2k | or Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetzparagraphen | 16:49 |
| serialhex | sonney2k: that's insane!!! | 17:10 |
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| heiko | sonney2k, how to print error messages from the Parameter class? its not an SGObject | 17:27 |
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| blackburn | omg germany won | 18:16 |
| blackburn | oh I am ashamed with that team | 18:19 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, germany won what? | 20:38 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: beat russia at ice hockey championship | 20:39 |
| @sonney2k | I didn't know we have an ice hockey team even | 20:40 |
| @sonney2k | thought it is either USA, Canada or CCCP that wins such things | 20:40 |
| blackburn | yeah, I thought we have strength team too :D | 20:41 |
| blackburn | it isn't playoffs but anyway | 20:41 |
| @sonney2k | strong yeah | 20:41 |
| blackburn | f-ck why I wrote strength | 20:42 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, btw can you please put the trapezoid area into CMath ? | 20:42 |
| @sonney2k | to reuse it between ROC an PR | 20:42 |
| blackburn | ok | 20:42 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: should I check for negatives, etc? | 20:43 |
| blackburn | ah nevermind | 20:43 |
| blackburn | ich bin mude :) saying some mess | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | it is better to have an assertion in there yes | 20:43 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I'll just made it abs() | 20:44 |
| @sonney2k | if the abs is correct then yes | 20:44 |
| blackburn | why not | 20:45 |
| blackburn | arghhh mathemathics.h is slightly intricated | 20:47 |
| blackburn | hehe *thics | 20:48 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: btw why you need that, are there any other algo using it? | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, computing an area under some curve can be useful :) | 20:49 |
| @sonney2k | and since you already have to do it 2 times - DRY | 20:49 |
| blackburn | ook | 20:50 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: static inline float64_t trapezoid_area(float64_t bottom, float64_t top, float64_t, height) | 20:53 |
| blackburn | ? | 20:53 |
| @sonney2k | I thought for computing the full area... | 20:53 |
| blackburn | ahhhh | 20:53 |
| blackburn | hmm | 20:53 |
| @sonney2k | so for any x and y array | 20:53 |
| blackburn | I see.. | 20:54 |
| @sonney2k | assuming y=f(x) is injective(?) | 20:54 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: there is a problem.. | 20:55 |
| blackburn | PRCEvaluation use different approach to calculate it | 20:55 |
| blackburn | 'rotated' you kno | 20:56 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, so just swap x and y in that case | 20:56 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: how can one set the case? | 20:56 |
| blackburn | two different methods? | 20:56 |
| @sonney2k | compute_area(flaot64_t* x, int32_t x_len, float64_t* y, y_len) | 20:57 |
| blackburn | ah :D | 20:57 |
| blackburn | thank you | 20:57 |
| @sonney2k | just call it compute_area(R, R_len, , P, P_len) | 20:57 |
| @sonney2k | instead of P,R | 20:57 |
| @sonney2k | or am I missing sth? | 20:58 |
| blackburn | nope, I just didn't came aside from its matrix representation | 20:58 |
| blackburn | thought I will have to swap matrix some way | 20:59 |
| blackburn | etc | 20:59 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, if your input is a matrix, then you could have a bool flag at the and for swapping x & y | 21:01 |
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| blackburn | sonney2k: sorry was away, will implement it now | 21:44 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: can I assume x and y length equal? | 21:52 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, is this the case in PR / ROC curve? | 21:52 |
| blackburn | I mean can I be assure that no one could call it with different length x and y arrays | 21:53 |
| @sonney2k | then yes :) | 21:53 |
| blackburn | the most simplest way to ask that is | 21:53 |
| blackburn | static inline float64_t trapezoid_area(float64_t bottom, float64_t top, float64_t, height) | 21:53 |
| blackburn | ehh | 21:53 |
| blackburn | no | 21:53 |
| blackburn | static float64_t area_under_curve(float64_t* x, float64_t* y, int32_t len) | 21:53 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: can I use only one len? | 21:53 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, use 2 different len's and then assert that these lens are both equal | 21:55 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: ok. but why? | 21:55 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, think of the SGVector thing | 21:56 |
| blackburn | ahh | 21:56 |
| blackburn | I see | 21:56 |
| blackburn | sorry for these misunderstandings, I'm really rushed with all the things around :) | 21:57 |
| blackburn | frankly, I'm switching to java when shogun is compiling and etc | 21:58 |
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| Daniel____ | Hi | 22:13 |
| blackburn | hi | 22:14 |
| Daniel____ | I have been trying to build Shogun in an IDE. I have tried in both Linux and Windows but I can't seem to get it to work. | 22:14 |
| @bettyboo | ho | 22:14 |
| Daniel____ | In both cases I am getting the error message "make:*** No rule to make target 'matlab', needed by 'all'. Stop. | 22:15 |
| blackburn | how did you configured shogun | 22:15 |
| blackburn | ? | 22:15 |
| blackburn | = keys, etc | 22:16 |
| Daniel____ | Unfortunatley, I have no experience with makefile C++ projects. I am trying to add a C# interface to Shogun - but my previous C++ projects have been Visual Studio | 22:16 |
| Daniel____ | Just the default configuration | 22:16 |
| Daniel____ | it works from the command line | 22:16 |
| Daniel____ | I can build in linx, although not windows cygwin | 22:16 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: | 22:16 |
| Daniel____ | the problem is with the eclipse IDE in Windows and Linux, and I do not know any other IDE that works with makefile projects | 22:17 |
| Daniel____ | ? | 22:17 |
| blackburn | I don't know anything about it because I just use make in my command line | 22:17 |
| Daniel____ | the entire project has been written with just text editors? | 22:19 |
| blackburn | I'm using eclipse for developing but do not build in it | 22:20 |
| Daniel____ | That is what I am going to do as well. Thanks. | 22:21 |
| blackburn | I really don't know how developers of shogun do it | 22:21 |
| blackburn | 'cause I'm just a GSoC student :) | 22:21 |
| serialhex | Daniel____: if you simply want to build shogun the easiest way is (like most linux utils) though the command line, you can still edit whatever you like in whatever text editor you choose | 22:25 |
| serialhex | for example: i use kate (a nice text editor that comes with kde) to do all my coding, and i test it all on the command line | 22:26 |
| Daniel____ | I am going to work in eclipse | 22:26 |
| serialhex | you can probably _build_ shogun on the command line and then write what you want and build it against shogun in whatever ide you choose | 22:27 |
| Daniel____ | thats what I will do | 22:27 |
| Daniel____ | unfortuantley, now I am going to have to get it working in cygwin, because we are trying to build for windows | 22:27 |
| serialhex | ok cool | 22:27 |
| serialhex | ahh... i see | 22:27 |
| * serialhex dosnt like windows | 22:27 | |
| Daniel____ | so I will probably be back with another question - I thought the problem the windows IDE was that it was windows and not linux | 22:28 |
| serialhex | it should work in cygwin, though i'm not sure | 22:28 |
| Daniel____ | I did not choose the development platform, its for a project to interpret brainwaive patterns | 22:28 |
| serialhex | ahh, interesting | 22:28 |
| Daniel____ | yeah - the guy I am working for is named Ori, he has probably been on this channel before | 22:29 |
| serialhex | theres actually a GSoC student whos building c# bindings in swig for shogun, sploving on this channel iirc | 22:29 |
| serialhex | never seen him | 22:29 |
| Daniel____ | oh, really, thats what I am doing too | 22:29 |
| Daniel____ | hmm | 22:29 |
| Daniel____ | do you have his email | 22:29 |
| Daniel____ | ? | 22:29 |
| serialhex | uhm... no i dont believe i do... lemme check though | 22:30 |
| Daniel____ | what is GSoC? | 22:30 |
| blackburn | google summer of code | 22:30 |
| Daniel____ | ah | 22:30 |
| Daniel____ | yeah, I saw the deadline too late | 22:30 |
| serialhex | sploving1@gmail.com - you should also subscribe to the shogun mailing list... it's not really busy but theres some good info pased though there every so often | 22:31 |
| Daniel____ | that might be my boss | 22:31 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: pull is ready | 22:32 |
| serialhex | i dont think it is blackburn! i think you are LYING!!! lying liar!!! | 22:32 |
| serialhex | :P | 22:32 |
| blackburn | i don't ;) | 22:32 |
| Daniel____ | no that is not my boss | 22:34 |
| Daniel____ | thanks guys, I sent him an email | 22:34 |
| serialhex | np, i dont know when he's going to be getting to the c# typemaps, but with someone asking for them i dont think it'll take too long | 22:36 |
| blackburn | serialhex: hey that guy from India beaten me up! | 22:38 |
| blackburn | with 4320 additions :D | 22:38 |
| @bettyboo | lolomat? | 22:39 |
| serialhex | do wah?!?!?! | 22:39 |
| serialhex | thats INSANE!!!! | 22:39 |
| serialhex | (something has gone wrong with his shogun repository i think) | 22:39 |
| blackburn | :D | 22:39 |
| blackburn | nope | 22:39 |
| @bettyboo | blackburn, yeah ^_^ | 22:39 |
| serialhex | lolz bettyboo!!! | 22:39 |
| @bettyboo | serialhex: morge! | 22:39 |
| blackburn | serialhex: he did some think I don't understand, 'StreamingFile' and so on | 22:40 |
| blackburn | thing* | 22:40 |
| blackburn | made* | 22:41 |
| blackburn | ah nevermind | 22:41 |
| * serialhex goes and checks the shogun repository | 22:41 | |
| serialhex | ??? | 22:41 |
| blackburn | it is better to shut up for me cause when I'm talking it is just like some unordered set of letters :D | 22:42 |
| serialhex | hey, you have a reason for bad english: it's not your native language. there are some people _here_ with worse english that you (and all they speek is english!!) | 22:44 |
| blackburn | anyway it's just a matter of time ;) will speak english good and spreche deutsch gut but a bit later :D | 22:46 |
| serialhex | :D | 22:47 |
| blackburn | it is good to me that you are native speaker because among non-natives I could even degrade my english | 22:47 |
| serialhex | it's one of the reasons why i try and help when possible | 22:47 |
| blackburn | thank you ;) | 22:48 |
| serialhex | np, anytime... and feel free to ask when you are uncertain about something | 22:49 |
| blackburn | serialhex: why my ejbFindByValues method isn't working? :D | 22:49 |
| serialhex | because you probably didnt create a ValueFinderGnome class yet... dont you know anything :P | 22:50 |
| blackburn | yeah seems to be! | 22:51 |
| * serialhex needs a small saw for cutting through plastic | 23:07 | |
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| warpy | hey sonney2k, here ? | 23:29 |
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