IRC logs of #shogun for Saturday, 2011-05-07

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blackburnsonney2k: around?18:54
@sonney2kblackburn, now21:09
blackburnsonney2k: how are you?21:09
blackburnI was confused with heiko's subsets but I think I won't use it21:09
@sonney2kblackburn, apart from tired no news21:09
@sonney2kblackburn, I don't understand?21:10
@sonney2kwe use this for data splitting...21:10
blackburnsonney2k: in LLE I could use subsets21:10
@sonney2kblackburn, I guess you can use subsets internally within LLE though...21:11
blackburnok21:12
blackburnsonney2k: btw, here will be matrices of greaat sizes, O(n*dim), where n is number of examples21:18
blackburnI don't like it exactly, but seems there is no other way21:19
@sonney2kblackburn, big your mean21:19
blackburnseems so21:19
@sonney2kthen the algorithm is only suitable for toy data21:19
@sonney2kyou could ask cwidmer / mlsec21:19
blackburnah, even more21:20
@sonney2kmaybe the know better algos  - but a baseline is also worth having21:20
blackburnsonney2k: I think it is a good algo anyway21:20
@sonney2kthen one just does dim reduction on a subset of the data21:20
blackburnISOMAP is even slower21:21
blackburnsonney2k: btw how it can be used in bioinformatics? with mapping A->1, C->2, etc?21:23
blackburnor with kernels?21:23
@sonney2kblackburn, both - depends...21:23
blackburnunfortunately I don't know anything about this field :(21:23
@sonney2kA-> 0001 , C -> 001021:23
@sonney2ketc21:23
blackburnI see21:24
@sonney2kdoesn't matter...21:24
blackburnso in this case LLE will produce huge matrices21:24
blackburnas I know there are >200K features, is it?21:24
@sonney2kblackburn, yeah useless in this scenario21:26
blackburnsonney2k: we discussed possibility of writing a paper about dimreduction with shogun to some journal21:26
blackburnsonney2k: he said it is possible with "Open Research Computation"21:27
blackburnbut while I was reading FAQ, I became surprised a lot with "We charge a flat fee of £995/$1660/€1120 for each accepted manuscript."21:28
blackburnsonney2k: is it a common practice?21:28
blackburnI'm a bit newbie with these issues21:32
@sonney2ksorry got disconnected21:34
blackburnrepeat?21:35
blackburnsonney2k: hoho! seems I have done 1/3 of LLE21:44
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blackburnserialhex: how are ya?23:44
serialhexgood, how about yourself blackburn?23:44
blackburnnice, implemented an LLE a little23:45
serialhex1/3 of one?? :P23:45
@bettybooserialhex, funny23:45
blackburnserialhex: yeap, I consider so because it have three stages :)23:46
serialhexcool23:46
blackburnserialhex: is 'I'm finished' a proper english?23:46
serialhexyes, though "is 'I'm finished' proper english?" would be better :D23:48
blackburn:D23:48
blackburnI'm useless23:49
serialhexno, youre getting better!23:49
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