IRC logs of #shogun for Saturday, 2013-06-29

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gsomixsonney2k: hello! I'm working, but will be available in IRC little later. Do not worry.04:58
gsomixcu05:01
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foulwallsonney2k: the gp demo needs GaussianLikelyhood, which needs eigen3. and I wanna install eigen3 dependency and recompile shogun. May I do that?05:15
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@wikingsonney2k: i cannot fix json installs on fbsd ... and especially not on github09:33
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shogun-notifier-shogun: iglesias :develop * 7f8700e / src/shogun/machine/StructuredOutputMachine.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/7f8700ed8896404d112a344f85aad9859fcee99d12:15
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fix possible memory leak in StructuredOutputMachine12:15
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 0ef3c6e / src/shogun/machine/StructuredOutputMachine.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/0ef3c6e15eeb83489bb83a07846846a6a9eee02812:15
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1197 from iglesias/feature/structure_fix_leak12:15
shogun-notifier-shogun:12:15
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fix possible memory leak in StructuredOutputMachine12:15
shogun-buildbotbuild #993 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/993  blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>12:19
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1161 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test_1]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1161  blamelist: iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>12:26
foulwallls12:37
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/856585712:37
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1162 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test_1]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1162  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>12:38
shogun-buildbotbuild #994 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/994  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>12:41
@sonney2kwiking, why not?12:42
@sonney2kwiking, just install json-c manually from https://github.com/json-c/json-c and all good12:43
foulwallhi sonney2k, can I install eigen3 and recompile shogun on the virtual box?12:44
foulwallI'm now merging dvalcarce's demo12:44
@sonney2kfoulwall, sure but I can do that as well (tonight)12:46
@sonney2kfoulwall, go go :)12:46
foulwallsonney2k: :)12:47
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gsomixsonney2k, lisitsyn I'm in train. CU tomorrow.14:47
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@sonney2kwiking, ohh crasher in random19:59
@sonney2kwiking, http://dpaste.com/1275425/19:59
van51sonney2k: hello20:06
van51sonney2k: I've sent a PR for my extension of the dotfeatures class20:08
van51sonney2k: it's a WIP20:08
van51sonney2k: so when you have time and feel like it you can start reviewing it20:08
van51I'll be back later20:09
van51bye for now!20:09
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@sonney2klisitsyn, http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/06/could-superman-punch-someone-into-space/20:41
lisitsynsonney2k: science!20:58
@sonney2kI like the force to superman-b's head being >4000 aircraft carriers21:03
lisitsynsonney2k: I wonder if this is enough to burn someone21:05
lisitsynsounds like a lot of energy at the same time at the same place21:06
lisitsynpickle27: hey!21:06
pickle27lisitsyn: hey there!21:06
lisitsynpickle27: howdy?21:06
pickle27good I finished up ffdiag yesterday21:07
pickle27Im going to code the ffsep algorithm next which uses ffdiag to do BSS21:07
lisitsynpickle27: ffdiag is made of your glue code and that C code right?21:09
pickle27the one I showed you was jadiag, ffdiag is another port from the R package but there was more R and less C21:10
pickle27so its more of a direct port21:10
lisitsynah sorry they are all **diag :D21:10
pickle27yeah its confusing21:10
pickle27jadiag is part of JADE21:10
pickle27but I think I am going to do ffsep first because the next steps are more clear21:11
lisitsynoh another thing called JADE21:11
lisitsyn:D21:11
lisitsynthat's java agent development framework for me21:11
lisitsyn:D21:11
lisitsynpickle27: ok I am going to finally really check out references21:11
pickle27yeah I think jadiag is the diagonalizer for the JADE BSS alg21:11
lisitsynpickle27: how do you design it now?21:12
lisitsynI mean is it a set of functions?21:12
lisitsynwe've got to get to some PR faster I think!21:13
pickle27at the moment yes21:13
pickle27yeah I was thinking I should put something together so people can see it21:13
lisitsynpickle27: I don't mind if you put these functions to shogun/lib or so21:14
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lisitsynother way you may put them to the class directly21:14
lisitsynpickle27: what is the class I am talking about btw :D21:15
lisitsynpickle27: if you have time now lets think about its interface21:15
pickle27shogun/lib looks like an alright spot for now21:15
pickle27sure21:15
lisitsynthe input is indeed simple21:16
lisitsynthat's DotFeatures I guess21:16
pickle27yeah21:16
pickle27and I think that eventually we'll want the diagonalization techniques to be private21:16
lisitsynbut the output?21:16
pickle27well the algorithm would separate the sources21:17
pickle27hmm21:17
pickle27labels doesn't make sense21:17
lisitsynpickle27: no not labels for sure21:17
pickle27maybe it returns DotFeatures21:17
lisitsynI guess that's one feature in multiple features out?21:17
lisitsynfeature like features instance21:17
lisitsynin shogun sense21:17
pickle27yeah that actually makes sense21:18
lisitsynok then we need new base class21:19
pickle27yeah21:20
pickle27do we want these to live in Shogun/lib or somewhere else21:20
lisitsynpickle27: what? base class?21:20
pickle27yeah I was envisioning a director that had the base class and then all the methods21:21
pickle27and by methods I mean derrived classes21:21
@sonney2klisitsyn, why do we have a metric directory for just one class?21:21
lisitsynsonney2k: already merged?21:21
lisitsynsonney2k: that's indeed confusing21:22
lisitsynpickle27: we could put them to converter actually21:23
lisitsynreturning combined features21:23
lisitsynthat's just 'vertically'  stacked features21:23
lisitsynone might obtain 'subfeatures' quite easily21:23
@sonney2kI have no idea where this is going but *I* would have put LMNN in multiclass and not added an additional distance21:23
lisitsynsonney2k: we have the same problem for transfer21:23
@sonney2klisitsyn, which problem?21:24
lisitsynsonney2k: too light folder21:24
@sonney2k$ find shogun/transfer/ | wc -l21:25
@sonney2k5221:25
@sonney2k> 121:25
lisitsynsonney2k: ha didn't know21:25
lisitsyn:D21:25
lisitsynsonney2k: I agree on LMNN -> multiclass21:25
pickle27lisitsyn: converter might make sense21:27
pickle27or preproccesor21:27
pickle27brb one sec21:30
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@sonney2klisitsyn, bah I killed the cygwin machine while trying to upgrade cygwin on it21:31
lisitsynsonney2k: I find cygwin disgusting21:32
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pickle27lisitsyn: hey Im back21:37
pickle27what do you think between converters and preprocessor21:38
lisitsynpickle27: preprocessor is something that can be initialized21:38
lisitsynthen used21:38
@sonney2klisitsyn, we should have this for shogun bug #1000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAiVsbXVP6k21:38
lisitsynsonney2k: haha nice21:39
lisitsynsonney2k: the guy enjoys the joke a lot haha21:40
pickle27okay yeah converter makes more sense21:40
lisitsynpickle27: I am unsure is there something that works online in BSS?21:40
pickle27what do you mean21:41
lisitsynpickle27: like you first learn21:42
lisitsynthen work out of sample21:42
lisitsynpickle27: like PCA21:42
pickle27I don't really think so (Im still pretty new to BSS)21:42
lisitsynyeah me too21:42
pickle27It looks like your learn a demix matrix which applies to the given input21:42
lisitsynlets ask andreas21:42
pickle27so it wouldn't really be useful to new data21:43
lisitsynpickle27: could you please write a mail with that question?21:43
lisitsynwe may not oversee that, if there are some out of sample extensions we should take a look21:43
pickle27okay I'll put something out on the mailing list21:44
@sonney2kwiking, and buildbot ubu1 - libshogun ist offline21:44
pickle27I'll also cc Andreas as Im not sure if hes on the mailing list or not21:44
lisitsynpickle27: so just to clarify21:45
lisitsynthe question is whether any of BSS techniques is applicable to out of sample data21:45
pickle27yes21:45
pickle27and my tasks for now and next week are to finish ffsep and get what I've got now into shogun so I can make a PR21:47
lisitsynpickle27: sounds good21:47
pickle27also bit unrelated21:47
pickle27Im still considering coming to the workshop21:47
pickle27trying to decide if I have the time21:47
lisitsynpickle27: are you done with your masters already btw?21:48
pickle27lisitsyn: I sent my supervisor my first draft last week so I am waiting on his edits21:48
pickle27so Im pretty close :)21:48
lisitsynpickle27: if you come I think I'll better give you my time to present your project ;)21:49
pickle27GSoC or Masters?21:49
lisitsynpickle27: gsoc21:49
pickle27cool21:49
pickle27does anyone know how to go about flying cheap last minute lol?21:51
lisitsynno idea21:52
lisitsyn:)21:52
pickle27anyways I'm still on the fence I'll probably decide next week21:53
pickle27I think it would be fun though!21:53
@sonney2kpickle27, where are you flyiing from?22:07
pickle27Toronto22:07
@sonney2kwoah! expensive then22:07
pickle27yeah a bit eh!22:07
@sonney2klike 1k$22:07
pickle27yup22:08
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