IRC logs of #shogun for Saturday, 2012-07-07

--- Log opened Sat Jul 07 00:00:17 2012
wikingit wasn't like this00:00
wikingbut now after my rebase suddenly it is00:00
@sonney2kwiking, actually there are two methods to get the size: one is the real but *internal* size00:00
wikingi'm strictly talking about get_num_elements00:01
@sonney2kand the other is the currently used size (which is to be used)00:01
wikingi've seen that there's another api for it00:01
wikingi'm guessing get_num_elements is the currently used size?00:01
@sonney2kwiking, I think it is correct *now*00:01
wikingok00:02
@sonney2khmmhh00:02
@sonney2knot 100% sure00:02
gsomix there are get_num_elements and get_array_size00:03
@sonney2kgsomix, yeah but what he does is (I guess) call CDynamicObjectArray(10)00:03
wikingyep00:03
@sonney2ktaht should create an array of size 1000:03
@sonney2kgranularity doesn't matter here00:04
wikingand if i do: CDynamicObjectArray w (10); w->get_num_elements ();00:04
wikingi'll get 000:04
@sonney2kso I think get_num_elements should return 10 ?00:04
wikingatm it works like this00:04
gsomixtry get_array_size00:04
@sonney2kgsomix, but that is the wrong function00:04
gsomixbecause CDynamicObjectArray(10) set resize_granularity00:04
@sonney2kbut maybe it returns 0 too00:04
@sonney2kgsomix, where does it do this?00:05
@sonney2k(I cannot see it)00:05
wikingok i'll check it now00:05
@sonney2kgsomix, ahh in the m_array call00:06
wiking[DEBUG] size of obj array: 77 0^C00:07
@sonney2kgsomix, I just checked - indeed it just sets resize granularity00:07
wiking  SG_DEBUG ("size of obj array: %d %d", m_samples->get_array_size (), m_samples->get_num_elements ());00:07
wikingfor this00:07
@sonney2knot the size of the array00:07
wikinggsomix: ^ so get_array_size works00:08
gsomixsonney2k, hey no00:08
gsomixnum_elements=p_resize_granularity;00:08
gsomixlast_element_idx=-1;00:08
@sonney2kgsomix, I meant only granularity00:08
@sonney2kit sets only granularity00:08
@sonney2knever the last element00:08
@sonney2kwiking, so it is not what you want here!00:08
gsomixsonney2k, yes. for getting full size I add get_array_size00:09
wikingok00:09
wikingi see now i've changed everything to get_array_size00:09
gsomixbtw it's documented00:09
@sonney2kgsomix, shouldn't wiking call get_dim1() ?00:09
blackburnsonney2k: do you know any convenient way to get randomly sample training and test indices in python?00:10
@sonney2kI think that is what he wants if this array is not resized00:10
gsomixsonney2k, mmm, it works too, because ndims is stored00:10
@sonney2kblackburn, randperm?00:10
blackburnsonney2k: no I need a set of training indexes and test ones too00:10
gsomix*are stored00:11
@sonney2kpermutation(10)00:11
@sonney2ka=permutation(10)00:11
blackburnah00:11
@sonney2ktr_idx=a[:5]00:11
blackburnpermute and cut?00:11
@sonney2kte_idx=a[5:]00:11
blackburncool00:11
blackburnthanks00:11
@sonney2kshogun-buildbot, status00:11
shogun-buildbotcyg1 - libshogun: idle00:11
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shogun-buildbotdeb3 - modular_interfaces: idle, last build 54m42s ago: failed test python_modular00:11
shogun-buildbotnightly_all: idle, last build 20h19m23s ago: build successful00:11
shogun-buildbotnightly_default: idle, last build 20h33m14s ago: build successful00:11
shogun-buildbotnightly_none: idle, last build 20h21m14s ago: build successful00:11
@sonney2kshogun-buildbot, force build "cyg1 - libshogun"00:12
shogun-buildbotbuild #0 of cyg1 - libshogun started, including []00:12
shogun-buildbotbuild #0 forced00:12
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes00:12
@sonney2kkaramba00:12
gsomixsonney2k, dynarray and array1/2/3 had different interfaces... I got the smallest patches. :(00:13
gsomix*changes00:13
@sonney2kgsomix, yeah you are right - one was basically fixed size00:14
@sonney2kdynarray's size can change00:14
@sonney2kand then things like dim1 ... dim3 don't make sense00:14
@sonney2kohh damn personal firewalls...00:15
@sonney2kHow is one supposed to add exceptions on a *buildslave*00:16
gsomixgood night guys00:18
@sonney2k180M and cloning...00:19
@sonney2kgsomix, nite and sweet python buffer dreams :D00:19
gsomixhuh, dreams w/o copying00:19
@sonney2khehe00:20
@sonney2kno overhead in dreams please!00:20
@sonney2kblackburn, look at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/waterfall00:20
@sonney2kcyg1 is progressing...00:21
blackburnheh00:21
@sonney2kwiking, you don't happen to have some spare osx machines?00:21
@sonney2kmaybe I should ask gunnar...00:21
wikingsonney2k: here00:22
wikingsitting on it00:22
wikingu need for buildbot?00:22
shogun-buildbotbuild #0 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/000:23
@sonney2kbahh00:23
@sonney2kfail you!00:23
@sonney2kthe usual path problem00:24
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@sonney2kshogun-buildbot, force build "cyg1 - libshogun"00:26
shogun-buildbotbuild #1 of cyg1 - libshogun started, including []00:26
shogun-buildbotbuild #1 forced00:26
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes00:26
wikingsonney2k: ?00:26
@sonney2kwiking, yeah otherwise we will never realize that we cause osx failures00:27
@sonney2kwiking, hardcore admin action going on behind the curtains :D00:27
wikingok00:27
wikingwhat do u need00:28
wikingand i'll get it installed on that machine00:28
@sonney2kwiking, shogun build dependencies and buildslave from buildbot.net00:28
wikingok00:29
@sonney2kbut it will build often...00:29
wikingno worries00:29
@sonney2kok00:29
wikingit's a quite good mac00:29
wikingso it can take it00:29
@sonney2kthats what you say now00:29
@sonney2kit will build every commit...00:29
wikingheheh yeah00:30
wikingbut that's ok00:30
@sonney2kfor all interfaces...00:30
@sonney2kok then :D00:30
wikingjust let me find the person who can give me sudo on the machine00:30
@sonney2kgood 100% load on the windows machine00:30
wikingthere's no parallel build or?00:30
wikingso afais it'll just use one core00:31
@sonney2kI can disable the parallel build...00:31
@sonney2k(the linux machine uses 4 cores)00:31
wikingok00:31
wikingany objections for adding virtual float64_t compute_primal_objective () const function to CLinearMachine? with default SG_NOTIMPLEMENTED by default?00:33
shogun-buildbotbuild #1 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/100:36
@sonney2kfeel free00:41
wikingPR00:42
wikinged00:42
blackburnHOG_SIZE 1488 :D00:43
wikingblackburn: came from the example...00:43
wikingbut yeah start flaming00:43
blackburnnice we have something from your project now00:44
wikingwell if u pull this00:45
wikingthen i can push the rest00:45
blackburnsonney2k: I'll let you take care of this ;)00:45
blackburnwiking: do you use precomputed hogs out there?00:46
wikingblackburn: yep00:46
@sonney2kwiking, well I can only check this superficially not whether it works01:11
@sonney2kso huge patch01:11
@sonney2kwhat is really missing is some kind of standalone example01:11
@sonney2kwiking, anyways from my side mostly only some minor reformatting comments01:12
@sonney2kso alexlovesdata, blackburn have a look too :)01:12
@sonney2kwiking, my suggestion is you fix these issues and then I merge :D01:12
@sonney2k(ahh and you told me about the function ptrs so I didn't complain here waiting for the updated patch :)01:13
blackburnsonney2k: sure just after calendas graecas ;)01:13
wikingsonney2k:01:14
wikingi always did foo () instead of foo()01:14
wikingsee my prev patches01:14
@sonney2kwell please do foo()01:14
wikingsonney2k: onces this pulled i can poor in the rest of the patches01:14
wikingi just thought i dont want it in on pull01:14
wikingi mean you dont want that01:15
wiking:P01:15
@sonney2kyeah it is big enough already01:15
wikingbtw01:15
wikingis there a reason why u dont want dynamic_cast ?01:15
wikingi mean can i at least do that in obtain_from_generic ?01:15
@sonney2kI guess grepping for '[a-zA-Z]* (' will find it01:15
@sonney2kwiking, you know the type so no need to use it01:16
wikingokey01:16
@sonney2k(there is an enum already)01:16
@sonney2kmy comment was only concerned that you don't need to do type checking all the time if it is in some extra function - though in this case no dynamic cast is needed01:17
@sonney2khmmhh thunderstorm arrives in berlin in the morning http://www.wetteronline.de/radarprognose.htm01:17
@sonney2klet me better sleep now01:17
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* sonney2k ZZZZzzzz....01:21
* wiking away now... pushed the commits for the requested changes02:10
alexlovesdataI will check this on monday02:22
alexlovesdataok ?02:23
alexlovesdataneed to sleep now ...02:23
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puffin444Hey sonney2k, I know you're probably not awake, but I fixed those memory errors.05:00
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gsomixgood morning09:26
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gsomixn4nd0, hey, how are you?11:08
n4nd0hey gsomix! I am fine, what about you?11:08
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n4nd0gsomix: sorry my internet died11:26
gsomixn4nd0, and my :)11:28
gsomixI'm fine. doing some experiments with python api11:29
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n4nd0gsomix: cool, what are you preparing now?11:32
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gsomixn4nd0, python buffer and sequence protocols. e.g. for features+numpy.array, sliceing and working with numpy w/o memory copying11:39
n4nd0gsomix: ok, have fun with it then :)11:40
gsomixhuh :)11:41
n4nd0gsomix: are you working with more director classes?11:41
gsomixn4nd0, later11:45
wikingn4nd0: can we talk in 30 mins?11:47
n4nd0wiking: yeah11:48
wikingcooll thnx brb11:49
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bern4rdhi guys12:21
n4nd0what's up bern4rd12:23
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bern4rdhey n4nd012:27
@sonney2kthunderstorm time again!12:33
n4nd0hey sonney2k, I think bern4rd wants to have more info about the news parser12:33
n4nd0bern4rd: right?12:33
bern4rdyes yes12:33
@sonney2kbern4rd, I will put all the NEWS files into a folder hierarchy12:34
@sonney2kso we could render the latest releases from that by recursively traversing directory trees12:34
@sonney2kand accessing all the NEWS files from there12:35
n4nd0recursion is cool12:35
@sonney2k?12:35
@sonney2kbern4rd, actually I have some code for that (the NEWS on the website is automatically created from the latest NEWS file)12:36
@sonney2kbern4rd, if you have an email address I will send it to you12:36
bern4rdok, i think i understand, but the old news dont change, so I can store them in the database and there is no need to parse them again right?12:36
@sonney2ktrue12:36
bern4rdbernard.hernandez.perez@gmail.com12:36
@sonney2kbern4rd, but how do you figure out when a new NEWS file is uploaded?12:37
wikingsonney2k: what about for and while is it for () and while () or the normal function call foo()?12:40
@sonney2kfor ()12:40
@sonney2kwhile ()12:40
wikingok12:41
@sonney2konly function()12:41
wikingthen i'll make the regexp now12:41
@sonney2kwiking, that is how one can easily distinguish a function from a if/for/while clause12:41
bern4rdI suppose as they are files the have a field "last date modified", so storing in the database together with the new the date of parsing you could check it.12:45
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bern4rdbut you need recursivity anyway12:47
@sonney2kblackburn, please merge wikings' patch once he has resolved the whitspace/indention issues12:48
@sonney2kpluskid, have you seen bern4rd's new shogun website? Since you have strong artistic skills - any ideas for a logo?12:49
wikingn4nd0: http://yuml.me/9c36be1b12:51
bern4rdin fact I havent modify the home page because the most of the things are pictures.12:51
wikingn4nd0: i want to talk about this first... ;)12:51
wikingoh actually even better: http://yuml.me/5655986812:53
n4nd0wiking: sorry, I was afk, let me see now12:58
wikingokok12:58
n4nd0ok, I see12:59
n4nd0wiking: there might be an issue, if CStructuredData and CLatentData are different things, what about the laten so-svm?13:01
n4nd0the same applies to CStructuredLabels and CLatentLabels13:01
wikingn4nd0: as far as i can see u use CStructuredData as a dummy object to be able to store any sorts of user defined structured label, right?13:03
n4nd0yes13:03
wikingyeah well same applies to CLatentData13:04
n4nd0ok13:05
wikingso that's why i'm saying here13:07
wikingthat maybe we could just merge the two13:08
wikingas it's for the same purpose13:08
n4nd0wiking: how do you suggest to merge them?13:08
wikingwell it's just a naming convention and that's it ;)13:09
n4nd0ok13:09
n4nd0so what do CLatentLabels have?13:09
wikingCLatentData13:09
wikingatm13:09
wikingsince it's a free form/user defined structure13:10
n4nd0could be that there is no need for them and you can just use CStructuredLabels?13:10
wikingwell the naming is very misleading imo13:10
n4nd0why? what would be better?13:10
wikingn4nd0: and actually no...13:10
wikingsince CLatentLabels->CBinaryLabels13:10
wikingand extended a bit13:11
n4nd0hhm ok13:11
n4nd0then13:11
n4nd0what about CLatentData?13:12
n4nd0what does it have that makes it different?13:12
wikingthat13:12
wikingnothing13:12
wikingso i could use directly CStructuredData13:13
wikingjust that for me the name is misleading13:13
wikingthat's all13:13
n4nd0I was thinking of that yes13:13
n4nd0well ok ... but tell me why do you think so and maybe we can fix it13:13
wikingwell since it's used both in CLatentLabels and CLatentFeatures13:13
wikingand actually it has nothing to do with structured output ;)13:14
n4nd0but the name sayd nothing about structured output :)13:14
wikingyes but it's in it's name13:15
wikingthat it's Structured13:15
wiking;)13:15
n4nd0but not output ;)13:15
wikinglol13:15
wikingbut you get what i mean no/13:15
wiking?13:15
n4nd0you know CData would be a bit too general13:15
wikingwell i'd like that actually13:16
wiking;)13:16
wikingbrb13:16
wikinggotta get out for 5 mins sorry :(13:16
n4nd0I would be ok with CData too13:16
n4nd0so feel free to change it if you want and I will adapt my branch to it13:17
wikingok13:17
wikingthnx13:17
wikingthat sounds great13:17
wikingi'll do the changes.... and let u know13:17
n4nd0ok :)13:17
wikingbut a bit away now13:17
pluskidsonney2k: no, what's the url for the new site?13:18
n4nd0pluskid: I think it is not already up on the internet, but in bern4rd's github repo13:23
n4nd0maybe you can clone the repo and run it locally if you want to check it13:24
pluskidn4nd0: url to his repo?13:24
n4nd0bern4rd: ^?13:24
n4nd0I think it should be this on13:25
n4nd0github.com/bahp/shogun-web13:25
pluskidn4nd0: thanks!13:25
bern4rdhttps://github.com/bahp/shogun-web.git13:26
n4nd0pluskid: you are welcome13:26
pluskidbern4rd: how to run this? django?13:26
pluskidor any screenshot?13:26
@sonney2kpluskid, python manage.py runserver13:27
@sonney2kpluskid, then it will show the url on the cmdline13:27
pluskidsonney2k: OK, let me try13:28
pluskidsonney2k: why I just get something like a default template?13:30
bern4rdmaybe i have change something13:31
bern4rdone minute13:31
bern4rddid you get see anything?13:35
pluskidbern4rd: lots of13:35
pluskidbanner says "Say hello, new version is available"13:35
pluskidbut nothings seems to be related to shogun?13:35
pluskidLorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetur elite. Nulla adipising telus non massa vestibulum est ultrices ege ta este commodo cons.13:36
bern4rdthis is the home view, and all the things are pictures an i am not good with photoshop or similar software13:36
bern4rdbut go to about13:36
bern4rdor documentation13:36
bern4rdto see some contenct13:36
pluskidbern4rd: ah, got it13:36
bern4rdanyway there are only a few articles in the webpage, you can put localhost:port/admin/ and add/edit/remove articles13:37
pluskidok, thanks!13:38
pluskidI just want to look at how those pages looks like, in order to think about the logo13:38
bern4rdsure :)13:38
pluskidthough I haven't got any good idea bout the logo yet :-/13:39
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@sonney2kpluskid, well we just started so no rush here13:48
@sonney2kpluskid, actually bern4rd did all the work...13:48
pluskidsonney2k: OK13:48
pluskidcool work13:48
pluskidbyw, do you prefer complicated logo or more simple design?13:49
@sonney2kno idea13:49
pluskidanyway, let me keep this in my mind13:49
@sonney2kpluskid, if all else fails we use the kanjis again...13:50
pluskidsonney2k: haha, kanji looks cool actually13:50
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pluskidbut at least we might be able to choose some other font13:51
@sonney2kpluskid, well you could probably I cannot - a Japanese colleague was helping me here13:53
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pluskidsonney2k: that's what I mean :), I might be able to find some good looking fonts to try out13:54
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wikingsonney2k: around?15:29
wikingis there anything that has been ported from COFFIN into shogun?15:29
wikingah yeah15:31
wikingi've found15:31
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CIA-18shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * raa97093 / src/shogun/kernel/Kernel.cpp : added proper errors message if kernel has no features - http://git.io/T_Gn4w16:02
CIA-18shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r290672e / (3 files): loads of fixes and debug messages - http://git.io/eE0agw16:02
CIA-18shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r7051cc8 / src/shogun/statistics/IndependenceTestStatistic.h : removed copy paste error which caused a strange bug - http://git.io/tM9FvA16:02
CIA-18shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r377658c / examples/undocumented/libshogun/statistics_hsic.cpp : added test for hsic_gamma - http://git.io/e6OQqA16:02
CIA-18shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r05e12d2 / (6 files in 3 dirs): Merge pull request #627 from karlnapf/master - http://git.io/e4hXMA16:02
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puffin444Hey soeren, about the memory read errors on Pull Request 61517:22
puffin444*sonney2k17:22
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puffin444hello os25317:45
os253Hi puffin44417:45
os253Had a hard time connecting for some strange reason. Inventing yet another nickname helped :-)17:46
puffin444I see17:46
os253How are things?17:46
os253Hope no more encounters with unpleasant animals...17:47
puffin444They are progressing.The hash patch should be merged very soon making way for the gradient code.17:47
puffin444Yes. I sure hope so.17:47
os253Ok, sounds very good.17:48
puffin444I am a little disappointed by the amount of time needed to implement these kernel derivatives.17:48
puffin444I might have to double up to get back on schedule.17:48
os253Yes, it is cumbersome. Do you test the gradients standalone?17:48
puffin444No not yet.17:48
os253I'd recommend to use standalone grad checks for these.17:49
puffin444Okay, like tests in the examples folder?17:49
os253You can also "borrow" substantial proportions of code. The gplm stuff is efficiently done in principle17:49
os253But suffers from matlab constraints.17:49
puffin444Sure. The matlab code so far has been extremely helpful.17:50
os253The pygp thing I pointed you to earlier has reasonable readable gradients for most covariances needed, including sum/product.17:50
os253Ok...nit you are happy with thats also fine.17:50
os253*if17:50
os253Yes, I meant just checking the gradients for each kernel, including some unit tests.17:51
os253You can just calc (K(theta+delta)-K(theta-delta))/2 delta to estimate the gradient matrix.17:51
os253(assuming delta is a slight offset for *one* of the kernel parameters in theta.17:52
os253That matrix should be close to your analytical expressions. In my experience it is way easier to debug and test the ingredients separately.17:53
puffin444What about just comparing the results to GPML?17:53
puffin444Using the exact same inputs for the same kernels?17:53
puffin444For an examples/ test though it would make sense for an approximation comparision.17:54
os253That solution works of course, but will make it hard to ever invent new kernels...17:55
os253I think unit tests for the gradients are very useful and will safe you pain down the line.17:56
puffin444Good point17:56
os253Regarding the combination of kernels: I can see how that is difficult in the current setup with names.17:56
os253You could just create a mapping adding #kernelnumber_ as prefix to the respective parameter names.17:57
os253Is that your intention with the hash?17:57
os253Also: how does the existing multiple kernel code in shogun deals with this; is the combinator not used to update the parameters and this is done ma17:58
os253manually?17:58
puffin444The hash is actually used to check if any of the parameters have been changed. This way the GP/Inference Method needs only to update their matrices when something changes.17:58
os253Ok, so that's for caching - good.17:59
puffin444What I have right now (on my hard drive) for kernel derivatives is an extra dictionary that uses a parameter pointer as a key and the kernel pointer as the data17:59
puffin444So that I can automatically look up which parameter belongs to which kernel.18:00
os253Yes, that seems suitable. And what names are generating for them, in case you have two copies of the same kernel?18:00
puffin444They may have the same name, its the pointer to the kernel which differentiates them.18:02
os253And outside?the current interface for kernel parameters is make-based.18:03
os253*name-based18:03
puffin444The current interface is name-based. My new interface will be pointer based.18:03
os253You do this in addition or instead of names?18:04
puffin444The problem is that I can't manipulate parameter names much because the rest of the model selection depends on them for other things.18:04
puffin444In addition to. The pointer is used to resolve duplicates.18:04
os253Hm... The downside is that it will be hard for a user to manually inspect the current parameter settings.18:05
os253But perhaps that is ok, as on can always query the sub kernels which offer named access again.18:05
os253I guess it's fine actually.18:06
puffin444Keep in mind too that at least in GradientModelSelection there is a tree which contains all the parameters18:06
puffin444Printing out the tree reveals the values and what kernels they belong to.18:07
os253Yes, good point.18:08
os253Well, it sounds like it is pretty clear what to work on. Fingers crossed that the logistic changes can be resolved reasonably quickly.18:09
os253To come back to the points above: I ink grad check should be testable for each kernel.18:11
os253*think18:11
puffin444Yes. If all things go to plan I can catch up next week,18:11
os253If products and sums work the worst should be over.18:11
os253Perhaps we can catch up mid week or so?18:12
puffin444Yes18:12
puffin444What day/time would be good for you?18:13
os253I have virtually no constraints. We, same time as today for example?18:13
os253But we can setup sth. Short notice as well... I am generally around.18:14
puffin444Perhaps Tuesday/Wednesday?18:15
os253Both good. Perhaps just email what will be better depending in progress.18:17
os253I'll mark 3:30 UCT both days.18:17
puffin444ok18:18
os253Talk next week then.18:19
puffin444ok18:19
os253Cu18:20
puffin444See you later18:20
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puffin444sonney2k, about the question on the pull request18:21
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puffin444hey blackburn18:55
blackburnhey18:55
blackburnwhat's up?18:56
puffin444I have updated my pull request #615. Do you have the power to merge it?18:56
blackburnI am a superman ya ya ya18:57
puffin444blackburn, you are the one of the shogun deities18:58
blackburnpuffin444: here you goo19:01
CIA-18shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r9d82c0b / (30 files in 10 dirs): Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/puffin444/shogun (+8 more commits...) - http://git.io/ZstjGQ19:01
puffin444thanks blackburn19:01
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blackburnMERGE-O-RAMA19:04
puffin444Noooo! doggone it19:04
CIA-18shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * rd66fc4a / (3 files in 2 dirs): measure running time of each round in ShareBoost. - http://git.io/IY3NIQ19:04
CIA-18shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * r132f7bd / src/shogun/multiclass/ShareBoost.cpp : use shogun CTime to measure run-time. - http://git.io/Thmd7Q19:04
CIA-18shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * rf3e3c70 / src/shogun/multiclass/ShareBoost.cpp : better use of CTime - http://git.io/a9we5Q19:04
CIA-18shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * r658757d / src/shogun/multiclass/ShareBoost.cpp : remove unnecessary type casts. - http://git.io/cQiS_Q19:04
CIA-18shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r6af57ce / (3 files in 2 dirs): Merge branch 'multiclass' of git://github.com/pluskid/shogun - http://git.io/Flzqpw19:04
blackburnmergeality!19:04
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wikingwooooooooooooooooooooh19:05
wikingi've woken up ;)19:05
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puffin444Hey blackburn, what in the world would be causing these errors? It looks like it can't find certain files that I did not touch.19:06
CIA-18shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r25dc5ad / (6 files in 4 dirs): Updated feature block logit regression - http://git.io/Wmw10Q19:06
CIA-18shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r3717f65 / (6 files in 4 dirs): Merge branch 'slep' of git://github.com/lisitsyn/shogun - http://git.io/nWJOFg19:06
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blackburnpuffin444: nevermind, something related to sonney2k dirty deals19:07
puffin444oh okay :)19:07
blackburnok finally MERGEALITY19:07
CIA-18shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * rafbc2bc / (12 files in 5 dirs): Merge branch 'latent' of git://github.com/vigsterkr/shogun (+29 more commits...) - http://git.io/EcDWPg19:07
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wikingso is set ts=4 the default setting for everybody here? :)19:07
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blackburnwiking: yeah for me it is19:08
wikingpuffin444: ?19:08
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puffin444what's ts?19:08
wikingis there a way i can have ts=4 but displayed it as ts=2 ?:)19:09
blackburnhmm19:09
wikingas currently i'm tabstop=219:09
wikingsofttabstop=019:09
wikingshiftwidth=219:09
wikingand would like to keep it like this19:09
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blackburn 14 set tabstop=419:10
blackburn 15 set shiftwidth=419:10
blackburn 16 set listchars=tab:??19:10
blackburnI use that19:10
wikingmmhm19:10
wikingso yeah u use 4 instead of 219:10
wikingok i'll check vim wiki19:10
wikingmaybe there's a way around here19:11
puffin444hmm.... I better make sure that my tabstops are consistent.19:11
wikingbtw: my 1tb external drive just died today.. i've bought it 2.5 years ago BUT since it has 3 years warranty by the manufacturer, they'll replace it \o/ pretty cool19:12
blackburncool19:12
blackburnbut did you lost much data?19:12
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wikingthanks god i've already transferred everything on my new 2tb raid-1 backup drive couple of months ago... so i've just used this one as spare external drive19:13
blackburnpuffin444: argh your thing caused error I guess19:13
wikingsonney2k: freebsd build?19:13
blackburnpuffin444: modelselection_parameter_tree19:14
wikingsonney2k: i have a freebsd server in hetzner.de so i could set up a buildbot there for shogun19:14
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puffin444Hmm... This may be related to HashedWDFeatures. I need to talk to sonney2k about this.19:17
wikingmmm the succesfully built binary is not kept for download? at least 1/per day?19:18
blackburnwiking: nope19:19
blackburnHARDCORE19:19
wikingwell nightly build19:20
wikingas all other sw has, would be cool19:20
blackburnwiking: we actually wanted to set up .deb packaging here19:20
wikingnightly?19:20
wiking:D19:20
@sonney2kpuffin444, talk to me please :)19:20
blackburnI have no idea how is it going under mac os but would be nice to have some package too19:20
wikingblackburn: it's in mac.... macports19:21
blackburnwiking: why not?19:21
wikingyeah sounds cool19:21
@sonney2kwiking, well you need 3G of memory and all the shogun deps installed19:21
@sonney2kwiking, for freebsd bb19:21
wikingsonney2k: have 819:21
@sonney2kk19:21
@sonney2kyou spend quite a bit of $$ then right?19:22
wikingblackburn: Maintainers:          jameskyle@macports.org19:22
@sonney2keur €€€ :D19:22
wikingsonney2k: it was the 50euro/month option19:22
puffin444sonney2k, the new incremental hash function works slightly differently from the previous function. HashedWDFeatures used the incremental hash function.19:22
wikingsonney2k: but bought it like 2 years ago or so19:22
@sonney2ksounds like a good deal then19:22
puffin444And I updated that code. I may have not implemented it correctly.19:22
wikingsonney2k: i have it with a couple of friends of mine, and they are doing some hosting there, so it pays for itself19:22
@sonney2kwiking, the shogun toolbox server is hosted at ovh (~27 €/month), 4G, and some core 2 quad19:23
wikingsonney2k: oh that's nice!19:23
wikingsonney2k: so nightly builds for download? :19:23
@sonney2kwas also some offer19:23
wiking:)19:23
wikingblackburn: that's the guy who maintains shogun package for mac19:24
wikingblackburn: shogun @0.9.319:24
wikingblackburn: i might need to email him about not being up-to-date19:24
@sonney2kwiking, did you manage to adjust the tabs to ts=4 ?19:24
@sonney2kI mean with ts=2 it all must look weird?19:24
@sonney2kwiking, well...19:25
wikingsonney2k: i like ts=2... but i'm just checking if it's possible to visualize as ts=2 but actually write it as ts=419:25
wikingsonney2k: and then i'll send the patch19:25
@sonney2kwiking, the new one you mean?19:26
@sonney2kblackburn, already merged everything :D19:26
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wikingoh fuck19:27
wikingit's in? :)))19:27
wikingrotfl19:27
wikingok then i'll send a new PR soon19:27
* sonney2k check how it looks like19:27
@sonney2kwiking, you actually use spaces instead of tabs :/19:27
wikingsonney2k: yes19:28
@sonney2kwiking, so please correct to true tabs with ts=419:29
wikingok19:29
* wiking hates tabs :P19:29
@sonney2kwiking, ACTION?19:29
@sonney2kpuffin444, was the new incremental murmur hash giving same results as murmur?19:30
puffin444Yes. As long as the finalization function is called. I get the same final results in lib_hashing19:31
puffin444*llbrary_hash19:31
puffin444*library_hash19:31
puffin444can't type :)19:31
puffin444Do you know what the role of incremental hashing was in HashedWDFeatures?19:32
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@sonney2kpuffin444, yeah I wrote that code :D19:33
@sonney2kit just determines some index in a weight vector19:33
@sonney2kpuffin444, so when you now call the new hash function - it should be fine19:34
wikingsonney2k: action?19:34
shogun-buildbotbuild #84 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/84  blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, Chiyuan Zhang <pluskid@gmail.com>19:35
shogun-buildbotbuild #79 of deb1 - libshogun started, including [88be1739096e3c7b4d59e3465f97b5370bc16605, e3a2ac684df06fcfadc9162ec3dcaa82a7daa89e, 68378b41163d7f15eda0f6503fc44e8745e56de2, 091285be4c44dca5fa73020688cce8cd29c36cb8, a7f18bb90648e3d02e641475a71942db79e72484, a6a715cfe9151870d6b99974568d044f25773f04, 7ebe42224b08e5bddbee8e769fa57d28b5b49b63, 7b4eefd84de098993933f77f3c79850434d8a4a2, 33342d3614e403e89ff3e9010c44eb9f9d8078b6, df087f20783819a85ee0361c14544219:35
@sonney2kwiking, ahh it is some color probably?19:36
wikingohoooo this freebsd build starts nice: -bash: ./configure: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory19:36
@sonney2khaha19:37
wiking:D19:37
shogun-buildbotbuild #79 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/7919:37
shogun-buildbotbuild #86 of deb3 - modular_interfaces started, including [88be1739096e3c7b4d59e3465f97b5370bc16605, e3a2ac684df06fcfadc9162ec3dcaa82a7daa89e]19:37
shogun-buildbotbuild #6 of cyg1 - libshogun started, including [88be1739096e3c7b4d59e3465f97b5370bc16605, e3a2ac684df06fcfadc9162ec3dcaa82a7daa89e, 68378b41163d7f15eda0f6503fc44e8745e56de2, 091285be4c44dca5fa73020688cce8cd29c36cb8, a7f18bb90648e3d02e641475a71942db79e72484, a6a715cfe9151870d6b99974568d044f25773f04, 7ebe42224b08e5bddbee8e769fa57d28b5b49b63]19:37
wikingi guess there'll be some patches now from me for fbsd build19:37
@sonney2kpuffin444, so if it computes something with similar hash properties as before at least newly trained models will just be fine19:37
shogun-buildbotbuild #86 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile libshogun]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/86  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>19:37
shogun-buildbotbuild #87 of deb3 - modular_interfaces started, including [68378b41163d7f15eda0f6503fc44e8745e56de2, 091285be4c44dca5fa73020688cce8cd29c36cb8, a7f18bb90648e3d02e641475a71942db79e72484, a6a715cfe9151870d6b99974568d044f25773f04, 7ebe42224b08e5bddbee8e769fa57d28b5b49b63, 7b4eefd84de098993933f77f3c79850434d8a4a2, 33342d3614e403e89ff3e9010c44eb9f9d8078b6, df087f20783819a85ee0361c145442dd5e5825c7, a530bc94426ce4992103c6bc4dbd4615c0d00814, 20a604e44d5a472fdf13419:37
@sonney2khmmhh really not good - lots of commits that don't build are in here :/19:38
wikingsonney2k: great! i've got an email!19:38
wikingfrom the buildbot19:38
wikingsonney2k: aaaaaah... this is commit by commit right?19:39
@sonney2kwiking, yeah - you had some intermediate commits that just dont' compile19:39
@sonney2kyes19:39
wikingsonney2k: yeps....19:39
wikingthat's the before the merger commits19:39
@sonney2kthat is why the rule is to never commit sth (and pull request) that doesn't compile19:39
@sonney2kyeah19:39
@sonney2ktoo late now anyway19:40
@sonney2kgit commit --amend will work around this in future19:40
wikingsonney2k: mmmm let's check that command19:40
@sonney2kwoah, on cygwin libshogun builds already for 10 minutes19:41
@sonney2k(<1 minute under linux)19:41
wiking/usr/bin/env bash would work on linux right?19:42
@sonney2kwiking, yes19:43
wikingok19:43
wikingsonney2k: file-by-file PR or as a big one for the fbsd fixes?19:43
@sonney2kwiking, you can send one big PR but with several small commits please19:43
wikingsonney2k: ok19:43
@sonney2k(or when you are done with a couple of fixes and won't work on that for some time)19:44
shogun-buildbotbuild #6 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/6  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>19:45
shogun-buildbotbuild #7 of cyg1 - libshogun started, including [7b4eefd84de098993933f77f3c79850434d8a4a2, 33342d3614e403e89ff3e9010c44eb9f9d8078b6, df087f20783819a85ee0361c145442dd5e5825c7, a530bc94426ce4992103c6bc4dbd4615c0d00814, 20a604e44d5a472fdf134529c2c017a0da4a9be8, ec0ebffdea64b392c6c60c3d0ea5198c17e9f2f9, 89d1375604d87f75970aef1f6ea3bd5c06bc2178, 4dcd9db008d00d09abed04baaaa45f1f21b2f562, 6314a238ed474ee8b35630a58b05535051f172d0, 5b5ef0d83a5dc6ecead8bcd8573d25a19:45
wikingsonney2k: buildbot-slave shoudl be enough for me i guess19:47
@sonney2kI think we have no choice but to wait until the buildbot went to all of the builds...19:47
@sonney2kwiking, yes19:47
wikingatlas 3.8.4 should be good right?19:51
wikingor should i go with 3.9.1119:51
wiking?19:51
@sonney2kwiking, any blas/atlas/lapack will work - but fastest is usually that latest...19:53
wikingsonney2k: 3.9.11 seems like an experimental ports in fbsd so i stick with stable version of it19:54
@sonney2kwiking, COFFIN is what we call dotfeatures in shogun19:54
wikingsonney2k: yeah i was checking your supplementary material for that COFFIN paper19:55
wikingsonney2k: so then here's the question19:55
wikingsonney2k: having these very free form of features (CLatentFeatures)19:55
wikingfirst i went with CDotFeatures inheritance...19:56
wikingbut then there's no way one would be able to define all the dot* functions without knowing it's structure... (i mean the features itself)19:56
wikinglol gcc 4.6.4.2012060819:57
wikingthat's the dependency for atlas :)19:57
wikingthis will take a while19:57
shogun-buildbotbuild #87 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile csharp_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/87  blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>19:57
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shogun-buildbotbuild #7 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/719:57
shogun-buildbotbuild #84 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/84  blamelist: Chiyuan Zhang <pluskid@gmail.com>19:58
blackburnI do not understand krr issue19:58
@sonney2kblackburn, ?19:59
wikingsonney2k: any insights about that? :)19:59
@sonney2kwiking, not sure what you are asking...19:59
@sonney2kwiking, for dot features you need to know the feature space (at least how to compute it)20:00
blackburnsonney2k: krr example hangs..20:00
@sonney2kto get these add / etc stuff to work20:00
@sonney2kblackburn, I dont' understand that either... it worked totally fine when I was running this on the cmdline20:00
shogun-buildbotbuild #85 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/85  blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>20:00
blackburnsonney2k: did I tell you how I tried svm in fourier space? :D20:01
wikingsonney2k: yeps, but i do not... thus i cannot have my features be dot features... or i force it that it is and ask the user to implement the dot features api20:01
@sonney2kblackburn, no20:01
blackburnsonney2k: I've got the same results :D20:01
@sonney2kblackburn, like?20:02
blackburnsonney2k: original R domain and fourier image of it20:02
blackburnsonney2k: dot product is equal in both..20:02
@sonney2kblackburn, heh :D20:02
blackburnsonney2k: I forgot that20:02
blackburnbut then experimentally proved :D20:02
@sonney2kwiking, I guess real valued features are sufficient.20:03
@sonney2kblackburn, good job :-))20:03
@sonney2kthough numerics usually causes different results20:04
blackburnsonney2k: parceval's theorem to be correct20:04
puffin444sonney2k, fixed that error with modelselection_parameter_tree20:10
@sonney2kpuffin444, is that already merged?20:16
@sonney2kpuffin444, hmmhh cannot be merged - my suggestion is to stay tuned until the buildbots managed to build all the commits20:18
@sonney2kthen start to fix things (if there are any issues)20:18
puffin444hmmhh?20:18
@sonney2kpuffin444, the buildbot builds *every* commit20:30
@sonney2kso when you have one broken one in there it will complain20:31
blackburnsonney2k: can you set up timeout?20:31
blackburnor anything20:31
@sonney2kthat is why you should make sure everything is build20:31
blackburnto build only latest20:31
@sonney2kblackburn, no20:31
@sonney2kI don't want to20:31
blackburnpleease20:31
blackburn:D20:31
@sonney2kit makes a lot of sense this way20:31
blackburnbisect?20:31
@sonney2kyes20:31
blackburnI don't think this actually hepls20:31
@sonney2kyou really see the commit that caused the failure20:32
puffin444When do I know that all the commits have been built?20:32
blackburnpuffin444: when it calmed down20:32
blackburn:D20:32
@sonney2kpuffin444, well look at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/waterfall20:34
@sonney2k30 pending...20:34
blackburnnight of fun for buildbot20:35
blackburn30*5 minutes at least20:35
blackburnor more?20:35
puffin444So I better wait at least a few hours20:35
blackburnpuffin444: take a book :D20:36
blackburn'war and peace' may be20:36
@sonney2kblackburn, if all fail then 1 minute for each build :D20:51
@sonney2kpuffin444, blackburn its done21:01
blackburncool21:05
puffin444sonney2k, I am confused. When can I merge my fix?21:37
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puffin444blackburn, can my fix be merged now?21:51
blackburnrieck: welcome back ;)21:51
CIA-18shogun: puffin444 master * r79cfd56 / (5 files in 2 dirs): Merge remote branch 'upstream/master' - http://git.io/dYbe9A21:52
CIA-18shogun: puffin444 master * r864211e / (2 files): Added checking for empty features in InferenceMethod and ExactInferenceMethod. - http://git.io/iv7nSQ21:52
CIA-18shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * rd8d1b43 / (2 files): Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/puffin444/shogun - http://git.io/i0BPCg21:52
blackburnpuffin444: for your pleasure21:52
rieckit's been a long time.21:56
shogun-buildbotbuild #80 of deb1 - libshogun started, including [79cfd562aef157e6b1859c27e0b2b80bd68d8455]21:57
shogun-buildbotbuild #81 of deb1 - libshogun started, including [864211e1b28b4cb5cd91456772d2d20083a52346, d8d1b438115a43a55224b51336eaee9b9765f7fc]21:57
blackburnrieck: how is it going?21:57
shogun-buildbotbuild #81 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/8121:58
shogun-buildbotbuild #86 of deb2 - static_interfaces started, including [864211e1b28b4cb5cd91456772d2d20083a52346]21:58
shogun-buildbotbuild #8 of cyg1 - libshogun started, including [864211e1b28b4cb5cd91456772d2d20083a52346, d8d1b438115a43a55224b51336eaee9b9765f7fc]21:58
puffin444oh please don't fail22:00
shogun-buildbotbuild #80 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/8022:02
shogun-buildbotbuild #88 of deb3 - modular_interfaces started, including [864211e1b28b4cb5cd91456772d2d20083a52346, d8d1b438115a43a55224b51336eaee9b9765f7fc]22:02
shogun-buildbotbuild #86 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/8622:03
shogun-buildbotbuild #87 of deb2 - static_interfaces started, including [d8d1b438115a43a55224b51336eaee9b9765f7fc, 79cfd562aef157e6b1859c27e0b2b80bd68d8455]22:03
shogun-buildbotbuild #87 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/87  blamelist: puffin444 <walke434@msu.edu>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>22:05
shogun-buildbotbuild #89 of deb3 - modular_interfaces started, including [79cfd562aef157e6b1859c27e0b2b80bd68d8455]22:05
puffin444okay, why did build 86 succeed and 87 fail?22:06
puffin444blackburn, I am confused. Why did one succeed and the other fail?22:08
shogun-buildbotbuild #8 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/822:09
shogun-buildbotbuild #9 of cyg1 - libshogun started, including [79cfd562aef157e6b1859c27e0b2b80bd68d8455]22:09
blackburnpuffin444: no idea :)22:11
puffin444The failed build reported the exact same error, which shouldn't happen after my fix.22:12
shogun-buildbotbuild #88 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile csharp_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/88  blamelist: puffin444 <walke434@msu.edu>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>22:21
shogun-buildbotbuild #9 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/922:21
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wikingi has atlas!22:35
blackburnI can haz atlaz22:35
shogun-buildbotbuild #89 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/89  blamelist: puffin444 <walke434@msu.edu>22:36
wikingmmm i think i have to teach ./configure script to realise that i have atlas :)22:36
blackburnisn't it detected?22:36
wikingnoup22:36
wikingmmm nout even with --libs=/usr/local/lib --includes=/usr/local/include/22:37
wikingso i gotta check the configure.log22:37
wikingdoooh22:38
wikinglibalapack.so22:38
wikingi has that but no liblapack :)22:38
blackburnalapack??22:38
wikingi guess it's some stupid thingy by fbsd people...22:38
blackburnmay be they mean a la pack?22:39
-!- heiko [~heiko@host86-177-117-30.range86-177.btcentralplus.com] has joined #shogun22:39
blackburna bit of french22:39
blackburn:D22:39
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blackburnsonney2k: ping23:12
CIA-18shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * re510cf0 / src/shogun/machine/KernelMachine.cpp : Fixed uninitialized result vector - http://git.io/TJOtCQ23:34
shogun-buildbotbuild #82 of deb1 - libshogun started, including [e510cf00af59d22dece9ce13030ccfadb1fb86d8]23:37
shogun-buildbotbuild #82 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/8223:42
shogun-buildbotbuild #90 of deb3 - modular_interfaces started, including [e510cf00af59d22dece9ce13030ccfadb1fb86d8]23:42
shogun-buildbotbuild #88 of deb2 - static_interfaces started, including [e510cf00af59d22dece9ce13030ccfadb1fb86d8]23:42
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blackburnhey n4nd023:46
n4nd0hey blackburn, what's up?23:46
blackburnfine, currently valgrinding examples :D23:46
blackburnand you?23:46
n4nd0nice23:47
n4nd0I am going to check my code for data simulation for an HM-SVM example23:47
n4nd0a port from the HM-SVM toolbox23:48
shogun-buildbotbuild #88 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/8823:50
n4nd0shogun-buildbot: good work :)23:51
n4nd0shogun-buildbot: dance23:51
shogun-buildbot<(^.^<)23:51
shogun-buildbot<(^.^)>23:51
shogun-buildbot(>^.^)>23:51
shogun-buildbot(7^.^)723:51
shogun-buildbot(>^.^<)23:51
n4nd0haha I love that23:51
blackburnmaking it no so depressive-causing23:51
blackburnn4nd0: earlier bettyboo by rieck was here23:53
blackburnwe had a lof of fun :D23:53
blackburnlot*23:53
n4nd0haha23:53
shogun-buildbotbuild #10 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1023:53
n4nd0I have to check logs23:53
n4nd0today?23:53
blackburnn4nd0: year ago23:53
n4nd0ah ok23:53
n4nd0who is rieck btw?23:54
blackburnwell he is in there :) http://jmlr.csail.mit.edu/papers/v11/sonnenburg10a.html23:55
blackburnno? :D23:55
blackburnsorry23:55
blackburnwell former colleague of sonney2k23:55
shogun-buildbotbuild #90 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile csharp_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/90  blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>23:56
blackburnehm23:59
blackburnshogun-buildbot: wtf?23:59
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