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medeeiip | hello.......... | 01:08 |
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medeeiip | Actually after a whole day.... my working for porting shogun to windows was hopeless | 01:08 |
medeeiip | though I've one good thing | 01:09 |
medeeiip | I've created a CMakeList | 01:09 |
medeeiip | through which effecient working on windows is possible.... | 01:09 |
medeeiip | actually It should be possible in every cmake supported platform.... though I've not tested..... | 01:10 |
medeeiip | on other platform | 01:13 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #356 of nightly_default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/356 | 04:05 |
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Yanglittle | hey, i run './configure --interfaces=libshogun,libshogunui,python_modular' and it says unknown interfaces libshogun | 04:31 |
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foulwall | Hello, sonney2k | 05:22 |
foulwall | I'm Zhengyang Liu... you're sleeping? | 05:23 |
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@sonney2k | foulwall, I am just about to go to work will ping you back in a few minutes | 07:18 |
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foulwall | sonney2k: Just back from class, I'll be online waiting you . | 08:10 |
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n4nd0 | hey foulwall, I read you are waiting for sonney2k | 08:37 |
n4nd0 | maybe I can help you in the meantime? | 08:37 |
foulwall | hey n4nd0, I've talked to sonny2k on email for GSoC topic "Interactive Demos", and he'll arranged my futher work... | 08:39 |
n4nd0 | foulwall: Ok, sure. Good luck with it then :) | 08:40 |
foulwall | Thank you n4nd0 | 08:40 |
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abinashpanda | I have a doubt regarding the application for GSoC 2013 that whether it is compulsary to submit patches | 08:57 |
n4nd0 | abinashpanda: yes, it is. | 08:58 |
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abinashpanda | I have found an open issue "Create a nice example for GP-regression" | 08:58 |
abinashpanda | does submit code for this would suffice the need | 08:59 |
abinashpanda | ? | 08:59 |
n4nd0 | abinashpanda: students you should use that they are able to build shogun in their systems and to use git workflow by submitting patches | 08:59 |
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abinashpanda | Ok | 08:59 |
n4nd0 | abinashpanda: There is no specific number of contributions you need to do in order to get accepted. It is mainly common sense - the more you contribute, the more likely it is you will be selected. | 08:59 |
abinashpanda | Ok, then could you please guide me through the total process of patch submission and review,etc | 09:01 |
n4nd0 | abinashpanda: are you used to using git and github? | 09:01 |
abinashpanda | yes I am used to git and github | 09:02 |
n4nd0 | ok | 09:02 |
n4nd0 | then fork shogun, clone locally | 09:02 |
abinashpanda | ok | 09:02 |
n4nd0 | set up git flow (we have just established this development process, see mailing list for more info) | 09:03 |
n4nd0 | do a patch and a pull request | 09:03 |
abinashpanda | ok | 09:03 |
abinashpanda | Thank You | 09:04 |
n4nd0 | you are welcome | 09:04 |
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sonne|work | foulwall: sorry it took so long I forgot sth at home and had to go back... | 09:09 |
medeeiip | hello everyone, after a whole day.... my working for porting shogun to windows was quite hopeless..... | 09:09 |
medeeiip | though i've 1 good thing | 09:09 |
medeeiip | i've a complete cmakelist | 09:09 |
sonne|work | medeeiip: what is not working? | 09:09 |
medeeiip | in windows...... almost every math function is throwing error | 09:10 |
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medeeiip | some templates are giving prob | 09:11 |
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medeeiip | sonne|work: I've alomost complete cmake.... should i submit it? | 09:15 |
sonne|work | medeeiip: isn't there a cmake list already? | 09:15 |
medeeiip | yes there is..................... but in the cmake there is only two lines...... and in this channel.... i's told a couple of days earlier that the cmake here is far from complete.......... | 09:17 |
medeeiip | actually | 09:17 |
medeeiip | the camke was just | 09:17 |
medeeiip | min_req(2.8) | 09:17 |
medeeiip | add_proj(shogun) | 09:18 |
medeeiip | so, it wasn't working | 09:18 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: Have you got to work all shogun with cmake? | 09:19 |
medeeiip | yes....in my windows system my cmakelist done everything smoothly....... | 09:20 |
medeeiip | config file created | 09:20 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: Do you happen to have the chance to try it out in linux as well? | 09:20 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: if not you can put it somewhere and I can try it now | 09:21 |
medeeiip | Ok!............ i'm sending the link of my forked git copy | 09:21 |
n4nd0 | pastebin may turn out to be useful for this | 09:22 |
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medeeiip | n4nd0:https://github.com/medeep/shogun | 09:28 |
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medeeiip | 1 point......... I could not add installation prefix of lzo2 and gzip..... | 09:29 |
medeeiip | and as of now .... no xml.... though I'can add it.. within a couple of hour ( i think....) | 09:32 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: https://github.com/medeep/shogun/blob/master/src/CMakeLists.txt is this the cmake you have modified? | 09:33 |
sonne|work | medeeiip: ok I see | 09:34 |
medeeiip | yes...... | 09:34 |
foulwall | sonne|work: hi! | 09:34 |
foulwall | sonne|work: I'm looking for what i can do next | 09:35 |
sonne|work | foulwall: hey there! | 09:35 |
sonne|work | nice work - I looked at your demo | 09:36 |
sonne|work | you might not need to store stuff in mysql but just internally in some .js array | 09:36 |
sonne|work | and then add some button to submit the data | 09:36 |
foulwall | sonne|work: Hmm | 09:37 |
sonne|work | that then does the json transmission | 09:37 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: so I've just run cmake here and there were some errors | 09:37 |
medeeiip | can you tell me what? | 09:37 |
sonne|work | then on the server side you receive all these points | 09:37 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: in case I did something wrong. I cd to src, created build directory, cd to build and cmake .. | 09:37 |
medeeiip | have you copied the CMake directory? | 09:38 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: no, I only did what I have told you :) where should I copy it? | 09:39 |
sonne|work | foulwall: then you could run shogun on the server | 09:39 |
sonne|work | foulwall: http://shogun-toolbox.org/doc/en/current/python_modular_examples.html#python_modular_regression_examples | 09:39 |
sonne|work | regression_libsvr_modular.py | 09:39 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: I think what I did is the normal practice to build a project with cmake | 09:39 |
sonne|work | feeding it this data on input | 09:39 |
foulwall | sonne|work: ok! | 09:39 |
medeeiip | yes...... but I made things moduler | 09:39 |
sonne|work | foulwall: there is also a graphical example for that which you should have a look at | 09:39 |
medeeiip | and there is some script inside | 09:40 |
foulwall | sonne|work: easy to do that, and return a graphic feedback? | 09:40 |
medeeiip | src/CMake | 09:40 |
sonne|work | python_modular/graphical/interactive_svr_demo.py | 09:40 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: tell me how should I build it then | 09:40 |
sonne|work | foulwall: so you could then just apply the learned model to the current x range | 09:40 |
medeeiip | either copy the dir named CMake into src | 09:40 |
sonne|work | and plot a the learned curve | 09:40 |
medeeiip | or copy the whole rpo from git | 09:41 |
sonne|work | foulwall: yes exactly | 09:41 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: I have copied your whole repo from git | 09:41 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: not just the CMakeLists.txt of course | 09:41 |
foulwall | sonne|work: Ok, give me a few hours and i'll show you the demo. | 09:42 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: I have cloned your repo locally and done the steps I told you above | 09:42 |
sonne|work | foulwall: would be cool! | 09:42 |
medeeiip | n4nd0: ok! then pls...... allow me a couple of hour......I'm testing it on a linux machine.... | 09:42 |
medeeiip | n4nd0: btw can you tell me what is the error? | 09:43 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: sure, no need to rush :) | 09:43 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: http://pastebin.com/vv55VxFJ | 09:43 |
medeeiip | n4nd0: thank you... | 09:44 |
n4nd0 | sonne|work: hi, Heiko pointed out that the more linkin GSoC in the homepage lead to a wrong place. I pushed sth to shogun-web | 09:45 |
sonne|work | n4nd0: where did it point to? | 09:45 |
n4nd0 | sonne|work: examples | 09:45 |
* sonne|work checks | 09:45 | |
sonne|work | ohh | 09:46 |
sonne|work | we have to make that examples link stuff much better | 09:46 |
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medeeiip | n4nd0: do you have hdf5 installed? | 10:08 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: yes | 10:12 |
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n4nd0 | medeeiip: the configure script in Shogun detects it well here | 10:19 |
medeeiip | n4nd0: then i've make the install path available to cmake explicitically.... | 10:20 |
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blackburn | sonne|work: I came with better syntax for tapkee API | 10:38 |
blackburn | with(eigenMethod = Arpack, neighborsMethod = CoverTree) | 10:38 |
blackburn | sonne|work: would you think it is C++? | 10:38 |
sonne|work | no python | 10:38 |
blackburn | sonne|work: I have a solution to do that in C++ | 10:38 |
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sonne|work | MACRO magic? | 10:39 |
blackburn | sonne|work: no just override operator,() | 10:39 |
blackburn | sonne|work: and static structs as keywords | 10:41 |
blackburn | that implement operator=(..) | 10:41 |
sonne|work | unreadable C++ but nice syntax :D | 10:43 |
blackburn | sonne|work: well it is PITA for developers but nice for users | 10:44 |
shrey | Hi, sonney2k. | 10:44 |
blackburn | sonne|work: I'd definitely not use it in shogun API but I am excited to know it is possible | 10:44 |
blackburn | and I'll use it in tapkee | 10:45 |
sonne|work | Hi shrey! | 10:45 |
shrey | hi sonne|work. i had rustled up a mockup based on my conversation with sonney2k. | 10:45 |
shrey | i would like you to have a look at it.i have created a repo on github. | 10:46 |
sonne|work | shrey: yeah that's me too :) | 10:46 |
blackburn | haha | 10:46 |
blackburn | uhuha | 10:46 |
sonne|work | shrey, nice work btw :) | 10:46 |
shrey | okay | 10:46 |
shrey | thank you. | 10:46 |
sonne|work | what you could do is this http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/about/examples | 10:46 |
sonne|work | down below in applications | 10:47 |
sonne|work | we have this flash thingy | 10:47 |
sonne|work | where one can paint a digit | 10:47 |
sonne|work | and it will recognize the digit | 10:47 |
shrey | yes. | 10:47 |
sonne|work | so basically you allow free hand drawing with the mouse | 10:48 |
shrey | okay | 10:48 |
sonne|work | and then scale it down to 16x16 pixel matrix like you have | 10:49 |
sonne|work | shrey: or a bit easier - you would create a colorful matrix plot like this here http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/about/examples | 10:50 |
blackburn | have you all guys seen http://www.agner.org/optimize/? | 10:50 |
sonne|work | so you have say 100x100 bigger pixels and these all get some color value | 10:50 |
shrey | i am sorry but i dont see the colorful matrix plot. | 10:51 |
sonne|work | instead of pixels I meant blocks | 10:51 |
sonne|work | shrey: http://shogun-toolbox.org/static/figures/reduced/MatlabDemo300x100.png | 10:51 |
shrey | okay | 10:52 |
sonne|work | http://shogun-toolbox.org/bigpicture/krr.png | 10:52 |
sonne|work | shrey: ^ | 10:52 |
sonne|work | this is from some shogun example but done with matplotlib | 10:52 |
sonne|work | http://matplotlib.org/ | 10:52 |
shrey | ok. | 10:53 |
shrey | but if all the blocks get the same coulour value, then how will the image show up? | 10:55 |
shrey | *color | 10:56 |
sonne|work | shrey: no they don't get all the same color | 10:56 |
sonne|work | each block gets a different one | 10:56 |
shrey | okay. | 10:56 |
shrey | on it. | 11:01 |
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shaumik | hi! | 11:21 |
n4nd0 | hey shaumik | 11:21 |
shaumik | i am interested in developing ml demos, and i just sent an introduction mail | 11:21 |
shaumik | i just wanted to know if there are any patches i need to submit first | 11:21 |
n4nd0 | very good | 11:21 |
n4nd0 | shaumik: yes, you need to submit patches as part of your GSoC application | 11:22 |
shaumik | since this is a django based project, should i submit a python related patch? | 11:22 |
shaumik | and as I am new to machine learning, is there anything easy to do? | 11:23 |
n4nd0 | shaumik: you could start by doing some demo, so you can use python or d3.js | 11:24 |
shaumik | i am comfortable in python, but i haven't used d3.js before. | 11:24 |
n4nd0 | shaumik: maybe some binary classification example is good to start | 11:24 |
shaumik | i haven't yet cloned the repository, could you tell me how to proceed. | 11:26 |
shaumik | i have forked it on github, and will clone it of course | 11:26 |
shaumik | what i mean is that should i make the demo as a part of shogun | 11:26 |
n4nd0 | shaumik: if you have already made the fork then just do | 11:26 |
shaumik | one more thing, would the project be a different project in django altogether? | 11:27 |
n4nd0 | git clone git://github.com/<your github username>/shogun.git | 11:27 |
n4nd0 | shaumik: I don't understand what you mean in the last question | 11:27 |
shaumik | i think i should just read on binary classification first, | 11:28 |
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Yanglittle | Hey, I run the mkl_multiclass_modular.py, it says 'could not convert string to float' at lm.load_numbers | 11:35 |
n4nd0 | Yanglittle: Hi! It seems to run fine here. I guess you changed the input data, didn't you? | 11:37 |
Yanglittle | NO, I download it from here: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-data/tree/master/toy | 11:38 |
n4nd0 | Yanglittle: are you giving strings? It seems that in the files fm_train_real.dat and fm_test_real.dat the input are numbers | 11:39 |
Yanglittle | I did nothing | 11:39 |
sonne|work | Yanglittle: if you use git | 11:40 |
sonne|work | you could just have done | 11:40 |
sonne|work | git pull | 11:40 |
sonne|work | and then | 11:40 |
n4nd0 | Yanglittle: can you copy somehwere the version of mkl_multiclass_modular you are using | 11:40 |
sonne|work | git submodule update --init | 11:40 |
medeeiip__ | n4nd0: I've updatd the cmakelist and currently i've tested it under ubuntu 12..... it worked... | 11:45 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip__: good | 11:45 |
Yanglittle | the newest version 2.1.0 and the error info is :Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/liyang/shogun/examples/documented/python_modular/mkl_multiclass_modular.py", line 21, in <module> fm_train_real = lm.load_numbers('/home/liyang/shogun/data/fm_train_real.dat') File "/home/liyang/shogun/examples/documented/python_modular/tools/load.py", line 11, in load_numbers return loadtxt(filename).T File "/usr/lib/pyth | 11:45 |
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n4nd0 | Yanglittle: mmm I cannot see the name of the error in that line | 11:48 |
Yanglittle | items = [conv(val) for (conv, val) in zip(converters, vals)] ValueError: could not convert string to float: <!DOCTYPE the last two lines | 11:50 |
Yanglittle | sorry | 11:50 |
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shrey | sonney2k , have a look at cells.html at https://github.com/shrey-rajvanshi/shogun | 12:15 |
shrey | d3/cells.html or check the demo. | 12:16 |
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n4nd0 | shaumik: can it be seen somewhere directly or do we have to run it locally? I am curious to see :) | 12:18 |
n4nd0 | oh sorry, that was for shrey | 12:18 |
n4nd0 | shrey: ^ | 12:18 |
shrey | i think my server is down.run it locally if u can | 12:18 |
shaumik | haha, i was wondering how i got a reply :P | 12:18 |
blackburn | shrey: it would be much better if you use some hosting for that | 12:19 |
blackburn | shrey: heroku or github pages are easy and working ways to do that | 12:19 |
shrey | yes.i did use some free hosting, which is not working. i l upload it to a different place in a few minutes. | 12:19 |
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n4nd0 | shrey: cells is looking nice :) | 12:23 |
shrey | it is up on http://www.bits-apogee.org/test/shogun/cells.html | 12:23 |
shrey | thank you | 12:23 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #423 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/423 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 12:51 |
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sonne|work | shrey: looks cool! | 13:22 |
sonne|work | shrey: how familiar are you with django? I mean now we could do it in a way that one presses a button and gets the matrix transferred from python/django | 13:23 |
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shrey | thanx.i would say that i am proficient enough.i have used django for various projects, primarily for the college sites of our fests. | 13:25 |
shrey | what would matrix transfer mean? | 13:26 |
sonne|work | shrey: you could just transfer some array with colors | 13:34 |
shrey | render the matrix with colors from the server end.is that what you mean? | 13:35 |
sonne|work | shrey: no you render it with d3js on the client | 13:35 |
sonne|work | but on the server you create the matrix with colrs | 13:35 |
sonne|work | colors | 13:35 |
shrey | okay | 13:36 |
sonne|work | and transfer it e.g. by pressing some button | 13:36 |
blackburn | sonne|work: this idea could be extended actually | 13:38 |
blackburn | with providing a web service api for shogun | 13:39 |
sonne|work | blackburn: which idea? | 13:39 |
blackburn | sonne|work: demos | 13:39 |
sonne|work | blackburn: sure | 13:39 |
sonne|work | blackburn: do we want that? | 13:39 |
blackburn | sonne|work: I am undecided about that at all | 13:39 |
sonne|work | sure one could do cool stuff | 13:41 |
sonne|work | like upload you kaggle data | 13:42 |
sonne|work | and we give you some result :D | 13:42 |
blackburn | sonne|work: well anyway I believe we should somehow get to client-server | 13:42 |
foulwall | which version is the shogun in gentoo portage? | 13:43 |
sonne|work | foulwall: I didn't even know there is one in gentoo? | 13:44 |
foulwall | sonne|work: or maybe i haven't sync a lone time... current version on my server is 1.1 | 13:44 |
foulwall | sonne|work: i'll compile it. | 13:45 |
foulwall | sonne|work: from source. | 13:45 |
sonne|work | foulwall: you should get it from source anyways | 13:45 |
sonne|work | and then just compile for python_modular, i.e. | 13:45 |
sonne|work | ./configure --interfaces=python_modular | 13:45 |
foulwall | sonne|work: thankyou. | 13:45 |
blackburn | 1.1 hmm | 13:46 |
blackburn | sonne|work: when did we release 1.1? | 13:46 |
blackburn | in 1997 or what? | 13:46 |
blackburn | :D | 13:46 |
blackburn | before gsoc 2012 actually? | 13:47 |
sonne|work | blackburn: no we didn't manage to release before gsoc2012 | 13:49 |
sonne|work | (bad bad...) | 13:49 |
blackburn | ah | 13:49 |
blackburn | 1.0 is after gsoc 2011 | 13:50 |
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shrey | sonney2k there? | 15:25 |
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shrey | i have come up with an implementation to the defining matrix on the server problem.have a look . https://github.com/shrey-rajvanshi/shogun | 15:26 |
n4nd0 | shrey: now it runs much faster, right? | 15:27 |
shrey | u define the characteristics of the matrix(start (x,y), color, cell(width,height) etc) on the server end | 15:27 |
shrey | yes | 15:27 |
n4nd0 | shrey: is it running faster also because the square is smaller? | 15:28 |
shrey | the random button is like superfast | 15:28 |
shrey | maybe | 15:28 |
shrey | let us test it for 50 X 50 matrix | 15:28 |
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n4nd0 | shrey: let's see :) | 15:28 |
shrey | :( | 15:29 |
shrey | well yes,it was because of the matrix. | 15:29 |
shrey | still takes like one complete second for a 100X100 matrix :( | 15:30 |
shrey | the random generator is still on the client side.so that wont make a difference. | 15:31 |
shrey | only the matrix definition is on the server end. | 15:31 |
n4nd0 | aham | 15:31 |
n4nd0 | I don't think that the number generation itself is what takes that time, but I am not sure | 15:32 |
shrey | it has to assign a random color to each and every cell.that is what should take time.everything else is just a one time process. | 15:32 |
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blackburn | heiko: I added erlend | 15:55 |
blackburn | and oliver | 15:57 |
blackburn | heiko: is that you pushing them? | 15:57 |
blackburn | :) | 15:57 |
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heiko | yes :) | 15:57 |
heiko | how do you know? | 15:57 |
erlenda | Know whaT? | 15:58 |
heiko | hi erlenda! | 15:58 |
erlenda | hi | 15:58 |
heiko | erlenda: so this is our main communication channel | 15:58 |
heiko | during gsoc, we will do some meetings in IRC | 15:59 |
erlenda | Sounds good | 15:59 |
blackburn | heiko: how do I know what? | 16:00 |
heiko | blackburn: how did you know that I pushed them? | 16:05 |
blackburn | heiko: there should be a reason they registered at the same time? ;) | 16:05 |
heiko | erlenda: so we already got a guy that is getting into Gaussians - he is doing introduction tasks that we defined on github - computing logdet for medium sparse matrices, sampling gaussians with medium sparse matrices etc | 16:06 |
heiko | blackburn: ah they registered :) I didnt know that | 16:06 |
blackburn | heiko: I said I added them ;) | 16:06 |
heiko | cool! | 16:06 |
blackburn | I can't add anyone if he didn't request it | 16:07 |
heiko | I see | 16:07 |
blackburn | heiko: you too | 16:07 |
blackburn | as you are an admin :) | 16:07 |
heiko | I see :D | 16:07 |
heiko | will have some more time soon to get into admin stuff - hopefully finishing paper soon! | 16:07 |
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blackburn | heiko: I am waiting for students that want to do anything but not demos :D | 16:08 |
sonne|work | blackburn: btw what happens to notifications if we now work on devel? | 16:09 |
blackburn | sonne|work: they are showed here too | 16:09 |
blackburn | are shown | 16:09 |
erlenda | @heiko: what type of technique for computing? through matrix functions? | 16:10 |
heiko | erlenda: no just cholesky, as I said, only simple intro tasks to get involved in the dev-process | 16:11 |
heiko | erlenda with symamd | 16:11 |
blackburn | gaussian party | 16:11 |
heiko | erlenda: and also importing eliptic curve stuff, checking out solvers | 16:11 |
blackburn | heiko: you must be having an portrait of that famous Friedrich | 16:12 |
heiko | blackburn: We used to have him on the 10 DM banknote | 16:12 |
blackburn | heiko: really? nice to know | 16:13 |
blackburn | heiko: who is else on other banknotes? | 16:13 |
blackburn | or rather was | 16:13 |
heiko | https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gauss+10dm&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=mKe&channel=cs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6MRmUb7_M9D70gWq3oBI&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1215&bih=938 | 16:13 |
heiko | quite cool picture :) | 16:13 |
blackburn | yes funny old man | 16:13 |
blackburn | heiko: his face is like 'go figure what I did' | 16:13 |
heiko | blackburn: there is a nice book about him and Humboldt, called "Die Vermessung der Welt" | 16:14 |
heiko | might be available in other languages | 16:14 |
blackburn | heiko: we have cities on our notes | 16:14 |
blackburn | heiko: never heard about it | 16:15 |
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blackburn | heiko: it is available in english of course :) | 16:15 |
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blackburn | heiko: and a cinema | 16:16 |
blackburn | haha movie about gauss interesting | 16:16 |
heiko | the book was popular in Germany | 16:16 |
blackburn | heiko: would you believe f(x=1, y=2) is valid C++? | 16:17 |
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sonne|work | shrey: errm did you change anything? | 16:20 |
blackburn | heiko: I am going to introduce that thing to my lib API - not for the common use of course but it is pretty nice | 16:20 |
shrey | sonne |work : after the matrix definition, nothing.Now, how should i proceed next? | 16:23 |
heiko | blackburn: what does this do? | 16:23 |
sonne|work | shrey: maybe I missed sth - you have a django project somewhere now? | 16:24 |
shrey | i have it, and i did this on the same project, but i cannot upload the code, as it is not open source :( | 16:25 |
shrey | i will create a new django project that i can upload soon. | 16:26 |
blackburn | heiko: emulates keyword args | 16:26 |
sonne|work | shrey: hmmh ok | 16:26 |
medeeiip | Hello everyone...... I've created a cmakelist for shogun to support cross platform build... tested it under windows and ubuntu 12....... | 16:29 |
medeeiip | https://github.com/medeep/shogun | 16:29 |
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medeeiip | can anyone further test it? | 16:30 |
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foulwall | compiling shogun on linode ... so slow | 16:54 |
sonne|work | foulwall: yeah it is big... do you have some fast machine around? then you could do make -j 4 (it will then use 4 cpu cores) | 17:04 |
foulwall | -js is already enabled... | 17:04 |
foulwall | -j4 | 17:04 |
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foulwall | I'll wait for it. | 17:05 |
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heiko | blackburn, sonney2k, sonne|work maybe we should have more than project related to demos/web/examples? | 18:03 |
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blackburn | heiko: more than one? | 18:20 |
heiko | more than one project | 18:23 |
heiko | yes, like one on examples/demos | 18:24 |
heiko | one on the web-stuff | 18:24 |
heiko | or two doing both but different demos | 18:24 |
blackburn | heiko: wellll | 18:25 |
blackburn | heiko: depends on # of slots I think? | 18:26 |
heiko | blackburn: yes, but just wondering | 18:29 |
heiko | since so many people are asking | 18:29 |
heiko | also we really lack this | 18:29 |
blackburn | heiko: I am afraid we lack something else | 18:30 |
blackburn | well we lack everything :) | 18:30 |
heiko | mentors :) | 18:30 |
heiko | haha :) | 18:30 |
heiko | at least we do not lack motivation :D | 18:30 |
blackburn | heiko: I lack most of time | 18:30 |
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@sonney2k | foulwall, so did it go through? | 18:37 |
foulwall | sonney2k: will finish soon. | 18:37 |
@sonney2k | foulwall, compiling for 1.5hrs? | 18:38 |
foulwall | ah | 18:38 |
n4nd0 | wouldn't be surprised :D | 18:38 |
foulwall | compile is already finished. | 18:39 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, haha! | 18:39 |
foulwall | I'm working on the svr demo. | 18:39 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, not even an old ppc or mips machine would be *that* slow | 18:39 |
n4nd0 | sonney2k: jk hehe | 18:39 |
@sonney2k | foulwall, yeah no worries | 18:39 |
n4nd0 | sonney2k: but actually before I realized my swap was not activated, taking into account the times make crashed due to out of memory error, I think once or twice it took be more than half an hour to compile | 18:40 |
n4nd0 | took me* more | 18:41 |
n4nd0 | hey medeeiip | 18:46 |
n4nd0 | I can try again in my machine | 18:46 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: errors again unfortunately, http://pastebin.com/TKume8bh | 18:48 |
n4nd0 | blackburn, heiko : nice thing about the demos/examples project is that it shouldn't be too hard to mentor | 18:50 |
n4nd0 | IMHO | 18:50 |
n4nd0 | so the idea of having more than project about that (providing enough slots) can be a good one I think | 18:50 |
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blackburn | n4nd0: yeah the question is in slots | 18:54 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, yeah but that was for octave! foulwall only needs python_modular | 18:54 |
n4nd0 | sonney2k: I actually run in the same problem only with python_modular IIRC, but my browser was *overloaded* with tabs | 18:54 |
foulwall | sonney2k: Maybe the ram is not efficient. only 512MB | 18:55 |
n4nd0 | anyway I think that is probably my bad. 4GB RAM is not too much, and no swap | 18:55 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, our buildbot also only has 4GB... | 18:55 |
n4nd0 | oh shit 521MB and I was saying 4GB is not a lot :S | 18:55 |
blackburn | 512? is it a phone? | 18:56 |
blackburn | :D | 18:56 |
n4nd0 | haha we should put that | 18:56 |
n4nd0 | shogun in your phone | 18:56 |
foulwall | haha | 18:56 |
n4nd0 | want to do some MKL in the subway? | 18:56 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, actaully shogun does run on gunnars iphone | 18:56 |
@sonney2k | first generation :D | 18:57 |
blackburn | n4nd0: I am dreaming about that - remember my client-server obsession | 18:57 |
n4nd0 | sonney2k: cool, is it just to show off or he is actually using it for anything? | 18:57 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, jsut to show off :) | 18:57 |
n4nd0 | It could be cool to show in the workshop! | 18:57 |
@sonney2k | well we have no applications demos :D | 18:58 |
@sonney2k | so it is no use | 18:58 |
blackburn | sonney2k: n4nd0: btw as I got totally mad I think I'll rather present my ideas on API during the workshop | 18:58 |
n4nd0 | will be happy to hear :) | 18:58 |
medeeiip | n4nd0: can u tell me what is the general installetion path of hdf5 in linux........ I've tried these paths.......: $ENV{HOME}/.local | 19:00 |
medeeiip | $ENV{HDF5_ROOT} | 19:01 |
medeeiip | $ENV{HDF5_ROOT_DIR_HINT} | 19:01 |
medeeiip | /usr/lib/hdf5 | 19:01 |
medeeiip | /usr/share/hdf5 | 19:01 |
medeeiip | /usr/local/hdf5 | 19:01 |
medeeiip | /usr/local/hdf5/share | 19:01 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: in my machine whereis hdf5 tells me /usr/include/hdf5.h | 19:01 |
n4nd0 | but I think that cmake should have some tricks to look for those kind of things more or less automatically | 19:03 |
medeeiip | i's searching by env variable also............ | 19:03 |
blackburn | n4nd0: why do you call it tricks ;) | 19:03 |
blackburn | it is the work of cmake to handle that | 19:03 |
n4nd0 | I like magic :) | 19:04 |
blackburn | http://www.hdfgroup.org/ftp/HDF5/h4toh5/src/unpacked/config/cmake/FindHDF5.cmake | 19:04 |
n4nd0 | medeeiip: but is there supposed to be an env variable for hdf5? | 19:04 |
blackburn | here comes a finder | 19:04 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: nice | 19:05 |
blackburn | oh that's getting late I wannt to go homee! | 19:07 |
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medeeiip | n4nd0: i's using the same version | 19:15 |
medeeiip | as the link... | 19:15 |
medeeiip | my cmake is failing to find HDF5_ROOT_DIR | 19:16 |
medeeiip | 'n so hdf5-config.cmake is remaining absent.... | 19:17 |
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Jaipreet | Hello everyone | 19:19 |
n4nd0 | hi Jaipreet! | 19:20 |
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@sonney2k | n4nd0, did you register your nick with nickserv? | 19:37 |
n4nd0 | sonney2k: yeah | 19:40 |
n4nd0 | but the password is in the old computer | 19:40 |
n4nd0 | I should put it here too but I am lazy :) | 19:40 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, please do it | 19:42 |
foulwall | Hi sonney2k | 19:45 |
foulwall | I've nearly finished the svr demo. | 19:46 |
foulwall | check this http://shogun.foulwall.com/ | 19:46 |
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foulwall | just click the regression button. | 19:48 |
@sonney2k | foulwall, cool stuff! | 19:48 |
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Moloy | hi i am new to shogun.. i am trying to install it in windows in the cygwin terminal.. after running ./configure , upon running make it says | 19:48 |
Moloy | In file included from ../shogun/base/SGObject.h:16, from ../shogun/mathematics/Math.h:21, from base/init.cpp:12: ../shogun/lib/common.h:46:8: warning: undefining "__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS" In file included from ../shogun/mathematics/Math.h:21, from base/init.cpp:12: ../shogun/base/SGObject.h:182: error: `VERSION_PARAMETER' was not declared in this scope ../shogun/base/SGObject.h:196: error | 19:49 |
@sonney2k | foulwall, excellent work :)) | 19:50 |
@sonney2k | Moloy, which version of shogun | 19:50 |
foulwall | there's some little bugs...I'll fix them tomorrow. | 19:50 |
@sonney2k | ? | 19:50 |
@sonney2k | foulwall, couldn't find any bugs... | 19:50 |
Moloy | sonney2k , 2.2 | 19:51 |
@sonney2k | sry gtg now | 19:51 |
@sonney2k | foulwall, keep up the good work! | 19:52 |
foulwall | sonney2k: thank you! | 19:52 |
foulwall | sonney2k: what I can do tommorrow? | 19:53 |
Moloy | foulwall, any clue ? | 19:57 |
foulwall | Moloy: I've no idea, also new to shogun | 19:58 |
medeeiip__ | Moloy: i gs u 'r missing build-essential in cygwin | 20:00 |
foulwall | medeeiip__: that sounds reasonable | 20:01 |
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Moloy | medeeiip_: i just checked.. i have it | 20:03 |
foulwall | sonney2k: It's too late...I have to go sleep... you can tell me what i do tomorrow via email. | 20:04 |
medeeiip__ | Moloy: do u have autotools? | 20:05 |
n4nd0 | nice demo foulwall ! | 20:05 |
Moloy | ya | 20:06 |
foulwall | thank you n4nd0 | 20:06 |
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foulwall | i have a lot of ideas on the demo... and i'll implement them later | 20:08 |
foulwall | good night n4nd0! | 20:09 |
n4nd0 | night | 20:09 |
foulwall | see all you guys tomorrow. | 20:09 |
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n4nd0 | sonney2k: why the nickserv pass thing? are you going to start checking that we are ourselves for real? | 20:13 |
blackburn | I am surprised with that foulwall thing | 20:19 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: awesome thing indeed | 20:20 |
n4nd0 | that is the sort of demo I was waiting for but I did not expect to see one so soon! | 20:20 |
blackburn | n4nd0: yes that's really fast | 20:21 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: but how is that done? django/d3? | 20:21 |
n4nd0 | I am going to check closer | 20:21 |
blackburn | n4nd0: jquery | 20:22 |
blackburn | n4nd0: nothing to do with django here :) | 20:22 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: nor d3 either hehe | 20:22 |
blackburn | n4nd0: d3 plots the stuff | 20:22 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: but is this calling really shogun code every time we say regression? | 20:23 |
blackburn | n4nd0: jquery does ajax stuff | 20:23 |
blackburn | n4nd0: yes | 20:23 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: aham, I understand | 20:23 |
n4nd0 | oh this is awesome stuff | 20:23 |
blackburn | n4nd0: ah probably that's django on the server side | 20:23 |
blackburn | as a web service | 20:23 |
blackburn | I do not know | 20:23 |
blackburn | there are a lot of ways to do that | 20:23 |
n4nd0 | I want to ask foulwall | 20:24 |
n4nd0 | tom probably | 20:24 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: this is the kind of thind I told you about for tapkee web | 20:25 |
n4nd0 | we put some points around in 2D and embed to a line | 20:25 |
blackburn | n4nd0: 2d -> 1d? | 20:25 |
n4nd0 | yes | 20:25 |
n4nd0 | no real use | 20:25 |
n4nd0 | but I don't know how to do an interactive example otherwise | 20:26 |
blackburn | n4nd0: static is ok | 20:27 |
blackburn | n4nd0: lets better finish it sooner | 20:27 |
blackburn | :) | 20:27 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: hehe agree | 20:28 |
n4nd0 | blackburn: try putting C?0 with GaussKernel | 20:30 |
n4nd0 | C=0 | 20:30 |
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blackburn | n4nd0: error generated? | 20:30 |
n4nd0 | hehe yeah | 20:30 |
n4nd0 | it is handled it seems | 20:30 |
@sonney2k | blackburn, please register your nick with nickserv | 20:55 |
blackburn | sonney2k: why? | 20:55 |
@sonney2k | n4nd0, yes - it is better if at least heiko, you, blackburn have to proper rights to admin this channel | 20:55 |
blackburn | sonney2k: I am unable to do that because someone owns it :) | 20:55 |
n4nd0 | sonney2k: aham I see | 20:56 |
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@sonney2k | blackburn, someone not you? | 20:56 |
lisitsyn | okay getting rid of nickname | 20:56 |
lisitsyn | sonney2k: exactly | 20:56 |
n4nd0 | maybe I should think if I want to be something some serious like iglesias (probably taken) | 20:56 |
@sonney2k | lisitsyn, why not use blackburn91 then? | 20:56 |
@sonney2k | or whatever you use for mail? | 20:56 |
lisitsyn | sonney2k: my mail now is lisitsyn.s.o | 20:56 |
lisitsyn | :) | 20:56 |
lisitsyn | and my github is lisitsyn | 20:56 |
lisitsyn | so it is less confusing | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | lisitsyn, you cannot be lisitsyn you are blackburn! | 20:57 |
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@sonney2k | it is totally ridiculous | 20:57 |
iglesiashogun | what about this one for me? | 20:57 |
lisitsyn | sonney2k: why? | 20:57 |
lisitsyn | :D | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | iglesiashogun, even worse | 20:57 |
iglesiashogun | T_T | 20:57 |
lisitsyn | sonney2k: but I like my surname *crying* | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | iglesiashogun, rename yourself back or I will make you do it :P | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | lisitsyn, and you too! | 20:58 |
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@sonney2k | n4nd0, please register | 20:58 |
n4nd0 | sonney2k: ok then I will be tom with the password | 20:58 |
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n4nd0 | I don't have it here now | 20:58 |
blackburn | sonney2k: I can't register it | 20:58 |
n4nd0 | it is in my computer at home, I am at the office | 20:58 |
n4nd0 | old computer | 20:58 |
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qdrgsm | okay my other nick | 20:58 |
qdrgsm | :D | 20:58 |
n4nd0 | :D | 20:58 |
qdrgsm | sonney2k: better? | 20:58 |
qdrgsm | it is short of quadragesimo n4nd0 should know what it is | 20:58 |
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n4nd0 | it sounds like 40th is Spanish | 20:59 |
@gausskern | qdrgsm, you can be kernelpca if you want | 20:59 |
qdrgsm | n4nd0: exactly | 20:59 |
-!- qdrgsm is now known as klle | 20:59 | |
klle | I like kernel LLE more | 20:59 |
-!- n4nd0 is now known as homokernel | 20:59 | |
klle | hahaha | 20:59 |
klle | homoo | 20:59 |
homokernel | :( | 20:59 |
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klle | homokernel: homo kernel homo kernel! | 21:00 |
klle | iloveponies: so pony lover what should I do? :D | 21:00 |
@iloveponies | klle, ride the pony! what else! | 21:00 |
klle | NORTH KOREAN MISSILE TEST DELAYED BY WINDOWS 8 | 21:01 |
klle | hahah | 21:01 |
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homokernel | hehe | 21:01 |
homokernel | one thing related to admin rights | 21:01 |
-!- klle is now known as lisitsyn | 21:01 | |
homokernel | how is one suppose to act if someone calls you bugger? | 21:01 |
@sonne3000 | homokernel, pretty cool http://shogun.foulwall.com/ isn't it? | 21:01 |
* homokernel wonders | 21:01 | |
lisitsyn | homokernel: hahah | 21:01 |
lisitsyn | sonne3000: it is awesome | 21:02 |
-!- homokernel is now known as n4nd0 | 21:02 | |
lisitsyn | n4nd0: I'd cry deeply | 21:02 |
n4nd0 | sonne3000: it is pretty pretty cool indeed | 21:02 |
n4nd0 | I didn't expect to see that type of demo already around here | 21:02 |
n4nd0 | but a bit later | 21:02 |
lisitsyn | n4nd0: come on it was not insult I hope he just blamed to the air | 21:02 |
@sonne3000 | n4nd0, yeah he is incredibly fast | 21:02 |
n4nd0 | lisitsyn: I think so hehe | 21:03 |
n4nd0 | I am not offended, I think it was a funny moment :) | 21:03 |
@sonne3000 | so lisitsyn you want to stick with that nick? | 21:04 |
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lisitsyn | blackburn: yes | 21:04 |
lisitsyn | blackburn: why do you like my nick? | 21:04 |
@blackburn | blackburn, why do you like n4nd0's ? | 21:04 |
lisitsyn | blackburn: do I? | 21:04 |
lisitsyn | :D | 21:04 |
n4nd0 | T_T | 21:05 |
lisitsyn | blackburn: it would be cool if your nick here was a surname too | 21:05 |
lisitsyn | blackburn: it would teach people to use autocompletion | 21:05 |
lisitsyn | because there is no chance to write such a long word | 21:05 |
n4nd0 | hehe | 21:05 |
n4nd0 | we should write it in the intro message | 21:06 |
n4nd0 | Remember young padawan the tab to use, for name autocomplete to unleash. | 21:06 |
n4nd0 | autocompletion better | 21:06 |
@blackburn | so guys please try hard to register your nicks' | 21:07 |
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n4nd0 | yeah I will have it auto from tomorrow as I used to do | 21:07 |
@sonney2k | ok at least sb :D | 21:08 |
@sonney2k | thanks | 21:08 |
lisitsyn | sonney2k: doe | 21:08 |
lisitsyn | done | 21:08 |
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@sonney2k | lisitsyn, looks likey heiko is already taken - of course :D | 21:11 |
@sonney2k | ohh well | 21:11 |
@sonney2k | gtg | 21:11 |
@sonney2k | cu | 21:11 |
@lisitsyn | sonney2k: strathmann! | 21:11 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 21:11 |
@lisitsyn | sonnenburg | 21:11 |
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iglesiasg | I going to be this one | 21:12 |
@lisitsyn | ooooh Y U HAVE SO LONG surnames | 21:12 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 21:12 |
@sonney2k | lisitsyn, yeah shortcut for SonnenburG :D | 21:12 |
@sonney2k | I have it | 21:12 |
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@sonney2k | everyhwere heh | 21:12 |
@sonney2k | cu | 21:12 |
@lisitsyn | sonney2k: I have seen it a few times | 21:12 |
iglesiasg | sonney2k: it is done now, I have register | 21:15 |
* iglesiasg is born | 21:15 | |
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medeeiip__ | sonney2k: what are the main criterias to get selected into gsoc 13? | 21:38 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: quality of contributions, quality of proposal, etc | 21:45 |
iglesiasg | medeeiip__: and IMHO contributions tend to matter more than proposal | 21:46 |
iglesiasg | but I am not the one to make the choice :) just giving my opinion | 21:46 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: it depends on many many things | 21:47 |
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medeeiip__ | lisitsyn: many things.... like? | 21:56 |
medeeiip__ | lisitsyn: IMHO contribution means? | 21:56 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: well we don't know how many slots we will receive | 21:56 |
@lisitsyn | yes contribution is very important | 21:56 |
@lisitsyn | we are searching for long-term contributors so we'd like to work with motivated people | 21:57 |
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medeeiip__ | lisitsyn: I'm a engineering student with c++ skills but with very basic knowledge of ML.... So i want to contribute to the project idea on "improving file handling"..... Is that project has priority.... | 21:59 |
medeeiip__ | i mean as u said :well we don't know how many slots we will receive | 21:59 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: from past experience we usually do not choose ideas but students | 22:00 |
medeeiip__ | lisitsyn: what if two students have submitted the same proposal and both are very good? | 22:01 |
iglesiasg | the old coin flip :P | 22:01 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: sounds very hypothetical :) | 22:02 |
iglesiasg | just kidding | 22:02 |
medeeiip__ | :D | 22:03 |
medeeiip__ | lisitsyn: let be very frank.... as I said I've very basic knowledge of ML, So i gs there would be almost no chance for me to contribute in a long term..... So may I've a chance as you said: we are searching for long-term contributors so we'd like to work with motivated people | 22:05 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: no, why? we have not that much on ML itself | 22:06 |
@lisitsyn | it is all about the infrastructure | 22:07 |
@lisitsyn | it takes most time usually | 22:07 |
medeeiip__ | OK! one technical question: can shogun be built without hdf5? | 22:08 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: yes of course | 22:09 |
medeeiip__ | lisitsyn: I'm interested about porting shogun to windows. So first of all I needed a config generator like cmake. I've written a cmakelist which works on windows but as n4nd0 said that failed on linux for hdf5 . So I've rewritten it. Can you plese check it...if u have time? | 22:13 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: let me check it a bit later | 22:14 |
@lisitsyn | medeeiip__: don't you have linux? | 22:14 |
medeeiip__ | actually i have. but i couldn't installed hdf5 | 22:15 |
medeeiip__ | with my cmakelist everything is okey without hdf5 | 22:16 |
medeeiip__ | as it does not provide a cmake module by default | 22:16 |
@lisitsyn | give me a link to your git please | 22:16 |
medeeiip__ | sure | 22:16 |
medeeiip__ | https://github.com/medeep/shogun | 22:17 |
@lisitsyn | cloning | 22:18 |
iglesiasg | medeeiip__: I have just tried again, cmake worked fine but unfortunately make failed :( | 22:23 |
medeeiip__ | complaining about? | 22:23 |
iglesiasg | I am n4nd0 btw :) | 22:23 |
iglesiasg | medeeiip__: http://pastebin.com/c58dabgQ | 22:24 |
iglesiasg | I included both cmake and make traces | 22:24 |
iglesiasg | medeeiip__: out of curiosity, let me ask you, do you have previous experience preparing cmake for a big project like shogun or are you drawing inspiration from other open source project that supports cmake? | 22:25 |
medeeiip__ | no... I've worked in any...... so my code quality may be poor | 22:27 |
iglesiasg | aham I see | 22:27 |
medeeiip__ | but see cmake is note generating files like RInterface.h | 22:27 |
medeeiip__ | and the problem is with that... | 22:27 |
medeeiip__ | so where may b the prob? | 22:28 |
iglesiasg | medeeiip__: no idea really, I have not looked at your CMakeLists files | 22:29 |
iglesiasg | I am no cmake expert either. I have just used it in small projects | 22:30 |
medeeiip__ | btw is my code very poor????????? Plese be frank | 22:30 |
iglesiasg | I don't know much about cmake so my opinion is not probably good regarding that | 22:31 |
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iglesiasg | I don't think it looks poor at first sight, normal cmake code | 22:33 |
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medeeiip_ | actually i've alittle bit exp in c++ in all other aspect I've very low exp....... btw thanks a lot for testing even after failing a lot of time | 22:36 |
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gsomix | hi | 22:40 |
gsomix | lisitsyn: where's blackburn? | 22:41 |
@lisitsyn | gsomix: I had to change a nickname to register here at freenode | 22:41 |
@lisitsyn | as 'blackburn' is owned by some | 22:41 |
gsomix | huh | 22:41 |
@sonney2k | lisitsyn, :) | 22:49 |
@sonney2k | nite guys | 22:49 |
@lisitsyn | nite | 22:49 |
iglesiasg | good night | 22:55 |
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