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| --- Day changed Wed Aug 08 2012 | ||
| @sonney2k | so better keep it (besides it is easier...) | 00:00 | 
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| n4nd0 | ok | 00:00 | 
| n4nd0 | anyway, I fill first fix the pull request you commented yesterday | 00:00 | 
| n4nd0 | and after that I will do another one for the plifs | 00:00 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, there it is: [1]: <U+FEFF>Gretton, A., Fukumizu, K., Teo, C., & Song, L. (2008). | 00:01 | 
| blackburn | hehe | 00:01 | 
| blackburn | where does he get these nice chars? | 00:01 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, thanks | 00:01 | 
| @sonney2k | 0 width space!!! | 00:01 | 
| @sonney2k | why did people invent that? | 00:01 | 
| n4nd0 | good night | 00:01 | 
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| blackburn | sonney2k: I need to pass indices to evaluation | 00:02 | 
| blackburn | any idea? | 00:02 | 
| blackburn | adding them to evaluate as optional paramers could be badd | 00:02 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I wish we did not had subsets as members in features but as parameter to get_feature_vector etc | 00:03 | 
| @sonney2k | this would save a lot of trouble | 00:03 | 
| blackburn | sounds ineffective | 00:03 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #272 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/272 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:03 | 
| @sonney2k | (but requires changine *every* learning algorithm) | 00:03 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, why? | 00:03 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: how to do subset stack stuff this way? | 00:04 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, you give the stacked subset (that is precomputed elsewere) | 00:05 | 
| blackburn | yeah but as you said this would require changing everytihng | 00:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: in multitask indexing became a pain for me | 00:06 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yeah it is horrible :/ | 00:06 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, so what do you propose? I mean features and labels support subset stacks | 00:07 | 
| @sonney2k | so in evaluation you can directly use this | 00:07 | 
| blackburn | I do not propose anything | 00:07 | 
| blackburn | :) | 00:07 | 
| @sonney2k | so no problem with indices - just use subset stacks | 00:07 | 
| blackburn | I think I will add a method that is implemented only in multitask evaluations | 00:08 | 
| blackburn | and NOP in others | 00:08 | 
| blackburn | computing the map from test indices to vector of vectors of indices | 00:08 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I need to compute ROC of different tasks separately | 00:09 | 
| blackburn | so with subset [0,4,5,6,14,15] and tasks [0,1,2,3,4]; [5,6,7,8];[14,15,16] I would need to compute [0,4]; [5,6]; [14,15] | 00:10 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r5025ef1 / src/shogun/statistics/HSIC.h : remove zero width unicode whitespace causing build failures - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5025ef152461e231d8ce3d2136a0783749067fc1 | 00:10 | 
| @sonney2k | sounds ok | 00:12 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #273 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/273 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 00:32 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, that was easily fixed http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/273/steps/compile%20java_modular/logs/stdio | 00:34 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, what was that macro again? | 00:35 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: SERIALIZABLE_DUMMY | 00:35 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, can you do it? | 00:35 | 
| blackburn | yeah sure | 00:35 | 
| @sonney2k | yhx | 00:35 | 
| @sonney2k | thx | 00:35 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I do not undrestand why it has no serialization | 00:37 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: it is a different issue I think | 00:38 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r5bc1a7d / src/shogun/multiclass/tree/RelaxedTree.h : Attempt to fix relaxed tree compilation - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5bc1a7d0de026de3721e6f99f6d2eac2f3f73c50 | 00:41 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #266 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/266 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:46 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r081ebb3 / (2 files): An another attempt to fix compilation - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/081ebb3cd0facbe7fd3e2697a786c0ff7fc620e3 | 00:50 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #267 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/267 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:55 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, hmmhh might be due to the templates that these functions are somehow hidden | 00:58 | 
| blackburn | yeah | 00:58 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: | 00:59 | 
| blackburn | ../../shogun/multiclass/tree/RelaxedTree.h:32: Warning 401: Nothing known about base class 'CTreeMachine< RelaxedTreeNodeData >'. Ignored. | 00:59 | 
| blackburn | ../../shogun/multiclass/tree/RelaxedTree.h:32: Warning 401: Maybe you forgot to instantiate 'CTreeMachine< RelaxedTreeNodeData >' using %template. | 00:59 | 
| blackburn | I have it here | 00:59 | 
| blackburn | oh got it | 00:59 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * ra099c28 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Yet another attempt to fix compilation with relaxed tree - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/a099c287a9fda3c40332625ee2b1fe6a32e8d90e | 01:00 | 
| blackburn | argh damn | 01:01 | 
| blackburn | I do not understand it | 01:04 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #268 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/268 | 01:05 | 
| blackburn | so did I solve that? | 01:06 | 
| blackburn | crazy | 01:06 | 
| blackburn | probably I didn't | 01:07 | 
| blackburn | it doesn't work here | 01:08 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #274 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/274 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 01:09 | 
| blackburn | damned puzzle | 01:15 | 
| blackburn | I give up | 01:18 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r23feaca / (2 files): Removed relaxed tree from modular - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/23feacaffca10e6a5825a3e2a10143e53399ff33 | 01:24 | 
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| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r6dbd12d / src/shogun/statistics/KernelTwoSampleTestStatistic.h : add missing $ to fix doc - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/6dbd12df36d2b2fc8396fc7ffdf49c5efacd1293 | 11:15 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r5ab7f26 / src/shogun/evaluation/CrossValidation.h : remove get_mean function (mean is public anyways) - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5ab7f26f4f08c4ac9b5a2a18da7a15c6416b79a0 | 11:15 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rcb99343 / src/shogun/features/AttributeFeatures.h : fix const mismatch in attribute features get_feature type/class size - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/cb99343a78bfff58faf0e8fed0edd5f151525b42 | 11:15 | 
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, about the c# compile failure | 11:20 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: yeah I see | 11:21 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, in csharp / swig any public variable will get a get_variable() / set_variable() function | 11:21 | 
| @sonney2k | so there is a clash | 11:21 | 
| blackburn | yes I see | 11:21 | 
| @sonney2k | we cannot have a public get_mean() and a public mean varialbe | 11:21 | 
| blackburn | good thing to have in python | 11:22 | 
| @sonney2k | what? | 11:22 | 
| blackburn | I feel tired adding getters/setters sometimes | 11:22 | 
| @sonney2k | I think having getters setters instead of *any* public fields is preferable | 11:22 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * raa0bab7 / (29 files in 7 dirs): Merge pull request #692 from pluskid/fix-typo (+5 more commits...) - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/aa0bab77b4df81f3ef7d60db64835ecc360188f7 | 11:23 | 
| blackburn | omg | 11:23 | 
| blackburn | so euclidean now? | 11:24 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ? | 11:26 | 
| @sonney2k | want manhatten? | 11:26 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: no, I used to euclidian name :D | 11:27 | 
| blackburn | but actually it is kind of wrong | 11:27 | 
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, heh - we had lots of other typos for years | 11:34 | 
| @sonney2k | like mathmatics or os | 11:35 | 
| @sonney2k | *so | 11:35 | 
| blackburn | mathermatics | 11:35 | 
| blackburn | :D | 11:35 | 
| @sonney2k | and one really gets used to mattermattics :D | 11:35 | 
| @sonney2k | pluskid, could you please fix these warnings in your code http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/173/steps/compile/logs/warnings%20%2815%29 ? | 11:37 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #276 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile csharp_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/276 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 11:37 | 
| pluskid | sonney2k: ok | 11:37 | 
| @sonney2k | thansk | 11:38 | 
| @sonney2k | thansk | 11:38 | 
| @sonney2k | thanks | 11:38 | 
| pluskid | yuo aer welcmoe! | 11:39 | 
| blackburn | welcme! | 11:39 | 
| @sonney2k | haha | 11:39 | 
| @sonney2k | pluskid, actually there are tons of undocumented fields/classes/functions in your code too that the buildbot complains about herehttp://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/276/steps/compile%20python_modular/logs/warnings%20%28381%29 | 11:40 | 
| blackburn | pluskid: theer weer isuse wtih reldaxed tere, hve u sene? | 11:40 | 
| @sonney2k | pluskid, not all yours of course - blackburn also has his share :D | 11:40 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I hazz | 11:41 | 
| blackburn | ich habe a lot of der issues | 11:41 | 
| pluskid | hmm, I'll try handle those | 11:41 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I can see you BIG cat eyes wide open | 11:41 | 
| pluskid | but super frist | 11:41 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, konetschno | 11:41 | 
| @sonney2k | pluskid, super fooding! | 11:41 | 
| pluskid | :D | 11:41 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: bezuslovno! | 11:42 | 
| @sonney2k | maybe we manage to create some new chinrusdeutschenglish | 11:42 | 
| @sonney2k | I guess n4nd0 could even make things more interesting with swedspanchinrusdeutschenglish | 11:42 | 
| n4nd0 | lol | 11:43 | 
| blackburn | sie pretty interesnyi SPRACHE | 11:43 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, you have to contribute some spanenglish word! | 11:44 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, and swenglish too! | 11:44 | 
| gsomix_ | sonney2k, Lables and SGVector work, ta-dam... | 11:46 | 
| gsomix_ | *works | 11:46 | 
| blackburn | work | 11:46 | 
| @sonney2k | gsomix_, great job! | 11:46 | 
| @sonney2k | gsomix_, what was it? | 11:46 | 
| gsomix_ | sonney2k, strange python behavior | 11:47 | 
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| @sonney2k | gsomix, could you explain more? | 11:47 | 
| blackburn | gsomix consider renaming to m_gsomix according to our code style | 11:47 | 
| gsomix | sonney2k, yep. look, http://docs.python.org/dev/c-api/buffer.html#Py_buffer this is structure, that we fill, when want to use internal buffer. | 11:49 | 
| gsomix | and only view->internal is guaranteed to remain constant | 11:50 | 
| @sonney2k | ok | 11:50 | 
| @sonney2k | and now? | 11:50 | 
| gsomix | another pointers may be corrupted | 11:51 | 
| gsomix | like shape and strides | 11:51 | 
| gsomix | that I try to delete in releasebuffer | 11:51 | 
| gsomix | boo | 11:51 | 
| gsomix | m | 11:51 | 
| alexlovesdata | printing the draft of my thesis :) | 11:51 | 
| @sonney2k | gsomix, ok but how do you know when to not delete these fields then? | 11:52 | 
| alexlovesdata | ok now I have time for you all again O:-) | 11:52 | 
| @sonney2k | alexlovesdata, congrats | 11:52 | 
| n4nd0 | alexlovesdata: yeah, congrats! that's cool :) | 11:52 | 
| alexlovesdata | lets see what my prof will say about it :D | 11:52 | 
| gsomix | sonney2k, now I store this pointers in view->internal. | 11:53 | 
| gsomix | ugly but works | 11:54 | 
| blackburn | gsomix: how do you handle unreference? | 11:57 | 
| gsomix | blackburn, nohow | 11:58 | 
| blackburn | shouldbe | 11:58 | 
| blackburn | somehow | 11:58 | 
| gsomix | maybe it's not needed? ref and unref, I mean | 11:58 | 
| gsomix | because we have pythno ref/unref | 11:59 | 
| gsomix | *python | 11:59 | 
| blackburn | I am unsure we can avoid leaks without ref/unref here | 11:59 | 
| blackburn | can you put sgvector to the internal? | 11:59 | 
| blackburn | or at least pointer to the sgvector | 12:00 | 
| gsomix | yep, I can | 12:00 | 
| blackburn | hmm then there could be a way | 12:01 | 
| blackburn | leaving now | 12:01 | 
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| @sonney2k | gsomix, if you put sgvector in internal then all you have to do to free it is to overwrite it with an empty SGVector | 12:08 | 
| @sonney2k | uricamic, please also have a look at http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/276/steps/compile%20python_modular/logs/warnings%20%28381%29 - there are a couple of fields / functions not documented in your code | 12:13 | 
| @sonney2k | ^ n4nd0 you too btw | 12:13 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: ok | 12:13 | 
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| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r3bf7da4 / (doc/tutorial src/shogun/lib/slep/slep_solver.cpp): remove cleanup exit point - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3bf7da4a5413ef2f263aab6f37de558631c1280c | 12:19 | 
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| @sonney2k | pluskid, ^ seen these buildbot failures? Seems you missed to convert a few includes / examples. | 12:25 | 
| pluskid | sonney2k: oh, I forget about examples | 12:26 | 
| pluskid | ack -i euclidian | wc -l | 12:32 | 
| pluskid | 284 | 12:32 | 
| pluskid | I want to die... | 12:32 | 
| pluskid | maybe I should use sed | 12:32 | 
| uricamic | sonney2k: ok | 12:49 | 
| n4nd0 | pluskid: I have just updated the PR with SGMatrixList refactoring | 12:51 | 
| n4nd0 | pluskid: ups sorry | 12:51 | 
| n4nd0 | that was for sonney2k ^ | 12:52 | 
| n4nd0 | :D | 12:52 | 
| pluskid | let's name today the TYPO-day | 12:52 | 
| n4nd0 | hehe | 12:53 | 
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| n4nd0 | shogun-buildbot: your revenge? | 13:00 | 
| n4nd0 | shogun-buildbot_: dance baby | 13:00 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | <(^.^<) | 13:00 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | <(^.^)> | 13:00 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | (>^.^)> | 13:00 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | (7^.^)7 | 13:00 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | (>^.^<) | 13:00 | 
| shogun-buildbot | omg, I didn't know you can dance... | 13:00 | 
| n4nd0 | haha | 13:00 | 
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| CIA-18 | shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * r5495ec0 / (2 files in 2 dirs): fix some warnings in relaxed tree. - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5495ec0bd82ab51864b1bac4dc473c50becbded2 | 14:48 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Chiyuan Zhang master * rd80c8e9 / (91 files in 13 dirs): euclidian => euclidean in examples. - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d80c8e9d4fb5a2c26860c1b79c6f66e6e2fb4b61 | 14:48 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rbe0b772 / (93 files in 15 dirs): Merge pull request #693 from pluskid/multiclass - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/be0b7726c8ee987a6487d87eb0335bad0cd9882d | 14:48 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #176 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/176 blamelist: Chiyuan Zhang <pluskid@gmail.com> | 14:57 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #177 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/177 | 15:03 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #281 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/281 blamelist: Chiyuan Zhang <pluskid@gmail.com> | 15:15 | 
| pluskid | shogun-buildbot_: dance baby | 15:16 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | <(^.^<) | 15:16 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | <(^.^)> | 15:16 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | (>^.^)> | 15:16 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | (7^.^)7 | 15:16 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | (>^.^<) | 15:16 | 
| pluskid | good | 15:16 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #232 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/232 | 15:21 | 
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| yoo | hi all | 18:03 | 
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| CIA-18 | shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * rc9ba8b6 / (3 files): added debug messages - http://git.io/zlsq5w | 18:26 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r9296faf / examples/undocumented/libshogun/statistics_hsic.cpp : added test for bootstrapping - http://git.io/Ag3N_w | 18:26 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Heiko Strathmann master * r5bb8506 / (4 files in 2 dirs): Merge pull request #694 from karlnapf/master - http://git.io/EG3hlQ | 18:26 | 
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #283 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/283 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 18:56 | 
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| n4nd0 | I am willing to see how many times shogun-buildbot_ is going to blame me when the PR is merged :D | 19:18 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, well one usually should not do any merges until the bb is good | 19:21 | 
| @sonney2k | btw, heiko please don't insert zero width unicode spaces in your doc :D | 19:21 | 
| heiko | sonney2k, did I do this again? :) | 19:22 | 
| heiko | its my evil second identity that does these things :D | 19:22 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: what is the bb? | 19:23 | 
| @sonney2k | buildbot | 19:24 | 
| n4nd0 | all right | 19:25 | 
| @sonney2k | heiko, btw a few warnings are also on you http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/283/steps/compile%20python_modular/logs/warnings%20%28381%29 | 19:25 | 
| @sonney2k | does anyone know where puffin is? | 19:25 | 
| n4nd0 | no idea | 19:25 | 
| @sonney2k | he is the #1 warning producer currently | 19:25 | 
| heiko | sonny2k, ok thanks for noticing, I will start on warnings tomorrow | 19:26 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #284 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/284 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 19:26 | 
| n4nd0 | the internet connection I have here gets me on my nerves | 19:27 | 
| CBlackBurn | n4nd0: imagine you are a martian | 19:31 | 
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| n4nd0 | CBlackBurn: haha I think this interplanetary internet connection NASA is about use is better than mine's | 19:33 | 
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| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r47a593d / (2 files): add tree business to modular interfaces - http://git.io/ppcQpw | 19:43 | 
| @sonney2k | %rename(BlackBurn) CBlackBurn; | 19:43 | 
| @sonney2k | m_gsomix, how about going global? | 19:44 | 
| @sonney2k | g_gsomix :D | 19:44 | 
| @sonney2k | m_gsomix, I guess you will send a PR tonight now that all problems are resolved? | 19:44 | 
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #285 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/285 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 20:03 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: why bigger C is harder to solve but bigger L1 regularization is easier? | 20:59 | 
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, what is bigger L1? | 21:41 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: well lambda with L1 or anything | 21:42 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, lambda == 1/C ? | 21:44 | 
| blackburn | no, just C analogue | 21:45 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: in other words in logistic regression when I regularize more it goes faster | 21:47 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I am curious why SVMs are slower with stronger regularization | 21:48 | 
| blackburn | in L1 logit regression | 21:48 | 
| @sonney2k | no idea why L1 gets faster - maybe solution is more sparse? | 21:49 | 
| blackburn | yeah it is | 21:49 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, with larger C I meant | 21:51 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I am trying to find an interpretation - is larger C a tighter solution space? | 21:52 | 
| blackburn | search space I mean | 21:53 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rd1d2d12 / (3 files in 2 dirs): mention BaseMulticlassMachine in Relaxed tree to get python_modular - http://git.io/q_rIag | 22:01 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, for SVM alphas can range from 0...C (so larger space) | 22:03 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: ahh I see | 22:04 | 
| @sonney2k | lets thing loudly | 22:06 | 
| @sonney2k | the higher C the less training errors are tolerated | 22:07 | 
| blackburn | lets think? | 22:07 | 
| @sonney2k | think! | 22:07 | 
| @sonney2k | so it absolutely tries to have 0 training error | 22:07 | 
| blackburn | yeah that's clear | 22:07 | 
| blackburn | stop I am idiot | 22:07 | 
| blackburn | your lambda=1/C was true :D | 22:07 | 
| blackburn | I kept wrong thing in mind | 22:08 | 
| blackburn | in logistic regression I worked with I increase regularization so no surprise it works faster | 22:08 | 
| blackburn | because it becomes pretty tolerant to errors :D | 22:08 | 
| blackburn | totally tolerant at some point | 22:08 | 
| @sonney2k | bah :/ | 22:09 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: probably larger C = more time holds for every loss+regularizer algo | 22:10 | 
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, I wouldn't say it is always like this - sometimes larger C creates a much simpler / easier solution (sparser...) and things can go quicker but in general yes | 22:28 | 
| @sonney2k | what you say | 22:28 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #286 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/286 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 22:29 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, do you need this? | 22:29 | 
| blackburn | I see | 22:29 | 
| @sonney2k | http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/181/steps/compile/logs/warnings%20%281%29 | 22:29 | 
| blackburn | no crap | 22:29 | 
| blackburn | I will remove | 22:29 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, can you again help with this too http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/286/steps/compile%20java_modular/logs/stdio | 22:30 | 
| @sonney2k | needs your macro again | 22:30 | 
| @sonney2k | pluskids code is causing quite some headaches this time :/ | 22:30 | 
| blackburn | yeah | 22:31 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, so? | 22:31 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: so bad in java we can't come with a solution without copying | 22:32 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yeah there is no way | 22:32 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, even jblas copies... | 22:32 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I would already wish we had some way of getting serialization to work for java w/o the exceptions ... | 22:35 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: what do you mean w/o exceptions? | 22:35 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: it fails because of non sgobjects exposed to interface | 22:40 | 
| blackburn | actually it is a *test* | 22:40 | 
| blackburn | :D | 22:40 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * r05719ba / src/interfaces/modular/modshogun_ignores.i : Added a few non-sgobject ignores to modular - http://git.io/4Hr5LA | 22:43 | 
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| wiking | wellsonfixed | 22:52 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: fixed | 22:53 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Viktor Gal master * r5e2d783 / src/shogun/io/SGIO.h : Mountain Lion changed API of scandir - http://git.io/xScUbA | 22:55 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Viktor Gal master * r2cebf0a / src/shogun/io/SGIO.h : check for osx version a little bit smarter - http://git.io/1HCzSg | 22:55 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rf342b7d / src/shogun/io/SGIO.h : Merge pull request #695 from vigsterkr/master - http://git.io/zGrJOA | 22:55 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, thx - hope you are otherwise progressing well with your so latent stuff? | 22:55 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: yeah crazy times... wanna get everything PR-ed by this friday | 22:56 | 
| wiking | so that we can have it a) for pencil down b) next relase | 22:56 | 
| wiking | rls | 22:56 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, I need to add - you too have some warnings to fix... http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/287/steps/compile%20python_modular/logs/stdio | 22:56 | 
| wiking | but just as u seen | 22:56 | 
| @sonney2k | (like everyone here...) | 22:56 | 
| wiking | i had now a dist-upgrade | 22:56 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, well good luck - I hope you make it | 22:57 | 
| wiking | that broke a bit my system for a while | 22:57 | 
| wiking | but now it's back | 22:57 | 
| @sonney2k | 388 warnings - and we need to get it down to 0 | 22:59 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #287 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/287 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 23:03 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ^ bah - I think you need more ignore / other magic | 23:04 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I think it requires the magic you added | 23:04 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: do you have any reference or do you know something about risk functions for hm-svm? | 23:08 | 
| n4nd0 | my computer is going to die in Spain during these holidays :D | 23:10 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: I just issued a dumb PR with a few warnings fixed | 23:14 | 
| blackburn | nice | 23:14 | 
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #288 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/288 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 23:29 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: iglesias master * r8c1eeea / (7 files in 4 dirs): * minor fixes for doc warnings - http://git.io/5edJYA | 23:35 | 
| CIA-18 | shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn master * rac8c5ba / (7 files in 4 dirs): Merge pull request #696 from iglesias/master - http://git.io/5Elhpg | 23:35 | 
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #289 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/289 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>, Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 23:46 | 
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