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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #400 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/400 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:05 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #292 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/292 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:29 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #401 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/401 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:38 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #316 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/316 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:40 |
| blackburn2 | CIA-36: so you are back but will not tell us anything? | 00:45 |
| blackburn2 | :D | 00:45 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #293 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/293 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:54 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #403 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/403 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 01:41 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #404 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/404 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 02:07 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #405 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/405 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 02:41 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #318 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/318 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 02:43 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #60 of nightly_none is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_none/builds/60 | 03:02 |
| sr___ | can shogun perform some backward propagation neural network kind of stuff? | 03:03 |
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| @sonney2k | sr___, no none of us here is an expert for NN | 09:13 |
| @sonney2k | s | 09:13 |
| @sonney2k | so we better not pretend that we are! | 09:14 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #296 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/296 | 09:41 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #406 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/406 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 10:11 |
| blackburn | uh oh what a pain to get back to job noo | 10:14 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #319 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/319 | 10:17 |
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| thegruel | Hi all | 10:25 |
| blackburn | hey | 10:25 |
| thegruel | This time, I'm having trouble with CLibSVM's train() using python_modular. It sometimes returns "True", but has bias==NaN and empty SVs. Any tips? | 10:26 |
| blackburn | what is kernel you use? | 10:30 |
| blackburn | C? | 10:30 |
| thegruel | CustomKernel (precomputed linear, actually), but PosDef-ness should not be an issue, even after adding a ridge it failed. | 10:31 |
| blackburn | is kernel properly normalized? | 10:32 |
| blackburn | and did you try other solvers? | 10:32 |
| thegruel | Yes, it's normalized. But that shouldn't matter, right? If it's the kernel's fault, the training shouldn't return "True", right? | 10:33 |
| thegruel | Other solvers instaed of LibSVM you mean? No, not yet. All the other SVMs version were super-slow with large kernel matrices. | 10:33 |
| blackburn | thegruel: you may try to check debug prints however I am unsure if it would help | 10:37 |
| thegruel | MSG_DEBUG says: | 10:41 |
| thegruel | [INFO] 96 trainlabels [INFO] Computing gradient for initial set of non-zero alphas [INFO] optimization finished, #iter = 1 [INFO] nu = -nan [INFO] obj = -nan, rho = -nan [INFO] nSV = 0, nBSV = 0 [INFO] Total nSV = 0 | 10:41 |
| thegruel | Oops... Sorry, there seems to be a NaN in the kernel matrix... How did that get there??? | 10:43 |
| blackburn | hehe | 10:43 |
| thegruel | Okay, issue solved (or rather: false alarm) thanks! | 10:53 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #407 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/407 blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 12:27 |
| @sonney2k | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSqrmuZQxz0 | 12:45 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, n4nd0 could you please fix those 2 warnings http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/320/steps/compile%20libshogun/logs/warnings%20%282%29 ? | 12:46 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #408 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/408 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 12:59 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #293 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/293 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 13:05 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #409 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/409 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 13:31 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: sure | 13:50 |
| blackburn | oh I didn't know big displays are so cool | 14:00 |
| blackburn | want 21" notebook :D | 14:00 |
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| yoo | hi all | 14:13 |
| blackburn | hey | 14:13 |
| yoo | how are you ? | 14:13 |
| blackburn | yoo: sorry I forgot to add multiclass things to xvaloutput | 14:13 |
| blackburn | I am setting up things for shogun dev at my job hehe | 14:14 |
| yoo | blackburn: yea, since you didnt sent me the confirmation mail, I thought you didnt have time yet for this | 14:14 |
| blackburn | I can do that today I think | 14:15 |
| yoo | blackburn: great | 14:15 |
| yoo | blackburn: I tried last night to compile shogun with mosek support but I cant make shogun find it | 14:15 |
| blackburn | yeahh that is an issue | 14:16 |
| yoo | blackburn: mosek is well installed | 14:16 |
| yoo | blackburn: ahah ok then :p | 14:16 |
| n4nd0 | yoo: you can make a couple of modifications to your .config file in order to configure with MOSEK support | 14:17 |
| n4nd0 | you'd do them after running ./configure and note that those will be removed every time you run ./configure again | 14:17 |
| yoo | blackburn: when multiclass thgs will be added to xvaloutput, I will probably make up-to-date c++ examples and maybe create new ones | 14:18 |
| yoo | thanks, i'll try it | 14:18 |
| n4nd0 | yoo: let me know if you need to know what these modifications are | 14:19 |
| yoo | n4nd0: do you have a log of your .config file ? | 14:20 |
| n4nd0 | yoo: I already explained these changes by mail to other people, I can just forward that mail to you if you like | 14:20 |
| yoo | n4nd0: yes, it will be kind of you! | 14:21 |
| yoo | thereisnoknife@gmail.com | 14:21 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn, sonney2k: I've just issued a PR with the warning fixed | 14:21 |
| n4nd0 | yoo: hehe funny address :) | 14:21 |
| blackburn | I want to have a switch 'merge all PRs automatically' | 14:21 |
| yoo | I am in the shogun mailing list by the way | 14:22 |
| n4nd0 | yoo: sent | 14:23 |
| yoo | n4nd0: thx | 14:23 |
| yoo | clang++ compilation :p | 14:24 |
| n4nd0 | yeah | 14:25 |
| n4nd0 | try with the standard first | 14:25 |
| n4nd0 | I had to use clang++ but it seemed that the problem was in my machine | 14:25 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k could compile the things with the compiler used in the makefile | 14:25 |
| yoo | ok | 14:26 |
| n4nd0 | see you guys | 14:37 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #410 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/410 blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 14:52 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: any idea what is going on with CIA-36 ? | 15:10 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #411 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/411 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 15:24 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #412 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/412 | 16:01 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #413 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test ruby_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/413 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 17:08 |
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| wiking | mmmm | 18:21 |
| wiking | this died :) | 18:21 |
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| uricamic | hi | 18:23 |
| wiking | hey ! | 18:25 |
| uricamic | can I submit some data to shogun-data? MINST database in svmlight format | 18:25 |
| blackburn | if it is not that big feel free :) | 18:25 |
| uricamic | I want to submit benchmark that needs this data | 18:25 |
| blackburn | what is size? | 18:26 |
| uricamic | 3 files, trn file cca 108MB, validation and test about 10MB each | 18:26 |
| blackburn | oh that's big | 18:26 |
| uricamic | yep, the train set is quite big | 18:27 |
| uricamic | or I could just send the example and one would need to download the data from somewhere else | 18:27 |
| uricamic | it is 60k vectors, of dimension 784 | 18:28 |
| blackburn | what if we compress it? | 18:31 |
| uricamic | that could help | 18:31 |
| uricamic | and is it still possible to read it directly like any other svmlight formated file? | 18:32 |
| blackburn | there should be some way using python (if you are going to use it) | 18:33 |
| uricamic | yep | 18:35 |
| uricamic | it is python example | 18:35 |
| uricamic | ok, compressed it is 32MB total (3 files) | 18:44 |
| blackburn | uricamic: other way is to implement downloader | 18:45 |
| uricamic | blackburn: what do you mean by that? | 18:46 |
| blackburn | you can post it on mldata.org and implement a script that downloads | 18:46 |
| @sonney2k | uricamic, why don't you compress the stuff w/ bz2? | 18:46 |
| blackburn | the dataset on the first run | 18:46 |
| uricamic | I see, is there already such example? | 18:47 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, what is wrong with CIA-36 | 18:47 |
| @sonney2k | ? | 18:47 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: no commit messages anymore | 18:47 |
| uricamic | sonney2k: compressed zip files are now 27.5 MB and 2x 9.1MB | 18:47 |
| blackburn | I miss they | 18:47 |
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| n4nd0 | hi all | 18:50 |
| n4nd0 | what's the problem with our friend shogun-buildbot_? | 18:51 |
| n4nd0 | retry exception slave lost!? | 18:51 |
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| @sonney2k | CIA-52, behave please! | 18:57 |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, no idea - might be that the server the vm is running on is overloaded / got shut down... | 18:57 |
| @sonney2k | I wouldn't be surprised 32 C here... | 18:58 |
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: aham I see | 18:58 |
| n4nd0 | it was above 45 a couple of days in Spain while I was there | 18:58 |
| n4nd0 | record! | 18:58 |
| blackburn | oh I fell asleep while writing commit message LOL | 19:01 |
| n4nd0 | haha | 19:01 |
| n4nd0 | that cannot be true! | 19:01 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: seriously? | 19:01 |
| blackburn | yeahh I had to wake up early today | 19:02 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, wtf is _____________ ? | 19:02 |
| n4nd0 | _____________: hey there, what's up? | 19:04 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: it is my computer at job | 19:05 |
| n4nd0 | :) | 19:06 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: are you back to the job now? | 19:06 |
| blackburn | yeah :( | 19:06 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, btw mailinglist has 233 subscribers nowadays... | 19:06 |
| blackburn | is it a big number? | 19:07 |
| @sonney2k | well we started with 0 so it is inf times bigger :) | 19:08 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, how big do you want it to be? | 19:08 |
| @sonney2k | is 1000 big? | 19:08 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: what was the number year before? | 19:08 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, don't remember | 19:08 |
| @sonney2k | but I think I told you back then | 19:08 |
| blackburn | yeah but I have not much better memory capacity so it is unknown | 19:09 |
| blackburn | denote it by x okay | 19:09 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ok I had a look at the shogun jmlr paper | 19:10 |
| @sonney2k | so end of 2009 it was 1000 | 19:10 |
| @sonney2k | 100 | 19:10 |
| blackburn | 1000 or 100? :) | 19:10 |
| @sonney2k | 100,000 | 19:10 |
| @sonney2k | ;-) | 19:10 |
| @sonney2k | 100 | 19:10 |
| blackburn | I see | 19:10 |
| blackburn | well not the total count but quality matters | 19:11 |
| blackburn | some great guys are subscribed | 19:11 |
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| @sonney2k | I am actually not sure how big the ML community is | 19:11 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: Hi ;) | 19:11 |
| @sonney2k | maybe 1000-10000 people or? | 19:11 |
| n4nd0 | hey yoh_, are you yoo from this morning? | 19:12 |
| blackburn | no he isn't :) | 19:13 |
| n4nd0 | who wanted to compile with MOSEK support | 19:13 |
| n4nd0 | ups OK | 19:13 |
| n4nd0 | yoh_: sorry | 19:13 |
| yoh_ | nah -- I am from yesterday's evening ;) | 19:14 |
| blackburn | yoh_: it's been a while - when did you join us last time? | 19:15 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: so -- what are the chances/ways to get recent version to wheezy? | 19:15 |
| yoh_ | blackburn: do not know really ;) | 19:15 |
| blackburn | if n4nd0 doesn't know you then it is greater than one year | 19:15 |
| blackburn | and actually I remember you were chatting with soeren in march, 2011 last time :D | 19:16 |
| yoh_ | blackburn: for the curious ones: --- Log opened Thu Mar 24 14:04:20 2011 | 19:16 |
| blackburn | yeah | 19:16 |
| yoh_ | blackburn: yeah | 19:16 |
| yoh_ | ;-) | 19:16 |
| n4nd0 | blackburn: impressive memory! and you were saying you don't have much memory capacity ... | 19:16 |
| yoh_ | I just whined to Soeren in email and he suggested to chat online | 19:16 |
| yoh_ | so here I am | 19:16 |
| blackburn | yoh_: we are planning to release 2.0 September the first - our favourite day | 19:17 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, ahh yaroslav | 19:17 |
| @sonney2k | hey | 19:17 |
| blackburn | hahah | 19:17 |
| yoh_ | blackburn: that is great... atm wheezy is scheduled to be released with 0.9 ! ;) | 19:17 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: werre you computing scores to estimate who could that be? | 19:18 |
| blackburn | 0.9? oh nice | 19:18 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, let me first explain the problems I have with packaging: | 19:18 |
| @sonney2k | biggest problem of all is that compiling shogun's interfaces w/ gcc would require >3GB of memory | 19:18 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: I think I know the core -- building all those interfaces across platforms | 19:18 |
| yoh_ | ah... and that ;) | 19:18 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, and debian builders limit things to (I don't recall) but say 2GB | 19:19 |
| yoh_ | I believe I ran into similar problems with some other package that there were simply no RAM avail on that architecture (s390?...) | 19:19 |
| yoh_ | that is I why I suggest | 19:19 |
| @sonney2k | if we had a program that could split up a single 40MB .cpp file into multiple ones we could compile with gcc and all good | 19:20 |
| yoh_ | to check with ftpmasters if they would simply allow removal of shogun from wheezy | 19:20 |
| yoh_ | first and then where it builds -- it builds and gets into wheezy | 19:20 |
| @sonney2k | but since this is not available we just use clang | 19:20 |
| @sonney2k | clang works just fine on some archs (requiring much less memory) | 19:20 |
| @sonney2k | but obviously has bugs | 19:20 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, I don't recall by heart but IIRC it crashes on powerpc and creates a weird linker error on s390 | 19:21 |
| @sonney2k | both bugs in clang but I simply don't have the time to prove that with isolated examples | 19:21 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, then the other issue with python: | 19:21 |
| @sonney2k | I certainly never manually created anything under /usr/*/python* | 19:22 |
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| @sonney2k | however, I switched python packaging to hmmhh what was it dh_python2 or sth? | 19:22 |
| @sonney2k | so I guess there is some issue when the old package is still using the other debian python packaging system | 19:23 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, so no idea about those errors | 19:23 |
| @sonney2k | that's all | 19:23 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, any suggestions? | 19:24 |
| yoh_ | once again -- with all those problems on fancy architectures -- I would have talked to ftpmasters to see if they would agree to just remove shogun from wheezy altogether and allow it propagate from sid | 19:25 |
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| yoh_ | the same happened for ANTs and openmeeg | 19:25 |
| yoh_ | but they were removed even before the freeze IIRC | 19:25 |
| @sonney2k | sure that would work | 19:26 |
| yoh_ | as for python, I guess you meant the one I have filed: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682166 just needs a look (deboostrap squeeze in a directory, install shogun) and go through upgrade to see WTF . But probably better at once to check upgrade to 1.1.0 version in sid | 19:27 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, yeah but I don't know what to do about it | 19:28 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, that is dh_python2 (or the old system trying to remove stuff) | 19:29 |
| yoh_ | I haven't looked into details of this one... but I have ran into it while upgrading from 1.0.0 not 0.9.3... and that one doesn't have those directories (checked on squeeze system) | 19:30 |
| yoh_ | so might it be specific to upgrades from 1.0.0? | 19:30 |
| yoh_ | ah damn -- I just saw it -- you are not in wheezy already | 19:32 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, it is weird: squeeze has | 19:36 |
| @sonney2k | Kernel.py -> /usr/share/pyshared/shogun/Kernel.py | 19:36 |
| @sonney2k | etc in there | 19:36 |
| yoh_ | right, so no /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/shogun, which I guess came with 1.0.0 version right? | 19:38 |
| @sonney2k | momplz kids crying | 19:39 |
| yoh_ | as for http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=shogun - I am still not sure -- why does it wait for those architectures... or if it doesn't -- why claims dependency on octave which you disabled entirely? | 19:39 |
| yoh_ | and then "mono-2.0-devel " dependency -- was that automatically placed? may be just needs a rebuild? | 19:40 |
| yoh_ | so if I were you I was bold and talked to ftp/release teams to figure out what is needed to be done | 19:41 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, it would build on octave w/o trouble btw | 19:41 |
| @sonney2k | problem is just that octave requires even more memory | 19:41 |
| yoh_ | after testing upgrade path first for 0.9.3 -> 1.1.0-5 -- may be there is no problem | 19:41 |
| @sonney2k | (C++ templated code...) | 19:42 |
| yoh_ | but now it is disabled (you commented out binary package right)? | 19:42 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, I think so yes | 19:42 |
| yoh_ | I doubt that you should worry about that ATM -- imho minimal plan should be to get current version as is into wheezy and then may be fix bugs up (e.g. if there is the upgrade problem ;) ) | 19:43 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, if I had time I would redo the packaging and split it up to compile just libshogun for all archs using gcc | 19:43 |
| @sonney2k | then do the same for all interfaces separately... | 19:43 |
| @sonney2k | sure | 19:43 |
| yoh_ | if you had a chance, not time ;) those evil ftp/release- teams might simply not allow such radical changes | 19:43 |
| yoh_ | ;-) | 19:43 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, alright ... let me debootstrap squeeze. | 19:45 |
| yoh_ | and I would have checked with release team why britney (?) demands those builds for other architectures since "[2011-10-06] shogun REMOVED from testing (Britney)" | 19:57 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, no problem installing shogun from squeeze -> sid | 20:06 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #416 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/416 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, Michal Uricar <uricar.michal@gmail.com> | 20:13 |
| shogun-buildbot_ | build #417 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/417 blamelist: Michal Uricar <uricar.michal@gmail.com> | 20:32 |
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| n4nd0 | hi sonney2k | 20:39 |
| n4nd0 | do you have a moment for a question about PLiFs? | 20:39 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #418 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/418 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 20:51 |
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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #419 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile java_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/419 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 21:23 |
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| yoh_ | sonney2k: [no problem installing shogun from squeeze -> sid] good -- leave a comment to that bug report and downgrade importance if it was high ;) | 21:49 |
| yoh_ | so it is left to figure out why it didn't get into wheezy ;) | 21:50 |
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| gsomix | sonney2k, hey | 22:06 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, can I change some constructors and methods needed for zero-copy and write typemaps? foobar(SGMatrix) -> foobar(SGMatrix, bool copy), I mean | 22:08 |
| gsomix | thanks | 22:08 |
| gsomix | oh no, I cant :( | 22:11 |
| n4nd0 | good night guys | 22:15 |
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| @sonney2k | yoh_, but actually there was someone noting how to reproduce the issue | 22:40 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, just do apt-get install --reinstall shogun-python-modular on your machine and voila! | 22:40 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, the problem is that for the typemaps to work you would then need either typemaps that operate on SGVector, bool | 22:42 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: ah | 22:42 |
| @sonney2k | or some flag inside SGVector | 22:42 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: indeed | 22:43 |
| yoh_ | ah... you have all kinds of "stuff" in your shogun-python-modular.preinst | 22:44 |
| yoh_ | and shogun-python-static.preinst -- I guess forgotten to be removed when switched from pycentral ;) | 22:45 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, it can only happen on upgrade | 22:45 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: yeap -- all that on if [ "$1" = upgrade ] | 22:45 |
| yoh_ | ;) | 22:45 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, ok there is a shogun-elwms-static.preinst | 22:46 |
| yoh_ | sorry for misleading | 22:46 |
| @sonney2k | etc | 22:46 |
| yoh_ | I guess it is rm -f /usr/lib/python$pyversion/$pydir/shogun/* | 22:46 |
| yoh_ | in shogun-python-modular.preinst | 22:47 |
| yoh_ | which is not conditioned on " dpkg --compare-versions "$2" lt 0.9.3-3 " | 22:47 |
| yoh_ | so you always invoke it | 22:47 |
| @sonney2k | I have absolutely no idea if removing the *preinst* files would be OK... | 22:48 |
| yoh_ | well -- theoretically all those manual cleanups should not be necessary at all, right? | 22:49 |
| @sonney2k | indeed prerm contains | 22:50 |
| @sonney2k | pyclean -p shogun-python-modular | 22:50 |
| yoh_ | and you had them there for some previous versions... probably prior 1.0... so why not condition such and be done? you probably would know more ;) | 22:50 |
| yoh_ | pyclean (from manpage) just removes complied .py[co] -- that is different | 22:50 |
| yoh_ | just look when/why you introduced those total cleanup loop -- may be you could simply condition it on some earlier version as well and be done ;) | 22:52 |
| yoh_ | probably prior 1.xxx versions | 22:53 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, I didn't no clue about this hack | 22:53 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, OK in dh_python2 packages are done more robust: every symlink / dir is already inside the package visible via dpkg -L ... | 22:55 |
| yoh_ | it was only your 2 commits which worked on that .preinst :-P | 22:55 |
| @sonney2k | and just /usr/share/pyshared contains the stuff | 22:55 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: yes, with dh_python2 everything is in the package (so needs binary rebuilds for new supported python versions) | 22:55 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, hm, there is another problem. typemaps doesn't make sense, when we need to overload free_feature_matrix with hack | 22:55 |
| gsomix | :( | 22:56 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, that makes a *lot* of sense | 22:56 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, btw, I have implemented new inplace arithmetic mechanism. ?ow the behavior is the same as in numpy. | 23:00 |
| gsomix | *now | 23:00 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, you mean you can do shogun dense featurematrix x : x+=1 ? | 23:02 |
| @sonney2k | that worked already - so what did you change? | 23:02 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, yep | 23:04 |
| gsomix | worked? O_o | 23:04 |
| gsomix | wait... how? | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, err you did that a month back IIRC?! | 23:05 |
| gsomix | yep, but only for matrices with same type and shape and buffer | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, I think this preinst is still needed - at least I don't understand how the files in /usr/lib/python2.X/dist-packages/shogun/* will be removed? | 23:07 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, ahh | 23:08 |
| @sonney2k | so now you can do these ops for scalars and other compatible shapes? | 23:08 |
| gsomix | yep | 23:08 |
| gsomix | like in numpy, because I use numpy's number protocol (I need send letter to this guys) | 23:09 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: do you mean on new installations? dh_python2 should take care about that ... it should add call to update-python-modules -c in prerm | 23:11 |
| gsomix | at now I want only one thing - RealFeatures(my_cool_matrix, copy=False). :( | 23:11 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, for new installations it will work | 23:12 |
| yoh_ | so - for new packages there should be no manual anything in .pre/post scripts... at least I never add anything ;) whatever problems you were resolving before should thus be conditioned on those old versions | 23:12 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, since 1.0.0-1 it uses dh_python2 | 23:12 |
| yoh_ | good -- so why not condition that manual rm on pre-1.0.0-1 of the version to be upgraded from? | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | so maybe conditioning on that could work | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, I don't see that happening w/o adding new typemaps / constructors | 23:15 |
| yoh_ | sonney2k: but once again -- figure out first is there anything else to fix to get current revision into wheezy | 23:15 |
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| @sonney2k | yoh_, I cannot fix clang though | 23:17 |
| yoh_ | rright -- but that is only on some architectures, right? ATM there is no shogun on ANY architecture in wheezy | 23:18 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, there are of course no bug | 23:20 |
| @sonney2k | s | 23:21 |
| yoh_ | of cause not -- are you writing a buggy software? ;) | 23:22 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, nite. PR will be tomorrow, and I will star work on typemap for modelsel. | 23:25 |
| gsomix | good night guys | 23:25 |
| yoh_ | gsomix: sleep tight! | 23:25 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, alright - so before 0.9.3-3 shogun packages where using pycentral | 23:25 |
| @sonney2k | that is what the first comparison is for | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | now I would jsut add | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | if dpkg --compare-versions "$2" lt 0.10.0-1 ; then | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | aroudn the other rm -rf | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | rm -f that is | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, and do a new upload | 23:27 |
| yoh_ | but why new upload? (or to experimental?) | 23:27 |
| @sonney2k | no to sid? | 23:28 |
| yoh_ | I would have first figured out WTF will be happening with package -- will it go into wheezy at all at this point | 23:28 |
| @sonney2k | I mean the bug is there right? | 23:28 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, no matter what - the current version is useless | 23:28 |
| yoh_ | yeah... bug is there but you do not know what release team thinks in general about this situation | 23:28 |
| yoh_ | yeah -- current one is buggy | 23:29 |
| yoh_ | anyways -- up to you ;-) | 23:29 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, well shogun 1.1 is pretty outdated anyways after gsoc. | 23:30 |
| yoh_ | if I were you I would have just figured out "the plan" first ;) | 23:30 |
| yoh_ | so you do not want any shogun in wheezy? | 23:30 |
| @sonney2k | so if it is not in - it doesn't hurt | 23:30 |
| @sonney2k | no I wanted 1.1 in that is why I tried to fix all bugs that got reported in time | 23:31 |
| @sonney2k | but with these show stoppers I simply had no clue what to do | 23:31 |
| @sonney2k | and since the preinst scripts were not mine I could not even have imagined that we were messing with that stuff | 23:31 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, thanks for your work - I would also suggest - you keep your frombuffer() functions for now | 23:34 |
| @sonney2k | and better work on model selection typemaps | 23:34 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, btw do you still use shogun these days? | 23:41 |
| @sonney2k | yoh_, when you are awake I mean :D | 23:47 |
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