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sploving | sonne2k, aroud? | 10:16 |
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sploving | sonney2k | 10:17 |
@sonney2k | yes? | 10:17 |
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sploving | about ruby. I use ./configure --interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular | 10:18 |
sploving | but it said "Checking for Ruby Developer Files ... no" | 10:18 |
@sonney2k | sploving, I thought you wanted to do java first? | 10:18 |
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@sonney2k | sploving, checkt the configure.log | 10:18 |
@sonney2k | sploving, it will tell you what script is used to test for ruby | 10:19 |
sploving | sonney2k, ruby $TMPRUBY >/dev/null 2>&1 this one | 10:19 |
sploving | TMPRUBY="./configure-$RANDOM-$$.rb" | 10:20 |
@sonney2k | sploving, well if you don't have ruby then it won't work... | 10:20 |
@sonney2k | what does ruby --version | 10:20 |
@sonney2k | say? | 10:20 |
sploving | I installed ruby-lib ruby ruby-irb | 10:20 |
sploving | sonney2k, ruby 1.8.6 | 10:21 |
@sonney2k | try the following | 10:21 |
@sonney2k | enter ruby | 10:22 |
@sonney2k | then enter | 10:22 |
@sonney2k | require('mkmf') | 10:22 |
@sonney2k | puts CONFIG['prefix']+'/'+CONFIG['libdir'].sub('\$(exec_prefix)','')+'/ruby/'+CONFIG['MAJOR']+'.'+CONFIG['MINOR']+'/'+CONFIG['arch'] | 10:22 |
@sonney2k | then do ctrl+d | 10:22 |
@sonney2k | it should print sth like /usr/$(exec_prefix)/lib/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux | 10:22 |
sploving | sonney2k, it said, it can't find header files for ruby. | 10:23 |
@sonney2k | sploving, when? | 10:23 |
@sonney2k | in require('mkmf') already? | 10:23 |
sploving | yes. after ctrl+d | 10:24 |
@sonney2k | sploving, so if you do require('mkmf') and the ctrl+d it will fail too? | 10:30 |
sploving | sonney2k, it works | 10:30 |
sploving | I lack a package ruby-devel | 10:30 |
sploving | and installed it | 10:30 |
@sonney2k | ok fine | 10:36 |
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blackburn | hehe 41 students from russia are participating in gsoc | 20:25 |
blackburn | such a shame for such a large country :) | 20:26 |
serialhex | blackburn: i think that's pretty good, tho idk how many applied... | 21:00 |
blackburn | serialhex: romania have 45 :D | 21:08 |
serialhex | really? damn... | 21:08 |
blackburn | w.r.t to population it is really small number :) | 21:09 |
* blackburn will have an interview tomorrow | 21:10 | |
blackburn | serialhex: does 'take an interview' means that speaker will interview someone? | 21:11 |
blackburn | english lessons :D | 21:11 |
serialhex | erm... | 21:12 |
serialhex | it would probably be better to say 'i am going to interview someone' | 21:12 |
blackburn | what if I will be interviewed? is it right to say 'take an interview'? | 21:13 |
serialhex | so if you were applying for a job i'd say 'i'm going o interview blackburn tomorrow' and conversely you would say 'i am going for an interview tomorrow' | 21:13 |
blackburn | ah | 21:13 |
blackburn | okay | 21:13 |
serialhex | this was fine: -*- blackburn will have an interview tomorrow | 21:13 |
blackburn | it is just curiosity of 'get' and 'take' verbs :) seems it is used very often | 21:14 |
blackburn | serialhex: so how are you? | 21:15 |
serialhex | i'm good, working on my logic class & setting up a (so far very ugly) blog for myself :D | 21:16 |
serialhex | along with trying to learn enough C++ & ruby binding stuff to make myself useful :P | 21:16 |
@bettyboo | :) | 21:16 |
blackburn | I had gotten some ugly experience of blogging, seems it is not for me :) | 21:17 |
blackburn | ^ is it right? some english kung-fu hehe | 21:17 |
serialhex | :P "i have had some..." | 21:17 |
blackburn | damn | 21:17 |
* serialhex never realized how hard english could be :-/ | 21:18 | |
blackburn | can one say 'had gotten'? | 21:18 |
blackburn | I thought it is the case for this past experience or so | 21:18 |
blackburn | serialhex: it is not, it's me stupid :D | 21:19 |
serialhex | you _can_ say it, but it's horrible :P (can as in 'i _can_ jump off a cliff', possible but unwise) | 21:19 |
serialhex | nah you're doing well, and wondering how to do things, it's much better to learn and get better then not ask Q's and stay ignorant! | 21:20 |
blackburn | serialhex: can you tell me some sentence with had + V3? | 21:20 |
blackburn | not horrible one :) | 21:21 |
serialhex | had + V3??? i dont understand what you're asking | 21:21 |
blackburn | :) seems english looks completely different for me | 21:22 |
serialhex | tho a sentence with had would be "i had a really awesome hamburger for dinner" | 21:22 |
blackburn | serialhex: e.g. had gotten or had anything-with-ing | 21:22 |
serialhex | or "i had $3000 but spent it on crack" | 21:22 |
serialhex | something like "i recieved $3000 for some crack i sold to some crackhead" would be probably what you are thing of for "had gotten" | 21:23 |
serialhex | "thinking" not "thing" :P | 21:23 |
blackburn | eh? | 21:24 |
serialhex | uhm... or "i had recieved..." | 21:24 |
blackburn | I could have taken Spanish in high school, but I didn't. | 21:24 |
blackburn | found :) | 21:24 |
serialhex | but that would be better "...have recieved..." | 21:24 |
blackburn | aha, have not had | 21:24 |
blackburn | i see | 21:24 |
blackburn | well it is from past unreal conditional example :) | 21:25 |
serialhex | can you give me an example of what you are trying to say? | 21:25 |
blackburn | I was wrong about had | 21:26 |
blackburn | but it is | 21:26 |
blackburn | sth like | 21:26 |
blackburn | If I had had more time, I could have exercised after work. | 21:26 |
blackburn | had had makes me mad :D | 21:26 |
serialhex | ahh... yes it is kind of wonky!! :P | 21:26 |
serialhex | you can also say that "if i would have had more time..." | 21:27 |
serialhex | no no.... | 21:27 |
serialhex | ok, scratch that *thinking & typing & thinking...* | 21:28 |
blackburn | what?:) | 21:28 |
serialhex | "i could have exorcized the demon after work if i had more time" | 21:28 |
blackburn | :D | 21:28 |
serialhex | the "would have" would work sth like: "i would have had more time if i wasnt running from zombies all day" | 21:29 |
blackburn | awesome examples :D | 21:30 |
serialhex | sorry, typing & speaking are diffeent mediums and what might "look" right sometimes dosnt "sound" right | 21:30 |
serialhex | and i'm better with how it sounds, so i'll actually say what i write out loud to make sure it's right | 21:31 |
blackburn | hehe | 21:31 |
serialhex | thanks for the ++ on the examples! i figure they're better than "see the ball, see the ball bounce" typre crap :P | 21:31 |
blackburn | thank you, it have became clearer for me | 21:32 |
blackburn | right? :) | 21:32 |
serialhex | "it has..." :P | 21:32 |
blackburn | fuck! | 21:32 |
serialhex | heh heh lol | 21:32 |
serialhex | really "it has become..." | 21:33 |
blackburn | double fuck! | 21:33 |
serialhex | have & became is more like "right now" type things... though not used together. and even though you *just* figured it out you're talking about the past... | 21:34 |
blackburn | 'I have known' - right? | 21:35 |
serialhex | though you can say "i have become an awesome coder because of GSoC" or "i became a fire-breathing llama when the gods cursed me" | 21:35 |
serialhex | yeah, "i have known that your sister is good in bed" :P | 21:36 |
blackburn | I just have become intricated with what form should be here :) | 21:36 |
@bettyboo | smart ;D | 21:36 |
serialhex | intricated?? | 21:37 |
blackburn | bad word? :) | 21:37 |
blackburn | tangled? | 21:37 |
serialhex | tangled would work | 21:37 |
serialhex | in·tri·cate/ˈintrikit/ | 21:38 |
serialhex | Adjective: Very complicated or detailed. | 21:38 |
blackburn | oh I should use english-english dictionary :) | 21:38 |
serialhex | thats the word you're '-ed'-ing right?? :P | 21:38 |
serialhex | maybe :D | 21:38 |
blackburn | yeap | 21:38 |
serialhex | yeah, tangled would work, or if you want to use intricate you could say sth like: | 21:38 |
serialhex | "the forms to use in english are very intricate" | 21:39 |
blackburn | without ed, right? | 21:39 |
serialhex | or sth like: "bringing cthulu back from his watery prison is an intricate procrdure" | 21:40 |
serialhex | yeah, no -ed | 21:40 |
blackburn | damn you rock with your examples | 21:41 |
serialhex | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intricate | 21:41 |
serialhex | for some reason has 'intricated' though i've never actually herd or seen it used, so i'm not sure when one might use it (i can't think of any example that dosnt sound wonky as fuck!) | 21:42 |
serialhex | yeah m-w.com dosnt have 'intricated'... i guess it might be an "english" thing and not an "american" thing??? | 21:44 |
blackburn | may be ^) | 21:44 |
blackburn | serialhex: it is said that intricated for past participle, could it be sth for 'had intricated'? | 21:46 |
blackburn | Partizip Zwei is the only thing I remember clearly from deutsch :D | 21:47 |
serialhex | yeah, 'had intricated' sounds wonky.... i'd say like "i have made intricate drum patterns" or sth... | 21:48 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, more than I remember ;-) | 21:49 |
blackburn | sonney2k: big brother :) | 21:49 |
serialhex | hey sonney2k how are you? | 21:49 |
* sonney2k just tuned the apache/mysql setup on shogun-toolbox.org to finally not run out of memory all the time | 21:49 | |
@sonney2k | serialhex, I am diaper changing master - guru even now :) | 21:50 |
blackburn | the mighty diaper master | 21:50 |
serialhex | hahah!!! :P you've got some mad diaper-fu going on over there :D | 21:50 |
blackburn | sonney2k: you will be sth like buddha with diaper changing if you will get third ;) | 21:51 |
blackburn | probably it is a nice addition to CV :D | 21:51 |
@sonney2k | but now everyone is asleep so all good :) | 21:51 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, probably :D | 21:51 |
blackburn | - Exceptionally C++,diaper changing and python skills | 21:52 |
blackburn | I had been sick for a while just like Chris, such a wonder - cold is going around Samara and Tuebingen both :D | 21:53 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, Berlin is safe | 21:54 |
blackburn | sonney2k: Berlin is pretty large :) | 21:54 |
@sonney2k | serialhex, are you still working on shogun + ruby? I am asking because sploving was trying to compile shogun w/ ruby today... | 21:54 |
serialhex | sonney2k: yes, i'm working on it... sorry i've been mostly MIA on the subject but it's much bigger than i thought in the beginning :-/ | 21:56 |
serialhex | i'm going to see if i can get it working on a default install here in a little bit | 21:56 |
* blackburn is googling MIA | 21:56 | |
serialhex | mia == missing in action - a military acronym | 21:56 |
blackburn | oh it is like KIA | 21:57 |
blackburn | :D | 21:57 |
serialhex | yeah | 21:57 |
@sonney2k | serialhex, it all depends on your prior knowledge in swig/ruby extension writing | 21:57 |
serialhex | i was having kind of the same problem with shogun not finding the ruby.h file cause i'm running rvm & the config script isnt looking in the right place (so i'll ahve to fix that) | 21:58 |
@sonney2k | I consider writing interfaces to new languages very easy - but YMMV | 21:58 |
serialhex | yeah, though i dont have any prior expierence :-/ | 21:58 |
@sonney2k | serialhex, rvm? | 21:58 |
* blackburn is googling YMMV | 21:58 | |
* serialhex is very much a n00b when it comes to these things | 21:58 | |
* blackburn is googling rvm | 21:59 | |
serialhex | rvm == ruby version manager. it allows me to use various versions of ruby on the same system | 21:59 |
serialhex | rvm.beginrescueend.com | 21:59 |
blackburn | why it is needed? | 21:59 |
serialhex | it's not *needed* but if i want to use 1.9.2 & 1.8.7 & rbx & jruby & iron ruby or whatever... it makes it very simple :D | 22:00 |
@bettyboo | <:*) | 22:00 |
blackburn | why one could want to use all these versions? | 22:00 |
blackburn | I'm talking a lot just because I am practicising | 22:01 |
blackburn | :D | 22:01 |
@sonney2k | serialhex, anyway I suggest to talk to sploving - maybe he can give you some hints and only stay in the advisory role | 22:01 |
serialhex | for instance: ubuntu dosnt have 1.9.2 as a default ruby interpreter, the latest is 1.8.7, so if you want to use the *latest* version of ruby & not clobber the system default then you can use rvm | 22:01 |
serialhex | yeah, i should probably talk to min more often | 22:02 |
serialhex | him not min :P | 22:02 |
@bettyboo | smart | 22:02 |
serialhex | thanks bettyboo! | 22:02 |
@bettyboo | serialhex: you asking for me? | 22:02 |
blackburn | bettyboo: lets talk about love | 22:02 |
@bettyboo | blackburn: Hello, I have a structured data set. In the sense that, I have several subjects and each subject has multiple patterns (actually mamography images). I want to do cross-validation, but teh split has to be done on patients, not on the data points. Is this possible in Shogun? I have this done with some scripts, but I'd love to get rid off thhem | 22:02 |
blackburn | FUCK | 22:02 |
blackburn | it is not love, betty | 22:02 |
serialhex | HAHAHAHA!!!! | 22:02 |
@bettyboo | blackburn: hmm.. it hasnt shown that you've left | 22:02 |
blackburn | mamography isn't related to love, bad betty | 22:02 |
@bettyboo | blackburn: not bad. | 22:02 |
blackburn | bettyboo: exactly you do | 22:03 |
@bettyboo | blackburn: btw what are you doing exactly, pushing your commits to your fork? | 22:03 |
@bettyboo | oops | 22:03 |
blackburn | bettyboo: I do | 22:03 |
@bettyboo | blackburn: but hey - do you want to check or shall I | 22:03 |
blackburn | guys | 22:03 |
serialhex | and some people use jruby (java implementation) and ironruby (.NET implementation) or simply want to test that their stuff works on those platforms | 22:03 |
blackburn | 'she' is really kind sometimes :D | 22:03 |
serialhex | yeah | 22:05 |
serialhex | ok, off to do some 'real' work :P | 22:06 |
blackburn | some running from zombies? | 22:07 |
blackburn | or getting ctulhu back in his old damn house? :) | 22:07 |
serialhex | a little of both blackburn :D | 22:11 |
@bettyboo | serialhex, ;> | 22:11 |
serialhex | i love you too betty :D | 22:11 |
@bettyboo | serialhex: betty: how are you? | 22:11 |
serialhex | heh heh lol | 22:12 |
serialhex | blackburn or sonney2k - in a configure script # is a line comment right? | 22:37 |
blackburn | no idea | 22:37 |
serialhex | just want to make sure before i fuck something up... | 22:37 |
serialhex | no wait... nvm! | 22:38 |
@sonney2k | yes | 22:38 |
* serialhex is being silly! | 22:38 | |
* serialhex hates stupid mistakes :P | 23:06 | |
serialhex | do you have ruby installed blackburn? | 23:06 |
blackburn | nope | 23:06 |
serialhex | :-/ ok... i was gonna have you test this, but thats ok | 23:07 |
blackburn | I have no problem with installing it | 23:07 |
serialhex | ok... what sys are you runnung btw? | 23:07 |
blackburn | ubuntu 10.10 | 23:07 |
serialhex | ok | 23:07 |
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blackburn | serialhex: what can I test? | 23:08 |
serialhex | i'm going to give you some code to put in you're configure file & i want you to try & configure & compile shogun | 23:09 |
blackburn | serialhex: should I install ruby-devel or so? | 23:09 |
serialhex | yes | 23:10 |
blackburn | and configure with interfaces=ruby_modular? | 23:10 |
serialhex | ruby & ruby devel ./configure --interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular | 23:10 |
blackburn | aha | 23:11 |
* serialhex is checking to make sure he has everything in order | 23:11 | |
serialhex | https://gist.github.com/985900 | 23:12 |
serialhex | when you have the ruby files installed | 23:12 |
blackburn | already | 23:12 |
serialhex | i figure it's easier to just give you the code & you can put it into your configure script instead of git push-ing & pull-ing & whatnot :P | 23:13 |
blackburn | aha | 23:13 |
serialhex | ok cool, let me know if anything crazy happens... i'm still mak-ing it on my sys | 23:13 |
blackburn | just will gitclone shogun | 23:15 |
serialhex | idk if things will work _effectively_ but i just want to make sure there are no errors for now | 23:15 |
serialhex | ?? whats that do? lik make a new blank copy of the shogun repo or something? | 23:15 |
blackburn | yeap | 23:16 |
blackburn | just don't want to 'touch' already available one :) | 23:16 |
@bettyboo | ;D | 23:16 |
serialhex | ok, np | 23:17 |
blackburn | serialhex: it should be inside test_ruby()? | 23:18 |
blackburn | should it be | 23:18 |
serialhex | yes | 23:18 |
serialhex | the first line is the same... i just added some comments & like 5 lines of code | 23:19 |
serialhex | ...tho it dosnt work on my sys... still gotta get it to werk :P | 23:19 |
* serialhex thought it would work, apparently not :( | 23:19 | |
blackburn | i think i did something wrong | 23:20 |
blackburn | ./configure: line 651: syntax error near unexpected token `}' | 23:20 |
blackburn | ./configure: line 651: `}' | 23:20 |
serialhex | erm... yeah :P | 23:21 |
serialhex | you got everything from the <<EOF to the EOF?? | 23:22 |
blackburn | http://pastebin.com/BWsHWhbV | 23:22 |
blackburn | serialhex: tell me what is wrong :) | 23:22 |
serialhex | ahh, ok i mist not ave explained myself :P | 23:24 |
serialhex | the only thing that changes is the stuff between the | 23:24 |
serialhex | cat >$TMPRUBY << EOF | 23:24 |
serialhex | EOF | 23:24 |
serialhex | code :P | 23:24 |
serialhex | so the whole thing would be... | 23:25 |
blackburn | ah I see | 23:25 |
blackburn | I've deleted some more necessary lines ;) | 23:25 |
@bettyboo | ha ha | 23:25 |
serialhex | https://gist.github.com/985900 | 23:26 |
serialhex | thats the whole test_ruby() function | 23:26 |
serialhex | (the new one btw also :P ) | 23:26 |
blackburn | configuring | 23:26 |
blackburn | now making | 23:27 |
serialhex | yeah, i think your sys is WAY faster than mine :P | 23:27 |
serialhex | and i think i put WAY too much honey in my tea | 23:28 |
blackburn | I don't know, it takes about 5-10 minutes | 23:29 |
blackburn | don't know exactly | 23:29 |
blackburn | вщту | 23:31 |
blackburn | done | 23:31 |
blackburn | serialhex: how can i test it or sth ? | 23:32 |
serialhex | it didnt throw any errors? | 23:32 |
blackburn | I ran ruby and it blinks me | 23:32 |
blackburn | nope, no errors | 23:32 |
blackburn | oh damn ruby stop blinking in my console :D | 23:32 |
serialhex | no 'hey cant find file ruby.h' or 'config.h' | 23:32 |
serialhex | :P | 23:32 |
serialhex | type 'exit' and you'll be free! | 23:33 |
blackburn | i just ran ruby | 23:33 |
serialhex | but the make itself? no errors? | 23:33 |
blackburn | may be I should run some other interpreter? | 23:33 |
serialhex | (i'm still make-ing, freaking slow single proc!!) | 23:33 |
blackburn | it have made successfully | 23:33 |
serialhex | uhm... to be interactive you'll want irb, but i just wanted to test the make, thats all | 23:34 |
blackburn | aah, I see | 23:34 |
serialhex | yeah, see, on my machine it's giving me wonky errors :( | 23:34 |
blackburn | hehe it is so leespee | 23:34 |
blackburn | irb(main):001:0> puts 1 | 23:34 |
blackburn | 1 | 23:34 |
blackburn | => nil | 23:34 |
serialhex | Distance_wrap.cxx:856:18: fatal error: ruby.h: No such file or directory | 23:34 |
serialhex | compilation terminated. | 23:34 |
serialhex | make[1]: *** [Distance_wrap.cxx.o] Error 1 | 23:34 |
serialhex | try: | 23:34 |
blackburn | just like clojure or common lisp | 23:35 |
serialhex | def foo | 23:35 |
serialhex | puts 'hello' | 23:35 |
serialhex | end | 23:35 |
blackburn | wait a minute | 23:35 |
blackburn | serialhex: interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular? | 23:35 |
serialhex | yep | 23:35 |
blackburn | Checking for Ruby Developer Files ... no | 23:35 |
serialhex | ./configure --interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular | 23:35 |
serialhex | hmm... odd | 23:36 |
serialhex | ok *goes back to drawing board* | 23:36 |
blackburn | serialhex: what should I install about dev? | 23:36 |
serialhex | i think i might install my old copy of vmware & start installing a bunch of os's to test this | 23:36 |
blackburn | ruby-dev? | 23:37 |
serialhex | just the dev files should be enough...try it with the shogun default test_ruby() command (i'll edit the gist so you have it in a sec...) | 23:37 |
blackburn | serialhex: I'll just git checkout it | 23:38 |
serialhex | ok, that works too :) | 23:38 |
blackburn | have installed ruby-full | 23:38 |
blackburn | anyway no | 23:38 |
blackburn | rgh | 23:38 |
serialhex | ahh, yeah ruby-full should do it! | 23:39 |
serialhex | thank you btw :D | 23:39 |
blackburn | serialhex: now works | 23:39 |
serialhex | YAY!!! | 23:39 |
blackburn | but seems your fixes doesn't work | 23:39 |
blackburn | I 'git checkouted' configure | 23:40 |
serialhex | and see if the 'make' gives you any errors (which it shouldnt) then try mine & see if that works | 23:40 |
blackburn | making.. | 23:41 |
blackburn | ... | 23:41 |
serialhex | yeah, it's going to take a bit longer :-/ | 23:41 |
blackburn | we should implement Schumacher class to speed it up | 23:42 |
blackburn | local joke hehe | 23:43 |
blackburn | well we should use vodka | 23:43 |
serialhex | YES!!! VODKA!!!! | 23:44 |
* blackburn haven't drinked vodka for a 2 years | 23:44 | |
blackburn | hehe | 23:44 |
serialhex | wtf? why?? | 23:44 |
blackburn | I don't know :) anyway I don't like it | 23:45 |
serialhex | -*- blackburn hasn't drank vodka for 2 years | 23:45 |
serialhex | really?? | 23:45 |
serialhex | weird russian who dosnt like vodka!! | 23:45 |
blackburn | fuck have/has is my everyday mistake | 23:45 |
blackburn | yeap, weird one | 23:45 |
blackburn | :) | 23:45 |
serialhex | you'll get it eventually! | 23:46 |
serialhex | what _do_ you like then? | 23:46 |
blackburn | vine is good I think :) | 23:46 |
serialhex | vine? you mean wine?? :P | 23:47 |
blackburn | hehe | 23:47 |
blackburn | I thought wine (emulator) is bad word for 'vine' :D | 23:47 |
blackburn | anyway I don't like anything with eh.. degree? >20 | 23:48 |
* blackburn afk for 10 min | 23:49 | |
serialhex | over 20 proof? | 23:49 |
serialhex | ok | 23:49 |
blackburn | proof/ | 23:49 |
blackburn | ? | 23:49 |
blackburn | serialhex: so I mean alcohol rate or so | 23:50 |
serialhex | yeah, they usualy label the amount of alc as proof, 200 proof == 100% so 20 proof is 10% (a hard beer or soft wine) | 23:52 |
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