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| gsomix | hi | 08:58 |
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| gsomix | iglesiasg: hey, how are you? what is your project at this year? | 09:29 |
| @iglesiasg | gsomix: I am aimint at the structured learning project | 09:32 |
| @iglesiasg | gsomix: what about you? | 09:32 |
| @iglesiasg | aiming* | 09:32 |
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| abinash | sonney2k: I want to work on the issue Fix and enable blacklisted integration tests. | 09:36 |
| abinash | Could you please be more elaborate it | 09:37 |
| gsomix | iglesiasg: improving of usability again or improving of dimensionality reduction module | 09:37 |
| @iglesiasg | aham the second one with sensei lisitsyn :) | 09:38 |
| gsomix | iglesiasg: yep. it's cool project: ml+modern cpp+data structures... | 09:40 |
| @iglesiasg | yeah | 09:40 |
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| foulwall | hello guys | 09:52 |
| @iglesiasg | hey | 09:53 |
| foulwall | iglesiasg: why the interactive_clustering_demo.py turns out different figure when I click the 'cluster' button ? | 09:55 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: hey there! | 09:55 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: I've write a clustering demo | 09:55 |
| gsomix | foulwall: hi. nice support vector regression demo, btw | 09:55 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: http://shogun-toolbox.org/demo/svr/entrance | 09:55 |
| sonne|work | I put it live | 09:55 |
| sonne|work | and I realized we still have some minor issues | 09:55 |
| foulwall | yeah, the title of that page there are incorrect and a lot of improve we can make | 09:56 |
| sonne|work | one was a bit critical - we needed to call .get_labels() to get the numpy array - that is necessary due to an older numpy version | 09:56 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: but what is important is that you validate input | 09:57 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: e.g. for degree of kernel I could enter 'adfadf' | 09:57 |
| sonne|work | and then that causes an exception | 09:57 |
| sonne|work | so you should validate this in the server side (in python) and also in .js | 09:58 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: back to your question - yes clustering can return different results - it is initialized with some random number | 09:58 |
| foulwall | ok, I'll do that, and pull request | 09:58 |
| @iglesiasg | foulwall: regarding the clustering example, it is using an algorithm kmeans that I think is randomly initialized | 09:59 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: one more thing - please be cautious when taking code from other sources - the license has to be compatible with gplv3. | 09:59 |
| foulwall | oh , I'll take care. | 10:00 |
| gsomix | abinash: try asking sonne|work instead sonney2k now :) | 10:04 |
| abinash | sonne|work I want to work on the issue Fix and enable blacklisted integration tests | 10:04 |
| abinash | could you please elaborate it | 10:05 |
| sonne|work | hi abinash | 10:06 |
| abinash | Hello sonne|work | 10:06 |
| sonne|work | abinash: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/master/tests/integration/python_modular/generator.py | 10:07 |
| sonne|work | look at this - inside is a variable blacklist | 10:07 |
| sonne|work | these are the failing test / examples | 10:07 |
| sonne|work | so just pick one | 10:07 |
| abinash | ok | 10:08 |
| sonne|work | and analyze it to death :) | 10:08 |
| sonne|work | if you know why it fails tell us :) | 10:08 |
| abinash | ok thanks, I would try it | 10:08 |
| sonne|work | some for sure might be tough | 10:09 |
| sonne|work | and others very easy | 10:09 |
| abinash | Ok, I am thinking to pickup kernel_distance_modular.py | 10:10 |
| abinash | Let me see whether it is tough or not | 10:11 |
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| foulwall | sonne|work: iglesiasg http://foulwall.com:8000/demo/clustering/entrance a demo for clustering,left click for positive dots and right click for negative dots | 10:15 |
| @iglesiasg | foulwall: nice! | 10:16 |
| foulwall | iglesiasg: thanks | 10:17 |
| gsomix | foulwall: right cliks installs both dots: negative and positive, hm | 10:17 |
| gsomix | *click | 10:17 |
| foulwall | gsomix: sorry for that | 10:17 |
| foulwall | I'll fix it | 10:17 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: cool | 10:17 |
| @iglesiasg | gsomix: really? didn't note it here | 10:17 |
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| sonne|work | foulwall: how did you point the circle? | 10:17 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: it seems like separated dots? | 10:18 |
| foulwall | use the polar system | 10:18 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: no I mean doesn't d3 allow you to draw a circle? | 10:18 |
| @iglesiasg | foulwall: kmeans should work also fine for more than two classes so I guess the demo could also support that somehow | 10:19 |
| lisitsyn | sonne|work: btw our kmeans is b0rken for say manhattan distance | 10:19 |
| foulwall | ok i'll make d3 draw the circle | 10:19 |
| gsomix | iglesiasg: just press right button, hold, and move aside | 10:19 |
| gsomix | foulwall: cool demo :) | 10:20 |
| @iglesiasg | gsomix: mmm I only get clue dots here doing that | 10:20 |
| lisitsyn | sonne|work: IIRC manhattan distance kmeans objective is minimized with median not mean | 10:20 |
| @iglesiasg | clue -> blue | 10:20 |
| sonne|work | gsomix: doesn't happen here | 10:20 |
| sonne|work | gsomix: which browser? | 10:20 |
| gsomix | hm, strange. Chrome 26.0.1410.64 m, win64 | 10:21 |
| sonne|work | strange | 10:21 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: why? | 10:21 |
| lisitsyn | sonne|work: recall the objective of kmeans - it is not minimized with mean for arbitrary distance | 10:22 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: that's arbitrary no? | 10:22 |
| lisitsyn | sonne|work: but we put centers to the mean right? | 10:22 |
| sonne|work | sure | 10:22 |
| lisitsyn | sonne|work: does mean minimize inner cluster distance in case of manhattan distance? | 10:22 |
| lisitsyn | mean is a minimizer of least squares (euclidean) | 10:23 |
| lisitsyn | not the sum of absolute differences | 10:23 |
| lisitsyn | afaik kmeans is not generic in that | 10:24 |
| lisitsyn | it could work with spectral clustering when data is embedded to some euclidean space first | 10:24 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: I see what you mean but it is still OK as is if we document it | 10:24 |
| foulwall | the demo is only a preview, I've found lotsof bugs in it, wait me and I'll show the perfect one. | 10:24 |
| lisitsyn | sonne|work: yes sure - I am just totally unsure if results are any reasonable with other metrics | 10:25 |
| gsomix | foulwall: sonne|work: iglesiasg: same in Firefox 20. probably I have problems with mouse... | 10:28 |
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| @iglesiasg | hehe yeah it makes sense | 10:29 |
| @iglesiasg | foulwall: sure, no need to rush :) | 10:29 |
| foulwall | gsomix: It's the code's problem | 10:29 |
| foulwall | gsomix: I've found the bug | 10:30 |
| gsomix | foulwall: ^__^ | 10:34 |
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| sonne|work | foulwall: I think it would make more sense instead of right mouse button clicks to have some color buttons (say 10 or so) from which one can choose from | 10:37 |
| sonne|work | and depending on which one is active you get a different label/color circle | 10:37 |
| sonne|work | this probably is easier too | 10:37 |
| sonne|work | and would work with unlimited number of classes | 10:37 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: anyway now that you have this with left / right mouse keep it - we can at least use it for binary classification examples | 10:38 |
| sonne|work | (or the first two colors) | 10:38 |
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| eric___ | hi | 10:40 |
| eric___ | mmmh.. my irc is still down? anyone here ? | 10:41 |
| @lisitsyn | eric___: we hear you! | 10:41 |
| @lisitsyn | :) | 10:41 |
| sonne|work | eric___: yes you keep asking that question no? | 10:41 |
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| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: he must be using a telegraph wire for internet connection | 10:43 |
| sonne|work | it is always the same | 10:43 |
| sonne|work | I think I tried 3 times to answer his question | 10:43 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: btw I have a strong reason to don't like JL's v_array | 10:59 |
| @lisitsyn | I still didn't manage to get it working under M$ VS | 10:59 |
| @lisitsyn | so it is just to win a few milliseconds may be | 11:00 |
| @lisitsyn | but spend all your life to debug it heh | 11:00 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: we finally got andreas | 11:02 |
| @lisitsyn | 13 mentors | 11:02 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: yeah pushing people did help :-) | 11:04 |
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| sonne|work | lisitsyn: how many did I say we should be? | 11:30 |
| sonne|work | 14 | 11:31 |
| sonne|work | ok so who is missing?! | 11:31 |
| @iglesiasg | sonne|work: you are talking about signing up in melange? | 11:33 |
| sonne|work | yes | 11:33 |
| @iglesiasg | sonne|work: mm I think I never mentioned that to Patrick, maybe he is the one missing? | 11:33 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: stegle? | 11:33 |
| @lisitsyn | iglesiasg: he did that | 11:33 |
| @iglesiasg | ok then | 11:34 |
| sonne|work | yes | 11:34 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: no stegle is here | 11:34 |
| @lisitsyn | sonne|work: daniel simpson of heiko | 11:35 |
| sonne|work | yes | 11:35 |
| @lisitsyn | is missed | 11:35 |
| sonne|work | thats it I think | 11:36 |
| sonne|work | I will tell heiko | 11:36 |
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| @lisitsyn | http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0059743 | 12:05 |
| @iglesiasg | dafuq | 12:06 |
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| foulwall | hey guys | 14:00 |
| foulwall | just finished bug fix | 14:01 |
| foulwall | http://foulwall.com:8000/demo/clustering/entrance | 14:01 |
| foulwall | no big change | 14:02 |
| gsomix | foulwall: works proper, cool :) | 14:03 |
| foulwall | sonney2k: gsomix: I'll update a pull request for this and the bug fix for the previous svr demo | 14:04 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: nice | 14:05 |
| foulwall | I added some check on the input so illegal input can be corrected | 14:05 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: very good. btw I just tried out svr again. it would make sense to draw lines between the blue points | 14:07 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: if someone draws some crazy function it looks a bit weird with all those gaps | 14:07 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: ohh and I noted that one can put points outside of the coordinate system | 14:08 |
| sonne|work | maybe better limit that | 14:08 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: sorry one more wish... please make the range 0...1 on the x & y axis... this is better for the polynomial kernel | 14:09 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: you means the user can put points in the negative area? | 14:09 |
| sonne|work | left of the y axis currently | 14:10 |
| sonne|work | just next to the axis | 14:10 |
| sonne|work | and below they x axis too | 14:10 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: sorry for all these (minor) comments... | 14:10 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: that's easy | 14:10 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: no problem, i'll fix those. | 14:11 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: but the point left and bottom are legal and reasonable ones, and won't cause bugs | 14:12 |
| sonne|work | but they are negative? | 14:13 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: yep | 14:13 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: anyway i'll fix it. | 14:15 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: how to set parameter if I set the axis to range 0...1, the result turn out to be ugly | 14:40 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: nothing need to be changed. my mistake | 14:41 |
| sonne|work | foulwall: sorry I didn't understand | 14:42 |
| foulwall | sonne|work: I've made a nonsense, ignore it | 14:43 |
| sonne|work | :) | 14:43 |
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| foulwall | @sonney2k I adjusted the svr demo's x range to 0...1, but the result figure is not as good as the previous one, I guess the parameter like cost, tubeeps need changing, no idea how I change them. I don't know how svr works, help me | 17:17 |
| foulwall | result curve is not so fitted | 17:18 |
| foulwall | son | 17:36 |
| foulwall | sorry for last nonsense. | 17:37 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #361 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/361 | 18:21 |
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| HeikoS | sonney2k, registered my nickname | 18:24 |
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| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I will have to disable the website buildbot frontend | 19:16 |
| @sonney2k | too many spam bots... | 19:16 |
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| @sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build nightly_default | 19:18 |
| shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 35m38s] | 19:18 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 19:18 |
| @sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build 'rpm1 - libshogun' | 19:19 |
| shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 7m25s] | 19:19 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 19:19 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1010 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1010 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 19:20 |
| @sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build 'deb3 - modular_interfaces' | 19:22 |
| shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 44m36s] | 19:22 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 19:22 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #424 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/424 | 19:28 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #1011 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1011 | 20:01 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: the above fail could have been prevented if python tests would be performed before merge ... | 20:02 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #362 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/362 | 20:04 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS well it is your responsibility - you've merged this :P | 20:13 |
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| lambday | lisitsyn: hi... | 20:31 |
| @lisitsyn | lambday: hey | 20:31 |
| lambday | two questions - one.. say i am already in a feature branch... made some commits, but then I want to work on another feature branch.. and finish and push that one first.. | 20:32 |
| lambday | so, if i just do git checkout develop... and then start the new feature branch... it will work? | 20:33 |
| @lisitsyn | you may change your branches | 20:33 |
| @lisitsyn | yes | 20:33 |
| @lisitsyn | no problem | 20:33 |
| lambday | lisitsyn: alright.. thanks... another question | 20:33 |
| lambday | i think we'll be needing the SGSparseMatrix to eigen's SparseMatrix quite often.. we talked about it and you told that it will slow down the swig stuffs... is there any way, we could define this, some util may be, so that it doesn't harm much? | 20:35 |
| @lisitsyn | lambday: yes, just implement it in other class | 20:35 |
| @lisitsyn | that is not exposed to swig | 20:35 |
| lambday | ummm.. okay let me check | 20:37 |
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| gsomix | good evening | 20:44 |
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| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, errm is there any way to place an abstract when registering for the workshop? | 22:07 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: abstract of? | 22:08 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: there is a field for that already | 22:09 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, ok then | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, lisitsyn please polish the CfP for the workshop... | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | took me ages I am pretty rusy | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | rusty | 22:22 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: oh 2 days at TU? | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, not? | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | only I am not around | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | :( | 22:23 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: I don't mind - just asking if this is already signed | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | no it is not | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, I am sending this to gunnar and chris etc etc too | 22:27 |
| @sonney2k | alright cu | 22:27 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: I think it is pretty well, nothing I can come up with to make it better ATM | 22:27 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: yes it is pretty well-written | 22:27 |
| @sonney2k | I don't like it that much | 22:27 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: oh BTW, I guess we don't need to apply for the registration but maybe I am wrong | 22:29 |
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| @iglesiasg | sonney2k, lisitsyn: one thing, since we are now merging to develop with the PRs, we lost this nice message from travis | 22:46 |
| @iglesiasg | I mean the one that appears here: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/901 | 22:46 |
| @iglesiasg | but not here: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/973 | 22:46 |
| @iglesiasg | I think it would be nice if we can still keep that | 22:47 |
| @lisitsyn | iglesiasg: could you please check the travis doc to find out if it is possible to set up a default branch? | 22:48 |
| @iglesiasg | lisitsyn: ok, let me google a bit | 22:48 |
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| medeeiip_ | in shogun io module in some function like CAsciiFile::get_string_list() uint8_t* is used instade of char*. What is the reason behind doing so? afterall the file will contain char value..... | 23:14 |
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