IRC logs of #shogun for Sunday, 2011-06-12

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@sonney2kit is a bit strenuous though - carrying my daughter on my shoulders for a few hours00:00
@sonney2kI guess I will loose a bit of height :D00:00
@bettyboogrin00:00
blackburnis she so weighty? :D00:00
blackburnhow height are you?00:01
@sonney2kat least you seem to live on the same planet00:01
blackburnyeah seems so00:02
@sonney2kblackburn, which city btw?00:02
blackburntoliatty00:03
blackburnmay be you know 'lada' cars? it is produced here00:03
@sonney2kahh sure yes00:03
@sonney2kyou have some river / water there too00:03
@sonney2kand lots of parks it seems00:04
blackburnyeap00:04
blackburnbut houses are ugly!00:04
blackburna lot of gray beton boxes00:04
@sonney2kuse ink then :D00:04
@sonney2kRe weight/height... I don't exactly know maybe 10kg / me 1.90m00:05
blackburnsonney2k: from river side it looks http://www.ittlt.ru/img/user/227/1237796218.jpg00:05
blackburnwow you are tall00:05
@sonney2kblackburn, I need to be - my daughter demands to get a nice view :D00:06
blackburnhehe00:06
@bettyboo<:*)00:07
blackburnbtw it is volga river00:07
blackburnactually 'water storage' or so - there are a lot of dam on this river :)00:09
blackburnso water is kind of dirty :D00:09
@sonney2ktoo bad00:09
@sonney2kit is okish to swim in the lake here00:10
@sonney2kif it gets too much sun algae quickly turn it greenish but still00:10
* blackburn don't know what algae is00:10
blackburngoogled :)00:11
blackburnvolga river here is greenish too00:11
blackburnbecause of dam00:11
blackburnsonney2k: how old are your daughter?00:12
@sonney2k1.5 years now00:13
blackburnI see00:13
blackburntoday I got to know how old are Chris' - I wondered :)00:14
blackburnit is so unusual to me that phd students are ~30 yrs old00:14
@sonney2ktrying to reproduce words - and scarily effective at this00:15
@sonney2kall Germans are old *heh*00:15
blackburnwith that ecology I could die at 50-60 so I have to live faster than you :D00:15
@sonney2kexaclty00:16
blackburnsonney2k: why you was learning russian at school? it was after ussr falling, right?00:18
blackburnI hope I not bother you with these questions :) i'm curious00:19
@bettyboo8)00:19
@sonney2kno before00:19
@sonney2kI am old00:19
@sonney2k:D00:19
@bettyboolol ;)00:19
blackburnhave you finished school before 1991?00:19
@sonney2k10.5 years or so Russian and I wonder where all the vocabulary is00:20
@sonney2kno00:20
@sonney2k1997 IIRC00:20
blackburnso how can you study russian for 10.5 years if you wasn't studying it after 1991?00:20
@sonney2kin German Abitur you have to do 2 foreign languages00:20
@sonney2kso I did what I learned already (russian) and english00:21
blackburnah00:21
blackburnи ничего не запомнилось?00:21
@sonney2knutschewo net00:22
blackburnI think you will be able to understand if someone will saying something in russian in real00:23
blackburnlast summer I was trying to learn deutsch using Deutsch? Warum Nicht? hehe00:26
@sonney2kheh00:26
@sonney2kI think I will go to bed now00:26
blackburnhave a good sleep!00:26
blackburnI think I should too, 2-2700:27
@sonney2kyeah cu and good luck with your next exam...00:27
blackburnit is 16 :) you could say it just before, on 15th :)00:27
blackburnsee you00:27
blackburnsome insomnia = some refactoring :D01:34
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blackburnserialhex: hey01:35
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serialhexhey blackburn, computer is bein wonky01:42
blackburnhow are ya?01:42
serialhexi've been pretty good01:45
serialhexsorry for the delay, on the fone with a friend of mine01:45
serialhexwhats up with you?01:47
blackburnserialhex: fine, have some insomnia I think so doing some refactoring of my algos01:52
serialhexahh, sounds like fun :D01:52
blackburnwell I completely forgot about SGMatrix type :)01:53
serialhexyeah, i'm going to have to fix some types with the ruby bindings...01:54
blackburnand I was wrong using column major01:54
blackburntfu01:54
blackburnrow major instead of column01:54
serialhexooh!!! that's got to be a bitch!!01:55
blackburnnot for sure, just some indexing01:55
serialhexhmm... i'm trying to figure out why xfce stopped working...01:56
serialhexi had to shut off my computer today [i almost cried then... ;( ] and when i turned it back on xfce's WM dosnt work any more01:57
blackburnwillkommen to linux hehe01:57
@bettyboo8)01:58
serialhexwell at least in linux i can fall back to enlightenment or something & continue to work, in windoze i'd have to fix the problem before i could get *any* work done01:59
@bettybooyou here?01:59
serialhexno i'm not here bettyboo01:59
@bettybooserialhex: i'm mostly stuck with the webchat version here.. and that too on a lab computer01:59
blackburndamn01:59
blackburn:D01:59
blackburnbettyboo: what's wrong with you?02:00
@bettybooblackburn: may be straightly to you?02:00
serialhexi think she's hitting on you blackburn... :P02:01
serialhexbbl... tryin some debuggin!02:07
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serialhexSWEET!!!  it works!!  now for a shower & some dinner! :P02:10
blackburnenjoy your meal02:13
alesis-novikblackburn, you are not sleeping why? :)03:01
blackburnalesis-novik: idk I can't stop doing pull requests :D03:02
alesis-novikI should write this weeks report...03:02
blackburnjust write :)03:04
blackburnI've made three pull requests heheh03:07
blackburnalesis-novik: why you don't sleep too?03:10
alesis-novikI'm nocturnal03:20
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CIA-18shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r0410dce / (5 files): Merge branch 'mds' of git://github.com/SergeyLisitsyn/shogun (+5 more commits...) - http://bit.ly/kTxsQI22:02
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blackburnsonney2k: triple pull request :D22:06
alesis-novikblackburn, connection problems?22:06
@sonney2kblackburn, massive indeed22:07
@sonney2kthanks for the patch22:07
@sonney2kes22:07
blackburnalesis-novik: oh I guess it looks disturbing :D yeap, something wrong with my wi-fi AP22:07
blackburnsonney2k: now three dim red. algos is in22:11
blackburnsonney2k: do you know some genomic dataset where I can use pairwise distances?22:15
blackburnI just asking because I pretty bad in that22:16
blackburnit could be example for mds or so22:16
@sonney2kblackburn, well the splicing data set C_elegans_acc_seq could work - you would need a distance derived from the WeightedDegreeKernel to work nicely22:27
blackburnsonney2k: thanks, will try to make something22:28
blackburnsonney2k: does it makes sense to get a 2d or 3d embedding of that data?22:29
blackburnis it comprehensible?22:29
@sonney2kblackburn, I don't know....22:29
blackburnI mean some good example could be to find that some sequence is near to another in 2d mapping22:31
@sonney2kI can only tell that I can classify with high accuracy and that kernel22:31
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blackburn1damn!22:35
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alesis-novikShould SG_REF be used after creating new class instances in shogun?22:49
alesis-novikor does the SGObject constructor do that by default?22:50
@sonney2kalesis-novik, it is not done by default no22:53
alesis-noviksonney2k, thanks22:53
@sonney2kdo it whenever you keep a local ptr to your object and use other functions22:53
alesis-novikthough if I don't pass anything on, I can just use delete to clean up, correct?22:56
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@sonney2kalesis-novik, I would always use SG_UNREF23:18
alesis-noviksonney2k, so would you always use SG_REF and SG_UNREF when dealing with shogun objects? As in SG_REF after every created object and SG_UNREF when you're not using it any more23:24
@sonney2kalesis-novik, that is the safe way23:25
alesis-novikI'll probably submit my code for a pull request tomorrow or today. Hopefully there won't be any style mistakes.23:27
alesis-novikI get confused when I jump from coding something else to shogun and back23:27
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