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| SeattleDad | I'm trying to install shogun for lua on Mac OSX | 05:29 |
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| SeattleDad | I'm getting a problem when I do make install | 05:30 |
| SeattleDad | It says: | 05:30 |
| SeattleDad | install -m755 modshogun.dylib "//usr/local/lib/lua/5.1" | 05:30 |
| SeattleDad | and then I get | 05:30 |
| SeattleDad | install: modshogun.dylib: No such file or directory | 05:30 |
| SeattleDad | I don't see this modshogun.dylib anywhere | 05:31 |
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| gsomix | hi all | 08:18 |
| @sonney2k | SeattleDad, which version of shogun? | 08:22 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rf46645d / (3 files in 2 dirs): fix a few crashers related to sgvector transition - http://git.io/6H4MqA | 08:36 |
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| wiking | mornin' | 09:01 |
| sonne|work | ~~~~...has broken~~~like~~~~ooo | 09:02 |
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| gsomix | morning :) | 09:05 |
| wiking | sonne|work: what happened? | 09:08 |
| sonne|work | wiking: I am singing | 09:09 |
| sonne|work | guess that must be some lack of sleep thing | 09:09 |
| wiking | ahahahah :D | 09:09 |
| wiking | yeah that usually is a good indicator | 09:09 |
| gsomix | it's time to compile deadbeef player. I need music. | 09:10 |
| gsomix | sonne|work, how are you? | 09:10 |
| sonne|work | tired | 09:13 |
| sonne|work | but sgvector is making good progress | 09:13 |
| sonne|work | I am very happy with the result | 09:13 |
| sonne|work | it is soooooo much easier to use | 09:13 |
| sonne|work | wish we had that w/ other SGObjects | 09:15 |
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| sonne|work | karlnapf: hey | 09:17 |
| karlnapf | hi | 09:17 |
| sonne|work | karlnapf: I was fixing a few sgvector related things in modelselection/xval | 09:17 |
| sonne|work | and I stumbled across your hack | 09:17 |
| karlnapf | sonney2k, which one? :) | 09:17 |
| sonne|work | SGVector<char> m_dontremember; | 09:17 |
| karlnapf | oh year, that wasnt actually mine | 09:18 |
| sonne|work | where you then later assign m_donot.vector / vlen | 09:18 |
| karlnapf | somebody inserted that | 09:18 |
| sonne|work | haha me then :D | 09:18 |
| karlnapf | however | 09:18 |
| karlnapf | lol :) | 09:18 |
| sonne|work | problem is that it really needs careful workarounds to work well with the new stuff | 09:18 |
| sonne|work | -> not nice | 09:18 |
| karlnapf | ok, but this is avoidable isnt it? | 09:19 |
| sonne|work | karlnapf: actually I remember you used SGVector<void> ! | 09:19 |
| karlnapf | lol, yes even worse ;) | 09:19 |
| sonne|work | yeah it should be | 09:19 |
| sonne|work | maybe you have an idea if you look at it | 09:19 |
| karlnapf | ok Ill check | 09:19 |
| sonne|work | sgvector fixes are relatively simple | 09:19 |
| karlnapf | have you seen the email about appended features for group lasso? | 09:20 |
| sonne|work | usually related to some additional SG_FREE(v.vector) | 09:20 |
| sonne|work | etc | 09:20 |
| sonne|work | didn't have time for that yet | 09:20 |
| karlnapf | kk | 09:20 |
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| karlnapf | The term "features" might be a fit fuzzy there, but maybe its worth investing some more time into the appended features | 09:21 |
| blackburn | hey there | 09:21 |
| karlnapf | good morning honey :) | 09:21 |
| blackburn | karlnapf: oh our relationship have got some progress this night I guess :D | 09:22 |
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| sonne|work | karlnapf: dont' get in my way - I am already engaged with blackburn! | 09:23 |
| karlnapf | :D I always knew that will happen | 09:23 |
| karlnapf | sonne|work, you arent a liberal person! ;) | 09:23 |
| blackburn | double gay marriage hmm too liberal for any EU country I'd say | 09:24 |
| blackburn | Log Message: ----------- move next release date to ~september'12 | 09:24 |
| blackburn | sonne|work: hah | 09:24 |
| blackburn | I hope september would be enough | 09:24 |
| sonne|work | why not? | 09:26 |
| blackburn | sonne|work: yes would be great release | 09:28 |
| blackburn | sonne|work: however 2.0 is the version I think :D | 09:28 |
| karlnapf | guys, I will be off for some studying, be back later this afternoon/evening, have a good day | 09:29 |
| blackburn | karlnapf: enjoy your study time ;) | 09:30 |
| karlnapf | thx :) | 09:31 |
| gsomix | blackburn, h | 09:35 |
| blackburn | gsomix: hhhhhhh | 09:35 |
| blackburn | sonne|work: it looks like cheng suggests to construct multiple features for group LASSOs | 09:42 |
| blackburn | it contradicts with my approach pretty much | 09:42 |
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| sonne|work | blackburn: it is like mkl........ | 09:43 |
| blackburn | sonne|work: yeah today everything is like mkl :) | 09:44 |
| blackburn | but still - what do you prefer? | 09:44 |
| blackburn | to use any structures like task/features relations in machines | 09:45 |
| sonne|work | if you have multiple sets of features it is mkl | 09:45 |
| sonne|work | group lasso | 09:45 |
| sonne|work | or whatever name you give it | 09:45 |
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| eric___ | hi all | 09:45 |
| sonne|work | (and learn group feature weights...) | 09:45 |
| sonne|work | hi | 09:45 |
| blackburn | sonne|work: no in group lasso you just use this relations - not learning weight afaik | 09:46 |
| blackburn | sonne|work: actually it is a little bit crazy - you can group outputs, features and tasks | 09:48 |
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| gsomix | yeah, it's work. I have music | 10:18 |
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| * blackburn is getting nervous | 14:52 | |
| eric___ | wiking: hi again, yesterday you said your paper was accepted ? Which conf ? | 14:55 |
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| sonne|work | blackburn: why? | 16:26 |
| sonne|work | ahh | 16:26 |
| sonne|work | I guess I know :D | 16:26 |
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| eric___ | what is the syntax for loading svm file for initialize CLibSVMMultiClass ? | 16:44 |
| eric___ | CLibSVMMultiClass svm; svm.load(svm_file); give me "No kernel init" | 16:44 |
| eric___ | I my trained svm file I have however in the first lines %MultiClassSVM multiclass_type=1; num_classes=10; num_svms=45; kernel='GaussianKernel'; | 16:46 |
| eric___ | somone here ? | 16:52 |
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| eric___ | ping | 16:57 |
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| eric___ | allo ? | 16:58 |
| gsomix | eric___, pong | 16:58 |
| eric___ | gsomix: :p | 16:58 |
| eric___ | gsomix: are you aware of pb reading multiC svm file ? | 16:58 |
| gsomix | eric___, no, hehe. just try to wait for sonney2k or sonne|work | 16:59 |
| sonne|work | eric___: don't use load/save | 17:04 |
| sonne|work | eric___: have a look at the *serialization* examples on how to save things | 17:05 |
| eric___ | sonne|work: tx | 17:11 |
| pluskid | how's the sgvector hell? | 17:29 |
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| pluskid | sonne|work: just made a very brief scan of the current SGVector.h, and find two suggestions here | 17:30 |
| pluskid | 1. operator=, I think the correct semantic for operator= is first to unref() what current holding and then ref() what is assigned new | 17:30 |
| pluskid | 2. I think clone() method isn't properly implemented: the memory is allocated but no ref-counting is setup, I think the memory allocated here will never be freed, because unref() just returns without freeing the memory when it find m_refcount == NULL | 17:32 |
| pluskid | and the destructor do nothing more than calling unref() | 17:32 |
| sonne|work | pluskid: things are improving :) | 17:33 |
| sonne|work | not too bad | 17:33 |
| sonne|work | pluskid: why the operator= stuff? I mean we don't need to unref since the object is on stack | 17:34 |
| pluskid | sonne|work: unref maintains the memory (the "vector" member variable), not the object :) | 17:35 |
| sonne|work | clone is not yet done :) | 17:35 |
| pluskid | operator= means the object already exist | 17:35 |
| sonne|work | and the destructor should just do unref no more | 17:35 |
| pluskid | and you want to assign it to something else | 17:35 |
| pluskid | no, the semantic is this: | 17:36 |
| sonne|work | pluskid: clone is for getting a copy of sgvector (including the memory block) | 17:36 |
| pluskid | SGVector<int> v1 = ... | 17:36 |
| sonne|work | so it is different from copy constructor, assignment operator | 17:36 |
| pluskid | v1 = SGVector<int>(...) | 17:36 |
| pluskid | then operator= will be called | 17:36 |
| pluskid | so here we need to unref what v1 is already holding, and then ref what is newly assigned | 17:37 |
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| pluskid | sonne|work: about the clone, I'm concerning the newly allocated memory will never be freed, unless you do explicit SG_FREE(v.vector) somewhere | 17:38 |
| pluskid | the current implementation of clone | 17:38 |
| sonne|work | clone is not yet implemented | 17:38 |
| pluskid | oh, OK | 17:39 |
| sonne|work | clone would be | 17:39 |
| sonne|work | return SGVector<T>(clone_vector(vector, vlen), vlen); | 17:39 |
| sonne|work | no more than that | 17:39 |
| pluskid | hmm, true | 17:40 |
| sonne|work | pluskid, regarding what you said above | 17:40 |
| sonne|work | no one thing is copy constructor | 17:41 |
| sonne|work | and the other is assignment operator | 17:41 |
| sonne|work | things won't be done twice | 17:41 |
| pluskid | copy constructor is totally different from operator= | 17:41 |
| sonne|work | yes | 17:41 |
| pluskid | and I think in operator= we need to release previous resource before accepting the new resource | 17:42 |
| sonne|work | why that? | 17:42 |
| sonne|work | the previous thing will still remain | 17:42 |
| sonne|work | if you have | 17:42 |
| sonne|work | SGVector x; | 17:42 |
| sonne|work | SGVector y; | 17:43 |
| sonne|work | and you do x=y | 17:43 |
| sonne|work | x will be killed | 17:43 |
| sonne|work | and y and x will hold the thing | 17:43 |
| sonne|work | so only when y & x are destroyed should refcount be equal to zero | 17:44 |
| pluskid | no, in our current implementation: x and y will hold the thing but the previous content of x will lost | 17:44 |
| sonne|work | ahh now I understand | 17:44 |
| pluskid | cool! | 17:44 |
| sonne|work | so I should just call unref() in operator= as first line and all good right? | 17:45 |
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| pluskid | yes, I think so | 17:45 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r4aafbd1 / src/shogun/lib/SGVector.h : fix assignment operator of SGVector and its clone method - http://git.io/BqsF6Q | 17:46 |
| pluskid | have to sleep now, hope we fix all errors with migrating SGVector soon! :D | 17:46 |
| pluskid | good night | 17:46 |
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| blackburn | oh I just noticed version is 2.0, sonney2k | 21:42 |
| blackburn | okay let me try to fix something | 21:43 |
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| @sonney2k | ? | 21:51 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I didn't noticed before that you changed next version | 21:51 |
| @sonney2k | we are changing too much to no justify a 2.0 release ... | 21:51 |
| @sonney2k | s/no/not | 21:51 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I agree totally | 21:52 |
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| blackburn | n4nd0: hey | 21:53 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: hey there! | 21:54 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: how are you? | 21:54 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: do you feel yourself as linus when you do merges all day long? | 21:55 |
| blackburn | I do ;) | 21:55 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * r43208fe / src/interfaces/modular/Classifier.i : Added python_modular interface for ECOC Random Coding. - http://git.io/Nv_XEA | 21:56 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * r64efd80 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Added ECOC Random modular interface and a simple python example. - http://git.io/3DFjrA | 21:56 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r25427d4 / (3 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'multiclass-ecoc' of git://github.com/pluskid/shogun - http://git.io/fcTLhA | 21:56 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Evgeniy Andreev master * r5427a46 / (6 files): removed load/save methods - http://git.io/YrRLlw | 21:57 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * re0cb338 / (6 files): Merge branch 'save_load_Machines' of git://github.com/gsomix/shogun - http://git.io/aGIY7g | 21:57 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: I am fine, what about you? | 21:57 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: oh I've been trying to leave job whole week :D | 21:58 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: oh, is it difficult? | 21:58 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: yes because of my instability :D | 21:58 |
| blackburn | they suggested to think about long break (3 months) and I promised to think about it | 21:59 |
| blackburn | two times damn | 21:59 |
| n4nd0 | I see | 22:00 |
| @sonney2k | haha | 22:00 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, is on the 'wanted' list :D | 22:00 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, how is our exam preparation going? | 22:00 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: that OSS shit is so difficult to grasp they want to keep every man that understand anything in it | 22:01 |
| blackburn | I wouldn't say I'm useful there | 22:01 |
| blackburn | however I will not work this summer for sure | 22:02 |
| blackburn | shit | 22:02 |
| blackburn | I should checked compilation | 22:02 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: could you please open ui/GUIClassifier.cpp:840? | 22:03 |
| blackburn | what should be there instead of load? | 22:03 |
| blackburn | save_serializable? | 22:04 |
| blackburn | load* | 22:04 |
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| blackburn | ascii I guess? | 22:05 |
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| n4nd0 | sorry guys, my internet sucks so bad ... | 22:06 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, too bad yo miss all the jokes we make about you :P | 22:06 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: the preparation for the exam is going somewhat good, thanks! | 22:06 |
| n4nd0 | haha I am lucky that there are logs! | 22:07 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, we don't have any other choice | 22:07 |
| @sonney2k | I have to get inside... | 22:07 |
| @sonney2k | it is getting cold | 22:07 |
| @sonney2k | but today is full moon here | 22:07 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: oh I shouldn't tell anyone how did I parse 'sucks so bad' | 22:07 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: is it 'yes'? | 22:08 |
| @sonney2k | looks pretty cool :) | 22:08 |
| @sonney2k | yes | 22:08 |
| blackburn | ok I'll patch | 22:08 |
| n4nd0 | it is rainining all the days in Spain since I came ... I cannot believe this :( | 22:08 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #820 of libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/libshogun/builds/820 blamelist: blackburn91@gmail.com, gsomix@gmail.com | 22:09 |
| blackburn | shogun-buildbot: do not blame me bastard | 22:09 |
| blackburn | :D | 22:09 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: I checked before the work that Nico has started | 22:10 |
| n4nd0 | I like it :) | 22:10 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: what is it? | 22:10 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: have you ever seen 'explicit' keyword in C++? | 22:11 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: a short document with some notes about SO and some code in gist | 22:11 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: I think I have yes | 22:11 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: wow that should help you | 22:12 |
| n4nd0 | yeah! | 22:12 |
| n4nd0 | I'm looking forward to start devoting my time to the project!! | 22:12 |
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| blackburn | n4nd0: 2 days I guess? | 22:13 |
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| n4nd0 | more or less | 22:14 |
| n4nd0 | 2 days for the exam (not counting today) | 22:14 |
| n4nd0 | Tuesday back to Sweden, and voila! | 22:15 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, will you stay in sweden afterwards? | 22:16 |
| n4nd0 | yes :D | 22:16 |
| n4nd0 | it's my home | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, so you are connected again :) | 22:16 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: are you going to pursuit phd? | 22:16 |
| n4nd0 | haha yes | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | but actually w/o internet it is good to focus :) | 22:17 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: sure | 22:17 |
| blackburn | yeah sonney2k | 22:17 |
| blackburn | really good to focus | 22:17 |
| * sonney2k is being distracted by something called chat | 22:17 | |
| blackburn | I'll visit dacha this summer to focus :D | 22:17 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: hopefully I'll be able to start by Fall 2013 | 22:17 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: and you? | 22:17 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: I am thinking about foreign phd.. | 22:18 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, as long as you use shogun you will succeed :D | 22:18 |
| blackburn | Fall 2014 for me | 22:18 |
| @sonney2k | you know it has been written by the brightest minds of this century :D | 22:18 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: once we have HM-SVM I want to try for a game we did it in a course! | 22:19 |
| n4nd0 | I wonder whether it would work or not | 22:19 |
| @sonney2k | there are many nice applications... | 22:19 |
| CIA-113 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * rc688796 / src/shogun/ui/GUIClassifier.cpp : Hopefully fixes static serialization - http://git.io/ydAOqQ | 22:20 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: my chef said it is ok I do opensource - 'who knows you may become a millionaire because of it' :D | 22:21 |
| blackburn | sounds like a plan isn't it? | 22:21 |
| n4nd0 | :D | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | you mean like bill gates ::D | 22:22 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: things have actually changed and good small idea can impact too I think | 22:23 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: sonney2k: can you believe 20-30% of people here participate in a financial pyramid scheme? | 22:24 |
| * n4nd0 is reading pyramid scheme's article in wikipedia | 22:25 | |
| shogun-buildbot | build #821 of libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/libshogun/builds/821 | 22:25 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: like you involve people that pay you to be in a pyramid | 22:26 |
| n4nd0 | it sounds like kind of fraud | 22:26 |
| n4nd0 | am I wrong? | 22:26 |
| blackburn | and they involve others | 22:26 |
| blackburn | so money is going from the bottom throught to the top :D | 22:26 |
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| blackburn | n4nd0: yes it is illegal in *NORMAL* countries | 22:26 |
| n4nd0 | you should come to Sweden | 22:27 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: should be kind of normal country right? ;) | 22:30 |
| n4nd0 | I think it is a very good country | 22:30 |
| n4nd0 | the only con is the lack of light during winter | 22:31 |
| n4nd0 | too bad | 22:31 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: hmm I am curious what are opportunities that would fit to me? | 22:31 |
| blackburn | do they provide some stipend for phds? | 22:31 |
| blackburn | I am not a millionaire yet :D | 22:32 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: stipends? no no | 22:32 |
| n4nd0 | in Sweden it is like a job | 22:32 |
| blackburn | n4nd0: what is salary? | 22:32 |
| blackburn | average ;) | 22:32 |
| n4nd0 | http://www.csc.kth.se/student/doktorandrad/doktorandstegen/ | 22:33 |
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| blackburn | see you tomorrow (expect a lot commits from me ;) | 23:23 |
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| n4nd0 | good night people | 23:49 |
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