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blackburn | good student :) | 00:03 |
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Daniel___ | I have a question about the typemaps for two dimensional arrays. Why is it that they only appear to deal with translating the first dimmension of a two dimmensional array and not the second? | 13:09 |
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blackburn | 2 to go | 15:13 |
blackburn | err | 15:13 |
blackburn | 1 | 15:13 |
serialhex | hey, whats up blackburn?? | 18:31 |
blackburn | serialhex: hey | 18:32 |
blackburn | have passed 2 exams, another one to go tomorrow | 18:32 |
blackburn | and will have some 'rest' till 9 of June :) | 18:33 |
serialhex | sweet!! i was wondering what that "2 to go err 1" was... | 18:33 |
serialhex | cool, what it is like a summer simester? | 18:33 |
blackburn | ^ don't understand | 18:33 |
serialhex | ahh, here you typically have 2 simesters, one in the fall & one in the spring, then there are also (optionally) 2 summer simesters | 18:34 |
blackburn | ah | 18:35 |
blackburn | well my spring semester is over now | 18:35 |
blackburn | and now I'm having pass-fail exams or so | 18:35 |
serialhex | derr... semester !! i was spelling it wrong! | 18:35 |
blackburn | with no grade | 18:35 |
serialhex | cool | 18:35 |
blackburn | totally 7 of this type | 18:35 |
blackburn | last one to go tomorrow | 18:35 |
blackburn | then from 10 I will be passing exams with grades | 18:36 |
blackburn | particularly 10,16,22 | 18:36 |
blackburn | of June | 18:36 |
serialhex | ahh, ok... so it's just exams | 18:36 |
blackburn | yeap | 18:36 |
serialhex | i'm taking some classes over the summer, so i can get some decient grades and maybe some financial aid!!! | 18:37 |
serialhex | (and maybe some spelling aid cause i need it today!) | 18:37 |
blackburn | we here don't have any summer classes provided by universities | 18:37 |
blackburn | and btw no optional classes or so :D | 18:37 |
serialhex | ahh, ok | 18:37 |
serialhex | really? you just pick a major & take courses X Y & Z?? | 18:38 |
blackburn | yeap | 18:38 |
blackburn | old soviet system hehe | 18:38 |
serialhex | hmm, here you always have options, there are some 'core' courses you *HAVE* to take, but then you have electives & stuff | 18:39 |
blackburn | yeah, I know | 18:39 |
blackburn | it is europe way too, as I know | 18:39 |
blackburn | my friend is studying in Czech rep. | 18:39 |
serialhex | yeah, you should try and get a scholarship to come here & study somewhere! | 18:39 |
blackburn | and moreover we don't use 'major' and 'minor' | 18:40 |
serialhex | it's just called 'im doing X' or something? | 18:40 |
blackburn | it is called speciality or so | 18:40 |
serialhex | ahh, ok | 18:41 |
blackburn | well I'm studying in one of three groups of 'Applied mathematics and computer science' | 18:41 |
blackburn | *if it is right translation* | 18:41 |
serialhex | sounds good | 18:41 |
blackburn | on my department we also have 'applied mathematics and physics' and etc | 18:42 |
serialhex | cool | 18:42 |
serialhex | i've gotta figure out why these freaking typemaps aren't loading up! | 18:43 |
blackburn | I have figured that my LLE was incorrect :) | 18:46 |
serialhex | really? whats wrong? | 18:46 |
blackburn | at least pictures I posted into mailing list was wrong | 18:46 |
blackburn | issue with matrix storage | 18:46 |
serialhex | hmm, ok | 18:47 |
* serialhex goes & looks for pics | 18:47 | |
blackburn | I returned matrix row-by-row | 18:47 |
blackburn | but it should be column-by-column | 18:47 |
blackburn | serialhex: yesterday I was playing with it a little | 18:47 |
blackburn | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10139213/share/3d-initial.png | 18:47 |
blackburn | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10139213/share/3d-transformed.png | 18:47 |
blackburn | filename speaks for itself | 18:48 |
blackburn | :) | 18:48 |
@bettyboo | ^_^ | 18:48 |
serialhex | ahh, i see | 18:48 |
blackburn | it is right way now | 18:49 |
serialhex | cool coo | 18:49 |
blackburn | but now it looks worse :D | 18:49 |
serialhex | l | 18:49 |
serialhex | heh, code can't always be pretty! | 18:49 |
blackburn | I mean found manifold embedding is worse | 18:49 |
blackburn | but anyway it was erroreous | 18:49 |
blackburn | ehh not that word | 18:50 |
blackburn | I hope you'll understand ^) | 18:50 |
serialhex | erroneous (sp?) means it has errors | 18:50 |
serialhex | is that what you mean? | 18:51 |
blackburn | yeap | 18:51 |
serialhex | ok, cool | 18:51 |
serialhex | yeah, thats the right spelling! | 18:52 |
serialhex | YAY i kan spel!!! :D | 18:52 |
blackburn | amerikun huh :) | 18:53 |
serialhex | yep, i be an amerikun!! | 18:53 |
blackburn | ehhh I'm too lazy to prepare for tomorrow test | 18:54 |
serialhex | ehh, i almost never study | 18:55 |
blackburn | today in test there was questions like | 18:56 |
blackburn | 'Which organization provides standard for cables' or so | 18:56 |
blackburn | with answer TIA/EIA, damn | 18:56 |
blackburn | strange way to test students :D | 18:57 |
serialhex | hmm, i've never heard of either of those, i guess it's different here in the us | 18:57 |
blackburn | it is about RJ-45, Ethernet, etc | 18:57 |
blackburn | TIA/EIA some-numbers-and-letters is standard for RJ-45 | 18:57 |
blackburn | TIA/EIA-548-B hehe | 18:58 |
blackburn | 568 | 18:58 |
serialhex | ahh, i see | 18:58 |
serialhex | yeah we use RJ-45 clips & the cable is CAT-5 or CAT-5e (or if you're really spiffy, CAT-6!!) | 18:59 |
blackburn | everyone uses | 18:59 |
blackburn | and was questions like what STP is | 19:00 |
blackburn | and so on | 19:00 |
serialhex | yeah, that'd make sense, then everyones networks can easily talk to each other | 19:00 |
serialhex | STP: spike-timing plasticity | 19:00 |
blackburn | hehe | 19:00 |
serialhex | stone temple pilots | 19:00 |
serialhex | an automotive oil company' | 19:00 |
serialhex | erm.... there more :P | 19:00 |
blackburn | shielded twisted pair | 19:00 |
serialhex | whatev!! it sepends on who you're asking! | 19:01 |
blackburn | aha | 19:01 |
serialhex | it depends on who you're asking too :P | 19:01 |
serialhex | i want a third monitor! | 19:02 |
blackburn | why? I have one and it is ok :) | 19:02 |
serialhex | cause i like the space it provides me! i'd like to fit this window on a third monitor so i can chat & work & look at stuff all at the same time | 19:03 |
serialhex | ok, stupid C Q - WTF does the -> mean in this code: len = RARRAY($input)->len; | 19:04 |
blackburn | what it is? ;) | 19:04 |
blackburn | well -> is used just like . | 19:05 |
serialhex | i was kinda hoping you wouldnt ask that Q... :( | 19:05 |
blackburn | the only difference : -> is called for pointers | 19:05 |
serialhex | like . in python or ruby? so like object.do_thingy | 19:05 |
blackburn | yeap | 19:05 |
blackburn | it is equal to (*object).some_do_thingy() | 19:06 |
blackburn | but ^ looks ugly so -> is used | 19:06 |
serialhex | so it'd be object->do_thingy() | 19:07 |
blackburn | yeap | 19:07 |
blackburn | just like dot for pointers | 19:07 |
serialhex | ok... i'm starting to not like pointers | 19:07 |
serialhex | i understand it probably makes the code faster, but they are WAY annoying!!! | 19:07 |
blackburn | well it is not difficult at all just some habits | 19:08 |
serialhex | yeah, and i have a habit of no pointers :P | 19:08 |
blackburn | if we used garbage collecting instead of pointers - it would be sloooooow | 19:09 |
serialhex | yeah, i can understand | 19:15 |
serialhex | hey brb, laundry! | 19:15 |
blackburn | ok | 19:15 |
@sonney2k | congrats blackburn and best of luck for #3 | 20:10 |
blackburn | sonney2k: thanks, #3 will be easy as #1 :) | 20:10 |
blackburn | #2 was harder - ~50% haven't passed | 20:11 |
blackburn | sonney2k: how are you? | 20:11 |
@sonney2k | ahh ok so piece of cake for you | 20:11 |
@sonney2k | very good :) | 20:11 |
blackburn | tomorrow will be heading home hehe | 20:13 |
blackburn | sonney2k: how are Jan? | 20:16 |
CIA-32 | shogun: Daniel Matthew Korn master * re0c6f7a / src/csharp_modular/swig_typemaps.i : Added the SGMatrix Typemap - http://bit.ly/kxkygt | 20:17 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, he is lying next to me and sleeping | 20:17 |
blackburn | wow | 20:17 |
@sonney2k | gained about 1 kg of weight by now | 20:17 |
blackburn | work flows :) csharp modular | 20:17 |
blackburn | nice | 20:17 |
blackburn | sonney2k: can you recommend some textbook about bioinformatics? | 20:29 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, machine learning & bioinformatics or just biology :D | 20:29 |
blackburn | first of course | 20:29 |
@sonney2k | for biology The Cell | 20:29 |
blackburn | The Cell is a journal? | 20:30 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, no a big book | 20:30 |
blackburn | sonney2k: I just want to know what you guys are doing :D | 20:30 |
@sonney2k | http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?tid=10338&ttype=2 | 20:30 |
@sonney2k | we have a chapter in there too (rather old though now I think) | 20:31 |
blackburn | I think no chance I will do it too :( | 20:31 |
@sonney2k | ? | 20:32 |
blackburn | I mean I have no chance to do bioinformatics as my bachelor's work or so | 20:32 |
@sonney2k | apart from that we have a small svm + biology tutorial | 20:32 |
@sonney2k | I see | 20:32 |
@sonney2k | http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1000173 | 20:33 |
blackburn | I have glanced over your PhD work a month ago | 20:35 |
@sonney2k | great stuff isn't it ;-) | 20:36 |
blackburn | exactly | 20:36 |
@sonney2k | most of the things are just simple | 20:36 |
blackburn | sonney2k: is there any *not so hard* problems biased to mlearning with small bioinformatics issues? | 20:38 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, that is exactly what I did :) | 20:39 |
blackburn | sonney2k: hmm may be you could recommend me some problem to work on some day? ;) | 20:40 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, if you are really interested in this you should talk to my former phd superviser... | 20:40 |
@sonney2k | visor... | 20:40 |
blackburn | the only problem - there are no people here with knowledge of *anything* about it | 20:41 |
blackburn | so I don't know who could be my 'chief' here | 20:41 |
blackburn | I'm a little pioneer in machine learning in my university :D | 20:44 |
@bettyboo | :> blackburn | 20:44 |
blackburn | damn how shity is our education system and so on | 20:44 |
blackburn | sonney2k: btw who is your supervisor? | 20:47 |
@sonney2k | gunnar raetsch | 20:48 |
blackburn | oh it is gun of shogun, right? | 20:48 |
@sonney2k | y | 20:48 |
blackburn | sonney2k: is he watching what's going on with shogun? | 20:49 |
@sonney2k | yes but he is overly busy currently | 20:54 |
blackburn | I see | 20:55 |
blackburn | when it comes to winter I will think about what work to do | 20:55 |
@sonney2k | as a hobby or as a job? | 20:56 |
blackburn | as bachelor's work :) anyway it should be some 'science' | 20:56 |
blackburn | as for job I hope I will get some half-time work in netcracker corp. :) half-time is very good for me - some time for shoguning and some time for university studies | 20:57 |
@bettyboo | <:*) | 20:58 |
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serialhex | ZOMG!!! sonney2k YOU'RE ON PLOS!?!?!?!??!?!???!?!!?!!?!? | 21:36 |
@sonney2k | serialhex, ? | 21:36 |
serialhex | THAT'S LIKE SPIFFY^AWESOME^ SWEET!!!! | 21:36 |
serialhex | the link up there: http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1000173 | 21:36 |
* blackburn is not wondering at all :) | 21:37 | |
serialhex | i havn't really checked you out, but that's really cool, i didnt know you had articles published :D | 21:37 |
blackburn | hehe | 21:38 |
serialhex | and i *LOVE* plos!!! | 21:38 |
@sonney2k | serialhex, well I have a PhD so I naturally publish(ed) things | 21:38 |
blackburn | surprise :) | 21:39 |
* serialhex just made that connection... feelse like a dunce :P | 21:39 | |
serialhex | well i still think it's spiffy, and am going to have to read it! | 21:39 |
@sonney2k | I guess it is as surprising for researchers that I can program a bit | 21:40 |
blackburn | a bit? :D | 21:40 |
@sonney2k | so serialhex considers me to be the prgrammer and is now surprised about my double life :D | 21:40 |
serialhex | yeah, weird huh? :P | 21:41 |
blackburn | at night you are a programmer | 21:41 |
blackburn | and normally you don't know C++ | 21:41 |
blackburn | hehe | 21:41 |
blackburn | double agent | 21:41 |
serialhex | oh, btw, i havnt found a solution to the module not loading thing yet, but i was getting some errors while compiling for ruby 1.8.7 & 1.9.2 and i (think) i've fixed it, compiling now & testing 1.8.7 | 21:41 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, you pointed out so many issues in shogun... I am just hoping it will be much better when the summer is over :D | 21:41 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, yeah 00 shogun | 21:42 |
blackburn | sonney2k: if a whole shogun with all these typemaps, 'core' is program 'a bit' | 21:42 |
blackburn | when I don't know what is to program not a bit :) | 21:42 |
blackburn | let it be a big | 21:43 |
blackburn | :D | 21:43 |
blackburn | sonney2k: next summer shogun will became OS :D | 21:43 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, and you will mentor this :D | 21:44 |
blackburn | idea: Transform shogun into OS | 21:44 |
blackburn | oh no I don't wanna became mentor, I'm too greedy :) | 21:44 |
@sonney2k | mentor blackburn | 21:44 |
serialhex | i think blackburn would be a good mentor! | 21:46 |
* sonney2k nods | 21:46 | |
@sonney2k | i think is is already some kind of mentor to all people in this channel | 21:47 |
serialhex | yeah, he's helped me out a few times | 21:47 |
@sonney2k | s/is/he | 21:47 |
@sonney2k | he has helped me too | 21:47 |
@sonney2k | a couple of times... | 21:48 |
* blackburn don't understand what these guys are talking about | 21:48 | |
blackburn | :) | 21:48 |
* sonney2k skoal blackburn! | 21:48 | |
blackburn | really, I'd like to be a student for next gsoc if it is possible | 21:49 |
blackburn | if things will be going well | 21:49 |
@sonney2k | nah I just noticed that we have a doctors appointment exactly when I scheduled the meeting tomorrow | 21:51 |
blackburn | oh I forgot about it too | 21:51 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, looks like 2 of the students didn't send progress reports | 21:51 |
blackburn | sonney2k: should I kill they? | 21:52 |
blackburn | :D | 21:52 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, with one of the knives serialhex sells? | 21:52 |
blackburn | sonney2k: with nuclear weapon! | 21:52 |
blackburn | or a bear | 21:52 |
@sonney2k | yeah that collaterial damage is acceptable | 21:53 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, a drunken bear - vodka intoxicated ? | 21:53 |
blackburn | sonney2k: well so should I launch missiles to UK and India? | 21:53 |
serialhex | heh heh drunken bear with knives!!! :P | 21:53 |
@bettyboo | ! | 21:53 |
blackburn | sonney2k: yeap drunken bear is powerful | 21:53 |
blackburn | drunken bear with nuclear missiles | 21:54 |
blackburn | and knives | 21:54 |
blackburn | sonney2k: you said eh.. | 21:54 |
blackburn | that guy | 21:54 |
blackburn | working on online learning | 21:55 |
serialhex | wow blackburn, that'd be insane!!! :D | 21:55 |
blackburn | so that he is writing mails and everything is ok | 21:55 |
blackburn | alesis-novik: hello! :) | 21:55 |
serialhex | i think alesis-novik has disappeared :P | 22:06 |
blackburn | hunging up with girls and vodka | 22:06 |
blackburn | I don't sure I said something comprehensible ^ :D | 22:07 |
blackburn | serialhex: is it ok to say this way? | 22:07 |
blackburn | hey it is summer in russia already | 22:10 |
blackburn | 1st of June | 22:10 |
serialhex | blackburn: it'd be better like this: | 22:11 |
serialhex | hanging out with girls and vodka | 22:11 |
serialhex | i'm not sure i said something comprehensible ^ :D | 22:11 |
serialhex | and the rest is good | 22:11 |
blackburn | oh ok | 22:11 |
blackburn | at least I'm saying something one can comprehend :) | 22:12 |
serialhex | yes indeed! you're making less mistakes then you were when the chat first opened :D | 22:12 |
blackburn | have to go for some studies, later | 22:12 |
serialhex | ok, take care! | 22:13 |
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* blackburn is back | 23:31 | |
blackburn | sonney2k: I will be in car moving to toliatty at 14:00 UTC :) | 23:32 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, yeah perfect | 23:33 |
blackburn | sonney2k: not so | 23:33 |
blackburn | well I will be home finally at ~16:30 UTC | 23:33 |
blackburn | so I dk how to participate in meeting | 23:34 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, in the end I only want to ask students /mentors how far they got (compare that to schedule) and how we can improve workflow... | 23:34 |
blackburn | sonney2k: well I'm saying what's on my mind right to you :) | 23:36 |
@sonney2k | yeah I know | 23:36 |
blackburn | sonney2k: btw about schedule - idk if it is very bad - but I don't have strict schedule by this moment | 23:37 |
@sonney2k | gsoc is running for 1 week just now so don't panic | 23:38 |
blackburn | it is just because I feel comfortable to make a short-term planning :) | 23:40 |
blackburn | oh damn I have exam on parallel computing in 6 hrs hehe | 23:44 |
@sonney2k | just pass it :D | 23:48 |
@bettyboo | :*) | 23:48 |
blackburn | oh I hate MPI | 23:49 |
blackburn | really hate it :D | 23:49 |
blackburn | the most ugliest thing I worked with | 23:51 |
@sonney2k | is openmp any better? | 23:52 |
blackburn | I don't know, never used OpenMP | 23:53 |
blackburn | for some reason I don't like the idea of parallel computing but like concurrent | 23:54 |
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