IRC logs of #shogun for Saturday, 2013-03-02

--- Log opened Sat Mar 02 00:00:57 2013
shogun-buildbot_build #302 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/30200:11
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shogun-buildbot_build #303 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/30300:38
shogun-buildbot_build #267 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/267  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>01:35
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shogun-buildbot_build #717 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/717  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>03:09
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shogun-buildbot_build #304 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/30404:02
shogun-buildbot_build #856 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/856  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>04:08
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shogun-buildbot_build #305 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed tutorial]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/30505:54
shogun-buildbot_build #733 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/733  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>08:48
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shogun-buildbot_build #718 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/718  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>12:57
shogun-buildbot_build #257 of ubu1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ubu1%20-%20libshogun/builds/257  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>12:58
shogun-buildbot_build #268 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/26813:05
shogun-buildbot_build #306 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/30613:11
shogun-buildbot_build #734 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/73413:17
shogun-buildbot_build #857 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/857  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>13:33
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alexlovesdataaehm ... I just checked the example for python_modular fir randomfouriergausspreproc16:50
alexlovesdatait makes no sense as it applies a chi2 kernel on the preprocessed features16:50
alexlovesdatai will change these examples so that the make sense16:51
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shogun-buildbot_build #307 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed tutorial]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/30719:19
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :master * f7d5441 / / (7 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/f7d5441cf342ddfbb0eb9dd5bf05b93ccb6d8fa720:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fixed Factor Analysis integration20:22
shogun-notifier-shogun:20:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: - Fixed bug with unset features20:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: - Added Factor Analysis to modular interfaces20:22
shogun-buildbot_build #719 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/71920:34
shogun-buildbot_build #720 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/720  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>20:34
shogun-buildbot_build #258 of ubu1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ubu1%20-%20libshogun/builds/25820:49
@sonney2kblackburn1, around?20:59
blackburn1sonney2k: yes20:59
blackburn1sonney2k: what's up?21:01
@sonney2kblackbeard1: I am wondering how we could do debian packages21:02
@sonney2kI am tempted to split up shogun into libshogun / libshogun-dev packages21:03
blackburn1sonney2k: well you probably know more about it - what is concrete problem?21:03
blackburn1hmm21:03
blackburn1dev to store only headers?21:03
@sonney2kblackburn1, yes exactly21:04
@sonney2kthat is how it is done now21:04
@sonney2kin the debian pacakges21:04
@sonney2kbut difference comes now:21:04
blackburn1sonney2k: is there any advantage of doing that?21:04
@sonney2kI would not attempt to compile all the shogun interfaces21:04
@sonney2kyes21:04
@sonney2kwe dont' have a zillion of dependencies21:05
@sonney2kso if some interface (say octave-modular) has a dependency that cannot be satisfied due to whatever octave bug21:05
@sonney2kthe rest of shogun will stay in debian21:05
blackburn1shogun-dev shogun-java shogun-python21:05
blackburn1etc?21:05
blackburn1sonney2k: then what is the question?21:06
@sonney2kso I would take our shogun src/ dir and remove shogun from it and only keep a *single* interface directory21:06
@sonney2kthen build the interface based on that and the installed libshogun-dev package21:07
@sonney2kyeah and I would remove all of the shogun-python-static whatever21:08
@sonney2kand replace it with shogun-static (which would just be elwms)21:08
blackburn1sonney2k: so idea is just to unite all static things into one?21:08
@sonney2kso libshogun, libshogun-dev, shogun-static, shogun-python, shogun-lua, ... etc21:09
@sonney2kblackburn1, yeah or even not ship any static interface as debian package21:09
blackburn1sonney2k: so static won't available using .deb at all?21:10
@sonney2kblackburn1, what would be a reason to keep it?21:12
blackburn1sonney2k: I am afraid people still use it21:13
@sonney2kso we force them to move then21:14
blackburn1sonney2k: matlab?21:14
@sonney2kthe only thing that is not working is R21:14
@sonney2kand screw matlab21:15
@sonney2kno one is using this21:15
blackburn1sonney2k: I am afraid they do21:15
blackburn1sonney2k: according to mailing list - it appears sometimes21:15
blackburn1and a lot of research code in matlab21:15
blackburn1sonney2k: but yes I want to get rid of it21:15
@sonney2kyeah but what of shogun is available in static interfaces21:16
@sonney2klike 5% of the features?21:16
blackburn1sonney2k: yeah good old features from the old shogun21:16
@sonney2kbasically train svm21:16
@sonney2kthat's it21:16
blackburn1sonney2k: some oligoblablaweightedkernels21:17
@sonney2kyeah sure almost all kernels + svms21:17
@sonney2kblackburn1, maybe we should just mark these interfaces 'deprecated' with the 2.1 release21:19
blackburn1sonney2k: yeah21:19
shogun-buildbot_build #858 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/85821:19
@sonney2kso these will no longer be automatically enabled w/ configure21:20
@sonney2kand when enabled you get a big fat warning21:20
blackburn1sonney2k: yeah makes sense to me21:21
@sonney2kblackburn1, do you remember when we had the last feature improvement for static ?21:22
@sonney2kor fix even?21:22
blackburn1sonney2k: yes, last winter21:22
@sonney2k2 or 3 years ago?21:22
blackburn1sonney2k: I added support for my stupid algorithms21:22
@sonney2kyour dr stuff21:22
blackburn1exactly21:23
@sonney2kbut apart from that?21:23
blackburn1sonney2k: may be some fixes before yes21:24
blackburn1hmm I discovered some bug21:24
blackburn1sonney2k: I'd like to get more feedback from bioinformaticians21:25
@sonney2k?21:26
blackburn1sonney2k: well we should not get general but lose bioinf part21:26
blackburn1maybe workshop will help with it21:27
blackburn1uh I catched a bug21:30
blackburn1sonney2k: when will you get back?21:31
@sonney2kmid next week though I don't know if I will have time just then21:36
blackburn1sonney2k: we need to announce WS soon I think21:41
blackburn1I will start writing a GSoC proposal soon too21:41
@sonney2kblackburn1, I agree - issue is that I cannot get in touch w/ gunnar21:42
blackburn1sonney2k: what do you need to discuss?21:43
@sonney2kand that is pretty problematic - he is our tutorial ml speaker right ...21:43
blackburn1ah alright21:44
shogun-notifier-shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :master * 18399b7 / src/shogun/converter/MultidimensionalScaling.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/18399b7f97b7b63793180d3e71d60ae3822c9f9821:47
shogun-notifier-shogun: Handled case of exceeding number of landmarks in landmark mds21:47
shogun-buildbot_build #721 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/72121:57
@sonney2kblackburn1, when do we have to send in the gsoc proposal?21:59
blackburn1sonney2k: 28 march IIRC21:59
blackburn1sonney2k: 18 start, 29 end22:01
blackburn1sonney2k: april 1-5 -- review22:01
blackburn1sonney2k: april 8 - announce of accepted orgs22:01
blackburn1sonney2k: april 22 - may 3 -- students proposal submission22:02
@sonney2kblackburn1, try to not do it last minute...22:18
blackburn1sonney2k: will start next week22:18
blackburn1be back later22:18
shogun-buildbot_build #860 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/860  blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>22:22
@sonney2kcu22:23
shogun-buildbot_build #260 of ubu1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ubu1%20-%20libshogun/builds/260  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>22:39
shogun-buildbot_build #859 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/859  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>22:45
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shogun-buildbot_build #261 of ubu1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/ubu1%20-%20libshogun/builds/261  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>23:16
--- Log closed Sun Mar 03 00:00:58 2013

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