IRC logs of #shogun for Sunday, 2011-05-22

--- Log opened Sun May 22 00:00:18 2011
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splovingsonne2k, aroud?10:16
splovingsonney2k10:17
@sonney2kyes?10:17
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splovingabout ruby. I use ./configure --interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular10:18
splovingbut it said "Checking for Ruby Developer Files ... no"10:18
@sonney2ksploving, I thought you wanted to do java first?10:18
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@sonney2ksploving, checkt the configure.log10:18
@sonney2ksploving, it will tell you what script is used to test for ruby10:19
splovingsonney2k, ruby $TMPRUBY >/dev/null 2>&1  this one10:19
splovingTMPRUBY="./configure-$RANDOM-$$.rb"10:20
@sonney2ksploving, well if you don't have ruby then it won't work...10:20
@sonney2kwhat does ruby --version10:20
@sonney2ksay?10:20
splovingI installed ruby-lib ruby ruby-irb10:20
splovingsonney2k, ruby 1.8.610:21
@sonney2ktry the following10:21
@sonney2kenter ruby10:22
@sonney2kthen enter10:22
@sonney2krequire('mkmf')10:22
@sonney2kputs CONFIG['prefix']+'/'+CONFIG['libdir'].sub('\$(exec_prefix)','')+'/ruby/'+CONFIG['MAJOR']+'.'+CONFIG['MINOR']+'/'+CONFIG['arch']10:22
@sonney2kthen do ctrl+d10:22
@sonney2kit should print sth like /usr/$(exec_prefix)/lib/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux10:22
splovingsonney2k, it said, it can't find header files for ruby.10:23
@sonney2ksploving, when?10:23
@sonney2kin require('mkmf') already?10:23
splovingyes. after ctrl+d10:24
@sonney2ksploving, so if you do require('mkmf') and the ctrl+d it will fail too?10:30
splovingsonney2k, it works10:30
splovingI lack a package ruby-devel10:30
splovingand installed it10:30
@sonney2kok fine10:36
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blackburnhehe 41 students from russia are participating in gsoc20:25
blackburnsuch a shame for such a large country :)20:26
serialhexblackburn: i think that's pretty good, tho idk how many applied...21:00
blackburnserialhex: romania have 45 :D21:08
serialhexreally? damn...21:08
blackburnw.r.t to population it is really small number :)21:09
* blackburn will have an interview tomorrow 21:10
blackburnserialhex: does 'take an interview' means that speaker will interview someone?21:11
blackburnenglish lessons :D21:11
serialhexerm...21:12
serialhexit would probably be better to say 'i am going to interview someone'21:12
blackburnwhat if I will be interviewed? is it right to say 'take an interview'?21:13
serialhexso if you were applying for a job i'd say 'i'm going o interview blackburn tomorrow' and conversely you would say 'i am going for an interview tomorrow'21:13
blackburnah21:13
blackburnokay21:13
serialhexthis was fine:  -*- blackburn will have an interview tomorrow21:13
blackburnit is just curiosity of 'get' and 'take' verbs :) seems it is used very often21:14
blackburnserialhex: so how are you?21:15
serialhexi'm good, working on my logic class & setting up a (so far very ugly) blog for myself :D21:16
serialhexalong with trying to learn enough C++ & ruby binding stuff to make myself useful :P21:16
@bettyboo:)21:16
blackburnI had gotten some ugly experience of blogging, seems it is not for me :)21:17
blackburn^ is it right? some english kung-fu hehe21:17
serialhex:P  "i have had some..."21:17
blackburndamn21:17
* serialhex never realized how hard english could be :-/21:18
blackburncan one say 'had gotten'?21:18
blackburnI thought it is the case for this past experience or so21:18
blackburnserialhex: it is not, it's me stupid :D21:19
serialhexyou _can_ say it, but it's horrible :P  (can as in 'i _can_ jump off a cliff', possible but unwise)21:19
serialhexnah you're doing well, and wondering how to do things, it's much better to learn and get better then not ask Q's and stay ignorant!21:20
blackburnserialhex: can you tell me some sentence with had + V3?21:20
blackburnnot horrible one :)21:21
serialhexhad + V3???  i dont understand what you're asking21:21
blackburn:) seems english looks completely different for me21:22
serialhextho a sentence with had would be "i had a really awesome hamburger for dinner"21:22
blackburnserialhex: e.g. had gotten or had anything-with-ing21:22
serialhexor "i had $3000 but spent it on crack"21:22
serialhexsomething like "i recieved $3000 for some crack i sold to some crackhead" would be probably what you are thing of for "had gotten"21:23
serialhex"thinking" not "thing" :P21:23
blackburneh?21:24
serialhexuhm... or "i had recieved..."21:24
blackburnI could have taken Spanish in high school, but I didn't.21:24
blackburnfound :)21:24
serialhexbut that would be better "...have recieved..."21:24
blackburnaha, have not had21:24
blackburni see21:24
blackburnwell it is from past unreal conditional example :)21:25
serialhexcan you give me an example of what you are trying to say?21:25
blackburnI was wrong about had21:26
blackburnbut it is21:26
blackburnsth like21:26
blackburnIf I had had more time, I could have exercised after work.21:26
blackburnhad had makes me mad :D21:26
serialhexahh... yes it is kind of wonky!! :P21:26
serialhexyou can also say that "if i would have had more time..."21:27
serialhexno no....21:27
serialhexok, scratch that *thinking & typing & thinking...*21:28
blackburnwhat?:)21:28
serialhex"i could have exorcized the demon after work if i had more time"21:28
blackburn:D21:28
serialhexthe "would have" would work sth like:  "i would have had more time if i wasnt running from zombies all day"21:29
blackburnawesome examples :D21:30
serialhexsorry, typing & speaking are diffeent mediums and what might "look" right sometimes dosnt "sound" right21:30
serialhexand i'm better with how it sounds, so i'll actually say what i write out loud to make sure it's right21:31
blackburnhehe21:31
serialhexthanks for the ++ on the examples!  i figure they're better than "see the ball, see the ball bounce"  typre crap :P21:31
blackburnthank you, it have became clearer for me21:32
blackburnright? :)21:32
serialhex"it has..." :P21:32
blackburnfuck!21:32
serialhexheh heh lol21:32
serialhexreally "it has become..."21:33
blackburndouble fuck!21:33
serialhexhave & became is more like "right now" type things... though not used together.  and even though you *just* figured it out you're talking about the past...21:34
blackburn'I have known' - right?21:35
serialhexthough you can say "i have become an awesome coder because of GSoC"  or "i became a fire-breathing llama when the gods cursed me"21:35
serialhexyeah, "i have known that your sister is good in bed" :P21:36
blackburnI just have become intricated with what form should be here :)21:36
@bettyboosmart ;D21:36
serialhexintricated??21:37
blackburnbad word? :)21:37
blackburntangled?21:37
serialhextangled would work21:37
serialhexin·tri·cate/ˈintrikit/21:38
serialhexAdjective: Very complicated or detailed.21:38
blackburnoh I should use english-english dictionary :)21:38
serialhexthats the word you're '-ed'-ing right?? :P21:38
serialhexmaybe :D21:38
blackburnyeap21:38
serialhexyeah, tangled would work, or if you want to use intricate you could say sth like:21:38
serialhex"the forms to use in english are very intricate"21:39
blackburnwithout ed, right?21:39
serialhexor sth like: "bringing cthulu back from his watery prison is an intricate procrdure"21:40
serialhexyeah, no -ed21:40
blackburndamn you rock with your examples21:41
serialhexhttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intricate21:41
serialhexfor some reason has 'intricated' though i've never actually herd or seen it used, so i'm not sure when one might use it (i can't think of any example that dosnt sound wonky as fuck!)21:42
serialhexyeah m-w.com dosnt have 'intricated'... i guess it might be an "english" thing and not an "american" thing???21:44
blackburnmay be ^)21:44
blackburnserialhex: it is said that intricated for past participle, could it be sth for 'had intricated'?21:46
blackburnPartizip Zwei is the only thing I remember clearly from deutsch :D21:47
serialhexyeah, 'had intricated' sounds wonky....  i'd say like "i have made intricate drum patterns" or sth...21:48
@sonney2kblackburn, more than I remember ;-)21:49
blackburnsonney2k: big brother :)21:49
serialhexhey sonney2k how are you?21:49
* sonney2k just tuned the apache/mysql setup on shogun-toolbox.org to finally not run out of memory all the time21:49
@sonney2kserialhex, I am diaper changing master - guru even now :)21:50
blackburnthe mighty diaper master21:50
serialhexhahah!!!  :P  you've got some mad diaper-fu going on over there :D21:50
blackburnsonney2k: you will be sth like buddha with diaper changing if you will get third ;)21:51
blackburnprobably it is a nice addition to CV :D21:51
@sonney2kbut now everyone is asleep so all good :)21:51
@sonney2kblackburn, probably :D21:51
blackburn- Exceptionally C++,diaper changing and python skills21:52
blackburnI had been sick for a while just like Chris, such a wonder - cold is going around Samara and Tuebingen both :D21:53
@sonney2kblackburn, Berlin is safe21:54
blackburnsonney2k: Berlin is pretty large :)21:54
@sonney2kserialhex, are you still working on shogun + ruby? I am asking because sploving was trying to compile shogun w/ ruby today...21:54
serialhexsonney2k: yes, i'm working on it...  sorry i've been mostly MIA on the subject but it's much bigger than i thought in the beginning :-/21:56
serialhexi'm going to see if i can get it working on a default install here in a little bit21:56
* blackburn is googling MIA21:56
serialhexmia == missing in action - a military acronym21:56
blackburnoh it is like KIA21:57
blackburn:D21:57
serialhexyeah21:57
@sonney2kserialhex, it all depends on your prior knowledge in swig/ruby extension writing21:57
serialhexi was having kind of the same problem with shogun not finding the ruby.h file cause i'm running rvm & the config script isnt looking in the right place (so i'll ahve to fix that)21:58
@sonney2kI consider writing interfaces to new languages very easy - but YMMV21:58
serialhexyeah, though i dont have any prior expierence :-/21:58
@sonney2kserialhex, rvm?21:58
* blackburn is googling YMMV21:58
* serialhex is very much a n00b when it comes to these things21:58
* blackburn is googling rvm21:59
serialhexrvm == ruby version manager. it allows me to use various versions of ruby on the same system21:59
serialhexrvm.beginrescueend.com21:59
blackburnwhy it is needed?21:59
serialhexit's not *needed* but if i want to use 1.9.2 & 1.8.7 & rbx & jruby & iron ruby or whatever... it makes it very simple :D22:00
@bettyboo<:*)22:00
blackburnwhy one could want to use all these versions?22:00
blackburnI'm talking a lot just because I am practicising22:01
blackburn:D22:01
@sonney2kserialhex, anyway I suggest to talk to sploving - maybe he can give you some hints and only stay in the advisory role22:01
serialhexfor instance: ubuntu dosnt have 1.9.2 as a default ruby interpreter, the latest is 1.8.7, so if you want to use the *latest* version of ruby & not clobber the system default then you can use rvm22:01
serialhexyeah, i should probably talk to min more often22:02
serialhexhim not min :P22:02
@bettyboosmart22:02
serialhexthanks bettyboo!22:02
@bettybooserialhex: you asking for me?22:02
blackburnbettyboo: lets talk about love22:02
@bettybooblackburn: Hello, I have a structured data set. In the sense that, I have several subjects and each subject has multiple patterns (actually mamography images). I want to do cross-validation, but teh split has to be done on patients, not on the data points. Is this possible in Shogun? I have this done with some scripts, but I'd love to get rid off thhem22:02
blackburnFUCK22:02
blackburnit is not love, betty22:02
serialhexHAHAHAHA!!!!22:02
@bettybooblackburn: hmm.. it hasnt shown that you've left22:02
blackburnmamography isn't related to love, bad betty22:02
@bettybooblackburn: not bad.22:02
blackburnbettyboo: exactly you do22:03
@bettybooblackburn: btw what are you doing exactly, pushing your commits to your fork?22:03
@bettyboooops22:03
blackburnbettyboo: I do22:03
@bettybooblackburn: but hey - do you want to check or shall I22:03
blackburnguys22:03
serialhexand some people use jruby (java implementation) and ironruby (.NET implementation) or simply want to test that their stuff works on those platforms22:03
blackburn'she' is really kind sometimes :D22:03
serialhexyeah22:05
serialhexok, off to do some 'real' work :P22:06
blackburnsome running from zombies?22:07
blackburnor getting ctulhu back in his old damn house? :)22:07
serialhexa little of both blackburn :D22:11
@bettybooserialhex, ;>22:11
serialhexi love you too betty :D22:11
@bettybooserialhex: betty: how are you?22:11
serialhexheh heh lol22:12
serialhexblackburn or sonney2k - in a configure script # is a line comment right?22:37
blackburnno idea22:37
serialhexjust want to make sure before i fuck something up...22:37
serialhexno wait... nvm!22:38
@sonney2kyes22:38
* serialhex is being silly!22:38
* serialhex hates stupid mistakes :P23:06
serialhexdo you have ruby installed blackburn?23:06
blackburnnope23:06
serialhex:-/ ok... i was gonna have you test this, but thats ok23:07
blackburnI have no problem with installing it23:07
serialhexok... what sys are you runnung btw?23:07
blackburnubuntu 10.1023:07
serialhexok23:07
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blackburnserialhex: what can I test?23:08
serialhexi'm going to give you some code to put in you're configure file & i want you to try & configure & compile shogun23:09
blackburnserialhex: should I install ruby-devel or so?23:09
serialhexyes23:10
blackburnand configure with interfaces=ruby_modular?23:10
serialhexruby & ruby devel ./configure --interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular23:10
blackburnaha23:11
* serialhex is checking to make sure he has everything in order23:11
serialhexhttps://gist.github.com/98590023:12
serialhexwhen you have the ruby files installed23:12
blackburnalready23:12
serialhexi figure it's easier to just give you the code & you can put it into your configure script instead of git push-ing & pull-ing & whatnot :P23:13
blackburnaha23:13
serialhexok cool, let me know if anything crazy happens... i'm still mak-ing it on my sys23:13
blackburnjust will gitclone shogun23:15
serialhexidk if things will work _effectively_ but i just want to make sure there are no errors for now23:15
serialhex??  whats that do? lik make a new blank copy of the shogun repo or something?23:15
blackburnyeap23:16
blackburnjust don't want to 'touch' already available one :)23:16
@bettyboo;D23:16
serialhexok, np23:17
blackburnserialhex: it should be inside test_ruby()?23:18
blackburnshould it be23:18
serialhexyes23:18
serialhexthe first line is the same... i just added some comments & like 5 lines of code23:19
serialhex...tho it dosnt work on my sys... still gotta get it to werk :P23:19
* serialhex thought it would work, apparently not :(23:19
blackburni think i did something wrong23:20
blackburn./configure: line 651: syntax error near unexpected token `}'23:20
blackburn./configure: line 651: `}'23:20
serialhexerm... yeah :P23:21
serialhexyou got everything from the <<EOF to the EOF??23:22
blackburnhttp://pastebin.com/BWsHWhbV23:22
blackburnserialhex: tell me what is wrong :)23:22
serialhexahh, ok i mist not ave explained myself :P23:24
serialhexthe only thing that changes is the stuff between the23:24
serialhexcat >$TMPRUBY << EOF23:24
serialhexEOF23:24
serialhexcode :P23:24
serialhexso the whole thing would be...23:25
blackburnah I see23:25
blackburnI've deleted some more necessary lines ;)23:25
@bettybooha ha23:25
serialhexhttps://gist.github.com/98590023:26
serialhexthats the whole test_ruby() function23:26
serialhex(the new one btw also :P )23:26
blackburnconfiguring23:26
blackburnnow making23:27
serialhexyeah, i think your sys is WAY faster than mine :P23:27
serialhexand i think i put WAY too much honey in my tea23:28
blackburnI don't know, it takes about 5-10 minutes23:29
blackburndon't know exactly23:29
blackburnвщту23:31
blackburndone23:31
blackburnserialhex: how can i test it or sth ?23:32
serialhexit didnt throw any errors?23:32
blackburnI ran ruby and it blinks me23:32
blackburnnope, no errors23:32
blackburnoh damn ruby stop blinking in my console :D23:32
serialhexno 'hey cant find file ruby.h' or 'config.h'23:32
serialhex:P23:32
serialhextype 'exit' and you'll be free!23:33
blackburni just ran ruby23:33
serialhexbut the make itself? no errors?23:33
blackburnmay be I should run some other interpreter?23:33
serialhex(i'm still make-ing, freaking slow single proc!!)23:33
blackburnit have made successfully23:33
serialhexuhm... to be interactive you'll want irb, but i just wanted to test the make, thats all23:34
blackburnaah, I see23:34
serialhexyeah, see, on my machine it's giving me wonky errors :(23:34
blackburnhehe it is so leespee23:34
blackburnirb(main):001:0> puts 123:34
blackburn123:34
blackburn=> nil23:34
serialhexDistance_wrap.cxx:856:18: fatal error: ruby.h: No such file or directory23:34
serialhexcompilation terminated.23:34
serialhexmake[1]: *** [Distance_wrap.cxx.o] Error 123:34
serialhextry:23:34
blackburnjust like clojure or common lisp23:35
serialhexdef foo23:35
serialhex  puts 'hello'23:35
serialhexend23:35
blackburnwait a minute23:35
blackburnserialhex: interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular?23:35
serialhexyep23:35
blackburnChecking for Ruby Developer Files ... no23:35
serialhex./configure --interfaces=libshogun,ruby_modular23:35
serialhexhmm... odd23:36
serialhexok *goes back to drawing board*23:36
blackburnserialhex: what should I install about dev?23:36
serialhexi think i might install my old copy of vmware & start installing a bunch of os's to test this23:36
blackburnruby-dev?23:37
serialhexjust the dev files should be enough...try it with the shogun default test_ruby() command (i'll edit the gist so you have it in a sec...)23:37
blackburnserialhex: I'll just git checkout it23:38
serialhexok, that works too :)23:38
blackburnhave installed ruby-full23:38
blackburnanyway no23:38
blackburnrgh23:38
serialhexahh, yeah ruby-full should do it!23:39
serialhexthank you btw :D23:39
blackburnserialhex: now works23:39
serialhexYAY!!!23:39
blackburnbut seems your fixes doesn't work23:39
blackburnI 'git checkouted' configure23:40
serialhexand see if the 'make' gives you any errors (which it shouldnt) then try mine & see if that works23:40
blackburnmaking..23:41
blackburn...23:41
serialhexyeah, it's going to take a bit longer :-/23:41
blackburnwe should implement Schumacher class to speed it up23:42
blackburnlocal joke hehe23:43
blackburnwell we should use vodka23:43
serialhexYES!!! VODKA!!!!23:44
* blackburn haven't drinked vodka for a 2 years 23:44
blackburnhehe23:44
serialhexwtf? why??23:44
blackburnI don't know :) anyway I don't like it23:45
serialhex-*- blackburn hasn't drank vodka for 2 years23:45
serialhexreally??23:45
serialhexweird russian who dosnt like vodka!!23:45
blackburnfuck have/has is my everyday mistake23:45
blackburnyeap, weird one23:45
blackburn:)23:45
serialhexyou'll get it eventually!23:46
serialhexwhat _do_ you like then?23:46
blackburnvine is good I think :)23:46
serialhexvine?  you mean wine?? :P23:47
blackburnhehe23:47
blackburnI thought wine (emulator) is bad word for 'vine' :D23:47
blackburnanyway I don't like anything with eh.. degree? >2023:48
* blackburn afk for 10 min23:49
serialhexover 20 proof?23:49
serialhexok23:49
blackburnproof/23:49
blackburn?23:49
blackburnserialhex: so I mean alcohol rate or so23:50
serialhexyeah, they usualy label the amount of alc as proof, 200 proof == 100%  so 20 proof is 10% (a hard beer or soft wine)23:52
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