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| blackburn | sonney2k: good | 09:10 | 
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| n4nd0 | hey | 16:19 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k, blackburn: we talked last week about meeting this evening again right? | 16:19 | 
| n4nd0 | I recall something about it | 16:19 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: ha, yes probably | 16:19 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: nice, I will be around here then from 22:00 or a little bit before | 16:20 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: http://google-opensource.blogspot.se/ have you seen the post about B-trees? | 16:22 | 
| blackburn | no, let me read it | 16:22 | 
| blackburn | quite nice | 16:23 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: if we used maps in tapkee I'd give it a go :) | 16:24 | 
| n4nd0 | hehe | 16:24 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: have you ever seen result of embedding promoter data? | 16:27 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: no, how is it? | 16:28 | 
| blackburn | in the plots_and_benchmark folder | 16:28 | 
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| n4nd0 | blackburn: let me see | 16:28 | 
| blackburn | interesting fact that 2d embedding that is computed by LLE reproduces one real axe - GC content | 16:28 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: let me compute and I will show a pic | 16:29 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: ok | 16:29 | 
| n4nd0 | I don't see that directory ^ | 16:29 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: JMLR/plots_and_benchmark in your dropbox | 16:30 | 
| n4nd0 | aaah ok dropbox, I was looking in github :D | 16:31 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: maybe I missed it | 16:42 | 
| n4nd0 | is the plot around? | 16:43 | 
| blackburn | doing | 16:43 | 
| n4nd0 | ok, sorry :) | 16:43 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: I tried first time without optimizations | 16:44 | 
| n4nd0 | slow? | 16:44 | 
| blackburn | yeah | 16:44 | 
| blackburn | more than twice slow | 16:44 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10139213/ml/promoter.png | 16:46 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: the x has R=-0.98 with GC% | 16:47 | 
| blackburn | GC is {# of {G or C}} divided by total number of nucleotides in chain | 16:47 | 
| blackburn | GC content is* | 16:47 | 
| blackburn | I was surprised to see that but bioinformatics elders said it is expected | 16:48 | 
| n4nd0 | mmm I see | 16:48 | 
| n4nd0 | I don't understand much about biology :S | 16:48 | 
| blackburn | do you think I do? | 16:49 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: hehe you know a lot about a lot ;) | 16:50 | 
| blackburn | I somehow manage to let people think I do :D | 16:51 | 
| n4nd0 | haha | 16:52 | 
| n4nd0 | ok gtg now, tty later | 16:52 | 
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| sumit | hey blackburn , my apologies , could not get much time today , am ready with the blueprint for how to implement rbm , however! | 17:34 | 
| sumit | blackburn i was wondering if you could provide me with your email address,so that I could mail you the proceedings for this in future | 17:35 | 
| blackburn | sumit: hey | 17:35 | 
| blackburn | you could use the mailing list or lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com | 17:35 | 
| sumit | blackburn are you there? | 17:38 | 
| blackburn | yes | 17:38 | 
| sumit | so well,,I was wondering how may I discuss the proceedings with you , should get better if I get to have your email address | 17:39 | 
| blackburn | hmm yes, use the mailing list or my email lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com | 17:40 | 
| blackburn | the mailing list is better for something that is going to be public | 17:40 | 
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| sumit | I am sorry blackburn , I had lost the connection,may I have your email address again,I ll be mailing you the format in a couple of minutes | 17:48 | 
| blackburn | (08:40:12 PM) blackburn: hmm yes, use the mailing list or my email lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com | 17:49 | 
| blackburn | (08:40:25 PM) blackburn: the mailing list is better for something that is going to be public | 17:49 | 
| sumit | cool got it ! I just wanted you to approve of the format first hence wanted to get to you at your email address,I shall try coming up with the code in aweek's time | 17:51 | 
| sumit | thanks :) | 17:51 | 
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| n4nd0 | blackburn: so what do you think about the workshop program? | 21:02 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: I don't know.. I am ok with it anyway :) | 21:02 | 
| n4nd0 | :) | 21:02 | 
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| blackburn | the christian | 21:03 | 
| cwidmer | hi all | 21:03 | 
| blackburn | hey | 21:03 | 
| cwidmer | what's going on? | 21:03 | 
| n4nd0 | hi cwidmer! how is it going? | 21:03 | 
| blackburn | nothing to be honest | 21:03 | 
| cwidmer | going alright, tons of stuff to do | 21:03 | 
| cwidmer | just moved into a new place | 21:04 | 
| n4nd0 | cool, in NY? | 21:04 | 
| cwidmer | yeah | 21:04 | 
| blackburn | cwidmer: we should talk altogether with n4nd0 about tapkee stuff I think :) | 21:04 | 
| cwidmer | closer to work, nicer view | 21:04 | 
| blackburn | do you have some time? | 21:04 | 
| n4nd0 | I have it :) | 21:04 | 
| cwidmer | well, not too much, but I can do 15min | 21:04 | 
| cwidmer | how about the workshop meeting? | 21:05 | 
| cwidmer | didn't we agree on... now? | 21:05 | 
| n4nd0 | I have no idea if we were supposed to meet at 21 or 22 (local time) | 21:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: ping | 21:05 | 
| cwidmer | ah, ok | 21:05 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, pong | 21:05 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: meeting! | 21:05 | 
| @sonney2k | I have no news - will have a phone conf next week with gunnar about the WS | 21:06 | 
| @sonney2k | but IMHO what we have is perfectly fine | 21:06 | 
| @sonney2k | and people expect some minor changes to the program anyways | 21:06 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I added that Q about skills | 21:06 | 
| blackburn | check that out | 21:06 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, btw - we should ask about the level of participants | 21:06 | 
| n4nd0 | sure | 21:06 | 
| @sonney2k | ok | 21:07 | 
| blackburn | cwidmer: n4nd0 too | 21:07 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: checking, the form right? | 21:07 | 
| @sonney2k | I missed the c-base meeting. Next is on the 14th | 21:07 | 
| blackburn | I added 4 possible answers | 21:07 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: yes | 21:07 | 
| blackburn | right after institution IIRC | 21:07 | 
| @sonney2k | only interesting question would be if alexlovesdata would manage to get TU booked for some hands on days | 21:08 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: exactly | 21:08 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: I think the form is looking good | 21:08 | 
| blackburn | well if all of you think so lets post it massively starting from some day and let me answer mails | 21:09 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: the new Q it is not as particular as I think sonney2k (e.g. have you trained any SVM/GP), but I think it is good like this too | 21:09 | 
| cwidmer | blackburn, can you show the form? | 21:10 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: count on me to share the load of answering if it becomes too much ;) | 21:10 | 
| cwidmer | how much will it cost for participants? | 21:10 | 
| blackburn | cwidmer: here you go https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEFoS0Q2U19qYkdjT2VReFNvNDBoclE6MQ | 21:10 | 
| n4nd0 | cwidmer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEFoS0Q2U19qYkdjT2VReFNvNDBoclE6MQ | 21:10 | 
| cwidmer | nice | 21:10 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: you are the fastest around here :P | 21:10 | 
| blackburn | lol | 21:10 | 
| cwidmer | again, for what would you like to discuss I would really link add something like (unconference style) with a link to wikipedia | 21:11 | 
| blackburn | I do not understand that much | 21:11 | 
| cwidmer | ok, so no news otherwise sonney2k? | 21:12 | 
| blackburn | cwidmer: what should I add? | 21:12 | 
| cwidmer | What do you want to discuss? --> What do you want to discuss (unconference session (link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconference)? | 21:13 | 
| cwidmer | unless this is the podium discussion | 21:13 | 
| cwidmer | I mean we have two discussion sessions, I guess | 21:13 | 
| cwidmer | one podium | 21:13 | 
| blackburn | okay let me do that | 21:13 | 
| cwidmer | one in small groups | 21:13 | 
| cwidmer | not sure, which one you're referring to | 21:13 | 
| blackburn | cwidmer: okay added | 21:16 | 
| cwidmer | awesome | 21:18 | 
| @sonney2k | IMHO we should discuss once I had this call with gunanr | 21:18 | 
| @sonney2k | cwidmer, knows how hard it is to catch gunnar these days... | 21:19 | 
| @sonney2k | cwidmer, btw did you tell him? | 21:19 | 
| n4nd0 | everyone gone here? :D | 21:23 | 
| blackburn | hah | 21:23 | 
| cwidmer | ok | 21:24 | 
| cwidmer | just talked to gunnar | 21:24 | 
| cwidmer | and he says yes(*) | 21:24 | 
| cwidmer | (*) details have to be figured out, especially wrt preparation time for slides etc | 21:25 | 
| cwidmer | sonney2k ping | 21:25 | 
| @sonney2k | cwidmer, ? | 21:27 | 
| @sonney2k | anyway no news from my side so I will keep you updated once I have more | 21:27 | 
| cwidmer | ok, great | 21:27 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, btw we should use our shogun-ws mailinglist for QA | 21:27 | 
| cwidmer | so gunnar is in | 21:27 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: I am ok with it | 21:28 | 
| @sonney2k | as in everyone can send an email to this address and any of us can reply | 21:28 | 
| @sonney2k | (using this address as from:) | 21:28 | 
| blackburn | sonney2k: but actually we should go away from mailing list | 21:28 | 
| cwidmer | let me know once everything is settled, so we can start advertising | 21:28 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: why so? going away from mailing list | 21:28 | 
| blackburn | to something stackoverflow like | 21:28 | 
| blackburn | comparing to something SO-like it is impossible to find something discussed on mailing list | 21:29 | 
| cwidmer | metaoptimize? | 21:29 | 
| blackburn | cwidmer: yes | 21:29 | 
| cwidmer | I know the guy, btw | 21:29 | 
| cwidmer | met him at pydata | 21:29 | 
| cwidmer | I mean, we could monitor sites like that for a shogun tag | 21:30 | 
| @sonney2k | blackburn, just google shogun toolbox stackoverflow | 21:31 | 
| @sonney2k | anyways cu guys I need some rest | 21:32 | 
| cwidmer | n8n8 | 21:32 | 
| n4nd0 | sonney2k: night | 21:32 | 
| n4nd0 | cwidmer, blackburn : so let's talk about tapkee for a little while? | 21:36 | 
| blackburn | yeah | 21:36 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: chris said to me already that he is busy till 13th | 21:38 | 
| n4nd0 | ok | 21:39 | 
| cwidmer | n4nd0, I have an important deadline coming up, but after that I'm willing to help you guys push this out | 21:39 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: during these days I will update the web info about PCA and KPCA | 21:39 | 
| n4nd0 | cwidmer: cool | 21:39 | 
| blackburn | hmm that's nice n4nd0 - I'd appreciate help with website | 21:40 | 
| n4nd0 | cwidmer: good luck for you deadline btw! (I am guessing some paper submission) | 21:40 | 
| cwidmer | it's a contribution to a vapnik 75th birthday "book" | 21:42 | 
| cwidmer | paper collection | 21:42 | 
| blackburn | n4nd0: cwidmer: so I do benchmarks again | 21:43 | 
| blackburn | put them to table | 21:43 | 
| blackburn | then once cwidmer has more spare time we pass through paper | 21:44 | 
| blackburn | and then submit | 21:44 | 
| n4nd0 | it sounds like a good plan | 21:44 | 
| n4nd0 | I am off for a shower, I will be back later | 21:48 | 
| blackburn | okay | 21:48 | 
| cwidmer | ok, guys, I'm off | 21:52 | 
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| wiking | yo | 22:54 | 
| wiking | sorry guys i was so out for these 2 months but had some family stuff going on + writing papers. buuuuut now it's shogun time | 22:55 | 
| wiking | :> | 22:55 | 
| blackburn | wiking: hey | 23:29 | 
| blackburn | is it better? | 23:29 | 
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