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| blackburn | n4nd0: hey, was my suggestion helpful? :) | 19:37 |
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| n4nd0 | blackburn: hey! thank you very much for your answer by mail :) | 20:04 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: I finished the MahalanobisDistance class, I am going to prepare a small test to check if the results are good | 20:04 |
| blackburn | nice! | 20:09 |
| n4nd0 | have to go now, we talk later | 20:12 |
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| blackburn | ok cu | 20:18 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, any comments to http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/gsoc-ideas.html ? | 21:55 |
| @sonney2k | I would now send this around to mentors for double checking... | 21:55 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: no, but going to update multiclass thing in next hour | 21:56 |
| blackburn | well feel free to send, this one is for you | 21:56 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: did you get any answer from alex binder? | 21:57 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ? | 21:58 |
| @sonney2k | about what? | 21:58 |
| blackburn | well you were unsure about him? | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | what should I have asked hiim? | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | no | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | I asked him weeks ago and said he is still up to it | 21:59 |
| blackburn | ah then did wiking get an answer? | 21:59 |
| blackburn | btw where is he :( | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | wiking was supposed to send him an email + cc me | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | didn't receive any email yet... | 21:59 |
| @sonney2k | so no idea | 21:59 |
| blackburn | damn | 22:00 |
| blackburn | I mean he is probably very good choice for this task | 22:00 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, considering that you already work with code he contributed - yes :) | 22:00 |
| blackburn | hah yeah | 22:01 |
| blackburn | I think we have good ideas | 22:03 |
| blackburn | lesser than last year but more focused | 22:03 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: what do you think should has priority? ecoc or trees? | 22:11 |
| @sonney2k | I think having less is better | 22:11 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I think ovr / ovo / and then the nips paper stuff (trees) | 22:12 |
| blackburn | I am for ecoc, but it is mainly up to you | 22:13 |
| blackburn | why did you include cheng soon? :) | 22:13 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, what is up with cheng? | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, arent' trees just a special case of ecoc? | 22:16 |
| blackburn | I just curious what is he is interested | 22:16 |
| blackburn | no, I'd say no | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | look at the idea - then you know :) | 22:17 |
| blackburn | oh damn | 22:17 |
| blackburn | how did I miss it? | 22:17 |
| blackburn | :D | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, IIRC ecoc is just a general name to convert any multiclass problem into a sequence of 2 class problems | 22:18 |
| blackburn | yes but I don't think tree and ecoc principles are the same | 22:18 |
| blackburn | I can't imagine hamming distance thing on trees | 22:19 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, look at http://jmlr.csail.mit.edu/papers/volume11/escalera10a/escalera10a.pdf | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | ovo is one ecoc principle :) | 22:21 |
| blackburn | yes but trees are not.. | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, they are, cf. 2.1.2 | 22:22 |
| blackburn | damn | 22:23 |
| blackburn | ok I was wrong then | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | so I guess porting that ecoc library over from octave would be the real task with some subtle hard stuff | 22:25 |
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| blackburn | sonney2k: will you write down anything into vojtech's idea? | 22:30 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, vojtech will do - he was just busy with ICML deadline | 22:31 |
| @sonney2k | submission that is | 22:31 |
| blackburn | ah I see | 22:31 |
| blackburn | when do you plan to submit? | 22:31 |
| @sonney2k | the day the submission thing is open | 22:32 |
| @sonney2k | ...and then polish - as usual | 22:32 |
| blackburn | why do you hurry? | 22:33 |
| @sonney2k | no hurry | 22:35 |
| axitkhurana | Hi, I don't have much experience in ML, I would like to learn and contribute. | 22:52 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: still here? | 22:52 |
| blackburn | axitkhurana: hi | 22:52 |
| axitkhurana | blackburn: I have done some work in python (and django) | 22:53 |
| axitkhurana | Could you suggest where to start? | 22:53 |
| blackburn | hmm | 22:54 |
| blackburn | do you have any ml experience? | 22:54 |
| axitkhurana | not much. | 22:55 |
| blackburn | hmm | 22:55 |
| blackburn | ok let me think | 22:56 |
| blackburn | so you want to study ML or rather to contribute into non-ML parts of shogun? | 22:57 |
| axitkhurana | I'd like to study ML. | 22:58 |
| blackburn | okay I see | 22:59 |
| blackburn | have you checked examples? | 22:59 |
| axitkhurana | Although I would not mind contributing to non-ML parts too. | 22:59 |
| axitkhurana | Not yet. | 22:59 |
| blackburn | ok while you have python example | 23:00 |
| blackburn | err experience :) | 23:00 |
| blackburn | you could do following | 23:00 |
| blackburn | install shogun/try some examples | 23:01 |
| blackburn | then you may implement some simple graphical example with downloader | 23:01 |
| axitkhurana | ok, I've installed shogun | 23:01 |
| axitkhurana | I'll try some examples | 23:02 |
| blackburn | http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/datasets/Iris | 23:02 |
| blackburn | when you could generalize to UCI repo | 23:04 |
| blackburn | i.e. user would be able to choose dataset, download data and approach the problem with shogun | 23:04 |
| blackburn | is the idea clear for you? | 23:04 |
| axitkhurana | yes | 23:05 |
| axitkhurana | thanks, I'll try a few examples and get back to you. | 23:09 |
| blackburn | ok | 23:10 |
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