IRC logs of #shogun for Sunday, 2011-09-04

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CIA-3shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * rd744130 / src/shogun/kernel/HistogramWordStringKernel.cpp : Resolved HistogramWordStringKernel testsuite issue - http://git.io/ucuI5A12:37
blackburnsonney2k: around?20:57
@sonney2kyes20:57
blackburnsonney2k: I was thinking about more 'modular' structure of shogun20:57
blackburni.e. we have to update libsvm/etc and store it's sources20:58
@sonney2k?20:58
blackburncan you see any way to do it more elegant?20:58
@sonney2kblackburn, we don't have original libsvm in there20:58
@sonney2kit is changed at various places20:58
blackburnsonney2k: what do we have?20:58
@sonney2kI modified some parts20:58
blackburnain't it a problem?20:58
@sonney2klike shogun's kernels are used20:59
@sonney2kwe can train with bias turned off20:59
@sonney2kand some features removed like libsvms x-val20:59
@sonney2kblackburn, ahh and ctrl+c handling21:01
blackburnsonney2k: I see21:01
@sonney2kthe only way around this is some callback function support *in libsvm* for all the things we need21:01
@sonney2knot sure if cj-lin would like this21:01
blackburnsonney2k: I have some thoughts that do the things like we planned to do with c50 is the right way21:02
blackburnsth loosely bounded21:03
@sonney2kblackburn, you mean not integrate but just use?21:03
blackburnyes, just wrap things if it is possible21:03
@sonney2kit is tough - because we want c5.0 to use our data format21:03
blackburnsonney2k: we got some offense on that russian forum hehe21:11
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@sonney2kblackburn, because of what?21:11
blackburn1. Manual memory management is scattered throughout the project.21:12
blackburn2. Pointers and passing by the signs, where to be passing by reference and objectswith smart pointers inside.21:12
blackburn3. Sewn into the code data types. How much will it cost to replace mathematicsfloat64_t on float32_t?21:12
blackburn4. Lack of const.21:12
blackburnIn order to avoid any questions asked here this code21:12
blackburnvoid set_global_version (Version * version);21:12
blackburnVersion * get_global_version ();21:12
blackburnshould look like this:21:12
blackburnvoid set_global_version (const Version & version);21:12
blackburnVersion get_global_version () const;21:12
blackburn5. Class variables should be different from the local: x_ instead of x.21:12
blackburnvia google translate21:13
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@sonney2kblackburn, I am not a big fan of the const stuff21:16
@sonney2kconst business causes all kinds of issues - but YMMV21:16
@sonney2kclass variables are different than the local21:17
@sonney2kthey should be m_x instead of x21:17
@sonney2kblackburn, I don't understand 321:17
blackburnsonney2k: he said we use float64_t everywhere21:18
@sonney2kregarding 1-2 - if someone has a better idea how to make this work with swig we sure should use it if it is more elegant?21:18
@sonney2kblackburn, and?21:18
@sonney2kI don't understand the problem21:18
blackburnand if we wanted to change that - it would be pain in the ass21:18
@sonney2ksed s/float64_t/double/21:19
@sonney2k?21:19
blackburnhah21:19
blackburnI don't know what to answer21:19
@sonney2kI guess he meant that changing float64 -> float32 is hard?21:19
@sonney2kthis is something one should / cannot do21:20
@sonney2kthat is why one chooses float64 / 32 for a reason21:20
blackburnyes21:20
blackburnsonney2k: he makes me sad :D21:27
blackburnsonney2k: http://www.linux.org.ru/news/opensource/6689178 try to read my last answers heh21:27
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@sonney2kblackburn, I am reconfiguring website / things21:48
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blackburnsonney2k: I see21:49
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blackburnsonney2k: hey but why/22:10
blackburn?22:10
blackburnreconfiguring22:10
@sonney2kapache is just too slow22:10
@sonney2kI am trying to switch to fapws3 and pound22:10
blackburnsonney2k: ah I see22:10
CIA-3shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r7f707b1 / (2 files): Cleaned base Preprocessor class - http://git.io/385Hpg23:05
@sonney2kblackburn, still there?23:35
blackburnsonney2k: yeap23:35
@sonney2kdoes shogun-toolbox.org load faster for you?23:35
@sonney2kor some doc behind it?23:35
blackburn~ same23:35
blackburnwill try doc23:35
blackburnyeah faster23:35
@sonney2kk23:36
@sonney2kblackburn, that's nginx running instead of apache now23:37
blackburnsonney2k: as expected :)23:37
blackburnsonney2k: what is the colours you like?23:38
@sonney2kno idea23:38
blackburnok :)23:38
blackburnsonney2k: why you called shogun as shogun? do you like japanese %anything? :)23:39
@sonney2kblackburn, soeren & gunnar (well ok my name does not really start with sho but remotely similar)23:40
blackburnsonney2k: yes I know but it is kinda hard to pronounce, etc23:40
@sonney2kreason or raeson would not have been better23:41
@sonney2k(I did prefer shogun)23:41
blackburnsonney2k: what do you think about logo without these glyphs?23:42
@sonney2kwell I like the glyphs23:43
@sonney2kkanjis :)23:43
blackburnsonney2k: ok got an idea23:44
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