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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: iglesias :develop * ad6fed6 / src/shogun/distance/ (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ad6fed6bb703099f6a8b845c7cbde2bf34eb87d6 | 01:03 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Add CustomMahalanobisDistance | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: iglesias :develop * ccf16f7 / tests/unit/distance/Distance_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ccf16f7629f1f7107658bdc27d773466ab2939d4 | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Very simple unit test for CustomMahalanobisDistance | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: iglesias :develop * 70d9fca / src/shogun/metric/LMNN.cpp,src/shogun/metric/LMNN.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/70d9fca923a8f5822f00de50500af98d324f3d74 | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: [WIP] Add LMNN without train method | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 384185f / / (6 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/384185f9c1aeb1f8213e63173f9407e27ea1099d | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1188 from iglesias/feature/metric | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 01:03 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Feature/metric | 01:03 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #974 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/974 blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 01:10 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #975 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/975 blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 01:12 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1142 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test_1] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1142 blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 01:18 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #976 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/976 blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 01:19 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/8444404 | 01:31 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #1265 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1265 blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 02:01 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #1266 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1266 | 02:14 |
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| thoralf | Hello *.* | 09:58 |
| lisitsyn | thoralf: hey | 09:59 |
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| van51 | hello | 11:04 |
| van51 | sonne|work: about your comment on the Tokenizer classes. I get what you;re saying, but I wanted to be able to use a custom Tokenizer and an n-gram Tokenizer interchangeably in the same workflow | 11:10 |
| sonne|work | yes but that would work right? | 11:11 |
| sonne|work | NGramTokenizer & DelimiterTokenizer? | 11:11 |
| sonne|work | van51: ^ | 11:12 |
| van51 | sonne|work: yeah it would work I believe | 11:13 |
| van51 | sonne|work: although now I'm confused as to whether you meant to maintain just one class of Tokenizers (what I understood) or to have the WhiteSpaceTokenizer I made into a DelimiterTokenizer | 11:13 |
| sonne|work | yes whitespacetokenizer -> delimitertokenizer | 11:14 |
| van51 | sonne|work: ok then :) | 11:15 |
| van51 | going to make some coffee and start coding :D | 11:15 |
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| sonne|work | go van51 go! | 11:40 |
| van51 | heh I'm on it ;) | 11:46 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: lambday :develop * 5bcdd54 / / (25 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5bcdd547fab1c0ba3cad5d915d9b67a27e62f29c | 12:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: params registered, sample modified (log-det), gitignore modified | 12:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 2aa7804 / / (25 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2aa78041e8717f39419c83f6ad8a52b50c0bd928 | 12:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1189 from lambday/feature/log_determinant | 12:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 12:10 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: params registered, sample modified (log-det), gitignore modified | 12:10 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #977 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/977 blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com> | 12:19 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #1145 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test_1] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1145 blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com> | 12:27 |
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS is back! | 12:35 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: yes! :) | 12:35 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1146 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test_1] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1146 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 12:37 |
| @HeikoS | serialization borken again :) | 12:37 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/8458606 | 12:39 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #978 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/978 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 12:41 |
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| lambday | HeikoS: heyyyy! :D | 13:02 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: heya! :) | 13:03 |
| lambday | how are you?? | 13:03 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: pretty good :) | 13:03 |
| @HeikoS | and yourself? | 13:03 |
| lambday | am good too :) | 13:03 |
| lambday | and the trip? | 13:03 |
| lambday | how many kms did you travel total? | 13:03 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: was very nice | 13:04 |
| @HeikoS | we did about 75km a day on average | 13:05 |
| @HeikoS | 5 days | 13:05 |
| lambday | great!!! :-o | 13:05 |
| lambday | in england? | 13:05 |
| @HeikoS | no Germany | 13:05 |
| @HeikoS | "M?nsterland" | 13:05 |
| @HeikoS | nice area | 13:05 |
| @HeikoS | lots of lakes, rivers and woods | 13:05 |
| @HeikoS | and it rained every day | 13:05 |
| lambday | ah..classic! may be we'll get to see some photos :) | 13:06 |
| lambday | lol @10^6 emails :P | 13:06 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: no photos made | 13:07 |
| @HeikoS | just pure cycling | 13:07 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: yeah emails are quite a bit | 13:07 |
| lambday | hmm... | 13:07 |
| @HeikoS | spending the early morning on working thorugh them :) | 13:07 |
| @HeikoS | liked your patches | 13:07 |
| @HeikoS | looks like the general framework is well set up | 13:07 |
| lambday | thanks... by the way, I thought of making it uint64_t (m_dimension) but then changed it, what do you think? | 13:07 |
| lambday | yeah! | 13:07 |
| lambday | can't wait to see it working for approximation case | 13:08 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: I dont know, maybe leave it for now | 13:08 |
| lambday | alright | 13:08 |
| @HeikoS | 2^31 -1 is quite a bit already | 13:08 |
| lambday | hmm | 13:08 |
| lambday | I coded up CLinearSolver and CDirectLinearSolverComplex... | 13:08 |
| lambday | shall I send the PR now? | 13:09 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: nice, yeah show me what you got | 13:09 |
| lambday | okay... sending | 13:09 |
| lambday | HeikoS: sent | 13:11 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: what solver is this? | 13:12 |
| lambday | llt | 13:12 |
| @HeikoS | llt | 13:12 |
| @HeikoS | so only PSD matrices | 13:12 |
| lambday | yes | 13:12 |
| @HeikoS | we should somehow reflect this in the same | 13:12 |
| @HeikoS | or even a different approiach: | 13:12 |
| @HeikoS | there should be an enum to select how to solve the system | 13:12 |
| lambday | and we initialize it in the constructor | 13:13 |
| @HeikoS | I suggest: Cholesky, QR-no permutation, QR-col-permutation, QR-full-permutation, and SVD | 13:13 |
| @HeikoS | its only for dense matrices right? | 13:13 |
| lambday | yes | 13:13 |
| @HeikoS | http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/dox/TopicLinearAlgebraDecompositions.html | 13:14 |
| lambday | okay.. | 13:14 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: sorry to make this more complicated | 13:14 |
| @HeikoS | but then we are on the safe side | 13:14 |
| @HeikoS | SVD being ultra stable | 13:14 |
| @HeikoS | QR being tradeoff between fast and accurate | 13:15 |
| @HeikoS | and for PSD LLT is both | 13:15 |
| lambday | HeikoS: yeah... okay.. so, solve will have switch cases, and depending on some enum EDirectSolverType, it will use corresponding solvers | 13:16 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: yeah, that should be minor code changes since its all in eigen3 | 13:16 |
| @HeikoS | just the enum | 13:16 |
| @HeikoS | and init it to LLT | 13:16 |
| @HeikoS | cholesky | 13:16 |
| lambday | HeikoS: alright.. | 13:17 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: oh and make sure you use the rank-revealing features of eigen | 13:17 |
| @HeikoS | e.g. llt fails if matrix is not psd | 13:17 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: gotta make a phone call, be back in a few minutes | 13:17 |
| lambday | HeikoS: okay, I'm checking | 13:18 |
| thoralf | HeikoS: Is your eclipse confused by "#ifndef _XXX__H__" and greys the whole class? | 13:18 |
| @HeikoS | thoralf: which file? | 13:18 |
| thoralf | HeikoS: _BINARY_LABELS__H__ | 13:18 |
| thoralf | HeikoS: BinaryLabels.h | 13:18 |
| @HeikoS | thoralf: checking ... | 13:18 |
| thoralf | HeikoS: But it also affects other files. | 13:18 |
| @HeikoS | thoralf: yes | 13:19 |
| thoralf | HeikoS: Adding another underscore to the define fixes this, but I don't know why. | 13:19 |
| @HeikoS | thoralf: wow I always completely ignored/not noticed that :) | 13:19 |
| thoralf | HeikoS: This also affects auto completion. | 13:19 |
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| @HeikoS | thoralf: there should be no underscore at the beginning of defines anyway | 13:19 |
| @HeikoS | c++ style standard | 13:20 |
| @HeikoS | removing also makes it non-gray | 13:20 |
| @HeikoS | thoralf: how is eclipse going apart from that? | 13:20 |
| thoralf | HeikoS: Sorry, don't understand the question. | 13:20 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: what's the standard stating that ;) | 13:21 |
| thoralf | https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=313933 | 13:22 |
| thoralf | Seems related. | 13:23 |
| sonne|work | HeikoS, lisitsyn can we finalize the workshop program this evening? | 13:24 |
| lisitsyn | sonne|work: I am available | 13:24 |
| sonne|work | if you can please already prepare the schedule | 13:25 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: ^ | 13:25 |
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| lisitsyn | sonne|work: I am a bit lost - any template? | 13:27 |
| sonne|work | lisitsyn: just when who gives which talk | 13:27 |
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| Rasmi | while compiling one example ie. classifier_minimal_svm.cpp it shows error ie. undefined reference to SGMatrix<float 64_t>.... etc | 13:30 |
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| @HeikoS | lambday, thoralf, lisitsyn back | 14:27 |
| lambday | HeikoS: wb | 14:27 |
| @HeikoS | sonne|work: yes can do, which time? | 14:27 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: how are the solvers going? | 14:28 |
| sonne|work | HeikoS: evening 20hrs | 14:28 |
| lambday | HeikoS: was away, just checking.. will update the PR soon :) | 14:28 |
| @HeikoS | sonne|work: thats 19h here, fine for me, although earlier would be better | 14:29 |
| @HeikoS | sonne|work: BTW i will be in Berlin from Wednesday, so if there is any need of organising things locally before Friday, I could help | 14:29 |
| sonne|work | HeikoS: ahh btw we have a room at the TU for the weekend! | 14:30 |
| @HeikoS | sonne|work: nice! | 14:31 |
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| thoralf | I don't understand MulticlassMachine::get_submachine_outputs() - how is it possible to call (CMachine*)machine->apply_binary() without arguments? | 14:54 |
| thoralf | I can only find implementations with signature "CBinaryLabels* apply_binary(CFeatures *)" | 14:55 |
| thoralf | Am I missing something? | 14:55 |
| @iglesiasg | thoralf, a machine has a CFeatures* member | 15:06 |
| @iglesiasg | if apply is called without arguments, then these ones are used | 15:06 |
| @iglesiasg | check the signature in the headers, they should be with a default argument | 15:07 |
| @iglesiasg | something like apply_binary(CFeatures* features = NULL) | 15:07 |
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| thoralf | iglesiasg: Yes, thanks. The "magic" happens in apply_get_outputs() | 15:39 |
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| pickle27 | hey everyone | 16:07 |
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| pickle27 | guys Im have a heck of time trying to read a csv matrix into an SGMatrix properly | 16:08 |
| pickle27 | I keep getting some really weird orderings in the variable | 16:08 |
| pickle27 | Im using CAsciiFile to load the matrix | 16:09 |
| pickle27 | It loads my matrix as a transpose which makes sense according to the documentation but for some reason I can't untranspose it properly | 16:10 |
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| pickle27 | I've got it working fine now but it seems like their might be a better way | 16:20 |
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| pickle27 | for the record here is my solution http://pastebin.com/hNNNf4nc | 16:21 |
| pickle27 | I'm loading a csv file created from R, its a 10x300 csv and I need to load it and re shape it into a 10x10x30 ndarray | 16:21 |
| lambday | HeikoS: there?? | 16:22 |
| pickle27 | if anyone has an idea for a better solution I'd love to see it | 16:22 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: yep, hi! | 16:22 |
| lambday | HeikoS: except FullPivHouseholderQR, everything else seems to fail for even a small matrix for complex | 16:23 |
| lambday | the matrix I am testing with is | 16:23 |
| lambday | 2, 1+2i | 16:23 |
| lisitsyn | pickle27: so you are loading 3d matrix? | 16:23 |
| lambday | 1+2i, 3 | 16:23 |
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| lambday | b=[1,1] | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: do real matrices work? | 16:23 |
| pickle27 | lisitsyn: R flattens it for you though | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | did you check the condition number? | 16:23 |
| pickle27 | lisitsyn: so I need to re form it in 3D | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | oh well thats small | 16:24 |
| lambday | 1.7705 | 16:24 |
| @HeikoS | I mean small matrix | 16:24 |
| @HeikoS | real matrices? | 16:24 |
| lambday | for real, llt works | 16:24 |
| lambday | (I mean, just keeping the complex part 0) | 16:24 |
| lambday | rest, I wanted it to work with complex | 16:24 |
| lambday | oh, and we'll have complex in the diagonal | 16:24 |
| @HeikoS | is there some documentation for eigen's complex solvers? | 16:24 |
| lambday | so no use of using LLT at all | 16:25 |
| lambday | HeikoS: not that I ran into.. specific complex cases are there for eigensolvers | 16:25 |
| lambday | m\b gives | 16:26 |
| lambday | 0.26804 - 0.10309i | 16:26 |
| lambday | 0.17526 - 0.14433i | 16:26 |
| @HeikoS | octave I assume? | 16:26 |
| lambday | yep | 16:26 |
| lambday | I didn't make this class template cause we'll only use it for complex purpose | 16:27 |
| lambday | is that okay? | 16:27 |
| pickle27 | I realize that CAsciiFile was done writing a column to a row for efficiency but its sometimes kind of inconvenient no? | 16:28 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: dont know | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | I think yes | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | there is a talk here now, will be back in 1 hr, sorry | 16:29 |
| lambday | HeikoS: no problem :) | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: I was wrong, no talk now, but in 30 mins | 16:31 |
| lambday | HeikoS: okay :) | 16:31 |
| lambday | so what shall we do? :-/ | 16:31 |
| @HeikoS | what does eigen say? | 16:32 |
| lambday | I didn't see anything specific for complex for these | 16:33 |
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| lambday | I'm checking | 16:33 |
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| lambday | HeikoS: theoretically, non-hermitan matrices shouldn't be used with LLT, right? cholesky assumes it to be hermitan spd | 16:38 |
| lambday | hermitian | 16:38 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: yep | 16:38 |
| lambday | so, we'll have complex shifts... which will be in the diagonal | 16:38 |
| lambday | that will make it non-hermitian | 16:39 |
| lambday | :-/ | 16:39 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: yep, but so what? | 16:40 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: wait | 16:40 |
| lambday | okay | 16:40 |
| @HeikoS | I solved them with Cholesky sometimes IIRC | 16:40 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: no my mind tricks me | 16:41 |
| @HeikoS | cannot be | 16:41 |
| lambday | I was trying on octave... | 16:41 |
| lambday | n = | 16:41 |
| lambday | 5 + 2i 1 + 2i | 16:41 |
| lambday | 1 + 2i 3 + 4i | 16:41 |
| lambday | n = | 16:41 |
| lambday | 5 + 2i 1 + 2i | 16:41 |
| lambday | 1 + 2i 3 + 4i | 16:41 |
| lambday | oops! sorry | 16:42 |
| lambday | hol(n,'lower')*chol(n) | 16:42 |
| lambday | ans = | 16:42 |
| lambday | 5.0000 + 0.0000i 1.0000 + 2.0000i | 16:42 |
| lambday | 1.0000 + 2.0000i 1.4000 + 0.8000i | 16:42 |
| lambday | argh! | 16:42 |
| @HeikoS | ah oray, I was using backslash sorry | 16:42 |
| lambday | hmmm | 16:43 |
| @HeikoS | just wondering what matlab uses with backslash | 16:43 |
| @HeikoS | I think Gaussian elemination | 16:43 |
| lambday | hmmm | 16:44 |
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| @HeikoS | lambday: the direct solvers are more or less only for debuggin right? | 16:46 |
| lambday | umm... yeah | 16:46 |
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| lambday | sort of... | 16:46 |
| lambday | I mean, they will almost never be used | 16:46 |
| lambday | we'll use preconditioned CG, so | 16:47 |
| gsomix | good evening? | 16:47 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: then just go for svd | 16:47 |
| lambday | that doesn't work :( | 16:47 |
| lambday | QR-full does | 16:47 |
| @HeikoS | do it via the enum (so it can be extended, maybe well add QR) | 16:48 |
| @HeikoS | what does svd tell you? | 16:48 |
| lambday | svd gives an answer though.. | 16:48 |
| lambday | but that's not correct | 16:48 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: which answer? | 16:48 |
| lambday | solution vec | 16:48 |
| @HeikoS | and that is wrong??? | 16:48 |
| lambday | (Ax-b).norm/b.norm = 0.7 something | 16:49 |
| lambday | JacobiSVD | 16:49 |
| @HeikoS | which dimension? | 16:49 |
| @HeikoS | wow | 16:49 |
| @HeikoS | that sucks | 16:49 |
| lambday | 2x2 | 16:49 |
| @HeikoS | no that cannot be | 16:49 |
| @HeikoS | maybe an issue with complex number operators? | 16:50 |
| lambday | ours | 16:50 |
| lambday | ? | 16:50 |
| @HeikoS | yes, how does eigen store complex matrices? | 16:50 |
| lambday | using std::complex only | 16:50 |
| lambday | and full-perm QR works just fine | 16:50 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: its weird, SVD has the best accuracy of all algorithms | 16:50 |
| @HeikoS | optimal one | 16:51 |
| @HeikoS | what does the full QR give? | 16:51 |
| lambday | may be the complex version isn't working yet? | 16:51 |
| lambday | umm | 16:51 |
| lambday | rel error 0.0 | 16:51 |
| lambday | exactly what I get from octave | 16:51 |
| lambday | (0.268041,-0.103093) | 16:51 |
| lambday | (0.175258,-0.14433) | 16:51 |
| @HeikoS | http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/dox/Eigen2ToEigen3.html | 16:52 |
| @HeikoS | maybe this? | 16:52 |
| lambday | 0.26804 - 0.10309i | 16:52 |
| lambday | 0.17526 - 0.14433i | 16:52 |
| lambday | chekcing | 16:52 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: do you use solve of the SVD class or do you do that by hand? | 16:53 |
| @HeikoS | based on the factors? | 16:53 |
| lambday | solve of the class.. | 16:54 |
| lambday | I am using JacobiSVD only, that's in Eigen3 | 16:54 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: ok, since its not really important, just use the full QR then | 16:55 |
| lambday | drop all the rest? | 16:55 |
| @HeikoS | but with an enum that can be changed and switch in the solve method | 16:55 |
| lambday | alright | 16:55 |
| @HeikoS | leave them in but add a warning or so | 16:55 |
| @HeikoS | we want this to work, but its not important now | 16:55 |
| lambday | okay... so removing these testcases except full QR.. | 16:56 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: make sure to try some other (larger) matrices | 16:56 |
| lambday | okay | 16:56 |
| lambday | I'm checking | 16:56 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: there must be an error somewhere since the SVD in eigen is stable | 16:57 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: maybe produce a small reproducable example and post it to the eigen3 forum | 16:57 |
| lambday | HeikoS: okay.. | 16:58 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: btw eigen guys are sooo unhappy with the current svd implementation | 16:58 |
| @HeikoS | developers or users? | 16:59 |
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS: devs | 17:06 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: did not know that | 17:08 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: well QR is also nice : | 17:08 |
| @HeikoS | :) | 17:08 |
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS: some students working on divide and conquer SVD | 17:09 |
| lisitsyn | so they are expecting to improve some day | 17:09 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: nice! | 17:09 |
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| lambday | HeikoS: something is weird.. I tested again and SVD, QR (all 3) works.. LLT fails however.. | 18:09 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: which did you change? | 18:09 |
| @HeikoS | and what type of systems? | 18:09 |
| lambday | pd.. same matrix | 18:10 |
| lambday | complex | 18:10 |
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| lambday | I'm adding separate tests for all these.. I must have done something wrong earlier | 18:12 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: well, that sounds good then :) | 18:12 |
| @HeikoS | since LLT cannot work anyways | 18:12 |
| lambday | yeah! | 18:12 |
| lambday | yep | 18:12 |
| lambday | so, should we change the default to something else, svd | 18:12 |
| lambday | ? | 18:12 |
| @HeikoS | yeah SVD, or the half-pivot QR since eigen people dont like their svd, you can choose :) | 18:13 |
| lambday | well, svd is slow | 18:13 |
| lambday | so I am thinking qr | 18:13 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: okay then | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | if its possible to choose, we dont hurt ourselves anyway | 18:15 |
| lambday | yes | 18:15 |
| lambday | :) | 18:15 |
| lambday | HeikoS: updated | 18:25 |
| lambday | could you please check it? | 18:25 |
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| lambday | oh wait.. I forgot to remove something | 18:33 |
| lambday | HeikoS: updated! tested with old eigen3 too... | 18:43 |
| lambday | HeikoS: please check.. I'll be back in an hour | 18:43 |
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| van51 | why does every SG_PRINT show tha name of the function? | 19:06 |
| van51 | i remember it being asked again but I don't remember seeing the answer | 19:06 |
| @HeikoS | van51: because we made it (for some reason) | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | only debug is supposed to do this | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | van51: feel free to change, its all in SGIO.h | 19:08 |
| van51 | HeikoS: okie :) | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: there is no PR | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | van51: seems weird to me btw :) only makes sense for error/warning/debug | 19:09 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, well about the print stuff I asked you if this is what you had in mind ... | 20:01 |
| @sonney2k | anyways HeikoS, lisitsyn around? | 20:01 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: yes | 20:01 |
| @sonney2k | time to finalize the program | 20:01 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: then we got each other wrong | 20:01 |
| @HeikoS | print should stay unchanged in my eyes | 20:01 |
| @HeikoS | but the others should not | 20:01 |
| @HeikoS | anyways | 20:01 |
| @HeikoS | lets talk about the workshop | 20:01 |
| @sonney2k | http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/workshop2013_program | 20:01 |
| @sonney2k | that was what we had | 20:01 |
| @HeikoS | we dont have posters | 20:02 |
| lambday | HeikoS: back | 20:02 |
| lambday | HeikoS: I updated the same PR https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/1190 | 20:02 |
| @HeikoS | and we dont have user contributed talks | 20:02 |
| @HeikoS | so I suggest we remove them | 20:02 |
| @sonney2k | lambday, please postpone the discussion for 30 mins - thanks | 20:02 |
| @HeikoS | lambday: will have a look after this meeting | 20:03 |
| lambday | sonney2k: okay.. no problem :) | 20:03 |
| lambday | HeikoS: yes :) | 20:03 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: alright let me put it into gdoc | 20:03 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, IIRC we had that in gdoc | 20:03 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: like spreadsheet? | 20:03 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg transferred this to the website | 20:03 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k, lisitsyn how many talks will there be? | 20:03 |
| @HeikoS | one from each of us? | 20:03 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, well how many speakers do we have? | 20:03 |
| @HeikoS | we have a google doc for that too | 20:03 |
| @HeikoS | wait | 20:03 |
| @HeikoS | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Amig4CX9mHQbdG1lQ1lNcDFsYUluZnA5ZDBiT0N1VHc | 20:04 |
| lisitsyn | ooh these gdocs are unmanageable | 20:04 |
| @HeikoS | we have 5 people | 20:04 |
| @HeikoS | if gunnar comes | 20:04 |
| lisitsyn | does gunnar come? | 20:04 |
| @HeikoS | and svm/mkl were two topics in the list that people voted for | 20:04 |
| @HeikoS | and GPS/ kernel-stats both were in there two | 20:05 |
| @sonney2k | sure | 20:05 |
| @HeikoS | so there is the potential for 5+2 talks | 20:05 |
| @HeikoS | where one is the intro from gunnar | 20:05 |
| @HeikoS | question is whether thats too much developer stuff | 20:05 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, no I meant when we did the planning we came up with some schedule IIRC | 20:05 |
| @sonney2k | but no idea where that is | 20:05 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: yeah I am trying to find it | 20:06 |
| @sonney2k | no idea it is gone I guess | 20:07 |
| lisitsyn | strange | 20:07 |
| @HeikoS | doesnt matter too much does it? | 20:07 |
| @HeikoS | the one on the weppage is goog enough to do it now | 20:07 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, btw after this we need to do the PO number for GSoC money stuff btw | 20:07 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, true | 20:07 |
| @HeikoS | sonney sure | 20:07 |
| @HeikoS | so how many talks? | 20:07 |
| @HeikoS | we are mostly on our own anyways ;) | 20:07 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, now we have 29 rows btw | 20:07 |
| @HeikoS | nice | 20:08 |
| lisitsyn | heh two from me | 20:08 |
| @HeikoS | the votes should not have changed too much though | 20:08 |
| @sonney2k | heh | 20:08 |
| lisitsyn | referals :D | 20:08 |
| lisitsyn | you may notice their russian names | 20:08 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: the last one is vojtech's student! | 20:08 |
| lisitsyn | originally from my city what a coincidence :D | 20:09 |
| @HeikoS | so again for the talks, no user talks, no posters, what to do instead? | 20:09 |
| @HeikoS | just have us talking and provide some space for discussions? | 20:09 |
| @HeikoS | and maybe hacking sessions? | 20:09 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: yes I think so | 20:09 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, it is actually not so bad we can have a more relaxed program | 20:09 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, please post the current schedule in some gdoc | 20:10 |
| @HeikoS | Maybe the talks should end with some tasks that people could solve, to get their hands on some of the things | 20:10 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: doing | 20:10 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: agreed | 20:10 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, yeah we can do some hands-on during / after the talks | 20:10 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: thats pretty nice then | 20:10 |
| @HeikoS | how long the talks? | 20:11 |
| @HeikoS | what to talk about? | 20:11 |
| @sonney2k | I would say about 40 mins then per talk | 20:11 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: thats long, we had 15 mins in the old schedule | 20:11 |
| @sonney2k | 5 talks right? | 20:11 |
| @sonney2k | yes we squeezed it into 15 | 20:11 |
| @HeikoS | what about some 30 mins and then another 30 mins for people to try things out? | 20:11 |
| @sonney2k | but now we can relax it | 20:12 |
| @HeikoS | (including breaks and setting up the next one) | 20:12 |
| @sonney2k | gunnar can do a 1 hour keynote | 20:12 |
| lisitsyn | lets put a hour then | 20:12 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: question also is whether we combine some talk topics | 20:12 |
| @HeikoS | SVM/MKL can be combined right? | 20:12 |
| @HeikoS | but GPs/Kernel tests cannot :) | 20:13 |
| lisitsyn | what is poster sessions? | 20:13 |
| @sonney2k | then each talk can contain the theory and already in the talk practical sessions | 20:13 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, dead | 20:13 |
| lisitsyn | right | 20:13 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: what do we do when having food? | 20:13 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, yes I can do all kinds of SVMs & MKL | 20:13 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 20:13 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, eat ! | 20:13 |
| lisitsyn | just talk to each other I guess | 20:13 |
| lisitsyn | well no poster sessions so just food | 20:14 |
| @sonney2k | and eat :D | 20:14 |
| @HeikoS | so 5hrs of talks/session | 20:14 |
| @HeikoS | including the keynote | 20:14 |
| @HeikoS | thats enough for a day | 20:14 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: intensive shit | 20:14 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 20:14 |
| lisitsyn | we will get out dying | 20:14 |
| @HeikoS | I suggest to do things relaxed | 20:14 |
| @HeikoS | take time in the talks etc | 20:14 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: yes and turn on some bob marley songs | 20:14 |
| @sonney2k | yes not NIPS conference level for sure | 20:14 |
| @sonney2k | but really slow if possible | 20:15 |
| @HeikoS | dont know that :D | 20:15 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, slow? | 20:15 |
| @sonney2k | always rushing heh? | 20:15 |
| @HeikoS | NIPS | 20:15 |
| @HeikoS | havent been there yet ;) | 20:15 |
| @sonney2k | this year right? | 20:15 |
| @HeikoS | nono, I am never rushing | 20:15 |
| @HeikoS | hopefully, we'll see | 20:15 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, where is the doc? | 20:15 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: will share in a minute | 20:16 |
| @HeikoS | ok then with the intro/speeddating and the final discussion and lunch, thats a lot of stuff | 20:16 |
| @sonney2k | I woudl suggest we do 1 hour gunnar for the ML tutorial as a start | 20:16 |
| @HeikoS | maybe we should even go for 45 mins instead | 20:16 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: HeikoS shared | 20:16 |
| @sonney2k | then directly lunch | 20:16 |
| @HeikoS | yep agreed | 20:17 |
| @HeikoS | what about this shogun in bioinformatics ? | 20:17 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k you could talk about that during MKL/SVM maybe? | 20:17 |
| @HeikoS | the genome stuff you did | 20:17 |
| @sonney2k | then I we somehow have to do a basic shogun tutorial. basic as in what for / how to install / let people install | 20:18 |
| @sonney2k | maybe extend this with SVMs & MKL | 20:18 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: ok | 20:18 |
| @HeikoS | no a seperate thing would be cool to have | 20:18 |
| @HeikoS | you probably have some talks about shogun on disc ? | 20:18 |
| @HeikoS | general overview etc | 20:19 |
| @sonney2k | no good ones | 20:19 |
| @HeikoS | still you are suited best for this one ;) | 20:19 |
| @sonney2k | maybe we can do this quickly in 15-30 mins | 20:19 |
| @HeikoS | btw in the SVM one you should mention some x-validation stuff since that is not talked about otherwise | 20:20 |
| @HeikoS | yep agreed | 20:20 |
| @sonney2k | then I am not sure what to do with the 4 tutorials | 20:20 |
| @HeikoS | 30 mins then everyone can install | 20:20 |
| @HeikoS | what about having two-coffee-two? | 20:20 |
| @sonney2k | and we really need to have some discussions | 20:20 |
| @HeikoS | I suggest to do the talks not too long | 20:21 |
| @HeikoS | then afterwards there is room for discussion and to try | 20:21 |
| @HeikoS | trying out should only be reproducing things | 20:21 |
| @HeikoS | like one slide that is left on | 20:21 |
| @sonney2k | we have to know what we want to discuss about | 20:21 |
| @HeikoS | if the talk is only 35-40 mins, there is plenty of time | 20:21 |
| @sonney2k | as I've seen future of shogun is a topic | 20:22 |
| @HeikoS | just give some room after each talk I would say, and a guided one later on | 20:22 |
| @HeikoS | after the talks | 20:22 |
| @sonney2k | shogun development process the other | 20:22 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k, yeah | 20:22 |
| @HeikoS | but that should be seperate afterwards dont you think? | 20:22 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: are you typing the times? | 20:22 |
| @sonney2k | and shogun in new environments | 20:23 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: yes | 20:23 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: well just draft to estimate | 20:23 |
| @HeikoS | I would do 1 hr slots for each talk/questions/session | 20:23 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, we have to mix this in | 20:23 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: 1hr per talk? | 20:23 |
| @sonney2k | otherwise it is too much talks and people just fall asleep | 20:23 |
| lisitsyn | sounds too much | 20:23 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: not talking time but everything | 20:23 |
| @HeikoS | short break, try out the things maybe, ask some questions | 20:24 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: I agree, so what about two discussion sessions then? | 20:24 |
| lisitsyn | I see no place for sessions then HeikoS? | 20:24 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, yes makes sense | 20:24 |
| @HeikoS | there should be some headroom for spontaneous discussions in my eyes | 20:25 |
| @HeikoS | so the 1 hr x 4 seems good | 20:26 |
| @HeikoS | + 2x30 mins for diccussions | 20:26 |
| @HeikoS | maybe we set a red line for each of them | 20:26 |
| @HeikoS | first one should be more user-related, second one can be more dev-related | 20:26 |
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| @HeikoS | and one coffee break can be combined with discussion? | 20:27 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I would say there are mostly users there | 20:27 |
| lisitsyn | iglesiasg: join our discussion | 20:27 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, maybe we have a coffee break just before the discussion | 20:27 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: my idea was just to put the stuff that mostly interests us to the end (if people want to go) | 20:27 |
| @sonney2k | other way round | 20:27 |
| iglesiasg | lisitsyn: that's why I am here :) | 20:27 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, well we have saturday & sunday for that too | 20:27 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: ok | 20:28 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, we should figure out what users want /expect | 20:28 |
| @HeikoS | then its pretty simple now | 20:28 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: well thats what the form was for right? | 20:28 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, open the gdoc and do the changes | 20:28 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, no not helpful | 20:28 |
| @sonney2k | they only clicked points they kew | 20:28 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 20:28 |
| @sonney2k | we gave them I mean | 20:28 |
| * sonney2k tired | 20:29 | |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: so then there should be a free slot maybe | 20:29 |
| @HeikoS | which we can fill by demand (optional) | 20:29 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I would do that in the coffee / lunch break / discussions | 20:30 |
| @HeikoS | what about putting the shogun intro before the lunch? | 20:31 |
| iglesiasg | there won't be poster sessions at the end then? | 20:31 |
| iglesiasg | none applied? | 20:31 |
| @HeikoS | iglesiasg: nope ;) | 20:31 |
| iglesiasg | too sad | 20:31 |
| lisitsyn | iglesiasg: are you up to show us some SO? | 20:32 |
| @HeikoS | we really should make sure that the tutorials are nice with lots of applications and pictures | 20:32 |
| @HeikoS | otherwise its too much | 20:32 |
| lisitsyn | sure | 20:32 |
| iglesiasg | lisitsyn: I could talk about how to do SO in Shogun | 20:32 |
| iglesiasg | rather than SO in general since many people there will actually know more about it than me :D | 20:32 |
| @HeikoS | iglesiasg: I think it should be a mix | 20:33 |
| lisitsyn | well same holds for dimension reduction :D | 20:33 |
| @HeikoS | same holds for all gsoc projects :D | 20:33 |
| @HeikoS | but thats not bad | 20:33 |
| @HeikoS | I dont know any SO so happy to get an intro | 20:34 |
| @HeikoS | same with dimension reduction actually | 20:34 |
| @HeikoS | so does everyone agree with the schedule? | 20:34 |
| lisitsyn | looks ok | 20:34 |
| @HeikoS | then we need to set the order of the talks | 20:34 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, we need to put names to the talks | 20:34 |
| @HeikoS | yep | 20:34 |
| @sonney2k | times are ok with everyone? | 20:35 |
| @HeikoS | I take the second :) | 20:35 |
| @sonney2k | I made tutorial 3 & 4 45 mins only | 20:35 |
| @sonney2k | the other 1 hour | 20:35 |
| @HeikoS | ah thats good then we can fit in the double ones in there | 20:35 |
| iglesiasg | I think times are ok | 20:36 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: what do you think about this mixture of GPs and kernel mmd | 20:36 |
| @HeikoS | GPs are somehow very relatedto SVMs | 20:36 |
| @HeikoS | so might be a bit redundant | 20:36 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: no no | 20:37 |
| @HeikoS | ? | 20:37 |
| lisitsyn | nobody understands GPs | 20:37 |
| lisitsyn | so please keep it | 20:37 |
| lisitsyn | you and votjakovr may be | 20:37 |
| lisitsyn | but not me | 20:37 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 20:37 |
| @HeikoS | ok then | 20:37 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: what do you think on the kernel MMD stuff? | 20:37 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, what was the prio list again | 20:37 |
| iglesiasg | I will be able to re-use the slides from my final degree project presentation for the tutorial :) | 20:38 |
| @sonney2k | for some reason I cannot find the doc | 20:38 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, but I would love to learn more about MMD too :D | 20:38 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: I don't know | 20:38 |
| @HeikoS | I would like to talk aobut it since it is something new | 20:38 |
| @HeikoS | GPs and SVMs are quite mature already | 20:38 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: would be nice if you take a look at most methods as MKL cases | 20:39 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, the mature stuff is of course the one practitioners are interested in and the researchers want the new stuff | 20:39 |
| lisitsyn | I mean lasso is MKL | 20:39 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: sure | 20:39 |
| lisitsyn | deep learning is mkl | 20:39 |
| lisitsyn | etc | 20:39 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 20:39 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, no deep learning is not (not convex like mkl and certainly more layers) | 20:40 |
| iglesiasg | https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0bolzzxgr669sg/fjig_pfc_slides.pdf | 20:40 |
| @HeikoS | so any suggestions for this clash? | 20:40 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: yeah sure, jk | 20:40 |
| iglesiasg | take a look guys in case you want to use any of the figures I have there ^ | 20:40 |
| iglesiasg | it is in Spanish but figures do not talk any language :) | 20:40 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, you will give the talk | 20:41 |
| lisitsyn | iglesiasg: yes :D | 20:41 |
| lisitsyn | did you know you are going to give a talk? | 20:41 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, so just do it in english and add more shogun howto in there then you are good | 20:41 |
| iglesiasg | sonney2k, lisitsyn yes | 20:41 |
| iglesiasg | but for instance at the beginning I am talking there about SVMs | 20:41 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, well you could do 2 tutorials then | 20:41 |
| iglesiasg | maybe sonney2k wants to use any of the figures there | 20:41 |
| lisitsyn | iglesiasg: ahh that's what you mean | 20:42 |
| @HeikoS | too much | 20:42 |
| @HeikoS | or two short ones | 20:42 |
| iglesiasg | lisitsyn: :) | 20:42 |
| @HeikoS | Ill try that | 20:42 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: what if you do | 20:42 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, I will use shogun demos :D | 20:42 |
| lisitsyn | SVM, GPs, MKL, MMD | 20:42 |
| iglesiasg | sonney2k: all right ;) | 20:42 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, or GPs and an a brief MMD | 20:42 |
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| iglesiasg | I have generated many there with Shogun anyway | 20:42 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: yeah thats fine | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | anyway we have to finalize this now | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, could you put it live on the website again? | 20:43 |
| lisitsyn | iglesiasg: maquina de vectores soporte! | 20:43 |
| @HeikoS | or maybe lets shift it to 90 mins for that one | 20:43 |
| @HeikoS | that its more relaxed | 20:43 |
| iglesiasg | sonney2k: the new schedule you mean? | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, yes | 20:43 |
| iglesiasg | update workshop program, yes sure | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | we should also make some announcement like program finalized | 20:43 |
| @HeikoS | 1930 should be fine still | 20:44 |
| @sonney2k | and also instructions | 20:44 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, no | 20:44 |
| iglesiasg | lisitsyn: maquina de vectores soporte rule them all :P | 20:44 |
| @sonney2k | we don't have the main hall that long | 20:44 |
| @sonney2k | there might be other events | 20:44 |
| lisitsyn | where are we heading after 19.00? | 20:44 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, stay in c-base | 20:44 |
| @sonney2k | but grill outside | 20:44 |
| @HeikoS | ok then | 20:45 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: do they have some yard? | 20:45 |
| lisitsyn | or what? | 20:45 |
| @sonney2k | https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=c-base&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=yzbLUYesEcmctAbs64C4Dw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1745&bih=830 | 20:45 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/7/7e/C-base-29.jpg | 20:46 |
| @sonney2k | that is actually directly in front of c-base | 20:46 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: ok some place outside | 20:46 |
| @sonney2k | http://blog.diediplomandin.de/wp-content/uploads/cbase051.jpg | 20:46 |
| @sonney2k | and that is the plan! | 20:46 |
| iglesiasg | I think there is a c-base in budapest a bit diffirent than the one we are going to | 20:46 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k, what about all the stuff we need (brill, meat, drinks, projector (?), cables, bla) | 20:46 |
| lisitsyn | russian vodka? | 20:47 |
| lisitsyn | hah | 20:47 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: yeah of course :) but how to get it there and who and when | 20:47 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, well they have lots of stuff there | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | but sure I have to buy quite a bit | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | video recording is still hmm... | 20:48 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: as mentioned, I am in Berlin a few days earlier if you need help buying things | 20:48 |
| lisitsyn | I am too :D | 20:48 |
| lisitsyn | but what can I do is to get lost | 20:48 |
| lisitsyn | that's the only thing I can do in berlin :D | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | you are an experienced drinker too | 20:49 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: HeikoS: anyone is up to meet *before* the event btw? | 20:50 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, wait you will in berlin from 10th of july? | 20:50 |
| @HeikoS | yes 10 | 20:50 |
| @HeikoS | meeting some friends etc | 20:51 |
| @sonney2k | so what is missing in the schedule is a name to what we want to discuss in the discussion sessions | 20:51 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I suggest the second one is the future | 20:52 |
| lisitsyn | of shogun | 20:52 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, agreed | 20:52 |
| @HeikoS | first one dev-proces | 20:52 |
| lisitsyn | and the first one may be usability | 20:52 |
| lisitsyn | ha | 20:52 |
| @HeikoS | and usability yes | 20:52 |
| @sonney2k | ok change it then! | 20:52 |
| @HeikoS | that should be fine | 20:53 |
| @HeikoS | note I changed the times slightly for discussion 1(if you agree) | 20:54 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, no | 20:54 |
| @sonney2k | Discussion should be extra | 20:54 |
| @sonney2k | not in coffee break | 20:54 |
| @HeikoS | changed | 20:55 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, if we are running late we just shorten the discussion/break | 20:55 |
| @HeikoS | yeah thats fine | 20:55 |
| @HeikoS | so all fine then=? | 20:56 |
| lisitsyn | yes fine for me | 20:56 |
| @HeikoS | should we maybe introduce the devs in the shogun intro? | 20:56 |
| @HeikoS | 5 mins each or so | 20:56 |
| lisitsyn | too much! | 20:56 |
| @HeikoS | or 2 | 20:56 |
| @HeikoS | just to let people know who we are | 20:57 |
| lisitsyn | can we have badges? | 20:57 |
| @HeikoS | and maybe also say how we work together | 20:57 |
| @HeikoS | since thats quite special - we havent ever met each other | 20:57 |
| lisitsyn | haha | 20:57 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: haven't you met Soeren? | 20:57 |
| @HeikoS | explains a lot of things in shogun ;) | 20:57 |
| @HeikoS | nope | 20:57 |
| lisitsyn | oh so nobody ever met | 20:57 |
| lisitsyn | that's what we call virtual | 20:58 |
| @sonney2k | ok schedule fixed right? | 20:58 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 20:58 |
| @sonney2k | then iglesiasg please put this online! | 20:59 |
| @sonney2k | we should write some announcement for that then too | 20:59 |
| @sonney2k | and instructions how to get to c-base | 20:59 |
| @sonney2k | volunteers? | 20:59 |
| @HeikoS | who wrote the last ones? | 21:00 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: what kind of announcement? | 21:00 |
| lisitsyn | I wrote some email while ago you didn't like it may be we can re-use it? | 21:00 |
| @sonney2k | Once that is done we should send an email to the participants | 21:00 |
| @sonney2k | not really | 21:00 |
| @HeikoS | I can do this then | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | that is where the hands on will be https://maps.google.de/maps?q=Marchstra%C3%9Fe+23&hl=en&ie=UTF8&t=h&hnear=Marchstra%C3%9Fe+23,+10587+Berlin&z=16 | 21:02 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: you should do the way description since you know the place better | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | room MAR 0.001 | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, just use google maps | 21:02 |
| @sonney2k | it really is enough | 21:02 |
| @HeikoS | well then no need to do that since people can do that on their own | 21:03 |
| @sonney2k | there are train / underground stations 2 mins away from everything | 21:03 |
| @HeikoS | I thought you meant description of way | 21:03 |
| lisitsyn | oh close to me! | 21:03 |
| @HeikoS | like go there, turn left and jump up and down three times | 21:03 |
| @HeikoS | then a magical door opens | 21:03 |
| @HeikoS | and three dwarves let you in :D | 21:03 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, heh | 21:03 |
| lisitsyn | is that open for anyone? | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, btw we should do the found shogun e.V. at 10 am then | 21:04 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | do you think 1 hour is enough? | 21:04 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: yes, we should distribute the satzung before | 21:04 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, yeah it should be finalized | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | so that we just meet, quickly say what we do and then everyone signs | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, did you get a reply from the KDE guys? | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | will do that in the next weeks | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: not yet | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | waiting | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | hmmhh | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | ping them | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | will be fine | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | will do that | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | but politely | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | just returned from holidays | 21:05 |
| @HeikoS | btw what about this unconference stuff? saturday? | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I think you have to work it out - but IMHO everyone brings his notebook | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | and you start hacking/ discussing | 21:06 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k, lisitsyn: I will send you the announcement tomorrow and if you agree Ill send it to all participants | 21:07 |
| @sonney2k | you could of course solve 'real' toy problems | 21:07 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: ah yeah you are not around saturday right? | 21:07 |
| @HeikoS | ok then | 21:07 |
| @sonney2k | I am going to be shot for organizing this anyways | 21:07 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: I would like to go home now, could we do the PO tomorrow same time? | 21:07 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: really? haha, TUB nice | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, or during the day from work | 21:08 |
| @HeikoS | ok then | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | HeikoS, I actually only wanted to ask if we can do ti | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | it | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | via you again | 21:08 |
| @HeikoS | sonney2k: yeah its fine, no income in Germany | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | but then it is easy | 21:08 |
| @sonney2k | just this one form to fill out | 21:09 |
| @HeikoS | and then Ill donate it after the workshop | 21:09 |
| @HeikoS | going home, see you guys tomorrow! | 21:09 |
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| lisitsyn | see you | 21:09 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: what time you expect us to be at that TU room? | 21:10 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, it is reserved from 8-21hrs | 21:10 |
| lisitsyn | uh | 21:10 |
| lisitsyn | I am definitely won't stay that long! | 21:11 |
| @sonney2k | so I guess 9-17 or 10-18 | 21:11 |
| @sonney2k | do whatever you want :D | 21:11 |
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| lisitsyn | sonney2k: sure I just mean I will be first time in that city :) | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, how long will you be staying? | 21:14 |
| @sonney2k | https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zDCB8aozZOQJjqDm5rLsOso2xAbIn7OBcYGdLhL7OTs/viewform | 21:14 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: 10,11,12,13,14 | 21:14 |
| @sonney2k | ahh heiko just left | 21:14 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, ohh short | 21:14 |
| @sonney2k | I thought a week | 21:14 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: yes that's why I am confused with staying in room whole day :) | 21:14 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: any idea when can they decide on me? | 21:15 |
| @sonney2k | sorry what? | 21:20 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: summit | 21:21 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: my participance | 21:21 |
| lisitsyn | waiting list | 21:21 |
| lisitsyn | #waitinglist | 21:21 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 21:21 |
| @sonney2k | no idea | 21:22 |
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| van51 | sonney2k: can I ask a couple things? | 21:29 |
| van51 | or someone else actually | 21:33 |
| lisitsyn | van51: what's up? | 21:33 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: first of all, if I change the display of the histogram to that : http://pastebin.com/cbReK2Hn in Alphabet.cpp | 21:34 |
| van51 | is it good? | 21:34 |
| lisitsyn | van51: what is changed? | 21:34 |
| lisitsyn | Character is not in alphabet? | 21:35 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: instead of the char it used to print the index of the character | 21:35 |
| van51 | and what you sai | 21:35 |
| van51 | said* | 21:35 |
| lisitsyn | like 59 | 21:35 |
| lisitsyn | instead of some letter? | 21:35 |
| van51 | yeap | 21:35 |
| lisitsyn | like that indeed | 21:35 |
| lisitsyn | I do I mean | 21:35 |
| van51 | so I leave it like this? | 21:36 |
| lisitsyn | yes I don't mind such improvement | 21:36 |
| van51 | ok | 21:36 |
| van51 | one more thing | 21:36 |
| van51 | I changed the default behavior of SGIO that always printed the function name | 21:37 |
| van51 | like we discussed with HeikoS above | 21:37 |
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| van51 | should I have it to set this function_name display automatically if the loglevel is set to >= warn? | 21:37 |
| lisitsyn | van51: I don't know but I tend to think it is better to show these names only when debuggin | 21:38 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: actually now there are 3 possibilities, show nothing, show function name, show file and line | 21:39 |
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| lisitsyn | van51: may be it makes the sense to put an option like show line | 21:47 |
| @wiking | yo | 21:47 |
| lisitsyn | wiking: hey | 21:48 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: maybe I'll make a PR with these changes only and that would mean that the user could/should also specify what to display as well | 21:49 |
| van51 | and we can update it afterwards | 21:49 |
| lisitsyn | alright | 21:51 |
| @sonney2k | van51, the hist['E'] is not a good idea | 21:57 |
| @sonney2k | think of '\n' as the char | 21:57 |
| @sonney2k | or other control characters | 21:58 |
| @sonney2k | van51, best is you try it with the full range 0..255 | 21:58 |
| * sonney2k off | 21:58 | |
| van51 | sonney2k: hmm idd | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | van51: I'd handle alphanumerical this way | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | number otherwise | 21:59 |
| lisitsyn | and special like EOF and EOL | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | marked some way too | 22:00 |
| lisitsyn | but that's me ;) | 22:00 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: makes sense actually | 22:00 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #1270 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test python_modular] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1270 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 22:27 |
| @wiking | lisitsyn: http://osrc.dfm.io/lisitsyn | 22:32 |
| @wiking | :DDD | 22:33 |
| lisitsyn | wiking: ha! | 22:34 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: http://osrc.dfm.io/sonney2k | 22:35 |
| iglesiasg | oh that is super cool man! | 22:35 |
| iglesiasg | lisitsyn: man you are a top 6% | 22:35 |
| iglesiasg | you are like famous | 22:35 |
| lisitsyn | iglesiasg: haha | 22:36 |
| lisitsyn | you are a trend setting C++ expert iglesiasg | 22:36 |
| iglesiasg | :D | 22:37 |
| * lambday yawns | 22:38 | |
| lambday | good night guys | 22:38 |
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| lisitsyn | http://osrc.dfm.io/karlnapf | 22:39 |
| @wiking | lol man this shit says work best in the morning. | 22:41 |
| lisitsyn | wiking: I am dead in the morning :D | 22:44 |
| van51 | made a PR | 22:48 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: if you have time now, please have a look. it's rather small | 22:48 |
| lisitsyn | van51: yes sure | 22:48 |
| van51 | thanks :) | 22:48 |
| lisitsyn | van51: ahh so there is a function for that | 22:48 |
| lisitsyn | gut | 22:49 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: yeah thankfully | 22:49 |
| van51 | I had a long if before | 22:49 |
| lisitsyn | van51: let sonney2k merge it, I am totally happy with it | 22:50 |
| lisitsyn | van51: ahh one more thing may be | 22:50 |
| lisitsyn | van51: what about EOF and EOL? makes sense to state them too | 22:50 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: tell me | 22:50 |
| lisitsyn | I don't remember any code of \n | 22:51 |
| lisitsyn | so may be it would be more convenient for users too | 22:51 |
| van51 | lisitsyn: yeah you're right | 22:51 |
| van51 | i'll do it in a while then | 22:51 |
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| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: around? | 22:57 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: for some reason the webpage crashes in http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/admin/ | 22:59 |
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| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: maybe I remember wrong that was the page to change stuff | 23:06 |
| @iglesiasg | lisitsyn do you happen to remember if it was that one? | 23:06 |
| lisitsyn | uhmm I don't remember | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | but admin is not working yeah | 23:07 |
| @iglesiasg | Bernard just told me it should be that one too | 23:08 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: van51 :develop * 9132e15 / src/shogun/features/Alphabet.cpp,src/shogun/io/SGIO.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9132e156eefe183e91d5071414ce0388c05057b1 | 23:23 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Changed display messages | 23:23 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * f6bdbf1 / src/shogun/features/Alphabet.cpp,src/shogun/io/SGIO.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/f6bdbf1f1e889232c88292cd6e12562f4388881c | 23:23 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1191 from van51/develop | 23:23 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 23:23 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Changed display messages | 23:23 |
| van51 | I think just a sec after I updated it, it was merged :p | 23:24 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #981 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/981 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 23:28 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1149 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test_1] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1149 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 23:36 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #982 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/982 blamelist: van51 <vangelis_51@hotmail.com> | 23:39 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1150 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test_1] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1150 blamelist: van51 <vangelis_51@hotmail.com> | 23:47 |
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