IRC logs of #shogun for Sunday, 2013-06-16

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--- Log opened Sun Jun 16 00:00:47 2013
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gsomixgood morning09:09
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lisitsynBufferAssSlice(PyObject *self, PyInt lo, PyInt hi, PyObject *val)12:25
lisitsyn:D12:25
lisitsynfrom vim sources12:25
gsomixlisitsyn: nice12:34
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gsomixsonney2k: are you around? hello.13:54
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gsomixlisitsyn: ti hui20:37
gsomixoops, not this window20:39
gsomixsorry20:39
gsomixsonney2k: good evening. are you around?20:39
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@sonney2kiglesiasg, around?22:14
@sonney2kgsomix, hey!22:17
gsomixsonney2k: hello. :)22:17
@sonney2kHeikoS, lisitsyn do you have time tomorrow evening to finish the workshop schedule?22:18
@HeikoSsonney2k: yes22:18
@HeikoSwhich time?22:18
@sonney2kevening22:18
@HeikoSsonney2k: currently working on the Satzung btw22:18
@HeikoSok I am free from 6pm German time22:18
@sonney2ksay 18:30 UTC22:19
@HeikoSsonney2k: mainly copying KDE's one22:19
@HeikoSok22:19
@sonney2kheh22:19
@sonney2kwe should finish the schedule and then send around an email to participants22:19
@HeikoSsonney2k: I aggree!22:19
@sonney2kseems like we got 26 or so registered people so about 30 it will be then I guess.22:20
@sonney2kI am currently trying to figure out how we get any video recording done22:20
@sonney2klets see22:20
@HeikoSnice22:21
gsomixsonney2k: what's the plan for further work?22:21
lisitsynre22:22
lisitsynsonney2k: yeah if it doesn't take a lot of time22:22
@sonney2kgsomix, did I miss anything?22:23
@sonney2kgsomix, are you done with the line reader now?22:23
gsomixsonney2k: yep. It's tested and documented.22:23
@HeikoSwiking: any news for the cloneing tests?22:24
@sonney2kgsomix, where is the test?22:24
@sonney2kgsomix, I see the example but please also make a test for both circular buffer and line reader under tests/unit/io22:25
@iglesiasgsonney2k: hey!22:25
@sonney2khey iglesiasg!22:26
@sonney2kseen that you got an email?22:26
@sonney2klet me pm you22:26
gsomixsonney2k: ahhh, my fault. did not know about tests/...22:27
@sonney2kgsomix, yeah we are enforcing this now to keep things working22:28
gsomixsonney2k: ok.22:29
@sonney2kiglesiasg, oki thanks!22:35
@sonney2kHeikoS, lisitsyn - iglesiasg is now managing our mailinglists22:35
lisitsynsonney2k: how?22:35
lisitsynwhat kind of management?22:36
@HeikoSiglesiasg: nice thanks! :)22:36
@HeikoSyou did a great job twittering already :)22:36
@iglesiasglisitsyn: I have got to accept what mails get in and what mails don't22:36
@iglesiasgHeikoS: thanks! :)22:36
lisitsyniglesiasg: oh like pre-moderating?22:37
@iglesiasglisitsyn: at least that is what I have done right now -- just remove some spam messages22:37
@HeikoSsonney2k: do you have lyx on your machine?22:37
lisitsyniglesiasg: I see22:37
@HeikoSsonney2k: shared the Satzung with you22:43
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@sonney2kiglesiasg, yeah nothing on todo22:47
@sonney2kgsomix, hey there22:56
gsomixsonney2k: mmm?22:57
@sonney2kgsomix, we have to think about something we can show / demonstrate as a result of your code.22:57
@sonney2kI know it is rather technical so maybe some technical demo then22:58
@sonney2kgsomix, e.g. a performance comparison in reading .csv / libsvm files or sth22:58
@HeikoSsonney2k: was that you?23:00
@sonney2kHeikoS, sorry what?23:00
@HeikoSdbox23:00
@HeikoSsonney2k: I just kicked somebody out23:01
@HeikoSsonney2k: ah sorry that probably was gunnar23:02
gsomixsonney2k: benchmarks and examples will enough, I think. maybe some "real life" examples.23:02
@sonney2kHeikoS, do you have *any* idea what real-life example for a task such as the one gsomix is doing (readers / writers for standard file formats) could be?23:04
@HeikoSehm sorry what?23:05
gsomixsonney2k: there is one question. we need some another (not shogun, I mean) code for comparsion.23:06
@sonney2kHeikoS, I hope you remember that for the next meeting we wanted to present real life examples that could be done for gsoc projects23:06
@HeikoSah yeah23:07
@HeikoSso which formats do you do?23:07
@sonney2kgsomix, well libsvm / svmlight / time cat file >/dev/null / etc23:07
@sonney2kHeikoS, well first of all ascii to perfection (.csv) then later arff and matlab23:08
@sonney2kreader + writer23:08
@HeikoSsonney2k: yeah csv should be priority23:08
@sonney2kit will need some refactoring in C*File*23:08
@HeikoSwell then just load some dataset?23:08
@HeikoSand do some cool thing with it23:09
@HeikoSor translate formats maybe?23:09
@HeikoSthat would be a nice idea23:09
@sonney2kHeikoS, you mean standard data sets?23:09
lisitsynyes translating sounds like a good idea23:09
@sonney2kHeikoS, hmmhh we have that in mldata-utils already23:09
@HeikoSsonney2k: yeah, make an example how to use shogun for all these std datasets for classificaiton outthere23:09
@HeikoSbut there is more than mldata23:09
@sonney2kHeikoS, mldata-utils!23:10
@sonney2kgeneral converter from format X -> Y23:10
@sonney2kcsv -> matlab23:10
@sonney2ketc etc23:10
@HeikoSah23:10
@HeikoSthen load a single dataset from different files?23:10
@HeikoSmost people give me data in csv23:10
@HeikoSor in matlab23:10
@HeikoSor csv without comas23:11
@sonney2kyeah and maybe some size comparison and compression23:11
@sonney2kgood enough23:11
@sonney2kgsomix, heard the man? We can do a) benchmarks as in just how fast reading / writing is (maybe comparing it to others but not necessary IMHO if we compare to cat file >/dev/null)23:12
@sonney2kb) do an application that converts format x -> y23:12
@sonney2kc) load in standard data sets with our reader and run some machine on it23:12
@sonney2kgood enough IMHO23:13
gsomixsonney2k: yes, sir. got it.23:13
gsomix:)23:13
@sonney2kgsomix, btw how difficult would it be to make it more generic as in read data from URL or even allow on-the-fly (de-)compression?23:13
gsomixsonney2k: hm, hard to tell. need to research.23:15
gsomixsonney2k: but if there are something like stream system with reading functions - not difficult.23:16
@sonney2kgsomix, or reading from a pipe so someone could do cat file | my_streaming_shogun_app or replace cat with wget -O -23:16
@sonney2ketc23:16
@sonney2kHeikoS, do you have access to shogun-publicity git?23:18
gsomixsonney2k: with pipes it's not difficult.23:18
@sonney2kgsomix, but you cannot use FILE then or?23:18
@sonney2kdon't you need fd?23:18
gsomixsonney2k: yep, I need. then we can make reader more configurable.23:20
gsomixadd something like source_type value23:20
gsomixand ther work with either FILE, or fd.23:21
gsomix*then23:22
@HeikoSsonney2k: not that I know23:23
* gsomix is trying call to memory lections about linux at uni...23:24
@sonney2kgsomix,        FILE *fdopen(int fd, const char *mode);23:24
@sonney2klooks like what you need then23:24
gsomixsonney2k: cool!23:25
@sonney2kHeikoS, shall I add the .lyx file or can you do it under the folder foundation ?23:26
@HeikoSsonney go ahead and add it, my father just called :)23:27
@sonney2kHeikoS, done23:29
@HeikoSnice :) maybe you can read it and then send it to the others for feedback23:31
@sonney2kHeikoS, when we have a Satzung (you copy & paste one is pretty nice btw) - what else do we need to do?23:31
@iglesiasggood night people23:32
@HeikoSsonney2k: see mail23:32
@HeikoSiglesiasg: good night!23:32
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@sonney2kHeikoS, which mail?23:33
@HeikoSI just sent one23:34
@sonney2kHeikoS, didn't get it yet23:34
@sonney2kHeikoS, better ask the KDE guys23:34
@HeikoSdebian.org23:34
@sonney2kabout copy&paste23:34
@HeikoSwill do23:34
@sonney2kHeikoS, ohh and btw lets cut darlehen from 10.000 -> 023:35
@sonney2kagreed?23:35
@HeikoSyes23:35
@sonney2kHeikoS, I don't get what you write about Vorstand23:36
@sonney2kit seems like 3 people are needed23:36
@sonney2kbut only 2 are mentioned?23:36
@sonney2kshouldn't it be 2 -> 3?23:36
@HeikoSkde has 723:36
@HeikoShas to be at least 1 by law :)23:37
@HeikoSwe can do any number23:37
@sonney2kok then lets put 3 there23:38
@sonney2kHeikoS, we should maybe also look how CCC e.V. and c-base e.V. do it23:38
@sonney2kHeikoS, and maybe the name shogun-toolbox e.V. is not good? I mean shouldn't it be more parseable for people not knowing the name?23:39
@HeikoSsonney thats both fine23:40
@HeikoSmaybe add a not to the lyx23:40
@HeikoSnote23:40
@sonney2kas in 'Verein zur foerderung freier wissenschaftlicher Software" ?23:40
@sonney2kmaybe with added " insbesondere im Bereich des Maschinellen Lernens"23:40
@sonney2kbut yes shogun-toolbox / shogun e.V. at the end makes sense23:41
@sonney2kHeikoS, didn't get your email, please resend to my shogun-toolbox.org address23:44
@sonney2kHeikoS, anyway I did my pass and committed23:44
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