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| n4nd0 | good night people | 00:06 |
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| CIA-64 | shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r5027750 / (19 files in 8 dirs): | 05:54 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: made CDynamicObjectArray non-generic and updated all usages, examples | 05:54 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: and interfaces - http://git.io/YpVjSA | 05:54 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * re4ab8a1 / (19 files in 8 dirs): | 05:54 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: Merge pull request #478 from karlnapf/master | 05:54 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: made DynamicObjectArray non-generic - http://git.io/THBm2Q | 05:54 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #512 of lua_modular is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/lua_modular/builds/512 | 06:41 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #509 of python_modular is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/python_modular/builds/509 | 06:59 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #504 of ruby_modular is complete: Failure [failed test_1] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ruby_modular/builds/504 blamelist: sonne@debian.org, heiko.strathmann@gmail.com | 07:05 |
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| wiking | mornin' | 10:40 |
| n4nd0 | good morning | 10:44 |
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| gsomix | hi | 11:25 |
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| n4nd0 | hey gsomix | 11:52 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: did you want to tell me something yesterday? | 11:52 |
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| gsomix | n4nd0, hey. how are you? | 11:57 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: I'm fine, making my way through SQL :) | 11:58 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: what about you? | 11:58 |
| gsomix | n4nd0, bored. I'm doing homework. | 11:59 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: what class? | 12:01 |
| gsomix | n4nd0, analytical mechanics (I recently found out what is the difference from theoretical mechanics). | 12:03 |
| n4nd0 | no idea about that :O | 12:04 |
| gsomix | theoretical mechanics in russian education == applied mechanics. calculations of beams, mechanisms and other | 12:12 |
| gsomix | n4nd0, what about SL | 12:16 |
| gsomix | *SQL? | 12:16 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: it is not bad, I am just learning the basics though | 12:17 |
| n4nd0 | so I won't probably get to know the usefulness of it | 12:17 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: do you sth about it? | 12:19 |
| n4nd0 | do you know* | 12:20 |
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| gsomix | n4nd0, nope. I remember only SELECT query and how to paint green GUI Forms in FoxPro. >___< | 12:23 |
| n4nd0 | :D | 12:27 |
| n4nd0 | I think you already know more than I do then :P | 12:28 |
| gsomix | huh :) | 12:28 |
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| blackburn_ | n4nd0: havin' troubles with sql? :) | 13:40 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: not really troubles, just going through the beginning of the learning curve :) | 13:41 |
| blackburn_ | I see | 13:41 |
| n4nd0 | the problem is that I don't find it very interesting this far | 13:41 |
| blackburn_ | useful skill I'd say | 13:41 |
| n4nd0 | I am not very motivated :( | 13:41 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: do you think so? | 13:42 |
| blackburn_ | yeap | 13:42 |
| blackburn_ | can you mind any other way to operate on some data? | 13:42 |
| n4nd0 | with search engines | 13:43 |
| blackburn_ | but how do they work then? :) | 13:43 |
| n4nd0 | AFAIK they are not built on databases | 13:44 |
| blackburn_ | what should it be then? | 13:44 |
| blackburn_ | anyway once you have some complex data you would meet some database usually | 13:45 |
| n4nd0 | I would like to see an environment where they are useful | 13:45 |
| blackburn_ | any enterprise application | 13:45 |
| blackburn_ | or even any application working with data | 13:46 |
| n4nd0 | put me an example of what you mean with application working with data | 13:46 |
| blackburn_ | what about twitter? | 13:46 |
| blackburn_ | facebook? | 13:46 |
| blackburn_ | aren't they built on top of database? | 13:47 |
| n4nd0 | they probable store all the info in databases yes | 13:47 |
| blackburn_ | yes specialized sometimes | 13:47 |
| blackburn_ | some kind of nosql sometimes | 13:48 |
| blackburn_ | how would you do any website with authorization? | 13:48 |
| blackburn_ | everything you can come up instead of database is some DYI database | 13:49 |
| n4nd0 | I am not familiarized with DYI database | 13:49 |
| blackburn_ | I mean it will be 'do it yourself' stuff | 13:50 |
| blackburn_ | :) | 13:50 |
| blackburn_ | there is really no other way to store data | 13:51 |
| blackburn_ | retrieve/change/etc | 13:51 |
| blackburn_ | any other attempt would lead to another database | 13:51 |
| n4nd0 | let's see if I get some motivation from there | 13:52 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: just imagine how difficult it would be to store some say orders | 13:54 |
| n4nd0 | orders? | 13:55 |
| blackburn_ | how would you approach it? | 13:55 |
| blackburn_ | yes some orders of some clients | 13:55 |
| blackburn_ | they like to have something | 13:55 |
| blackburn_ | :D | 13:55 |
| n4nd0 | have to reboot | 13:56 |
| n4nd0 | brb | 13:56 |
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| blackburn_ | n4nd0: so the simplest case - you want a website to sell plush bears | 13:59 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: yeah | 13:59 |
| blackburn_ | there is a form to store clients data like address, quantity etc | 13:59 |
| blackburn_ | how would you approach it (w/o database)? | 14:00 |
| blackburn_ | clients enter their data to order your bears and they actually do not care how it works | 14:00 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: yes, one needs a database for that | 14:00 |
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| blackburn_ | I'd say there could be a way to store that in files or so | 14:01 |
| blackburn_ | but what is it in fact? | 14:01 |
| n4nd0 | but I don't find that very interesting :P | 14:01 |
| blackburn_ | just some lame database | 14:01 |
| n4nd0 | yes, that would be to re-invent the wheel | 14:01 |
| blackburn_ | 99% of websites are like this one | 14:02 |
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| blackburn_ | n4nd0: in principle you could say 'I don't like websites' :) | 14:03 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: c'mon that's not the same | 14:03 |
| blackburn_ | what is the difference between plush bears web store and facebook? | 14:04 |
| blackburn_ | I'd say the only difference is some distributed databases and more complex technology and nothing more | 14:05 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: can you list any? :) | 14:06 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: I see more people spending time on facebook than on teddy bears webs | 14:08 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: but we are discussing technologies right? | 14:08 |
| n4nd0 | so there must be some difference apart from the way their databases are constructed :P | 14:08 |
| n4nd0 | got me ... | 14:09 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: no it is databases still | 14:09 |
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| blackburn_ | n4nd0: and you should know that SQL queries are being optimized before running | 14:11 |
| blackburn_ | there is a pretty big theory of databases and it allows you to retrieve data pretty fast | 14:12 |
| blackburn_ | moreover there are some things like transactions and user rights | 14:12 |
| blackburn_ | you would need all these things at some point | 14:12 |
| n4nd0 | it looks like something pretty big there | 14:12 |
| blackburn_ | and doing it once again is too hard for anyone | 14:13 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: are you familiar with joins? | 14:14 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: I have studied them in the course, but I wouldn't say I am very familiar with them | 14:14 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: can you write it in say C++? | 14:14 |
| blackburn_ | I would definitely fuck up with it | 14:15 |
| blackburn_ | but it is really needed sometimes and if you avoid databases you have to write it by yourself at some point | 14:15 |
| blackburn_ | so even if you need only a map of login/hash of password | 14:17 |
| blackburn_ | once you would need to extend it or retrieve some custom data | 14:17 |
| n4nd0 | I think you convinced me about the usefulness of it | 14:18 |
| n4nd0 | :) | 14:18 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: hehe yeah I told you a lot of things | 14:19 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: at the place I work (netcracker) - we develop crazy-complex operational support system | 14:20 |
| blackburn_ | it is pretty flexible and all the entities can be described by java objects | 14:21 |
| blackburn_ | however these java objects can't be really used to store data | 14:21 |
| blackburn_ | for example transactions would be pretty impossible | 14:22 |
| blackburn_ | and once you power off server you lost orders/clients data and lost money | 14:22 |
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| blackburn_ | so the only way is to build system on top of some robust database like oracle | 14:23 |
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| PhilTillet | Hello! | 15:33 |
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| gsomix | blackburn_, h | 15:53 |
| blackburn_ | d | 15:54 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, whre r u? | 15:54 |
| PhilTillet | blackburn_, p | 15:54 |
| blackburn_ | 711 as uslly | 15:54 |
| blackburn_ | PhilTillet: k | 15:54 |
| PhilTillet | lol | 15:54 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, sadl | 15:55 |
| blackburn_ | y? | 15:55 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, t hme :] | 15:56 |
| blackburn_ | dnner tme! | 15:57 |
| PhilTillet | this conversation makes no sense! | 15:58 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, wuld y lke pie? I hav lttl bt. | 15:59 |
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| @sonney2k | n4nd0, hey - did you have time to do the benchmark? | 19:01 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: not yet, sorry :( | 19:02 |
| @sonney2k | ahh too bad | 19:02 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, I hope you find some too | 19:02 |
| n4nd0 | I am fighting against a lab for one of my exams but I think I will get some by tomorrow afternoon | 19:02 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, ahh btw it would also be great if you can fix the warnings http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/python_modular/builds/509/steps/compile/logs/warnings%20%2830%29 | 19:03 |
| @sonney2k | they are all in your area ... | 19:03 |
| n4nd0 | sure | 19:03 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, when are your exams? | 19:03 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: 26th, 28th and on May 7th | 19:03 |
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| @sonney2k | n4nd0, saturday even? | 19:04 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, thx for the patch! | 19:04 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, np :) | 19:04 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: yeah, some microwaves for Saturday | 19:04 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, stay tuned for the subset stacks, just fixing the last tests | 19:04 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, does that error make sense to you http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ruby_modular/builds/504/steps/test_1/logs/stdio | 19:04 |
| @sonney2k | ? | 19:04 |
| @sonney2k | I was just looking at the buildbot output so forgive me all for nagging | 19:05 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, great! | 19:05 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, yes I think that has to do with the non-generic stuff, I have deleted one type | 19:06 |
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| karlnapf | I will check that as soon I am done with my current stuff | 19:06 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, k | 19:07 |
| @sonney2k | thx | 19:07 |
| @sonney2k | so tomorrow is the day and around 19:00 UTC we will all have some answers | 19:11 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, you are talking to me? :) | 19:13 |
| karlnapf | if yes: what? :) | 19:14 |
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| n4nd0 | I think I'll start to get nervous tomorrow :O | 19:18 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, no need to - all students are already assigned :P | 19:31 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, do you know of any memory leaks in stream features? | 19:32 |
| karlnapf | I get some for v_array | 19:33 |
| karlnapf | wondering if they are my fault | 19:33 |
| n4nd0 | karlnapf: I also got some once I used them | 19:34 |
| karlnapf | n4nd0, ok, where? I am getting them in the classifier_multiclasslinearmachine | 19:36 |
| karlnapf | example | 19:36 |
| n4nd0 | yeah I think it was in this one, let me check | 19:37 |
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| n4nd0 | yes, it was there | 19:38 |
| karlnapf | n4nd0, ok then | 19:39 |
| karlnapf | thats not my thing currently :) | 19:39 |
| karlnapf | I will perhaps write a bugreport | 19:39 |
| n4nd0 | yeah do that | 19:40 |
| n4nd0 | I remember I commented it when I did that pull request | 19:40 |
| n4nd0 | but I do not quite recall whether I opened an issue | 19:40 |
| karlnapf | ok I will check that first :) | 19:40 |
| n4nd0 | karlnapf: it was in the PR you helped me with a warning by the way | 19:42 |
| n4nd0 | karlnapf: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/401 | 19:42 |
| karlnapf | oh year, I remember | 19:42 |
| karlnapf | I think we should check memory leaks in the tests automatically | 19:43 |
| karlnapf | there might be more :) | 19:43 |
| n4nd0 | yeah, it is a good idea | 19:44 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, about your subset stack | 19:51 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, yes? | 19:51 |
| @sonney2k | it is attached to labels / features / whatever object? | 19:51 |
| karlnapf | yes | 19:51 |
| karlnapf | like the old one | 19:51 |
| @sonney2k | and then labels/features etc can just do a query -> subset_stack give me element i? | 19:52 |
| karlnapf | yes, nothing has changed interface wise (except for names) | 19:52 |
| karlnapf | but now if you do multiple add_subset(), you have subsets of subsets instead of replacing | 19:52 |
| @sonney2k | and subsetstack has some precomputed (cached) merged subset index that it will look up in a table? | 19:52 |
| karlnapf | so you have to remove everytime you add | 19:52 |
| karlnapf | yes | 19:53 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, remove in the same order then right? | 19:53 |
| karlnapf | actually, it stores all the "active" subsets of the stack | 19:53 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, wait so you can have many at the same time? | 19:53 |
| karlnapf | so that deleting one does not require to recompute | 19:53 |
| karlnapf | nono | 19:53 |
| karlnapf | just for performance | 19:53 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, what is a 'active' subset? | 19:54 |
| karlnapf | active subset is the merged | 19:54 |
| karlnapf | everytime you add another subset, that one is merged with the active | 19:54 |
| karlnapf | and put on stack | 19:54 |
| karlnapf | if you remove, you got the old active | 19:54 |
| karlnapf | and if you add this active is merged again | 19:54 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, I see makes a lot of sense | 19:55 |
| karlnapf | it might become slow for many subsets otherwise | 19:55 |
| karlnapf | at the cost of memory, but thats not too much | 19:55 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, I hope we won't have too many subsets but well this kind of cache won't hurt | 19:55 |
| @sonney2k | yeah it is not too much | 19:55 |
| @sonney2k | and disabling this would be easy if required | 19:56 |
| karlnapf | yes | 19:56 |
| karlnapf | if this stuff works, some things might be simplified | 19:56 |
| karlnapf | some of the locking stuff perhaps | 19:56 |
| karlnapf | and multiclass machine | 19:56 |
| karlnapf | ah and xval with multiclass machine is now possible | 19:56 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, I am happy with the patch ... it is too big to see all the consequences - so lets hope the buildbot will catch most issues. | 20:01 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r4328d97 / (33 files in 7 dirs): | 20:01 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: Merge pull request #480 from karlnapf/master | 20:01 |
| CIA-64 | shogun: Implement the new SubsetStack system (+23 more commits...) - http://git.io/h5JM_g | 20:01 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, Ill wait a bit to see what happens :) | 20:02 |
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| @sonney2k | karlnapf, it is very clear that we need this. I also hope that the compiler will take care of not doing another memory access because of the m_subset->do_sth() but instead do_sth() immediately | 20:02 |
| karlnapf | yes, all the methods are inline, hope that works | 20:03 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, I guess you haven't checked for performance right? I mean it doesn't matter that much for accessing a whole vector but it will hurt when sth like this is implemented for dims / aka sub_dims | 20:03 |
| karlnapf | no, no honset performance checks, | 20:03 |
| karlnapf | honest | 20:03 |
| karlnapf | thats probably expensive | 20:04 |
| karlnapf | but the main method is subset_idx_conversion | 20:04 |
| karlnapf | of CSubsetStack | 20:04 |
| karlnapf | and that is no too much stuff | 20:05 |
| karlnapf | one if and one -> | 20:05 |
| karlnapf | and of course the m_subset_stack-> | 20:05 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, yeah I don't see that we can do better | 20:06 |
| @sonney2k | probably automagic refcounting would kill us here but with this manual way all good | 20:06 |
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| karlnapf | one problem is: currently the index sets are copied everytime, that sometimes is stupid | 20:11 |
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| karlnapf | mmh I will recompile here | 20:11 |
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| @sonney2k | karlnapf, did you perhaps commit non-working intermediate things? | 20:12 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, if so you too have to start using git commit --amend :) | 20:12 |
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| karlnapf | sonney2k, not by intention | 20:13 |
| karlnapf | argh, sorry for that | 20:13 |
| karlnapf | mmmh compiles here | 20:16 |
| karlnapf | at least python_modular ... | 20:16 |
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| karlnapf | sonney2k, is this perhaps a buildbot not up-to-date thing? | 20:18 |
| karlnapf | shogun-buildbot status | 20:19 |
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| @sonney2k | karlnapf, it will build every commit | 20:22 |
| karlnapf | oh I did not know that thoug it would do the whole merge | 20:22 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, so if an intermediate commit is broken it will complain | 20:22 |
| karlnapf | mmh, I like to commit things seperate because then the messages are tidier | 20:23 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, it makes sense doesn't it? If you are looking for regressions you will exactly know which commit is kaboom | 20:23 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, yes you are right | 20:23 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, you can just ensure that it still builds | 20:23 |
| @sonney2k | and if you have to change a huge part of the code because of interdependencies | 20:23 |
| @sonney2k | well then it should be one commit only in the end (and your can do that with git commit --amend or the git reset magic) | 20:24 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, ok thanks, will do that in the future | 20:24 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, I have to leave now, have a nice evening! :) | 20:25 |
| @sonney2k | karlnapf, thanks for the patch | 20:25 |
| @sonney2k | and hope to see you and all tomorrow 19 UTC :) | 20:25 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, yes, I will try to be there :) | 20:26 |
| karlnapf | byebye | 20:26 |
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| puffin444 | hey | 20:27 |
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| blackburn_ | hey there | 20:37 |
| PhilTillet | hey | 20:37 |
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| blackburn_ | sonney2k: have you cold some vodka? | 20:42 |
| wiking | woooohoooooo | 20:42 |
| * wiking has a working latent svm !! | 20:42 | |
| blackburn_ | already? hey gsoc is starting tomorrow | 20:43 |
| wiking | hehehe who knows if i'm in or not ;P | 20:43 |
| wiking | we'll see tomorrow | 20:43 |
| wiking | buuuut | 20:43 |
| blackburn_ | soeren knows | 20:43 |
| wiking | the latent svm *is* WORKING!!! | 20:43 |
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| blackburn_ | wiking: in shogun? | 20:44 |
| wiking | blackburn_: yep! | 20:44 |
| wiking | not committed yet | 20:44 |
| blackburn_ | huh then congrats | 20:44 |
| wiking | i need to clean up the stuff | 20:44 |
| wiking | but it works!! | 20:44 |
| wiking | with those examples | 20:44 |
| wiking | that i've found yesterday | 20:44 |
| blackburn_ | visual detection? | 20:44 |
| wiking | yep | 20:44 |
| wiking | finding mammals | 20:45 |
| wiking | within images | 20:45 |
| blackburn_ | is it some simple window or that deformable model? | 20:45 |
| wiking | it's just a simple bounding box | 20:45 |
| blackburn_ | I see | 20:45 |
| blackburn_ | what is on your roadmap next? | 20:45 |
| wiking | but it depends of course your what's your latent variable... | 20:46 |
| wiking | now it was just a simple bounding box | 20:46 |
| wiking | well now it's first cleaning the code up | 20:46 |
| wiking | and commit it to the latent branch | 20:46 |
| wiking | see the reaction of alex | 20:46 |
| wiking | and if he is satisfied then i can go further improving | 20:46 |
| wiking | one of that would be to integrate a structural svm into it | 20:46 |
| wiking | but for that i want to clean up the whole thing with qp solvers within shogun that i've promised for sonney2k | 20:47 |
| wiking | and after that comes various improvements to the latent svm solver | 20:47 |
| wiking | and of course testing out some own ideas | 20:48 |
| wiking | i just needed now a framework where i can work with it | 20:48 |
| blackburn_ | I see | 20:48 |
| blackburn_ | that's nice | 20:48 |
| wiking | ok so now back to cleaning up the code | 20:48 |
| blackburn_ | do you mind to provide some sliding window genome analysis latent svm? | 20:49 |
| blackburn_ | would be cool example too | 20:49 |
| wiking | well | 20:49 |
| wiking | give me a dataset :D | 20:49 |
| blackburn_ | I am not the expert you know :) | 20:49 |
| wiking | i think i saw a paper that has been investigating this | 20:49 |
| wiking | i'll check | 20:49 |
| wiking | but yeah this most definitely will need some basic and some very complex example in shogun to demonstrate it's 'power' | 20:50 |
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| Marina | @sonney2k, hi , in the splice_data_set, there are only '-1' labels... should this be like this? | 21:02 |
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| harshit_ | hey n4nd0, hows everything going ! | 21:52 |
| n4nd0 | harshit_: hey! pse, just fine, preparing some exams | 21:52 |
| n4nd0 | harshit_: what about you? | 21:52 |
| harshit_ | same here, practical exams :( | 21:53 |
| harshit_ | hate microwaves | 21:53 |
| harshit_ | n4nd0, Did no programming at all for last 5 days :( feels as if I am disconnected from the shogun world,lol | 21:54 |
| n4nd0 | haha not good | 21:55 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: it looks like my defensive speech on databases make you a little quiet :D | 22:01 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: :P yeah I don't complain about it any more | 22:01 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, hey. do you want to solve some optics problems for me? :] | 22:22 |
| n4nd0 | :D | 22:22 |
| blackburn_ | gsomix: yes of course | 22:22 |
| blackburn_ | I like optics pretty much | 22:22 |
| blackburn_ | that's my favourite area | 22:23 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, orly? | 22:23 |
| gsomix | lol | 22:23 |
| blackburn_ | oh I like it so much | 22:23 |
| blackburn_ | gsomix: do you really think I understand anything? | 22:26 |
| blackburn_ | I hardly passed exam I'd say | 22:26 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: I think you forgot to set your *ironic* flag :P | 22:26 |
| blackburn_ | n4nd0: irc doesn't support this yet :D | 22:26 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, yes! I think you have solved all problems from Irodov. :] | 22:27 |
| gsomix | hehe, blackburn_ optics is pass/fail exam? | 22:28 |
| blackburn_ | gsomix: yes | 22:28 |
| gsomix | ok | 22:30 |
| gsomix | I have mechanics, computer networks and linux programming as pass/fail exams. | 22:31 |
| n4nd0 | linux programming, that looks like a cool course | 22:33 |
| gsomix | I don't think so | 22:33 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: really? The name looks promising :)= | 22:37 |
| gsomix | this course is about files (open, r/w, chmod) and inter-process communication: pipes, shared memory. | 22:37 |
| gsomix | it's a good stuff | 22:37 |
| gsomix | but course is boring | 22:37 |
| n4nd0 | it looks like my operative systems course | 22:38 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: do you know what is the worst part of that course in my university? We have to do it in Plan 9 | 22:38 |
| gsomix | n4nd0, wow, why? | 22:39 |
| blackburn_ | my memory is strange sometimes - I associate plan 9 with 'gayniggers from the outer space' | 22:40 |
| * gsomix thinks, that glenda is nya-nya-nya ^__^ | 22:40 | |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: the teacher's answer is that it's because linux man pages are unreadable and senseless stuff like that | 22:40 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: from my point of view, the reason is that they make research using that OS | 22:40 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn_: yeah, I think the name comes from a film named like that | 22:40 |
| blackburn_ | not really like that | 22:41 |
| blackburn_ | but the original one right? | 22:41 |
| n4nd0 | yes | 22:41 |
| blackburn_ | something from the outer space | 22:41 |
| blackburn_ | I do notremember exactly | 22:41 |
| blackburn_ | but gayniggers is actually way more funnier | 22:41 |
| n4nd0 | haha | 22:41 |
| gsomix | blackburn_, I have not watched this movie yet. :( | 22:42 |
| blackburn_ | your life is meanless thing then | 22:42 |
| n4nd0 | two people with meaningless lives then here :D | 22:43 |
| n4nd0 | ah and another thing that made me laugh a lot | 22:43 |
| gsomix | n4nd0, huh. it could be minix, for example :) | 22:43 |
| n4nd0 | they told me yes but with acme (one of plan 9's editor) | 22:44 |
| n4nd0 | you can go pretty fast using the mouse and the chords | 22:44 |
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| n4nd0 | and I was like wtf ... I try to minimize the # times I move my hands from the initial position on the keyboard | 22:45 |
| n4nd0 | and you telling me this ... | 22:45 |
| gsomix | n4nd0, nice course :] | 22:48 |
| n4nd0 | gsomix: I like it quite a lot, the only part I don't like that much is Plan 9, but is ok | 22:48 |
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| puffin444 | woah hey | 23:04 |
| puffin444 | Forgot I was IRC | 23:04 |
| puffin444 | on IRC | 23:04 |
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