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| --- Day changed Sun Jun 12 2011 | ||
| @sonney2k | it is a bit strenuous though - carrying my daughter on my shoulders for a few hours | 00:00 | 
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| @sonney2k | I guess I will loose a bit of height :D | 00:00 | 
| @bettyboo | grin | 00:00 | 
| blackburn | is she so weighty? :D | 00:00 | 
| blackburn | how height are you? | 00:01 | 
| @sonney2k | at least you seem to live on the same planet | 00:01 | 
| blackburn | yeah seems so | 00:02 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, which city btw? | 00:02 | 
| blackburn | toliatty | 00:03 | 
| blackburn | may be you know 'lada' cars? it is produced here | 00:03 | 
| @sonney2k | ahh sure yes | 00:03 | 
| @sonney2k | you have some river / water there too | 00:03 | 
| @sonney2k | and lots of parks it seems | 00:04 | 
| blackburn | yeap | 00:04 | 
| blackburn | but houses are ugly! | 00:04 | 
| blackburn | a lot of gray beton boxes | 00:04 | 
| @sonney2k | use ink then :D | 00:04 | 
| @sonney2k | Re weight/height... I don't exactly know maybe 10kg / me 1.90m | 00:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: from river side it looks http://www.ittlt.ru/img/user/227/1237796218.jpg | 00:05 | 
| blackburn | wow you are tall | 00:05 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I need to be - my daughter demands to get a nice view :D | 00:06 | 
| blackburn | hehe | 00:06 | 
| @bettyboo | <:*) | 00:07 | 
| blackburn | btw it is volga river | 00:07 | 
| blackburn | actually 'water storage' or so - there are a lot of dam on this river :) | 00:09 | 
| blackburn | so water is kind of dirty :D | 00:09 | 
| @sonney2k | too bad | 00:09 | 
| @sonney2k | it is okish to swim in the lake here | 00:10 | 
| @sonney2k | if it gets too much sun algae quickly turn it greenish but still | 00:10 | 
| * blackburn don't know what algae is | 00:10 | |
| blackburn | googled :) | 00:11 | 
| blackburn | volga river here is greenish too | 00:11 | 
| blackburn | because of dam | 00:11 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: how old are your daughter? | 00:12 | 
| @sonney2k | 1.5 years now | 00:13 | 
| blackburn | I see | 00:13 | 
| blackburn | today I got to know how old are Chris' - I wondered :) | 00:14 | 
| blackburn | it is so unusual to me that phd students are ~30 yrs old | 00:14 | 
| @sonney2k | trying to reproduce words - and scarily effective at this | 00:15 | 
| @sonney2k | all Germans are old *heh* | 00:15 | 
| blackburn | with that ecology I could die at 50-60 so I have to live faster than you :D | 00:15 | 
| @sonney2k | exaclty | 00:16 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: why you was learning russian at school? it was after ussr falling, right? | 00:18 | 
| blackburn | I hope I not bother you with these questions :) i'm curious | 00:19 | 
| @bettyboo | 8) | 00:19 | 
| @sonney2k | no before | 00:19 | 
| @sonney2k | I am old | 00:19 | 
| @sonney2k | :D | 00:19 | 
| @bettyboo | lol ;) | 00:19 | 
| blackburn | have you finished school before 1991? | 00:19 | 
| @sonney2k | 10.5 years or so Russian and I wonder where all the vocabulary is | 00:20 | 
| @sonney2k | no | 00:20 | 
| @sonney2k | 1997 IIRC | 00:20 | 
| blackburn | so how can you study russian for 10.5 years if you wasn't studying it after 1991? | 00:20 | 
| @sonney2k | in German Abitur you have to do 2 foreign languages | 00:20 | 
| @sonney2k | so I did what I learned already (russian) and english | 00:21 | 
| blackburn | ah | 00:21 | 
| blackburn | и ничего не запомнилось? | 00:21 | 
| @sonney2k | nutschewo net | 00:22 | 
| blackburn | I think you will be able to understand if someone will saying something in russian in real | 00:23 | 
| blackburn | last summer I was trying to learn deutsch using Deutsch? Warum Nicht? hehe | 00:26 | 
| @sonney2k | heh | 00:26 | 
| @sonney2k | I think I will go to bed now | 00:26 | 
| blackburn | have a good sleep! | 00:26 | 
| blackburn | I think I should too, 2-27 | 00:27 | 
| @sonney2k | yeah cu and good luck with your next exam... | 00:27 | 
| blackburn | it is 16 :) you could say it just before, on 15th :) | 00:27 | 
| blackburn | see you | 00:27 | 
| blackburn | some insomnia = some refactoring :D | 01:34 | 
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| blackburn | serialhex: hey | 01:35 | 
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| serialhex | hey blackburn, computer is bein wonky | 01:42 | 
| blackburn | how are ya? | 01:42 | 
| serialhex | i've been pretty good | 01:45 | 
| serialhex | sorry for the delay, on the fone with a friend of mine | 01:45 | 
| serialhex | whats up with you? | 01:47 | 
| blackburn | serialhex: fine, have some insomnia I think so doing some refactoring of my algos | 01:52 | 
| serialhex | ahh, sounds like fun :D | 01:52 | 
| blackburn | well I completely forgot about SGMatrix type :) | 01:53 | 
| serialhex | yeah, i'm going to have to fix some types with the ruby bindings... | 01:54 | 
| blackburn | and I was wrong using column major | 01:54 | 
| blackburn | tfu | 01:54 | 
| blackburn | row major instead of column | 01:54 | 
| serialhex | ooh!!! that's got to be a bitch!! | 01:55 | 
| blackburn | not for sure, just some indexing | 01:55 | 
| serialhex | hmm... i'm trying to figure out why xfce stopped working... | 01:56 | 
| serialhex | i had to shut off my computer today [i almost cried then... ;( ] and when i turned it back on xfce's WM dosnt work any more | 01:57 | 
| blackburn | willkommen to linux hehe | 01:57 | 
| @bettyboo | 8) | 01:58 | 
| serialhex | well at least in linux i can fall back to enlightenment or something & continue to work, in windoze i'd have to fix the problem before i could get *any* work done | 01:59 | 
| @bettyboo | you here? | 01:59 | 
| serialhex | no i'm not here bettyboo | 01:59 | 
| @bettyboo | serialhex: i'm mostly stuck with the webchat version here.. and that too on a lab computer | 01:59 | 
| blackburn | damn | 01:59 | 
| blackburn | :D | 01:59 | 
| blackburn | bettyboo: what's wrong with you? | 02:00 | 
| @bettyboo | blackburn: may be straightly to you? | 02:00 | 
| serialhex | i think she's hitting on you blackburn... :P | 02:01 | 
| serialhex | bbl... tryin some debuggin! | 02:07 | 
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| serialhex | SWEET!!! it works!! now for a shower & some dinner! :P | 02:10 | 
| blackburn | enjoy your meal | 02:13 | 
| alesis-novik | blackburn, you are not sleeping why? :) | 03:01 | 
| blackburn | alesis-novik: idk I can't stop doing pull requests :D | 03:02 | 
| alesis-novik | I should write this weeks report... | 03:02 | 
| blackburn | just write :) | 03:04 | 
| blackburn | I've made three pull requests heheh | 03:07 | 
| blackburn | alesis-novik: why you don't sleep too? | 03:10 | 
| alesis-novik | I'm nocturnal | 03:20 | 
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| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r0410dce / (5 files): Merge branch 'mds' of git://github.com/SergeyLisitsyn/shogun (+5 more commits...) - http://bit.ly/kTxsQI | 22:02 | 
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| blackburn | sonney2k: triple pull request :D | 22:06 | 
| alesis-novik | blackburn, connection problems? | 22:06 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, massive indeed | 22:07 | 
| @sonney2k | thanks for the patch | 22:07 | 
| @sonney2k | es | 22:07 | 
| blackburn | alesis-novik: oh I guess it looks disturbing :D yeap, something wrong with my wi-fi AP | 22:07 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: now three dim red. algos is in | 22:11 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: do you know some genomic dataset where I can use pairwise distances? | 22:15 | 
| blackburn | I just asking because I pretty bad in that | 22:16 | 
| blackburn | it could be example for mds or so | 22:16 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, well the splicing data set C_elegans_acc_seq could work - you would need a distance derived from the WeightedDegreeKernel to work nicely | 22:27 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: thanks, will try to make something | 22:28 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: does it makes sense to get a 2d or 3d embedding of that data? | 22:29 | 
| blackburn | is it comprehensible? | 22:29 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I don't know.... | 22:29 | 
| blackburn | I mean some good example could be to find that some sequence is near to another in 2d mapping | 22:31 | 
| @sonney2k | I can only tell that I can classify with high accuracy and that kernel | 22:31 | 
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| blackburn1 | damn! | 22:35 | 
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| alesis-novik | Should SG_REF be used after creating new class instances in shogun? | 22:49 | 
| alesis-novik | or does the SGObject constructor do that by default? | 22:50 | 
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, it is not done by default no | 22:53 | 
| alesis-novik | sonney2k, thanks | 22:53 | 
| @sonney2k | do it whenever you keep a local ptr to your object and use other functions | 22:53 | 
| alesis-novik | though if I don't pass anything on, I can just use delete to clean up, correct? | 22:56 | 
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| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, I would always use SG_UNREF | 23:18 | 
| alesis-novik | sonney2k, so would you always use SG_REF and SG_UNREF when dealing with shogun objects? As in SG_REF after every created object and SG_UNREF when you're not using it any more | 23:24 | 
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, that is the safe way | 23:25 | 
| alesis-novik | I'll probably submit my code for a pull request tomorrow or today. Hopefully there won't be any style mistakes. | 23:27 | 
| alesis-novik | I get confused when I jump from coding something else to shogun and back | 23:27 | 
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