IRC logs of #shogun for Wednesday, 2013-07-10

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shogun-buildbotbuild #453 of nightly_default is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/45304:49
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@sonney2kfoulwall, I played around with the demos yesterday05:30
@sonney2kfoulwall, it is starting to look good!05:30
foulwallsonney2k: I tried ocr in /applications, but it seems fail05:31
foulwallsonney2k: :)05:32
@sonney2kfoulwall,what did you do?05:32
@sonney2kfoulwall, regarding the demo - could you make the points bigger again?05:33
@sonney2kfoulwall, and for multiclass just add a pull down list to select the from the labels 0,1,2,3,405:34
foulwallsonney2k: ok, I'll make it in today's pr05:34
@sonney2kfoulwall, did you try ocr with latest git or where?05:34
@sonney2kfoulwall, I just tried and it works...05:34
@sonney2kfoulwall, what is the error you are getting05:35
foulwallwhen I push Classify, crashed.05:35
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foulwallhttp://pastebin.com/WCbeQDe405:37
@sonney2kfoulwall, hmmhh it is dying trying to print some error message05:38
@sonney2kfoulwall, could you please git pull and then run it again05:38
foulwalllet me have the repo updated, and have a try05:38
foulwallok sonney2k05:38
@sonney2kthe model was broken until recently05:38
@sonney2kfoulwall, btw does it crash on startup already or when?05:39
foulwallafter I drew a "1" and hit the Classify button05:40
@sonney2kfoulwall, yeah then a git pull should fix it05:40
foulwallok05:40
@sonney2kfoulwall, in any case for the web demo the difficult thing to do would be to allow drawing the digit05:40
@sonney2kfoulwall, then remove unused borders05:41
@sonney2kand then create a 16x16 image out of this05:41
@sonney2kwhich you then just concatenate and feed into the trained classsifier05:42
foulwallI see:)05:42
foulwallgtg for lunch, cu05:43
@sonney2kcu05:43
foulwallit works after git pull:)05:45
@sonney2kfoulwall, ok so are the steps clear for ocr or any questions?05:48
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@sonney2kshogun-buildbot, force build "cyg1 - libshogun"06:00
shogun-buildbotbuild forced [ETA 18m20s]06:00
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes06:00
shogun-buildbotbuild #1029 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/102906:21
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * b71624c / src/Makefile: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b71624c431765cdd8122db6b4111c6786625eef906:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: don't include .config twice06:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * ac6ba0d / src/interfaces/modular/modshogun_ignores.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ac6ba0d8a11457daaf4959944aaddb511cdb7c3906:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: don't generally ignore cleanup()06:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 1415a49 / README: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/1415a498e38ed3967b8879aebfe8521afb2f83b206:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: update readme to include benchmarks06:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 0a2b2ca / benchmarks/sparse_test.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/0a2b2cad39c6f4fc5a9cf090407cd2b3f6f18fe006:51
shogun-notifier-shogun: add phtread based sparse test bench06:51
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gsomixgood morning!06:57
@sonney2kgsomix, hey there! finally back in town?06:58
gsomixsonney2k, yep. but town is not interesting. I need go to home: 52.347924,49.92393507:00
@sonney2kgsomix, ohh well07:04
@sonney2kgsomix, btw I read your last PR and could you please allow setting of the DelimiterTokenizer from the outside?07:04
@sonney2kgsomix, this way one could use multiple delimiters as 'stops'07:05
gsomixfor LineReader? sure.07:05
@sonney2kgsomix, then please have a look at shogun/features/StringFeatures.h07:08
@sonney2kgsomix, there are several load functions in there07:08
@sonney2kfor example laod_ascii_file etc07:08
@sonney2kthey all have their own way of 'line reader'07:09
@sonney2kbut it would be much better to use yours07:09
gsomixok07:09
@sonney2kgsomix, and finally please put a benchmark of the line reader in benchmarks - maybe a demo just doing a line count (similar to wc -l file)07:10
@sonney2kgsomix, that all should be very easy but please add some tests to ensure that you don't break anything if you do the changes07:11
shogun-buildbotbuild #1031 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1031  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>07:13
@sonney2kshogun-buildbot, c'mon07:13
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 6caed20 / applications/arts/signal_sensor.py,applications/asp/signal_detectors.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/6caed20704ae5778a8a3a44b9d02f6237c2d9c0f07:22
shogun-notifier-shogun: use get_value(s) to get real valued output in asp/arts again07:22
gsomixok, cu later07:24
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1032 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/103208:14
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@iglesiasggood morning guys08:28
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@sonney2kiglesiasg, not yet in the plane?08:28
@iglesiasgsonney2k: no no, much later08:29
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hushellHi iglesiasg09:04
@iglesiasghey hushell09:05
hushelliglesiasg: Thanks for the review. But the code may have to be changed totally09:05
@iglesiasghushell: yeah, I read the mail09:05
@iglesiasghushell: no problem09:05
@iglesiasgI actually didn't finish revising everything09:05
hushellI am waiting for Sebastian's reply09:05
@iglesiasgso I will wait now until it is updated09:05
@iglesiasgI won't probably be able to take a new look at it until Monday, once I am back from Berlin09:06
@iglesiasgso maybe sonney2k, sonne|work can take a look at it before that if that would be too long to wait09:06
hushellI see, you have to prepare a talk :)09:06
hushelliglesiasg: don't worry, now I learned more about the REF UNREF09:07
@iglesiasghushell: be also critic about my comments :D I am no real expert actually09:08
hushellI took most of your code as reference anyway haha09:08
hushellWhenever I got some question, I always search for those code that I am familiar with, your code is the most familiar one :D09:09
@iglesiasgyeah, that is indeed a good practice09:09
@iglesiasgnot because it is my code, in general haha09:10
hushellone more question about the REF/UNREF, in classifier_multiclasslinearmachine.cpp, there are code like this:09:15
hushellCDenseFeatures<float64_t>* features=new CDenseFeatures<float64_t>(mat);09:15
hushell    SG_REF(features);09:15
hushellbut this features only been UNREFed once09:15
hushellwhy this could happen?09:16
hushellin line 2609:17
vgorbatihushell: as far as I know, this will still work: in the beginning the ref_count==0, then after SG_REF it becomes ==1, and after SG_UNREF it becomes 0, and the object gets deleted09:22
@iglesiasghushell: yes, that is it09:22
@iglesiasgI think that SG_UNREF frees memory both if ref_count is 0 or 109:22
vgorbatihushell: there can be one reason to do it like this: on line 47 the multiclass machine is created using this features, and inside it refs the features, making its ref_count==1. But, when you UNREF the machine, it will also UNREF the features, leading to ref_count==0 and object deletion, even though the features may still be needed09:24
hushellThanks vgorbati iglesiasg I haven't check the internal code carefully :D09:25
vgorbatihushell: I just had a similar problem in my test:)09:26
hushellvgorbati: This was a confusion to me :) but make sense now09:26
@iglesiasghushell: about the mail explaining factors09:30
@iglesiasghushell: so these parameters that the first type doesn't have, but yes the second and the third, what do they define?09:31
@iglesiasgthe structured of the factor? with structure I mean the number of nodes of the graph and how they are connected to each09:32
@iglesiasgok, I have to go now, see you later09:43
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@sonney2ksorry but I need to prepare a workshop and some talks too09:58
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@HeikoSyeaaaah, greeting from Berlin to everyone ! :)11:42
@iglesiasgHeikoS: hi!11:42
@iglesiasgHeikoS: I am getting there tonight11:43
@HeikoSiglesiasg: nice :) where are you staying?11:43
@iglesiasgHeikoS: Generator Berlin Mitte Hostel11:43
@HeikoSnice :)11:44
@HeikoSpreparing slides now ....11:44
@iglesiasgHeikoS: it seems to be somewhat in the center, which is nice11:44
@iglesiasgHeikoS: hehe yeah me too :)11:44
@HeikoSiglesiasg: yeah "mitte" means center :)11:44
@iglesiasghaha that was my guess11:45
@iglesiasgHeikoS: lisitsyn and I were planning to meet tomorrow probably, if you want to join11:45
@HeikoSiglesiasg: yes would love to, let me know when and where11:45
@iglesiasgHeikoS: we are going to discuss about that tonight11:46
@iglesiasgHeikoS: I think I should be able to be connected to the hostel's wi-fi at latest 23h11:46
@iglesiasgif I don't get lost in Berlin's s-bahn hehe11:47
sonne|workHeikoS: hey there welcom!11:50
sonne|worke11:50
@iglesiasgsonne|work: do you need some help tomorrow preparing something?11:52
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@HeikoSsonne|work: hi! :)11:53
sonne|workiglesiasg: rather in the morning on friday11:53
@HeikoSiglesiasg: alright!, nice11:53
@iglesiasgsonne|work: all right11:53
sonne|workiglesiasg: I will be in c-base around 9am lets hope I find someone that opens it that early11:55
@iglesiasglet's knock the door down otherwise11:56
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sonne|workiglesiasg, I am going shopping for our BBQ today any special wishes?12:20
@iglesiasgsonne|work: hamburger, BBQ sauce and hamburgerdressing ! :D12:21
@iglesiasgI love that hehe12:21
@iglesiasgI don't think hamburgerdressing makes sense in English though, but maybe it is similar in German?12:22
sonne|workindeed I forgot bbq sauce12:27
sonne|workhmmhh a pizza slize of 43x43cm might be too much for everyone12:28
* sonne|work considers ordering 3 m^2 of pizza12:28
@iglesiasghaha12:28
@iglesiasgI may be able to handle that, I eat a lot :D12:29
sonne|workiglesiasg: you can prove your skills then12:31
sonne|workit is a bit hard to estimate... 5 or 6 pizzas is the Q12:32
sonne|worklets say we are 3012:32
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@iglesiasgsonne|work: I guess it is better if we have more than we are going to eat that lack of12:33
sonne|workok 6 it is then12:34
sonne|workthe slize is on average then 17x17cm12:34
sonne|workgood enough for a snack12:34
sonne|workotherwise people will fall asleep12:34
@iglesiasghehe12:34
sonne|workwiking: when are you leaving?12:35
wikingsonne|work: i'm heading off to budapest today12:42
wikingand my flight is tomorrow afternoon12:42
wikingi'll be in berlin around 512:42
wikingpm12:42
wikingtomorrow12:42
sonne|workwiking: ok fine!12:42
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thoralfHeya.13:51
@iglesiasghey thoralf!14:17
@iglesiasgHeikoS, sonney2k, wiking : are you writing some code in your slides?14:18
@HeikoSiglesiasg: I think I wont14:18
@iglesiasgI am doing them with beamer and I am using minted to put code snippets14:18
@HeikoSiglesiasg: currently playing with an ipython notebook14:18
@HeikoSso maybe first slides and then afterwards some demos14:18
@iglesiasgHeikoS: oh cool! you will do it more like live demos14:18
@iglesiasgthat is even better14:18
@HeikoSiglesiasg: dont know yet, never done that ;)14:19
@HeikoSI feel its good to talk about ideas first and then revisit them with some shogun code later on14:19
@iglesiasgHeikoS: yeah, I agree14:19
@iglesiasgHeikoS: I will do the Shogun code part also on slides though14:20
@HeikoSiglesiasg: yeah I mean depends on what one whats to do14:23
@iglesiasgHeikoS: sure14:23
@iglesiasgHeikoS: I think the live demo is something better, but one has to be brave to do it :)14:23
@HeikoSiglesiasg: good thing about the notebooks is that you can precompute everything, but still show intermediate steps :)14:25
@iglesiasgHeikoS: I have no idea how these ipython notebooks work or what they do14:25
@iglesiasgI will see it in your presentation14:26
@HeikoSiglesiasg: just started looking at them quite nice14:26
@HeikoSlike Mathematica notebooks14:26
@HeikoSiglesiasg: we totally should use them for examples, very cool stuff :)14:27
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lisitsynamazing city sonney2k sonne|work18:29
lisitsynsiegessaeule is scary! we got to the top18:33
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thoralflisitsyn:)18:52
lisitsynthoralf: really amazing!18:52
thoralflisitsyn: It18:52
thoralf's full of tourists! ;)18:52
lisitsynthoralf: you must be happy living in such a place18:52
lisitsynsome things are a bit expensive though hehe18:53
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thoralflisitsyn: Haven't seen London or New York yet, right? ;)19:01
lisitsynthoralf: haven't seen anything from russian shit yet right19:01
thoralflisitsyn: Berlin is quite inexpensive compared to other (west?) capital cities19:05
thoralf(still)19:05
thoralfNeed to go.  Bye! :)19:11
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * f812f01 / src/interfaces/modular/Regression.i,src/interfaces/modular/Regression_includes.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/f812f01ccab64b561a3a76b3a460a786f37a5e7421:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: added binary classification inferfaces for probit likelihood (for now under regression, needs cleanup anyways)21:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * ed386aa / src/interfaces/modular/Regression.i,src/interfaces/modular/Regression_includes.i: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ed386aa88e3152b482cf70f128eb119c31f0bf9a21:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1233 from karlnapf/develop21:14
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@sonney2kHeikoS, around?21:32
* sonney2k is still far from having a talk21:32
HeikoSsonney2k: hi!21:40
HeikoSsonney2k: getting there, just wrote two ipython notepads as demos21:40
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@sonney2kHeikoS, ipython notepads?21:48
HeikoSsonney2k: yeah, quite nice21:48
HeikoSill you show21:48
HeikoSill show you21:48
@sonney2kHeikoS, I don't know if I manage to prepare the SVM/MKL talk in time21:48
HeikoSi am a bit stressed about mine too, but will try to, would be a shame otherwise ...21:49
HeikoSstill one more day21:49
shogun-buildbotbuild #1357 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed compile csharp_modular]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1357  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>21:50
@sonney2kyeah but I have no time tomorrow21:50
HeikoSsonney2k: http://nbviewer.ipython.org/596962221:51
@sonney2kHeikoS, OMFG21:51
@sonney2kthat is coooool!21:51
HeikoSsonney2k: yeah I like them21:52
HeikoSyou can also have them interactively21:52
HeikoSand you can put latex etc21:52
HeikoSsonney2k: here is romans probit classifier21:52
HeikoShttp://nbviewer.ipython.org/596963821:52
HeikoSsonney2k: these are very easy to create21:53
HeikoSlike in mathematica, just write/paste code21:53
@sonney2kHeikoS, I like the gist like sharing21:53
HeikoSipython notebook --pylab inline21:53
HeikoSyep thats very cool :)21:54
HeikoSthis command launces a webserver so you can create them in a browser21:54
HeikoSbut there is also some qt stuff, havent figured that out, since short on time ;)21:54
@sonney2kHeikoS, that stuff is excellent for doing tutorials later on the website21:59
HeikoSsonney2k: yes totally22:00
HeikoSsonney2k: the latex book is way too much work22:00
@sonney2kHeikoS, we could run our own notebook server on shogun-toolbox.org and just link to it22:00
HeikoSsonney2k: but maybe this simple way, we can actually write some documentation :)22:00
@sonney2kyeah but some minimal description data and colors are ideal22:00
HeikoSsonney2k: no need even, we can use their renderer22:00
HeikoSjust provide link from git22:00
@sonney2klets discuss this at the workshop22:01
@sonney2klet me do one or two slides before I die22:01
wikingsonney2k: do we have a dedicated machine for video or i should dedicate my own machine for it?22:15
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iglesiasggreetings from Berlin!22:33
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@iglesiasgHeikoS: hey, how are you doing?22:54
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Kevin :develop * 9077059 / examples/undocumented/libshogun/converter_jade_bss.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9077059b158d2ba28102459d8fdb3bb2511b257223:19
shogun-notifier-shogun: updated the Jade BSS example to use more realistic data featuring some added noise23:19
shogun-notifier-shogun: Sergey Lisitsyn :develop * 72301ea / examples/undocumented/libshogun/converter_jade_bss.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/72301eadec1a15df2517558c4bd1b8087aadd25823:19
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1232 from pickle27/develop23:19
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shogun-notifier-shogun: updated the Jade BSS example to use more realistic data23:19
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