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| shogun-buildbot | build #567 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/567 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 00:08 | 
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| wiking | sonne_: i think i've solved the problem how to have modular interfaces tested on travis and not running out of the hard deadline of 25 minutes | 00:33 | 
| wiking | sonne_: we'll just fire up for each interface a separate travis instance | 00:34 | 
| wiking | and then we should be safe :P | 00:34 | 
| shogun-buildbot | build #459 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/459 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 00:35 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, that would be cool | 00:39 | 
| wiking | how do we want to include gmock/gtest into shogun? :) | 00:40 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, well it should be autodetected of course | 00:42 | 
| sonne_ | and then typing just make will run tests for the file | 00:43 | 
| sonne_ | s | 00:43 | 
| wiking | no i mean the thing is now | 00:43 | 
| wiking | that as they say | 00:43 | 
| wiking | we should compile ourselves in our project | 00:43 | 
| wiking | gtest/gmock | 00:44 | 
| wiking | https://groups.google.com/group/googletestframework/tree/browse_frm/thread/668eff1cebf5309d/f7787f381a418617?hide_quotes=no | 00:44 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, yes we should | 00:44 | 
| wiking | so how we're going to do that | 00:45 | 
| wiking | i guess another submodule? :) | 00:45 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, hmmhh no | 00:45 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, the gmock/gtest stuff should still be in a debian package | 00:46 | 
| sonne_ | but you compile their code and link appropriately | 00:46 | 
| sonne_ | w/shogun | 00:46 | 
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| sonne_ | heiko1, hey hey! | 00:47 | 
| heiko1 | sonne_ hey :) | 00:47 | 
| heiko1 | how is it going? | 00:47 | 
| wiking | sonne_: u mean to get the source of the package via he package system? | 00:48 | 
| sonne_ | heiko1, any thoughts about doing the doc sprint? | 00:48 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, no | 00:48 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, the source is in the package | 00:48 | 
| wiking | is it? | 00:48 | 
| heiko1 | sonne_ I would love to do that actually :) Arthur suggested to combine it with the NIPS somehow, but I havent checked the dates yet | 00:49 | 
| sonne_ | yes | 00:49 | 
| sonne_ | heiko1, most important for now is to decide whether we want to apply | 00:50 | 
| sonne_ | (we have just this week until the application deadline) | 00:50 | 
| heiko1 | sonne_ ok, will check that out now, just returned home. As I said, I would love to go. Gotta check out with my new job, but I think that will work | 00:50 | 
| heiko1 | what are the chances of being accepted? | 00:51 | 
| sonne_ | heiko1, no idea... | 00:51 | 
| shogun-buildbot | build #568 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/568 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 00:51 | 
| wiking | sonne_: this one only has the headers: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/google-mock | 00:51 | 
| sonne_ | I talked to carol but no clue | 00:51 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, that is an old package then :/ | 00:51 | 
| sonne_ | can you grab a newer one? | 00:51 | 
| sonne_ | from debian or so? | 00:51 | 
| heiko1 | ok, lets just apply, but let me check the dates first, Just got a phone call, will be back in 15 mins | 00:51 | 
| wiking | sonne_: no i was wront this one actually has the libgmock.so as well :) | 00:52 | 
| wiking | http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/i386/google-mock/filelist | 00:52 | 
| wiking | :) | 00:52 | 
| wiking | ah ok | 00:53 | 
| wiking | so gmock has it | 00:53 | 
| wiking | i mean the library | 00:53 | 
| wiking | but gtest not | 00:53 | 
| wiking | http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libgtest-dev/filelist | 00:53 | 
| wiking | and it has the sources | 00:53 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, please check packages.debian.org | 00:54 | 
| sonne_ | but search for gtest only | 00:54 | 
| sonne_ | could be that it got renamed | 00:54 | 
| wiking | ok | 00:56 | 
| sonne_ | alright I have to go to a talk now | 00:56 | 
| wiking | debian experimental has the right | 00:56 | 
| wiking | format | 00:56 | 
| wiking | i mean content | 00:56 | 
| shogun-buildbot | build #460 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/460 | 00:57 | 
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| shogun-buildbot | build #569 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/569 blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com> | 01:08 | 
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| sonne_ | wiking, in the talk now... | 01:08 | 
| sonne_ | wiking, we could of course support both... | 01:09 | 
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| @sonney2k | wiking, I am on the machine w/ access now | 01:22 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, so lemme check the bb | 01:22 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: is chris with you? | 01:29 | 
| blackburn | I mean at the summit | 01:30 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes | 01:31 | 
| @sonney2k | setting next to me | 01:31 | 
| blackburn | heh | 01:31 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, did you point the bb to shogun-toolbox org? | 01:31 | 
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| blackburn | sonney2k: kick him! | 01:32 | 
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| @sonney2k | he looks very relaxed | 01:33 | 
| @sonney2k | listening to the science session | 01:33 | 
| blackburn | kick! relaxed is not allowed at the science session | 01:33 | 
| blackburn | :D | 01:33 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, bc it says it is offline http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/waterfall | 01:33 | 
| @sonney2k | heiko1, one thing - are you working on the buildbot failure? | 01:35 | 
| @sonney2k | heiko1, we should really get everything back to green asap | 01:35 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, yes will be solved soon, its due to changes in the streaming | 01:35 | 
| @sonney2k | otherwise we run into trouble with new commits (bugs slipping through..) | 01:35 | 
| @sonney2k | thx, the sooner the better | 01:36 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, I got a job interview on tuesday, then I can ask if I could go to the doc summit (which is parallel to NIPS), since its in Uni, I dont think there will be problems with that | 01:39 | 
| heiko1 | one thing is: I would love to go to NIPS, but its 220 miles from mountain view, so no idea how probable that is - also then I cannot write docs. | 01:39 | 
| heiko1 | but doint only one of the things is also fine | 01:40 | 
| blackburn | what a bad coincidence | 01:40 | 
| @sonney2k | heiko1, so your paper got accepted? congrats! | 01:40 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, yeah, would be better if these things were one after another, then I could attend both :) | 01:40 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, yes :) thanks | 01:41 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, do origanisations and individuals have to apply separately for the doc summit? | 01:42 | 
| @sonney2k | no just as a group we can apply | 01:43 | 
| @sonney2k | but we need some critical mass ~4 people | 01:43 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: ask chris whether he likes that | 01:43 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, likes what? | 01:43 | 
| @sonney2k | writing docs? | 01:43 | 
| blackburn | yes | 01:43 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, just read everything, sounds great! | 01:45 | 
| heiko1 | lets do it! | 01:45 | 
| heiko1 | We can recylce the proposal I wrote for the GSoC | 01:45 | 
| heiko1 | and I can write stuff for ModelSelection since MMD stuff is pretty complete documented (except for streaming) But I am also fine with documenting the other GSoC projects | 01:46 | 
| heiko1 | meeting the others is also awesome | 01:46 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, you should also come :) | 01:46 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: I am thinking about that | 01:46 | 
| heiko1 | would be cool to meet in real :) | 01:47 | 
| @sonney2k | heiko1, who else could potentially come? | 01:47 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, you mean which GSoC student? | 01:47 | 
| @sonney2k | yes | 01:47 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: I have potential passport- and visa-wise troubles | 01:48 | 
| heiko1 | well obsously the GP guy, he is in the area already | 01:48 | 
| heiko1 | jacob walker | 01:48 | 
| heiko1 | and fernando probably is also interested | 01:48 | 
| @sonney2k | chiyuan too? | 01:48 | 
| heiko1 | gsomix since he did all these great changes | 01:48 | 
| heiko1 | actually - everybody :) | 01:48 | 
| blackburn | gsomix would have same problems as me :) | 01:49 | 
| @sonney2k | well everyone that could write some substantial amount of doc | 01:49 | 
| heiko1 | who wrote during the gsoc? | 01:49 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, chiyuan and me right? | 01:49 | 
| @sonney2k | only you and blackbrun and chiyuan | 01:49 | 
| @sonney2k | yeah | 01:49 | 
| heiko1 | well, then us three at least | 01:50 | 
| @sonney2k | so you + fernando maybe? | 01:50 | 
| heiko1 | yeah | 01:50 | 
| blackburn | btw there is a Pascal Harvest programme that could be similar thing as that doc sprint | 01:50 | 
| heiko1 | who did reply to your mail? | 01:50 | 
| @sonney2k | no one | 01:50 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I am not in pascal... | 01:50 | 
| heiko1 | ok its already late and saturday :) | 01:50 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, people should be interested in it | 01:51 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: does that matter for that programme? | 01:51 | 
| @sonney2k | just afternoon here | 01:51 | 
| heiko1 | well, not here :) | 01:51 | 
| @sonney2k | heiko1, isn't arthur in pascal? | 01:51 | 
| heiko1 | I think yes | 01:51 | 
| heiko1 | Ehm, I did not get why you ask :) | 01:51 | 
| heiko1 | is there a similar thing going on in there? | 01:51 | 
| blackburn | it is 30-90 days physical co-location | 01:52 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: http://www.pascal-network.org/?q=node/19 | 01:52 | 
| @sonney2k | but for pascal members only or? | 01:52 | 
| blackburn | I didn't see such restriction but may be I just missed | 01:52 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, ah nice one | 01:53 | 
| heiko1 | but that is more docussed on software development | 01:53 | 
| blackburn | well, yes | 01:53 | 
| heiko1 | so implement a recent paper into shogun | 01:53 | 
| heiko1 | sounds fun! :) | 01:53 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, could you please fix up the doc page? | 01:53 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: what's wrong? | 01:54 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, err contacts page | 01:54 | 
| @sonney2k | move mailinglist first | 01:54 | 
| @sonney2k | then irc | 01:54 | 
| blackburn | yeah I will tomorrow | 01:54 | 
| @sonney2k | kthx | 01:54 | 
| heiko1 | 30-90 days | 01:54 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, sonney2k, this might be quite cool for next spring (at least for me) | 01:55 | 
| heiko1 | but people need to be at the same place | 01:55 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: well is that a problem? | 01:55 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, well yeah do you think they will fund accomondation? | 01:56 | 
| heiko1 | and where? | 01:56 | 
| heiko1 | and 4-8 persons | 01:56 | 
| blackburn | yes that's the thing they fund | 01:56 | 
| heiko1 | I see | 01:56 | 
| heiko1 | wow | 01:56 | 
| heiko1 | amazing | 01:56 | 
| blackburn | The execution phase should take place in the European Union, or in a country hosting a PASCAL 2 member. Participants who are not normally located where the execution takes place will be refunded a return flight in economy class from the place where they live, and will be entitled to a per-diem for accommodation, meals and local travel. | 01:56 | 
| heiko1 | then we should go for London | 01:57 | 
| heiko1 | there are many Pascal members around here | 01:57 | 
| heiko1 | I could ask John-Shawe Taylor :) | 01:57 | 
| heiko1 | he would probably agree | 01:57 | 
| heiko1 | and then implement some new cool stuff into shogun | 01:57 | 
| heiko1 | like Kernel belief propagation | 01:57 | 
| heiko1 | or integrate graphlab into shogun :D | 01:58 | 
| blackburn | anyway that seems to be prospective | 01:58 | 
| blackburn | however last time I said that I want to participate in such programme my gf was running for me with an axe trying to kill me | 01:58 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, hahaha :) | 01:59 | 
| heiko1 | man its just 1 month | 01:59 | 
| blackburn | or to be serious she didn't like that :D | 01:59 | 
| heiko1 | or maybe 3 :) | 01:59 | 
| heiko1 | take her with you | 01:59 | 
| heiko1 | everynbody like London | 01:59 | 
| blackburn | we will just spend all the money for vodka | 01:59 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: will we? | 01:59 | 
| heiko1 | or maybe we could do it in Germany, e.g. in Berlin | 01:59 | 
| heiko1 | Berlin is even nicer than London | 02:00 | 
| blackburn | lets do it in Bryansk! | 02:00 | 
| heiko1 | are there any scientists over there? :D | 02:00 | 
| blackburn | in bryansk? | 02:00 | 
| heiko1 | Vodka is pretty expensive here btw | 02:00 | 
| blackburn | oh.. may be | 02:00 | 
| blackburn | or rather minsk | 02:00 | 
| blackburn | lets move to minsk | 02:00 | 
| blackburn | (belarus) | 02:01 | 
| blackburn | our code will be reviewed by KGB then | 02:01 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: we will produce some vodka by ourselves, not a problem | 02:02 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, LOL :) | 02:03 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: the reason I am not sure I am able to come is that I have to get two documents | 02:04 | 
| blackburn | foreign passport and usa visa | 02:04 | 
| blackburn | and they both require not really less than two weeks | 02:05 | 
| blackburn | and the 1 is required for the 2 | 02:05 | 
| heiko1 | I see | 02:05 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: we have two passports :D | 02:05 | 
| heiko1 | a damn, I dont have a passport, so I would have to go to Germany before | 02:05 | 
| blackburn | one is internal and one is foreign | 02:06 | 
| blackburn | I don't know what the heck was in minds when they decided to do it this way | 02:06 | 
| heiko1 | no idea | 02:07 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: how can that be? is there anything that identifies you? | 02:07 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, yes my German ID | 02:07 | 
| heiko1 | ID card | 02:07 | 
| heiko1 | but thats a different thing than a passport | 02:07 | 
| blackburn | hmm no idea what is it | 02:08 | 
| blackburn | but we have no ID cards here | 02:08 | 
| heiko1 | I always get a temporary passport when I travel since being lazy, I should get a passport in any way | 02:08 | 
| blackburn | or everybody except me has | 02:08 | 
| blackburn | :D | 02:08 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: you don't have to get visa, right? | 02:09 | 
| heiko1 | for the US? | 02:09 | 
| heiko1 | no idea | 02:09 | 
| blackburn | yeah you don't have to | 02:10 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: I would have to ask for a visa then talk to a councillor and then wait for the decision :D | 02:11 | 
| heiko1 | pretty short-notice since all this stuff is in December | 02:11 | 
| blackburn | and furthermore pay 180$ for that thing | 02:11 | 
| blackburn | with probability of being rejected | 02:11 | 
| blackburn | nice to live in third-world country :D | 02:12 | 
| heiko1 | phew | 02:12 | 
| heiko1 | man | 02:12 | 
| heiko1 | you should come to Europe :) | 02:12 | 
| blackburn | okay enough laments I have to sleep :D | 02:12 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: I'd need the same thing for europe :D | 02:12 | 
| heiko1 | man | 02:13 | 
| heiko1 | but there are so many Russians here | 02:13 | 
| blackburn | yes sure | 02:13 | 
| heiko1 | I fighted against one in boxing training today :D | 02:13 | 
| blackburn | I heard that before :) was he like a bear? | 02:14 | 
| heiko1 | actually | 02:15 | 
| heiko1 | yes | 02:15 | 
| heiko1 | pretty scary that guy | 02:15 | 
| heiko1 | :) | 02:15 | 
| heiko1 | My size, but 20 kilos more weight :D | 02:15 | 
| heiko1 | (which is not hard) | 02:15 | 
| blackburn | yeah I remember you are tall and skinny :) | 02:15 | 
| heiko1 | yes | 02:16 | 
| blackburn | I am a full opposite being 175cm tall :) | 02:16 | 
| heiko1 | but I am fast and have long arms and legs, that helps | 02:16 | 
| heiko1 | damn, I definitely need that passport, I will apply for one on monday, hope I get an appointment | 02:17 | 
| blackburn | hah | 02:17 | 
| blackburn | good thing my story wasn't useless, at least it recalled you to take the passport | 02:17 | 
| heiko1 | yeah | 02:18 | 
| heiko1 | annoying these things | 02:18 | 
| heiko1 | since I can only get a passport when I have an ID | 02:18 | 
| heiko1 | I dont get why this is necessary | 02:18 | 
| heiko1 | oh man, | 02:19 | 
| heiko1 | shit, this is pretty short notice everything :( | 02:19 | 
| heiko1 | I dont know if this will work out | 02:19 | 
| blackburn | yes | 02:20 | 
| blackburn | I planned to get foreign passport this or next month | 02:20 | 
| blackburn | if I had it already all I'd need is to get visa | 02:20 | 
| heiko1 | I will call the embassy on Monday | 02:20 | 
| heiko1 | if not, I might just fly to Germany to do this | 02:21 | 
| blackburn | okay sleep time | 02:22 | 
| blackburn | heiko1: see you | 02:22 | 
| heiko1 | blackburn, good night! | 02:23 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: see you don't get asleep at all these talks and kick chris | 02:23 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: and do not forget to vodka | 02:24 | 
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| @sonney2k | pretty cool to sit in the google bus with fast wifi :D | 02:37 | 
| heiko1 | sonney2k, nice one in the google bus :) | 03:00 | 
| heiko1 | going to bed now | 03:00 | 
| heiko1 | gn8 | 03:00 | 
| shogun-buildbot | build #122 of nightly_none is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_none/builds/122 | 03:02 | 
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| shogun-buildbot | build #139 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/139 | 03:53 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: u r sleeping now? :) | 09:56 | 
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| wiking | Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: "shogun::SGVector<shogun::SGVector<double> >::resize_vector(int)", referenced from: | 13:10 | 
| wiking | oookey | 13:10 | 
| wiking | :D | 13:10 | 
| blackburn | vector of vectors? | 13:13 | 
| blackburn | http://images.wikia.com/central/images/3/38/Okay_face.jpg | 13:13 | 
| wiking | yeah because SGMatrix does not support resize | 13:17 | 
| wiking | i'm gonna fucking use std::vector here :) | 13:20 | 
| wiking | i'm gonna fucking use std::vector here :) | 13:21 | 
| wiking | lalala | 13:21 | 
| wiking | great works like a charm | 13:22 | 
| blackburn | wiking: http://www.cdvp.dcu.ie/datasets/pedestrian_detection/ and while it was there I was thinking to create my own data | 14:17 | 
| blackburn | :D | 14:17 | 
| blackburn | I should use google better | 14:17 | 
| wiking | :> | 14:45 | 
| wiking | dohaaaa | 14:45 | 
| blackburn | wiking: where is irc travis? | 15:34 | 
| blackburn | he left us alone | 15:34 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, around? | 15:43 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, please bring your buildbot online http://shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/waterfall | 15:44 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: ok | 15:59 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: doing it | 15:59 | 
| wiking | blackburn: i wonder as well | 15:59 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: message from master: attached | 16:00 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, please fix the contact page on our website... | 16:02 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: force a build on ubu to see how it works :) | 16:03 | 
| @sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build ubu1-libshogun | 16:04 | 
| shogun-buildbot | no such builder 'ubu1-libshogun' | 16:04 | 
| @sonney2k | list | 16:04 | 
| wiking | mmm | 16:04 | 
| @sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build "ubu1 - libshogun" | 16:04 | 
| shogun-buildbot | build #0 forced | 16:04 | 
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 16:04 | 
| @sonney2k | dammed | 16:05 | 
| wiking | :> | 16:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: right, I forgot | 16:05 | 
| @sonney2k | has anyone seen fernando? | 16:05 | 
| blackburn | will do in 15 minutes | 16:05 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: on friday | 16:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I talked to him last week | 16:05 | 
| @sonney2k | we need him if we want to gsoc-sprint... | 16:05 | 
| @sonney2k | also chiyuan | 16:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I am very optional to visit | 16:06 | 
| @sonney2k | maybe I email him in person | 16:06 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, ok so let me add the scan build stuff | 16:07 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: sunday today.. he will be available on monday I think | 16:07 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: ok... i don't know what's with the current build | 16:07 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: it is still cloning the repo | 16:07 | 
| blackburn | IIRC he likes USA so he should agree :) | 16:07 | 
| wiking | ah ok | 16:07 | 
| wiking | DAAAMn | 16:07 | 
| wiking | WHY NO TAG FOR 2.0 RELEASE? :) | 16:08 | 
| wiking | which commit was the 2.0 release? | 16:08 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, it is a branch iirc | 16:08 | 
| @sonney2k | ugh no! | 16:09 | 
| @sonney2k | something went wrong w/ the release script | 16:09 | 
| wiking | :( | 16:10 | 
| wiking | why branch for a release? | 16:10 | 
| wiking | just have a release tag | 16:10 | 
| wiking | :) | 16:10 | 
| @sonney2k | shogun_2.0.x branch + release tag | 16:10 | 
| @sonney2k | when you want just bugfix releases | 16:10 | 
| wiking | ah yeah | 16:11 | 
| wiking | since u are here | 16:11 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: how's the svmlight ported to shogun? :) | 16:11 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: i'd like to call svm_learn_optimization(...) from svmlight | 16:12 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: but i can see that there's a big amount of change has been done while integrating it into shogun | 16:12 | 
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| @sonney2k | wiking, yes I did lots of stuff there... it is no longer the old svm light | 16:17 | 
| @sonney2k | (parallelized, linadd, mkl, ...) | 16:18 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, hmmhh is your ubunut bot still doing? | 16:19 | 
| wiking | according to top | 16:20 | 
| wiking | it's cc1plus-ing | 16:20 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: you could do make -j4 | 16:20 | 
| @sonney2k | added | 16:21 | 
| @sonney2k | but lets first see that it compiles ones... | 16:21 | 
| wiking | soon seems to be ready | 16:23 | 
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| shogun-buildbot | Hey! build ubu1 - libshogun #0 is complete: Success [build successful] | 16:24 | 
| shogun-buildbot | Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ubu1%20-%20libshogun/builds/0 | 16:24 | 
| @sonney2k | thanks shogun-buildbot | 16:25 | 
| @sonney2k | alright then lets try with the hard stuff | 16:25 | 
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| blackburn | sonney2k: you should get drunk, dive into that pool and have fun! | 16:25 | 
| blackburn | not the buildbot configuration | 16:26 | 
| blackburn | :D | 16:26 | 
| @sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build "ubu1 - libshogun" | 16:26 | 
| shogun-buildbot | build #1 forced | 16:26 | 
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 16:26 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, did you update the doc? | 16:26 | 
| @sonney2k | heh | 16:26 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: working oni t | 16:26 | 
| @sonney2k | well I define what fun is :P | 16:26 | 
| @sonney2k | but yes I will go to the pool soon (it is 7:30 here) | 16:27 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, the static analysis stuff should be there already | 16:27 | 
| @sonney2k | do you know where it is? | 16:27 | 
| @sonney2k | I mean the url to view it? | 16:28 | 
| @sonney2k | pool time! | 16:38 | 
| blackburn | hmm how to rerrange that | 16:39 | 
| shogun-buildbot | Hey! build ubu1 - libshogun #1 is complete: Success [build successful] | 16:44 | 
| shogun-buildbot | Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ubu1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1 | 16:44 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: ok | 16:44 | 
| wiking | damn | 16:45 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: in pool or still here? | 16:45 | 
| blackburn | in ejb beans pool | 16:45 | 
| blackburn | :D | 16:46 | 
| blackburn | one should be careful to not get dependency injected | 16:46 | 
| wiking | http://categorizer.tmit.bme.hu/~wiking/shogun.sa/ | 16:46 | 
| wiking | what the fuck is with the permission | 16:46 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: it'll always put it here: http://categorizer.tmit.bme.hu/~wiking/shogun.sa/ | 16:47 | 
| wiking | i just wonder why there's a permission problem | 16:47 | 
| wiking | loooooooooooooooool | 16:47 | 
| wiking | -rw------- 1 wiking 1017 671543 Oct 21 16:41 report-yROCmu.html | 16:47 | 
| wiking | why oooo whyyyyyyy scan-build ?! | 16:48 | 
| wiking | http://categorizer.tmit.bme.hu/~wiking/shogun.sa/2012-10-21-1/index.html | 16:48 | 
| wiking | tada | 16:48 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: done! | 16:57 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, what is your umask of the buildbot user? | 17:03 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, remove the irc page and put it just below | 17:05 | 
| blackburn | allright | 17:05 | 
| @sonney2k | it is not really that much information | 17:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: done | 17:07 | 
| blackburn | done | 17:10 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, well not like this :) | 17:15 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, just have 3 sections mailinglist, irc, direct contact or so | 17:16 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, blackburn - I think we need some developers page on our homepage where we have direct links to github/buildbot/static code analysis whatever log files - suggestions? | 17:17 | 
| blackburn | hmmm okay but I have to go now | 17:17 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: yes we need all the developer stuff in one place | 17:17 | 
| @sonney2k | please think about what else info we need | 17:18 | 
| @sonney2k | (for developers) | 17:18 | 
| blackburn | okay | 17:25 | 
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| @sonney2k | wiking, ping? | 18:45 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: pong | 18:55 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, what is the umask on your buildbot? | 18:57 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, do you already have access rights to edit the website? | 18:57 | 
| @sonney2k | s/buildbot/buildslave | 18:58 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: i dont' have access | 18:59 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, regarding static code analysis - what is the umask on your machine? | 19:08 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, I cannot give you rights from here (open wlan no ssl) | 19:11 | 
| @sonney2k | but will do from home | 19:11 | 
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| wiking | sonney2k: mm | 19:14 | 
| wiking | well no idea | 19:14 | 
| wiking | i mean that bot is ran by my user on that machine | 19:14 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking - just type umask | 19:15 | 
| @sonney2k | is it 0022 ? | 19:15 | 
| wiking | wiking@categorizer:~$ umask | 19:15 | 
| wiking | 0022 | 19:15 | 
| @sonney2k | hmmhh then no idea - we will use the chmod hack | 19:15 | 
| wiking | ok cool | 19:16 | 
| wiking | dunno why scanbuild does that | 19:16 | 
| wiking | :S | 19:16 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: so do u reckon i should re-port svmlight | 19:17 | 
| wiking | if i want that functionality? | 19:17 | 
| wiking | how the hack should i get out a given vector from a DotFeatures obj? :D | 19:18 | 
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| @sonney2k | n4nd0, hey there! | 19:24 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking can you login? | 19:25 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: hi! | 19:25 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, would you join heiko, blackburn to participate in the code sprint at googleplex beginning of december? | 19:25 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: it sounds like a great idea, I'd love it | 19:26 | 
| n4nd0 | let me check the exact dates | 19:26 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, we have to apply by IIRC Oct 25 so the sooner we know the better.... | 19:26 | 
| n4nd0 | 3-7 December sounds good | 19:27 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: and you said google pays housing so we have to take care of the plane and the other expenses there right? | 19:28 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, check the email... one can apply for travel funding | 19:28 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: yes, I want to join! | 19:31 | 
| wiking | fuuuuuckiiiing heeeellll | 19:31 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, what? | 19:33 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, cool | 19:33 | 
| @sonney2k | so then we will apply | 19:34 | 
| @sonney2k | i will ask chiyuan | 19:34 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: so, I understand we have to apply individually filling in this form https://sites.google.com/site/docsprintsummitv2/home/registration-form | 19:34 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, no | 19:34 | 
| n4nd0 | ok :S | 19:34 | 
| @sonney2k | organization applies | 19:34 | 
| @sonney2k | if accepted we request travel support | 19:34 | 
| n4nd0 | ok | 19:35 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: so how many persons do we need at least? | 19:37 | 
| n4nd0 | aham I see 'Each Book Sprint will bring together 5-8 individuals' | 19:40 | 
| @sonney2k | yeah as many as possible | 19:42 | 
| n4nd0 | who is in so far? | 19:44 | 
| @sonney2k | heiko,you,wiking,blackburn | 19:45 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: how are we going to prepare the application? | 19:45 | 
| @sonney2k | I am asking chiyuan | 19:46 | 
| @sonney2k | but of course things are not put in stone so it could be that blackburn doesn't get a visa etc | 19:46 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, I've changed the webiste quite a bit | 19:47 | 
| @sonney2k | look at http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/contact/contacts | 19:47 | 
| @sonney2k | and irclogs are now here http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/contact/irclog/2011-11-15/ | 19:50 | 
| n4nd0 | it's looking good I think | 19:51 | 
| n4nd0 | the order of the dates looks a little bit odd to me, http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/contact/irclogs/ | 19:52 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, what is wrong with it? | 19:53 | 
| @sonney2k | (I am currently writing a calendar widget for that though) | 19:54 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, ahh and http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/planet/shogun | 19:54 | 
| @sonney2k | we have planet shogun now on the main site | 19:54 | 
| @sonney2k | (former weblog) | 19:55 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: so there appears first some dates from 2012, later from 2011, later from 2012 again, etc | 19:56 | 
| n4nd0 | dinner time, I'll be back later | 19:58 | 
| -!- n4nd0 is now known as n4nd0_away | 19:58 | |
| @sonney2k | n4nd0_away, no longer :D | 19:58 | 
| -!- n4nd0_away is now known as n4nd0 | 20:14 | |
| n4nd0 | re | 20:14 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: yeah, now it is ordered :) | 20:14 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, but as I said I am writing some calendar widget - that will improve it a lot | 20:18 | 
| n4nd0 | cool | 20:18 | 
| n4nd0 | it sounds like a nice idea | 20:18 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: do you have a showcase to see how it will look like? | 20:19 | 
| @sonney2k | I am currently extending developer resources http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/dev/firststeps | 20:21 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, feel free to continue there | 20:21 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, thanks to winking we have some new buildbots in there :D | 20:21 | 
| @sonney2k | static code analysis | 20:21 | 
| @sonney2k | and travid | 20:21 | 
| @sonney2k | s | 20:21 | 
| n4nd0 | travids? | 20:22 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, and in case you have seen http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/planet/shogun - I've integrated the blog posts of you all on the main page reformatting things | 20:22 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, travis | 20:22 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, whenever you do a github PR it will build your commit and run tests | 20:22 | 
| @sonney2k | so we know before merge if you break anything | 20:22 | 
| n4nd0 | oh yeah, wiking showed me | 20:23 | 
| @sonney2k | the webpage still needs some improvement but it is getting useful | 20:24 | 
| @sonney2k | once done we can finally write/post the blog post | 20:26 | 
| n4nd0 | ok | 20:29 | 
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| pluskid | sad that doc sprint is conflicting with my final exams | 21:11 | 
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| blackburn | argh | 21:16 | 
| blackburn | -1 | 21:16 | 
| n4nd0 | too bad pluskid cannot make it :( | 21:19 | 
| wiking | baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazdmegaaaaaaaaaaaaa KUURVA ANYAD | 21:23 | 
| wiking | ok so i've got to the level where i know that i can classify :) | 21:23 | 
| wiking | other than that | 21:23 | 
| wiking | WTF | 21:23 | 
| wiking | blackburn: you've ever seen travis bot? | 21:24 | 
| wiking | :D | 21:24 | 
| blackburn | nope | 21:24 | 
| wiking | WTF | 21:25 | 
| wiking | blackburn: maybe it'll only come when it fails :D | 21:26 | 
| blackburn | wiking: yeah maybe | 21:31 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, try it ... | 21:33 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, I added some minimal dev page | 21:33 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: what toy example can I do for SO learning? I have no idea! | 21:53 | 
| n4nd0 | is there something hmm related maybe? | 21:54 | 
| wiking | sonney2k: tried... and added the link to travis ;) | 22:00 | 
| wiking | blackburn: http://boingboing.net/2012/10/19/math-journal-accepts-computer.html | 22:03 | 
| wiking | ;) | 22:03 | 
| blackburn | wiking: yeah I've seen that | 22:04 | 
| blackburn | and it is awful | 22:04 | 
| blackburn | :) | 22:04 | 
| wiking | heheh | 22:04 | 
| wiking | well paperfactory that is | 22:04 | 
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| wiking | it's like now i'm wriiting faster than my keyboard can handle\:> | 22:28 | 
| wiking | aaah blackburn u went away :( | 22:29 | 
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| wiking | blackburn: yELP | 22:44 | 
| blackburn | wiking: what's up? | 22:45 | 
| wiking | blackburn: dotfeatures | 22:45 | 
| wiking | need the feature vectors | 22:45 | 
| blackburn | dense? | 22:46 | 
| wiking | well that's the problem | 22:46 | 
| wiking | i shouldn't suppose that it's dense :D | 22:46 | 
| wiking | it could be sparse | 22:46 | 
| blackburn | when it shouldn't be dense feature | 22:47 | 
| blackburn | s | 22:47 | 
| blackburn | dot features I mean | 22:47 | 
| wiking | but if i want to support both: sparse/dense features? | 22:52 | 
| wiking | that's the only way i can do it :) | 22:53 | 
| wiking | or? | 22:53 | 
| blackburn | wiking: then you've got to assume model is dense | 22:57 | 
| blackburn | it is even if you work with sparse, right? | 22:57 | 
| blackburn | by mdoel I mean w | 22:57 | 
| blackburn | band b | 22:57 | 
| blackburn | and b | 22:57 | 
| wiking | but it could be that my features are sparse | 22:58 | 
| wiking | so why would i want to waste memory on a densefeatures object | 22:59 | 
| blackburn | features could be sparse but model is dense | 22:59 | 
| wiking | if my features are sparse | 22:59 | 
| wiking | this is really regardless of my model | 22:59 | 
| wiking | i have features | 22:59 | 
| wiking | that could be both sparse or dense | 22:59 | 
| blackburn | but still - do you really need to have feature vector? | 23:02 | 
| wiking | well the problem is that i have feature vectors cached | 23:03 | 
| wiking | in a dotfeatures object | 23:04 | 
| wiking | but i have to have reference at one point on a given feature within that cache | 23:04 | 
| blackburn | cachhed? | 23:05 | 
| blackburn | how? | 23:05 | 
| wiking | precalculated | 23:06 | 
| blackburn | I am not sure I understood you | 23:31 | 
| blackburn | wiking: so what do you exactly need? | 23:36 | 
| wiking | ife | 23:38 | 
| wiking | life | 23:38 | 
| wiking | :) | 23:38 | 
| blackburn | :D | 23:39 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, did you get email? | 23:48 | 
| @sonney2k | just now | 23:48 | 
| @sonney2k | ? | 23:48 | 
| @sonney2k | I created a @shogun-toolbox.org address for you | 23:48 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: hmm | 23:48 | 
| blackburn | yes | 23:48 | 
| blackburn | nice thanks | 23:48 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, you too | 23:50 | 
| @sonney2k | ? | 23:50 | 
| @sonney2k | n4nd0, you too... | 23:51 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, so you got it? | 23:51 | 
| blackburn | yes | 23:51 | 
| @sonney2k | ok | 23:51 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I've ordered a foreign passport | 23:51 | 
| @sonney2k | it is just a forward to your gmail address | 23:51 | 
| blackburn | once I get it I can order an interview at usa embassy | 23:51 | 
| @sonney2k | and you can use blackburn@ too | 23:51 | 
| @sonney2k | wiking, and you wiking and n4nd0 you n4nd0 too :) | 23:51 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, well we will apply and see... | 23:52 | 
| blackburn | yeah but I will need it anyway | 23:52 | 
| blackburn | if I want to visit you later for example | 23:52 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: do you think we should apply for harvest? | 23:53 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: can I send messages from that mail? | 23:55 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, sure go ahead | 23:58 | 
| @sonney2k | (for both) | 23:59 | 
| @sonney2k | though I cannot join the harvest thing | 23:59 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: not now though | 23:59 | 
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