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| CIA-3 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * rd744130 / src/shogun/kernel/HistogramWordStringKernel.cpp : Resolved HistogramWordStringKernel testsuite issue - http://git.io/ucuI5A | 12:37 | 
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| blackburn | sonney2k: around? | 20:57 | 
| @sonney2k | yes | 20:57 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I was thinking about more 'modular' structure of shogun | 20:57 | 
| blackburn | i.e. we have to update libsvm/etc and store it's sources | 20:58 | 
| @sonney2k | ? | 20:58 | 
| blackburn | can you see any way to do it more elegant? | 20:58 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, we don't have original libsvm in there | 20:58 | 
| @sonney2k | it is changed at various places | 20:58 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: what do we have? | 20:58 | 
| @sonney2k | I modified some parts | 20:58 | 
| blackburn | ain't it a problem? | 20:58 | 
| @sonney2k | like shogun's kernels are used | 20:59 | 
| @sonney2k | we can train with bias turned off | 20:59 | 
| @sonney2k | and some features removed like libsvms x-val | 20:59 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ahh and ctrl+c handling | 21:01 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I see | 21:01 | 
| @sonney2k | the only way around this is some callback function support *in libsvm* for all the things we need | 21:01 | 
| @sonney2k | not sure if cj-lin would like this | 21:01 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I have some thoughts that do the things like we planned to do with c50 is the right way | 21:02 | 
| blackburn | sth loosely bounded | 21:03 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, you mean not integrate but just use? | 21:03 | 
| blackburn | yes, just wrap things if it is possible | 21:03 | 
| @sonney2k | it is tough - because we want c5.0 to use our data format | 21:03 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: we got some offense on that russian forum hehe | 21:11 | 
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, because of what? | 21:11 | 
| blackburn | 1. Manual memory management is scattered throughout the project. | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | 2. Pointers and passing by the signs, where to be passing by reference and objectswith smart pointers inside. | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | 3. Sewn into the code data types. How much will it cost to replace mathematicsfloat64_t on float32_t? | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | 4. Lack of const. | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | In order to avoid any questions asked here this code | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | void set_global_version (Version * version); | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | Version * get_global_version (); | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | should look like this: | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | void set_global_version (const Version & version); | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | Version get_global_version () const; | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | 5. Class variables should be different from the local: x_ instead of x. | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | via google translate | 21:13 | 
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, I am not a big fan of the const stuff | 21:16 | 
| @sonney2k | const business causes all kinds of issues - but YMMV | 21:16 | 
| @sonney2k | class variables are different than the local | 21:17 | 
| @sonney2k | they should be m_x instead of x | 21:17 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I don't understand 3 | 21:17 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: he said we use float64_t everywhere | 21:18 | 
| @sonney2k | regarding 1-2 - if someone has a better idea how to make this work with swig we sure should use it if it is more elegant? | 21:18 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, and? | 21:18 | 
| @sonney2k | I don't understand the problem | 21:18 | 
| blackburn | and if we wanted to change that - it would be pain in the ass | 21:18 | 
| @sonney2k | sed s/float64_t/double/ | 21:19 | 
| @sonney2k | ? | 21:19 | 
| blackburn | hah | 21:19 | 
| blackburn | I don't know what to answer | 21:19 | 
| @sonney2k | I guess he meant that changing float64 -> float32 is hard? | 21:19 | 
| @sonney2k | this is something one should / cannot do | 21:20 | 
| @sonney2k | that is why one chooses float64 / 32 for a reason | 21:20 | 
| blackburn | yes | 21:20 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: he makes me sad :D | 21:27 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: http://www.linux.org.ru/news/opensource/6689178 try to read my last answers heh | 21:27 | 
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, I am reconfiguring website / things | 21:48 | 
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| blackburn | sonney2k: I see | 21:49 | 
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| blackburn | sonney2k: hey but why/ | 22:10 | 
| blackburn | ? | 22:10 | 
| blackburn | reconfiguring | 22:10 | 
| @sonney2k | apache is just too slow | 22:10 | 
| @sonney2k | I am trying to switch to fapws3 and pound | 22:10 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: ah I see | 22:10 | 
| CIA-3 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r7f707b1 / (2 files): Cleaned base Preprocessor class - http://git.io/385Hpg | 23:05 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, still there? | 23:35 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: yeap | 23:35 | 
| @sonney2k | does shogun-toolbox.org load faster for you? | 23:35 | 
| @sonney2k | or some doc behind it? | 23:35 | 
| blackburn | ~ same | 23:35 | 
| blackburn | will try doc | 23:35 | 
| blackburn | yeah faster | 23:35 | 
| @sonney2k | k | 23:36 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, that's nginx running instead of apache now | 23:37 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: as expected :) | 23:37 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: what is the colours you like? | 23:38 | 
| @sonney2k | no idea | 23:38 | 
| blackburn | ok :) | 23:38 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: why you called shogun as shogun? do you like japanese %anything? :) | 23:39 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, soeren & gunnar (well ok my name does not really start with sho but remotely similar) | 23:40 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: yes I know but it is kinda hard to pronounce, etc | 23:40 | 
| @sonney2k | reason or raeson would not have been better | 23:41 | 
| @sonney2k | (I did prefer shogun) | 23:41 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: what do you think about logo without these glyphs? | 23:42 | 
| @sonney2k | well I like the glyphs | 23:43 | 
| @sonney2k | kanjis :) | 23:43 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: ok got an idea | 23:44 | 
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