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| daveeloo | Hi everyone, I'd like to introduce myself, I'm Dave | 04:59 |
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| daveeloo | I'm interested in a project for GSoC and am wondering if there is anyone I can talk to for that | 05:00 |
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| dvalcarce | hi | 11:47 |
| dvalcarce | sorry for being disappeared this week | 11:47 |
| dvalcarce | i've been busy with projects and exams | 11:47 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, i like ideas 1 and 3, i don't know if they are still available | 11:47 |
| @iglesiasg | dvalcarce: I hope the exams/projects went well ;) | 11:48 |
| dvalcarce | thx, i expect that too :) | 11:48 |
| dvalcarce | hi,foulwall, have you decided what project you want to do? | 11:48 |
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| deerishi | @iglesiasg: hi | 12:11 |
| @iglesiasg | what's up deerishi | 12:11 |
| deerishi | the integration test on KPCA suceeded.what should i do next to merge it. | 12:12 |
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| @iglesiasg | once you issue a PR, wait until someone can revise and merge it | 12:12 |
| @iglesiasg | I think Heiko was taking a look to this issue | 12:13 |
| deerishi | k.thanks .:) | 12:14 |
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| foulwall | Hi dvalcarce | 12:37 |
| dvalcarce | hi foulwall | 12:38 |
| foulwall | I've submitted my proposal, I chose 1. | 12:38 |
| dvalcarce | ok, then i will go after 3 | 12:39 |
| foulwall | dvalcarce: if I finish the demos early, I will help you. | 12:41 |
| foulwall | dvalcarce: have you wrote your proposal. | 12:42 |
| dvalcarce | that would be great | 12:42 |
| dvalcarce | no, not yet | 12:42 |
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| dvalcarce | this week i didn't have much time | 12:43 |
| dvalcarce | and i didn't know if you had chosen a project | 12:44 |
| foulwall | dvalcarce: sonney2k suggest me write my proposal for the demos, so I chose the first one. | 12:46 |
| foulwall | dvalcarce: if you interested in implementing the demos, I can rewrite my proposal for the 3 :) | 12:47 |
| dvalcarce | no, no, it's not necesary :) | 12:47 |
| dvalcarce | i like both projects | 12:48 |
| dvalcarce | but thanks :) | 12:48 |
| @lisitsyn | foulwall: dvalcarce: you are free to send multiple proposals | 12:49 |
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| @iglesiasg | dvalcarce, foulwall: if you are both interested in both projects; my suggestion is go ahead and send proposals to both | 12:57 |
| abinash | what does interfacing an external library via modular interface mean? | 12:58 |
| foulwall | iglesiasg: lisitsyn: Thanks for reminding | 12:59 |
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| foulwall | dvalcarce: What's your opinion? write both? | 13:00 |
| @lisitsyn | foulwall: dvalcarce: can you please remind me what ideas you are talking about? | 13:00 |
| dvalcarce | foulwall: if they recommend us, i think we should | 13:01 |
| @lisitsyn | haha | 13:01 |
| @lisitsyn | nice point | 13:01 |
| @iglesiasg | dvalcarce: but it's not me making the choice either :) | 13:01 |
| dvalcarce | lisitsyn: we are talking about web demos and shogun web ui | 13:01 |
| @lisitsyn | oh alright I see | 13:01 |
| dvalcarce | :P | 13:01 |
| @iglesiasg | dvalcarce: another guy and I were in a similar situation last year -- we apply to the two projects we were interested in | 13:02 |
| @iglesiasg | and let the captains decide :) | 13:02 |
| @lisitsyn | dvalcarce: foulwall: it gives us more freedom to assign students | 13:02 |
| dvalcarce | haha | 13:02 |
| foulwall | lisitsyn: 1) do graphical demos for everythign that is in shogun | 13:03 |
| foulwall | lisitsyn: 2) do shogun applications | 13:03 |
| foulwall | lisitsyn: 3) do a machine learning web framework | 13:03 |
| @lisitsyn | alright | 13:04 |
| @lisitsyn | foulwall: dvalcarce: I wouldn't expect to get some of sonney2k time on weekend so talk to Soeren next week | 13:05 |
| foulwall | lisitsyn: ok | 13:05 |
| @lisitsyn | the closer it is to the deadline the clearer it is so we will see | 13:05 |
| dvalcarce | lisitsyn: all right | 13:05 |
| foulwall | lisitsyn: How many slots did shogun get last year? | 13:07 |
| @lisitsyn | foulwall: 9 | 13:07 |
| @lisitsyn | and we sent one back | 13:08 |
| foulwall | lisitsyn: I've heard that :) | 13:08 |
| abinash | Hello anyone can please help me in understanding what does interfacing an external library via modular interface mean? | 13:09 |
| @iglesiasg | abinash: hey, where did you read it? ideas page? | 13:09 |
| abinash | Yes from the idea Interface and develop the general quadratic solver library libqp | 13:10 |
| @iglesiasg | abinash: that you can access libqp via shogun modular interfaces | 13:11 |
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| @iglesiasg | abinash: hehe I am just re-writing mostly | 13:11 |
| abinash | iglesiasg: Ok does that mean inclusion of libqp within the mathematics folder | 13:13 |
| @iglesiasg | abinash: where to put it is a minor detail | 13:14 |
| @iglesiasg | abinash: it means it should be accesible from python and other interfaces via SWIG | 13:14 |
| abinash | iglesiasg: Ok I got it | 13:15 |
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| dvalcarce | iglesiasg, I've just sent a pull request with the perceptron demo you suggested | 13:48 |
| dvalcarce | I hope you like it :) | 13:48 |
| @iglesiasg | dvalcarce: can we see it somewhere? | 13:50 |
| @iglesiasg | I just browsed the PR | 13:50 |
| dvalcarce | you can run it locally | 13:51 |
| @iglesiasg | ok | 13:51 |
| @iglesiasg | I will check later, gtg now | 13:52 |
| @iglesiasg | see you | 13:52 |
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| dvalcarce | bye | 13:52 |
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| deerishi | @HeikoS :hi | 14:48 |
| @HeikoS | deerishi: hi! | 14:48 |
| @HeikoS | have you seen my mail? | 14:48 |
| deerishi | yes .i just saw it | 14:49 |
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| deerishi | i added the file name to the backlist ,that solved the error i was getting earliar | 14:49 |
| deerishi | what exactly did you mean by create a integration test? | 14:51 |
| deerishi | i'll be back in 10-15vmin.just hv to go and submit a project report. | 14:54 |
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| abinash | iglesiasg: in the idea Interface and develop the general quadratic solver library libqp, one point stated is the integration of libqp with pr_loqo | 14:58 |
| abinash | iglesiasg: what is the necessity of it? | 14:58 |
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| @HeikoS | deerishi: adding to ignore is not good | 15:06 |
| @HeikoS | have a look in tests/integration/python_modular | 15:07 |
| @HeikoS | there is a script that gernerates test data | 15:07 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: are you around? | 15:07 |
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| mdragan | Hello everyone! @lisitsyn, I have a question regarding the example for sparse inverse covariance (issue 863). | 16:04 |
| deerishi | @HeikoS : i executed the command "python generator.py preprocessor_kpca.py".that should generate the test file?rite? | 16:07 |
| @HeikoS | deerishi: yes, you should see some output preprocessor_kpca.py OK | 16:07 |
| deerishi | u said that the file would come in tests/data | 16:09 |
| deerishi | but nothing as such is coming | 16:09 |
| deerishi | i ran the python generator.py command with a couple of more files,but no such results/output came | 16:11 |
| deerishi | any suggestions? | 16:13 |
| deerishi | @HeikoS : u der? | 16:21 |
| @HeikoS | deerishi: yes sorry | 16:22 |
| mdragan | @lisitsyn: What should I use as input data for the sic estimation? The example in the sugested paper is applied to proteomics and the input dataset includes variables from 11 proteins for 7000 cells (observations). But the data is not public (I guess). | 16:22 |
| @HeikoS | let me check | 16:22 |
| @HeikoS | heiko@heiko-ThinkPad-T420:~/Desktop/shogun/shogun/tests/integration/python_modul | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | ar$ python generator.py regression_gaussian_process_modular.py | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | regression_gaussian_process_modular OK | 16:23 |
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| @HeikoS | this is what you get | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | then, a file in shogun/tests/integration/data/tests | 16:25 |
| @HeikoS | ist created | 16:25 |
| @HeikoS | if not, try use the exact path of the example as input for generator | 16:25 |
| deerishi | will try this one more ,n post the results on github in a few minutes | 16:33 |
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| deerishi | @HeikoS : could you check this https://github.com/deerishi/KernelPCA-test-check/commit/743d3d9bc373aa36b0ea4bb7065ed36ba8706a93#commitcomment-3100936 | 17:24 |
| deerishi | ? | 17:37 |
| deerishi | @HeikoS : u der? | 17:41 |
| @HeikoS | deerishi: | 17:52 |
| @HeikoS | this is a python error | 17:52 |
| @HeikoS | the function does not match the filename | 17:52 |
| @HeikoS | deerishi: see my comment in the above link, | 17:53 |
| @HeikoS | got to go now | 17:53 |
| @HeikoS | see you later | 17:53 |
| deerishi | which function do u mean? | 17:57 |
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| abinash | In the idea Interfacing and developing general quadratic programming library libqp, it has be stated integration of pr_loqo with libqp | 19:06 |
| abinash | What is the need of this integration? | 19:06 |
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| @iglesiasg | abinash: you may want to google what pr_loqo is to understand. It might also be a good idea to contact the mentor for specific questions about the project. | 19:34 |
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| @sonney2k | wiking, look at this - the buildbot becomes active! | 21:52 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #712 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/712 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>, iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, vladislav.horbatiuk@gmail.com <vladislav.horbatiuk@gmail.com>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>, Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 22:12 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: \o/ | 22:13 |
| @wiking | and we all participated in the failure \o/ :DDD | 22:13 |
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| @lisitsyn | wiking: http://managersmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/obama-yes-we-can.jpg | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | okidoki | 22:27 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I think it is totally fine to just ensure that a magic number fits | 22:27 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, each and every built is run | 22:27 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I meant tested - so we can easily determine the checkin that broke the build | 22:28 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, and then it is the submitter who has to fix this | 22:28 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, btw http://shogun-toolbox.org/demos/gp/entrance | 22:29 |
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| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I wonder why we always have constant variance - not good. | 22:30 |
| vgorbati | sonney2k, HeikoS, lisitsyn, wiking: it looks like all the main developers are here - good chance to ask my question:) I am preparing my application for the 'Improve dimensionality reduction module', and my question is: what is the main information you want to see in the application (apart from project ideas/schedule and my background)? | 22:32 |
| vgorbati | sonney2k, HeikoS, lisitsyn, wiking: also, any suggestions would be very appreciated | 22:33 |
| @lisitsyn | vgorbati: well we have a doc describing a few things we would like to see | 22:33 |
| @sonney2k | vgorbati, yeah what are you missing from the template? | 22:34 |
| @sonney2k | all applications we have received so far followed this structure... | 22:34 |
| vgorbati | I just wanted to ask beforehand whether there is something more, but if no - then I will just follow the template) | 22:36 |
| @lisitsyn | vgorbati: apart from that - not really but if you have suggestions.. | 22:36 |
| vgorbati | lisitsyn:no, no suggestions:) Okay, then I will just follow the template, thanks for your answers | 22:39 |
| @sonney2k | vgorbati, well the schedule and description about you (who you are/skills/what you contributed) are most important | 22:39 |
| vgorbati | sonney2k: understood, thanks. | 22:41 |
| mikhailBelous | Sorry, I wonder if it all right with georg, he said that he was ill and haven't resoponded for 5 days? | 22:41 |
| @lisitsyn | mikhailBelous: yes he is ok - do you have any question for him? | 22:42 |
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| @lisitsyn | if so please mail him again he may be swamped by mails again :) | 22:42 |
| mikhailBelous | Yes, I would like to talk to him about GSOC | 22:48 |
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| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, did you see what I meant? | 22:49 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, btw a colorbar would also be very helpful | 22:49 |
| mikhailBelous | wonder if he intrested in me. | 22:49 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, yes, i understand what you mean | 22:50 |
| @lisitsyn | mikhailBelous: we do require contributions from all students to be accepted - please keep that in mind | 22:51 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, but the countour plot of a perceptron is linear | 22:53 |
| dvalcarce | I can try to emphasize the colorscale | 22:53 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, I don't understand what you mean | 22:54 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, these colors are nice - but it is not clear which point will be classified as +1 and which as -1 | 22:54 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, ah ok | 22:55 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, should I add a colorbar? | 22:55 |
| @sonney2k | so contourline at f(x)=0.0 etc helps | 22:55 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, would be nice | 22:55 |
| @sonney2k | then one can see if we have a range of -0.001 ... 0.1 | 22:55 |
| @sonney2k | or -100 ... 100 | 22:56 |
| dvalcarce | all right | 22:56 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, one more thing | 22:56 |
| dvalcarce | i talked to foulwall this morning | 22:56 |
| dvalcarce | he said he will go for the demo project (#1) | 22:57 |
| @sonney2k | yes | 22:57 |
| dvalcarce | I was thinking about projects #1 and #3 | 22:57 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, so? | 22:58 |
| dvalcarce | lisitsyn and iglesiasg recommend us to send multiple proposals | 22:58 |
| @lisitsyn | oh guys I found a way how to remember when the gsoc ends | 22:58 |
| dvalcarce | it's that ok? | 22:58 |
| @lisitsyn | just recall earth wind and fire 'september' song :D | 22:58 |
| @lisitsyn | they missed two days though :( | 22:59 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, so you apply for two ideas you mean? | 22:59 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, exactly | 22:59 |
| @sonney2k | I thought one big application :) | 22:59 |
| @lisitsyn | ah bad boy dvalcarce doesn't believe me ;) | 22:59 |
| @lisitsyn | haha | 23:00 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: like that guy | 23:00 |
| @lisitsyn | that speaks machine code | 23:00 |
| dvalcarce | :P | 23:00 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, well yes when there are conflicts it helps | 23:00 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, but I would want to push you into #3 | 23:00 |
| @lisitsyn | dvalcarce: http://www.noisyroom.net/blog/respect.jpg :D | 23:00 |
| @sonney2k | of course we have to hope that we get enough slots from google | 23:00 |
| @sonney2k | otherwise we have to make grief causing hard decisions (not just for students but us too) | 23:01 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, heh | 23:01 |
| dvalcarce | haha, of course, I understand | 23:01 |
| dvalcarce | in fact, I prefer idea #3 | 23:02 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, so if you have any time once the contour / colorbar works better do stuff in that direction | 23:02 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, i am gonna finish contour now | 23:03 |
| dvalcarce | and tomorrow, i will work on idea #3 | 23:03 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, like e.g. write some small system that allows registered users to upload a small (size limit!) .csv file that is purely numerical | 23:03 |
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| dvalcarce | sonney2k, should I create a new django project? | 23:03 |
| @lisitsyn | and sends nothing as an answer | 23:03 |
| @lisitsyn | we will call it 'cvs disposer' | 23:03 |
| @lisitsyn | csv* | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, yes | 23:04 |
| dvalcarce | lisitsyn, sounds pretty useful! :) | 23:04 |
| @lisitsyn | dvalcarce: yes | 23:04 |
| @lisitsyn | dvalcarce: i'd say | 23:04 |
| @lisitsyn | sounds like a startup | 23:04 |
| @lisitsyn | here comes the motto | 23:04 |
| @lisitsyn | 'Send us any .CSV and we will take care' | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, dvalcarce yes then beat google predict/ etc and solve the 1 million$ kaggle competition | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | and then please buy me an island | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | and you know | 23:05 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: 1M$ is not enough | 23:05 |
| @lisitsyn | for an island | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, c'mon there must be one somewhere on maledives | 23:05 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: I bet they cost much more :D | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | it just has to stay above sea surface level for the next say 60 years | 23:06 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: 1 million is the minimal thievery level here in my country so it is just nothing | 23:06 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, hmmhh what do you think shouldn't we better also extract the demos from shogun-web? | 23:06 |
| @sonney2k | I am tempted to say yes | 23:07 |
| dvalcarce | sonney2k, I think it would be convenient | 23:07 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, bah then become a minimal thief and *help me out* ;) | 23:07 |
| dvalcarce | because they are kinda independent | 23:07 |
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| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, just do some most worty victim predictor | 23:08 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: if I was repairing roads here I could eat money | 23:08 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, so 3 repos right: shogun-web,shogun-demos,shogun-<weneedaname> | 23:08 |
| @lisitsyn | because each km costs more than your island | 23:08 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, golden roads | 23:09 |
| @sonney2k | looks like it is true what is said about russia | 23:09 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: one magazine once compared | 23:09 |
| @lisitsyn | what could be placed instead of an road | 23:09 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, shogun-temple? | 23:09 |
| @lisitsyn | with such cost | 23:09 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: temple? :D | 23:09 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: and it is like it could be *totally* covered by a few dollar notes layers | 23:10 |
| @sonney2k | for the SaaS thing | 23:10 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: yeah temple sounds crazy enough | 23:10 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: what is said about russia btw? | 23:10 |
| @lisitsyn | I wonder if you heard about roads :D | 23:11 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, maybe better bakufu | 23:11 |
| @lisitsyn | no idea what it is | 23:11 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: japanese names are in use by heroku :D | 23:12 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: why don't you like your native german crazy words | 23:12 |
| @sonney2k | "house of the general" | 23:12 |
| @sonney2k | german is boring | 23:12 |
| @lisitsyn | why shogun but not Oberbefehlshaber | 23:12 |
| @sonney2k | or blitzkrieg | 23:13 |
| @lisitsyn | yes blitzkrieg is nice | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | some might disagree | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | dvalcarce, shogun-baikufu ! | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | sry | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | bakufu | 23:13 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: eierlegendewollmilchsau is nice too | 23:14 |
| dvalcarce | haha | 23:14 |
| @lisitsyn | it makes the naming totally impossible to remember | 23:15 |
| dvalcarce | shogun-oktoberfest? | 23:15 |
| dvalcarce | people will remember it :P | 23:15 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: actually blitzkrieg would be a nice name if it didn't fail :D | 23:18 |
| @lisitsyn | otherwise that would mean something like an attempt to do the deal fast and get cold and die | 23:20 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, or shogunate ... http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/541431/shogunate | 23:26 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: you know I don't like anything japanese :D | 23:27 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, like shogun :D | 23:28 |
| @lisitsyn | sonney2k: yeah I don't really like the naming but it is that :) | 23:31 |
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