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| @sonney2k | van51, whats wrong? | 01:04 |
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| van51 | sonney2k: everything's peachy :) | 01:08 |
| @sonney2k | van51, fine fine I just returned from the workshop afterparty | 01:09 |
| @sonney2k | van51, how is everything going | 01:09 |
| van51 | sonney2k: did you guys have fun? | 01:09 |
| @sonney2k | yeah we did | 01:09 |
| @iglesiasg | A LOT! | 01:09 |
| van51 | haha | 01:09 |
| van51 | cool | 01:10 |
| @sonney2k | hehe | 01:10 |
| van51 | maybe next time I can attend too | 01:10 |
| @sonney2k | lets hope so | 01:10 |
| van51 | for the tutorial ofc | 01:10 |
| @sonney2k | van51, how expensive are flights from greece to berlin? | 01:10 |
| van51 | not the party | 01:10 |
| van51 | sonney2k: no idea | 01:10 |
| van51 | sonney2k: let me check | 01:10 |
| @iglesiasg | It has been really great i think | 01:10 |
| @sonney2k | van51, we will try to get some video's uploaded to youtube | 01:10 |
| van51 | around 200 euros | 01:12 |
| van51 | some are cheaper, some are more expensive | 01:12 |
| van51 | sonney2k: yeah that would be nice | 01:12 |
| @sonney2k | van51, we would love to meet you too | 01:13 |
| @sonney2k | van51, this is actually the first time we all meet IRL | 01:13 |
| van51 | sonney2k: hehe | 01:14 |
| @wiking | heheh | 01:14 |
| van51 | sonney2k: sounds like you hit it off well though | 01:15 |
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| gsomix | sonney2k, hey | 08:50 |
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| @wiking | yo | 12:27 |
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| @sonney2k | wiking, iglesiasg already at TU? | 13:04 |
| @sonney2k | van51, around? | 13:11 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, how is the .csv stuff doing? | 13:11 |
| van51 | sonney2k: yea | 13:12 |
| van51 | sonney2k: hi | 13:12 |
| @sonney2k | van51, I am wondering a bit about the PR | 13:12 |
| @sonney2k | van51, so it is for dense features right? | 13:12 |
| van51 | sonney2k: yes | 13:12 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, hi. I have some questions. | 13:12 |
| @sonney2k | I mean you compress dense features | 13:12 |
| @sonney2k | van51, I am not sure anyone would even do that | 13:13 |
| foulwall | sonney2k , I almost finish the ocr demo, when I finish, i'll push it on nn.7nn.de and show you | 13:13 |
| @sonney2k | van51, I mean when you can laod the data into memory why not use it? | 13:13 |
| van51 | sonney2k: i did that because that's what we had discussed | 13:13 |
| @sonney2k | van51, it would make a lot of sense for sparse features though | 13:13 |
| van51 | sonney2k: but reasons for doing it | 13:14 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, cool | 13:14 |
| van51 | sonney2k: would be to introduced this randomness from the dim reduction | 13:14 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, where are they? | 13:14 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, should csv reader work with quotes? | 13:14 |
| van51 | sonney2k: I am also working on a sparse features equivalent btw | 13:14 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, what to do with multi-typed csv files? | 13:14 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, would be cool | 13:14 |
| van51 | sonney2k: I'm not arguing it will be used.. you re probably right. I can just submit another PR later on about the sparse features | 13:15 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, we don't have multi-typed in shogun | 13:15 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, I mean I can write methods for mono-typed csv - readVector and readMatrix. And some methods for reading cell by cell - readInt, readString... | 13:16 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: yeah! sorry for the delay, I was grabbing some food | 13:17 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, btw, what do you prefer? templated CSVReader class with SGVector<T> readVector() and SGMatrix<T> readMatrix() methods? | 13:17 |
| gsomix | or not templated class with many readIntVector(), readByteVector()... | 13:18 |
| @sonney2k | foulwall, I showed parts of your demos at the workshop. People were very excited and liked it :) | 13:19 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, what produces less code :) | 13:20 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, there is no one who does understand better. food -> priority | 13:21 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, today is coding session on workshop? | 13:22 |
| @sonney2k | van51, for sparse it makes a lot of sense | 13:22 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, today and tomorrow yes | 13:22 |
| van51 | sonney2k: ok I'll have it done in a couple hours :) | 13:22 |
| @sonney2k | I am still in the train to get there | 13:22 |
| van51 | sonney2k: I'll close that PR | 13:22 |
| @sonney2k | van51, well maybe not | 13:22 |
| @sonney2k | it might make sense for some cases when you do streaming again | 13:23 |
| @sonney2k | or need speed | 13:23 |
| @sonney2k | or a classifier that requires little memory | 13:23 |
| van51 | sonney2k: streaming would be a different class though | 13:23 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, cool. unfortunately I can only watch part of your and Sergey's reports. | 13:23 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: so when are you coming? :) | 13:24 |
| @sonney2k | van51, true but it will be written in a way that it uses the same functions | 13:24 |
| @sonney2k | so not really code duplication | 13:24 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, ahh, and one more question. should I replace FILE* by shogun's File class? | 13:24 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, I am in the train. I left directly from the swimming hall | 13:25 |
| @sonney2k | van51, so let me merge this then | 13:25 |
| van51 | sonney2k: but they are instance methods atm | 13:25 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: van51 :develop * 265b751 / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/265b7515fc0b3bd3e529788c6fbd034a73eb0def | 13:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: HashedDenseFeatures class | 13:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 9290cec / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9290cec6119d8035e2565fae2bbb1f24f3edc298 | 13:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1238 from van51/feature/hashing | 13:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 13:26 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: HashedDenseFeatures class | 13:26 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k: cool! | 13:26 |
| @sonney2k | van51, well easy to fix right? | 13:26 |
| van51 | sonney2k: yeah I guess | 13:26 |
| van51 | sonney2k: btw a friend of mine is sitting an exam on Monday and I may have to help her | 13:26 |
| van51 | sonney2k: so I may be offline this weekend on irc | 13:27 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, errm isn't CSVReader derived from CFile? | 13:27 |
| van51 | sonney2k: but I'll keep working | 13:27 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, nope. should be? ok. :) | 13:27 |
| @sonney2k | van51, foulwall, gsomix I am going on vacations tomorrow (for 3 weeks) but I bought some prepaid card so I will have internet access usually around maybe 10 UTC / 19 UTC+ | 13:28 |
| van51 | sonney2k: ah nice :) have fun :D | 13:28 |
| van51 | sonney2k: as long as you reply to emails I'm ok :p | 13:29 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, yeah well your class will basically replace ASCIIReader | 13:29 |
| foulwall | :) sonney2k have fun | 13:30 |
| @sonney2k | sure email might be better for communication but of course chat is possible but not spontaneously | 13:30 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, so this answers the question about templated vs non-templated :/ | 13:30 |
| @sonney2k | CFile doesn't use templates | 13:31 |
| @sonney2k | so you also cannot | 13:31 |
| @wiking | mmm | 13:32 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, so all you have to do is implement the get_ and set_* functions | 13:32 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, yes? | 13:32 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, can I use some magic of macroses/defines? | 13:32 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: what does check_complex_supported_class suppose to do | 13:32 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, ask Heiko! | 13:32 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: we have a problem that: TypeError: object of type 'filter' has no len() | 13:32 |
| @wiking | in python3 | 13:32 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, look at ascii reader and you will see that we do this too! | 13:32 |
| gsomix | ah, ok. IIRC get_, set_ works with memory blocks directly. should replace by SGVectors? | 13:32 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, ok. ^__^' | 13:33 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, but it doesn't use your line reader... | 13:33 |
| @wiking | ok i see lambday commmited | 13:34 |
| @wiking | i'll ask heiko | 13:34 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, do it with pointers for the moment - a switch would mean you also have to change all *File Classes | 13:34 |
| @sonney2k | possible but quite some work | 13:34 |
| gsomix | maybe I can to do this scheme: CFile (low-level functions for reading) -> CLineReader (with some method for reading lines and basic types) -> CSVReader (high-level reading of structured file). | 13:35 |
| @sonney2k | no | 13:36 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, look at File.h | 13:36 |
| gsomix | ok | 13:37 |
| gsomix | sonney2k, I get what do you mean now. | 13:38 |
| gsomix | I should not change CFile interface. | 13:40 |
| gsomix | CFile -> CSVReader (that uses LineReader for parsing). right? | 13:41 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/9037286 | 13:49 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 4a38c00 / src/shogun/base/class_list.cpp.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4a38c0002f745119b00214f27823ac571a4f4e50 | 13:49 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix issue #1239 | 13:49 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: object of type 'filter' has no len() | 13:49 |
| @wiking | \o/ one bug down | 13:49 |
| -!- wiking changed the topic of #shogun to: Shogun Machine Learning Toolbox | Devs are usually around between 10am-10pm UTC | Workshop upcoming July 12-14, Berlin C-Base http://bit.ly/146Jtv8 | We participate in GSoC 2013 http://bit.ly/16LaK5Z | When asking questions please be patient or use the mailing list. We always answer but it might take a while. | Channel logs http://bit.ly/eQDk8Q | 13:52 | |
| @wiking | nomore livestream :P | 13:52 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1039 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1039 | 13:52 |
| gsomix | wiking, :( | 13:52 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1040 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1040 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 13:53 |
| @wiking | mmm another bug to be down ;) | 14:07 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1041 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1041 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 14:21 |
| van51 | gsomix: you complete me | 14:50 |
| van51 | gsomix: did you try it? :) | 14:50 |
| gsomix | van51, wut? | 14:50 |
| van51 | gsomix: the plugin for vim, YouCompleteMe | 14:50 |
| gsomix | nope, I'm still on gedit | 14:51 |
| van51 | gsomix: I installed it today | 14:51 |
| van51 | gsomix: I like it | 14:51 |
| van51 | gsomix: I'll probably switch from gedit now | 14:51 |
| gsomix | van51, cool. most of shoguners uses vim. :) | 14:53 |
| van51 | gsomix: I'll fit in now *.* | 14:55 |
| gsomix | huh :) | 14:57 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * f8a7d4c / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/f8a7d4cd5dbd17b05d65cb3253df15d02d2ad20e | 16:08 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix issue #1240 | 16:08 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #1042 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure] Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1042 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 16:22 |
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| @HeikoS | http://nbviewer.ipython.org/5982623 | 16:27 |
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| @HeikoS | http://nbviewer.ipython.org/5982623 | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | http://nbviewer.ipython.org/5982623 | 16:30 |
| @sonney2k | gsomix, sry had to leave train and was copying videos of the workshop over | 16:41 |
| @sonney2k | just back now | 16:41 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 26eb10e / src/shogun/mathematics/Random.cpp,tests/unit/mathematics/Random_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/26eb10e5a8db80d4d102f79e023c0b187e19e762 | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: change random seed to current time in 1/100s and change unit tests | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * d67da32 / src/shogun/mathematics/Math.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d67da3264f21267b33e9b911676f647ae4f4321d | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: removed warning | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * af869bd / tests/unit/converter/Isomap_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/af869bd216c824ca57c87e424f74cfd0c5075355 | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: removed warning | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * c65563a / tests/unit/Makefile: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/c65563ad3d9bf8bd56e59f88ee85cd32d97abb16 | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: compile with warnings as errors | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * fb79c1c / tests/unit/lib/CircularBuffer_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/fb79c1c9f503e148b39060d3d223aa818618784c | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: removed warning | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * dd719d2 / tests/unit/mathematics/Random_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/dd719d2638e3f43ae76d3f42c69630ca1a13fb5a | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: unit test for checking correct quantiles of std normal rnd | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 4aaab3d / tests/unit/mathematics/Random_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4aaab3d7542f92f21cd17264e7b557905d62ac45 | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: removed print output | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 5198696 / / (6 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5198696697fff8aff2144c42d54f64fb16cf0c70 | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #1241 from karlnapf/develop | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 18:00 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: some random fixes/changes/tests | 18:00 |
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| ssd__ | hi guys: there is a problem with dist-packages vs. site-packages for python: arch linux python 2.7 apparently does not find the packages in dis-packages. | 18:03 |
| ssd__ | this seems to be a debian-specific way: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9387928/whats-the-difference-between-dist-packages-and-site-packages | 18:04 |
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| @sonney2k | wiking, I just created a minimal R example with ref/unref and it seems to work... | 18:12 |
| @sonney2k | so maybe it is some shogun issue with whatever overloading of ref/unref | 18:13 |
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| gsomix | sonney2k, cool! make videos of workshop is a great idea. | 21:28 |
| gsomix | cu tomorrow | 21:28 |
| * gsomix z-z-z-z | 21:28 | |
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| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, hey tourist! | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: hey hey | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: are you out of town already? | 23:10 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, how is it like | 23:10 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, no not yet | 23:10 |
| @sonney2k | tomorrow morning | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: how is it like what? | 23:10 |
| @sonney2k | I left the workshop around 17:15 | 23:10 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, your sightseeing business | 23:11 |
| @sonney2k | what places did you check out? | 23:11 |
| @sonney2k | did you go on top of the tv-tower? | 23:11 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I wanted to but it is like being repaired or so? | 23:11 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I did go to the top of siegessaeule | 23:11 |
| @sonney2k | that is at least sth | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I am totally pissed off - I just got to know no shops tomorrow | 23:12 |
| @sonney2k | btw I can show you where I work | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: it is like a bit lower from alexplatz by spree yes/ | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | ? | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I've been to zoo today | 23:13 |
| lisitsyn | instead of some hacking | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | https://maps.google.de/maps?q=52.495474,13.46199&ll=52.495262,13.462125&spn=0.002812,0.008256&num=1&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=52.495262,13.462125&panoid=gdbwoEyi-4M_SYC6t2D-dA&cbp=12,308.65,,0,-28.95 | 23:13 |
| lisitsyn | hehe | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, well we missed you | 23:14 |
| @sonney2k | you should consider to stop by for some short time at least | 23:14 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I think I have seen mueggelsee when I was in plane | 23:17 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, might be | 23:17 |
| lisitsyn | I believe so :D | 23:17 |
| @sonney2k | berlin has lots of lakes | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: my vision is totally bad so I am not sure | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | but there was lake and we like landed in a minute | 23:19 |
| @sonney2k | mueggelsee is berlins biggest lake | 23:24 |
| @sonney2k | so chances are good that this was the one ;) | 23:25 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: yeah no idea how do you get to the other side | 23:25 |
| @sonney2k | across the lake is just 3.5km | 23:25 |
| @sonney2k | but it is kind of an ellipsoid | 23:26 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I mean if you swim 3.5km is like ehmm | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | so this is the longer one | 23:26 |
| lisitsyn | how many hours? 2? 3? | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | maybe 1:15 to 1:30 | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | not so fast | 23:26 |
| lisitsyn | oh really? | 23:26 |
| lisitsyn | I am bad in such timing | 23:26 |
| @sonney2k | I guess the best swim the thing in half the time | 23:27 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I have visited: zoo, siegessaeule, reichstag, brandenburger tor, bundesrat, alexanderplatz, checkpoint charlie | 23:28 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: can you suggest anything particular to add? | 23:28 |
| lisitsyn | we walked through tiergarten (all the streets here) and visited rosengarten too | 23:29 |
| lisitsyn | berliner dom too | 23:30 |
| lisitsyn | humboldt university etc | 23:30 |
| lisitsyn | all the things on this street | 23:30 |
| @sonney2k | you are japanese! | 23:30 |
| lisitsyn | friedrichstrasse I guess | 23:30 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: why? | 23:30 |
| @sonney2k | so unter den linden etc | 23:30 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I believe I am not :D | 23:30 |
| @sonney2k | I think you have seen more of berlin than me | 23:30 |
| lisitsyn | haha | 23:31 |
| @sonney2k | well the region around hackischer markt is hip | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: we also have been to moabit | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | I don't want to get there anymore | 23:31 |
| @sonney2k | the western center around zoologischer garten / kudamm is not so much but also a tourist thing | 23:32 |
| @sonney2k | I think the nicest part really is around the 'Dom' | 23:32 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: kudamm and zoo are just like in 1km from me so we walked here already | 23:32 |
| lisitsyn | I am scaried with moabit | 23:32 |
| @sonney2k | with alexanderplatz, hackescher markt | 23:32 |
| @sonney2k | there is tons of museums at museumsinsel | 23:33 |
| @sonney2k | like pergamon museum (famous) | 23:33 |
| @sonney2k | not sure if you are into such stuff | 23:33 |
| lisitsyn | I don't know too! | 23:33 |
| @sonney2k | that might be something but it is big... | 23:33 |
| @sonney2k | there is one thing if the weather is nice | 23:34 |
| @sonney2k | you could go to jannowitzbruecke again | 23:34 |
| @sonney2k | and take a boat ride | 23:34 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: oh thanks for suggestions! | 23:34 |
| @sonney2k | these are pretty neat | 23:34 |
| @sonney2k | there is one tour that goes through 100 bridges or so | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | through east/west | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | so you will see everything again from the water | 23:35 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: by spree or that channel between ku'damm and tiergarten? | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | yeah spree and some channel | 23:35 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: bus 100 is awesome I think we should ride it | 23:36 |
| lisitsyn | have you tried it? | 23:36 |
| @sonney2k | http://www.berlin.de/tourismus/dampferfahrten/schiffstouren-schifffahrten/2484915-2502534-schiffstour-brueckenfahrt-23-kilometer-k.html | 23:36 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, yes they kept that bus for tourists :) | 23:36 |
| @sonney2k | http://www.berlinberlin.de/Schiffahrten/brueckentour-berlin.html | 23:37 |
| @sonney2k | I guess you have seen potsdamer platz and the 'hauptbahnhof' | 23:38 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: yeah we have been to potsdamer twice or so | 23:38 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: we had lunch at some 'FBI' cafe | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | with fernando | 23:39 |
| lisitsyn | oh my god it was awful | 23:39 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, ok actually that is the tour that I meant http://www.sternundkreis.de/de/Unsere-Touren/Innenstadt/Brueckenfahrt-ab-Friedrichstr./K235.htm | 23:39 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, it takes 3.5 hrs | 23:39 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, yeah potsdamer platz is for tourists too | 23:40 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: if you have some enemy | 23:40 |
| lisitsyn | just say 'visit FBI at potsdamer platz' | 23:40 |
| lisitsyn | and take rice with cous cous sauce | 23:40 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 23:40 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: thanks for the tour suggestion | 23:41 |
| @sonney2k | you can buy tickets directly at jannowitzbruecke etc | 23:42 |
| lisitsyn | that's nice | 23:42 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: because I still don't know how to buy tickets for bus | 23:42 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 23:42 |
| @sonney2k | anyway I think you have seen quite alot already | 23:42 |
| @sonney2k | you could also visit 'gaerten der welt' | 23:42 |
| @sonney2k | some gardens | 23:42 |
| @sonney2k | I mean a biiiig park | 23:42 |
| @sonney2k | with lots of flowers maze's and stuff | 23:43 |
| lisitsyn | let me check | 23:43 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: my parents would be happy to see such photos haha | 23:43 |
| @sonney2k | http://www.lonelyplanet.com/germany/berlin/sights/garden/garten-der-welt | 23:43 |
| lisitsyn | oh that's C zone! | 23:44 |
| @sonney2k | or you could visit http://www.potsdam-park-sanssouci.de/ | 23:44 |
| @sonney2k | or even better the TU berlin :P | 23:45 |
| lisitsyn | haha okay I will consider that but can't promise anything | 23:45 |
| lisitsyn | as I am not alone and vote :D | 23:45 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, anyways have nice holidays I am tired now. That's been looong days | 23:45 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, well people are around 11-16 or so | 23:46 |
| @sonney2k | but wiking has to leave early | 23:46 |
| lisitsyn | I see | 23:46 |
| @sonney2k | so rather have a 1-2 hour look in the morning and then do some sightseeing | 23:46 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: alright | 23:46 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: so then take some rest | 23:47 |
| @sonney2k | you could walk from ernst-reuter platz | 23:47 |
| lisitsyn | nice holidays for you too | 23:47 |
| lisitsyn | uh no idea where it is | 23:47 |
| @sonney2k | the place where love parade used to end | 23:47 |
| lisitsyn | ahh strasse des siebenzehn juni | 23:47 |
| lisitsyn | I have been quite near | 23:48 |
| @sonney2k | yes | 23:48 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: my opinion is that it is the best street in berlin btw | 23:48 |
| lisitsyn | (from what I have seen) | 23:49 |
| @sonney2k | I like unter den linden more | 23:49 |
| @sonney2k | but hey I must say that I am from the 'east' | 23:49 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: sowjetische! | 23:50 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: and I must complain deutsch is a bit complex sometimes | 23:51 |
| lisitsyn | I have a few dictionaries on my phone | 23:51 |
| lisitsyn | and no dictionary had gaenge | 23:51 |
| lisitsyn | so when we was to traube restaraunt | 23:51 |
| lisitsyn | (that's the only place I have seen that word) | 23:51 |
| lisitsyn | I asked 'sorry what is gaenge' :D | 23:52 |
| lisitsyn | shameful as usual | 23:52 |
| @sonney2k | nothing to worry about | 23:53 |
| @sonney2k | berlin is full of tourist in the summer | 23:54 |
| @sonney2k | so you are not alone and they want YOUR money so they have to behave so you cannot ask a question that is too ``stupid'' | 23:54 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: you have seen I am like freezed due to limited languages experience | 23:55 |
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