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| lambday | hello.. this is soumyajit.. I have been trying with string kernels... was using fisher's protein homology detection data (http://compbio.soe.ucsc.edu/discriminative/fisher-scop-data.tar.gz)... | 16:18 | 
| lambday | got an error "ALPHABET does not contain all symbols in histogram"... even after removing the sequences which contained something other than [A-Z]... | 16:19 | 
| lambday | was using PROTEIN alphabet... | 16:19 | 
| lambday | when I ran it with ALPHANUM, it worked... but none of the sequences had any digits | 16:20 | 
| lambday | and also, is the string subsequence kernel (http://jmlr.csail.mit.edu/papers/volume2/lodhi02a/lodhi02a.pdf or something similar) implemented in shogun? I was looking at the string kernels but couldn't find out :( | 16:28 | 
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| blackburn | hey n4nd0 | 20:25 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: hi | 20:28 | 
| n4nd0 | blackburn: how is it going? | 20:28 | 
| blackburn | pretty fine | 20:28 | 
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| nona994 | Hi, I am desprate to work with WeightedDegreeRBFKernel but I can't figure its variables out. I went through its source code but it seems rather impossible to make a connection. | 21:25 | 
| blackburn | nona994: hi nona | 21:29 | 
| blackburn | nona994: what are your features? | 21:30 | 
| blackburn | nona994: weighted degree rbf works with dense real-valued features only | 21:30 | 
| nona994 | can you please explain what is a dense real-valued feature. I guess it's a matrix right? | 21:34 | 
| blackburn | nona994: exactly | 21:34 | 
| blackburn | just dense matrix | 21:34 | 
| nona994 | n by n matrix right? | 21:35 | 
| nona994 | these are arguaments for wd RBF 'int32_t size: is cache size, float64_t w: is ???, int32_t d: is degree for wd kernel, int32_t nof_prop: ??' | 21:37 | 
| blackburn | nona994: no, n_features by n_vectors | 21:37 | 
| blackburn | nona994: w is width (in means of exponential parameter coefficient) | 21:38 | 
| blackburn | line 102 in .cpp | 21:38 | 
| blackburn | nof_prop - 'number of properties' but not sure what it means | 21:39 | 
| blackburn | I am afraid it is quite experimental | 21:40 | 
| blackburn | if sonney2k was here he could tell us | 21:40 | 
| nona994 | I see How can I pass a dense features | 21:40 | 
| nona994 | Yes sure, he is the Oracle here | 21:42 | 
| blackburn | nona994: is that a question about dense features? | 21:43 | 
| nona994 | yes | 21:44 | 
| nona994 | no | 21:44 | 
| nona994 | I mean since you said it works with dense features I want to know how can I pass this dens feature | 21:45 | 
| blackburn | I am confused | 21:45 | 
| blackburn | well if you have real valued features just use it | 21:45 | 
| blackburn | what is the data you are working with? | 21:45 | 
| nona994 | I have protein sequences | 21:45 | 
| nona994 | say they are strings | 21:46 | 
| blackburn | so you have no real-valued features I guess | 21:46 | 
| nona994 | nop | 21:46 | 
| blackburn | then it looks quite impossible to use that kernel | 21:47 | 
| nona994 | weighted degree (wd) works with strings and wd rbf include some specific measurement (real value) for each character or in my case amino acid | 21:48 | 
| blackburn | in current implementation it just uses something similar to weighted degree kernel but for real values so I am unsure | 21:49 | 
| nona994 | ok | 21:51 | 
| nona994 | you are saying instead of strings it uses real-valued features and does the same computations and everything? | 21:53 | 
| blackburn | nona994: yes | 21:53 | 
| nona994 | so if I initiate it with a real-valued matrix as TRAINing set it has to work | 21:54 | 
| nona994 | what is the difference between line 24 and 31 why dense features have l and r? | 21:56 | 
| blackburn | nona994: treat it as rows and cols | 21:57 | 
| blackburn | nona994: say l has 5 features | 21:57 | 
| blackburn | err | 21:58 | 
| blackburn | 5 vectors | 21:58 | 
| blackburn | and r has 3 vectors | 21:58 | 
| blackburn | then kernel matrix is 5 x 3 | 21:58 | 
| nona994 | you mean dense features is 5 x 3 | 21:59 | 
| blackburn | nona994: no, matrix of kernel between l and r is 5 x 3 | 21:59 | 
| nona994 | i have got no idea about dense features :( | 22:10 | 
| blackburn | nona994: well images, etc | 22:21 | 
| blackburn | they are examples of dense features | 22:21 | 
| nona994 | Are off to find them | 22:26 | 
| nona994 | many thanks | 22:26 | 
| nona994 | I am off to find them | 22:26 | 
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