IRC logs of #shogun for Friday, 2013-08-16

--- Log opened Fri Aug 16 00:00:17 2013
shogun-buildbotbuild #1526 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/152600:02
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1437 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1437  blamelist: Viktor Gal <vigsterkr@gmail.com>00:10
shogun-buildbotbuild #1407 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/1407  blamelist: Viktor Gal <vigsterkr@gmail.com>00:11
shogun-buildbotbuild #1227 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1227  blamelist: Viktor Gal <vigsterkr@gmail.com>00:14
@iglesiasggood night guys00:22
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Roman Votyakov :develop * 5637c38 / src/shogun/ (10 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5637c3851cecf6e68bae7092c6950e6495f3642601:20
shogun-notifier-shogun: pull up common functionality of inference method classes01:20
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 674c429 / src/shogun/ (10 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/674c4296b2a1d889f6d05c8de6ba329fcc2f75af01:20
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1428 from votjakovr/feature/gp_refactoring01:20
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Pull up common functionality of inference method classes01:20
shogun-notifier-shogun: Roman Votyakov :develop * 129cb23 / src/shogun/distributions/classical/ (2 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/129cb231325b3a4fffaac8a9cc7f0961a2adb05501:30
shogun-notifier-shogun: fix doxygen warning01:30
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * be81053 / src/shogun/distributions/classical/ (2 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/be8105351e78f8502ea377b5b97a733ac43ef37501:30
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1429 from votjakovr/feature/fix_doxygen_warning01:30
shogun-notifier-shogun:01:30
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fix doxygen warning01:30
shogun-buildbotbuild #902 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/902  blamelist: Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>01:39
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1408 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/1408  blamelist: Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>01:42
shogun-buildbotbuild #903 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/903  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>01:42
shogun-buildbotbuild #1228 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1228  blamelist: Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>01:42
shogun-buildbotbuild #1438 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1438  blamelist: Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>01:42
shogun-buildbotbuild #1229 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1229  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>01:46
shogun-buildbotbuild #1439 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1439  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>01:47
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1409 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/1409  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>02:10
shogun-buildbotbuild #1410 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/1410  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>02:10
shogun-buildbotbuild #1529 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/1529  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>02:11
shogun-buildbotbuild #904 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/904  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>02:11
shogun-buildbotbuild #1230 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1230  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>02:14
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shogun-buildbotbuild #435 of nightly_none is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_none/builds/43503:09
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@wikingwooohooo08:42
@wikingsonne|work: http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_default/builds/491/steps/shell/logs/stdio08:42
@wikingwe have tar.gz for the first time \o08:44
sonne|workwiking: nice. so doc built too?08:58
sonne|workbut still 50% of the stuff is b0rken still08:58
sonne|workwiking: some other topic - could you upload the video recordings?08:59
@wikingsonne|work: indeed08:59
@wikingsonne|work: btw: i think there's something wrong with ref counting: http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/nightly_none/builds/435/steps/compile/logs/stdio08:59
@wikingi mean with the new patches...08:59
@wikingsonne|work: and could you just comment on this: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/143009:00
@wikinggo/no-go?09:00
sonne|workwiking: sure SG_MALLOC and friends are supposed to be used everywhere. maybe we should have some simple shell script test grepping for malloc / calloc / free on the buildbot to ensure that this doesn't happen?09:04
@wikingsonne|work: yes that's a good idea09:08
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 3afceea / cmake/FindHoard.cmake,cmake/FindJemalloc.cmake: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3afceea2fd811600f4d1cd044fffeff508e399b309:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fix package finder scripts for Jemalloc and Hoard09:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 2295109 / / (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/22951095158051c93030868566ee5531539f6bd209:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: when using jemalloc simply bundle it09:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * da49a48 / src/shogun/ (11 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/da49a48c02c144eb1b85b20aebf1a49e7435bcde09:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Unify memory allocation calls accross the library09:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 7486c04 / / (16 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/7486c04d26814e35be2dc1c383f32d47b05c57db09:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1430 from vigsterkr/develop09:08
shogun-notifier-shogun:09:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Unify memory allocation calls accross the library09:08
sonne|workwiking: you have to be cautious though - e.g. Map should not use SG_MALLOC in all cases09:10
shogun-buildbotbuild #1411 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/1411  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>09:14
shogun-buildbotbuild #905 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/905  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>09:14
@wikingsonne|work: libshogun examples were always -O0 -g only right?09:15
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shogun-buildbotbuild #1441 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1441  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>09:17
shogun-buildbotbuild #1231 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/1231  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>09:17
shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 2ae2e55 / CMakeLists.txt,src/shogun/lib/config.h.in,tests/unit/CMakeLists.txt: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2ae2e55d562949415aeed3c3539ddc2cb9dcf7b609:17
shogun-notifier-shogun: Add USE_LOGCACHE and USE_LOGSUMARRAY options to cmake09:17
shogun-notifier-shogun: Try to fix gtest compilation on CYGWIN (issue #1418)09:17
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sonne|workwiking: -O0 sufficient for the test at least09:20
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@wikingsonne|work: ok because now if u compile Relase then all the optimization flags are passed for the libshogun examples :(09:20
@wikingi'll fix this09:20
@wikingshogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'cyg1 - libshogun'09:23
shogun-buildbotbuild forced [ETA 16m21s]09:23
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes09:23
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lisitsynshit happens!09:24
@wikingwhy?09:24
@wikingah doc09:24
@wikingsonne|work: should we generate all the modular interfaces with nightly-default? thus we have all the modular interfaces as well in the generated package?09:26
sonne|worknightly default shoudl include all interfaces09:26
sonne|workit used to be what ./configure would do09:26
@wikingsonne|work: ok09:27
sonne|workso detect all interfaces that are available and make sure that stuff works as is09:27
@wikingfixing09:27
sonne|worknightly_all adds all possible flags with TRUE09:27
sonne|work(as you can see in the config)09:27
@wikingsonne|work: currently interfaces are only built when asked for...09:27
sonne|workand nightly_none disables all (e.g. no eigen no lapack etc) and checks for such build failures09:27
shogun-buildbotbuild #1232 of cyg1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/cyg1%20-%20libshogun/builds/123209:27
@wikingfuck this did not help :(09:28
sonne|workwiking: but can you in the meantime upload the videos?09:28
@wikingi'm trying09:28
@wikingi wonder why fileno is not declared.... it's in stdio09:30
sonne|workwiking: I guess they miss some include?09:31
@wikingsonne|work: but it's in that header file :)09:32
sonne|workwiking: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-10/msg00131.html09:32
@wikingstdlib stdio are both included09:32
sonne|workfileno is  *not* a ANSI functions09:32
sonne|workfunction09:32
lisitsynhushell: have you looked through http://ai.stanford.edu/~bangpeng/document/iccv11_0981.pdf ?09:33
lisitsynjust out of curiosity :)09:33
@wikingsonne|work: but we dont have -ansi09:33
sonne|workwiking: we have c++11 which is09:34
@wikingsonne|work: does that imply -ansi by default?09:34
sonne|workwiking: looks like. I had other errors in shogun due to c++11 exactly like that09:35
@wikingsonne|work: should we disable c++11 for cygwin? :D09:38
@wikingsonne|work: Google Test is designed to conform to the POSIX standard on UNIX-like09:39
@wiking> systems. It it will likely not work when pure ANSI conformance is expected.09:40
@wiking> I suggest compiling it without the -ansi option09:40
lisitsynhaha I never expected such troubles09:41
lisitsyncrazy09:41
@wikingi guess no c++11 then for cygwin09:41
shogun-buildbotbuild #1530 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/153009:47
shogun-buildbotbuild #906 of rpm1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/rpm1%20-%20libshogun/builds/906  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>09:52
shogun-buildbotbuild #1412 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/buildbot/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/1412  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>09:52
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hushelllisitsyn: I knew this paper, but do not read it carefully :( The idea is associating parameters of a potential to the nodes in a decision tree?10:04
lisitsynhushell: I didn't read it yet10:04
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hushelllisitsyn: seems a good alternative of common max likelihood parameter estimation10:05
hushelland they provide code right now, we can think about include it to Shogun :)10:06
hushellwiking: CMake seems doesn't work for me, an example cannot compile :(10:06
hushellwiking: evaluation_cross_validation_regression.cpp:60:2: error: 'CKernelRidgeRegression' was not declared in this scope10:06
hushellwiking: The library is okay but this example failed, is this because CPLEX?10:08
lisitsynhushell: no, license is sh*t10:08
lisitsynMSR-LA10:09
hushelloh my god, Sebastian is awesome, but he works for MSR10:09
lisitsynI am curious if it is rewritable from the paper (to avoid being derivative work) :D10:10
@wikinghushell: mmm10:11
hushelllisitsyn: It's possible, I am reading the first 2 sections, seems quite practical10:11
@wikinghushell: lapack detection... ok can u plz give me your cmake output?10:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * d7f8e3e / CMakeLists.txt,tests/unit/CMakeLists.txt: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d7f8e3ef5c9371f41a94ef942c368acd8ec2c11e10:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: Disable c++11 on CYGWIN10:12
@wikingshogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'cyg1 - libshogun'10:12
shogun-buildbotbuild forced [ETA 16m21s]10:12
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes10:12
hushellwiking: which one? I don't have the ATLAS_*10:14
@wikinghushell: just send me the cmake output10:15
hushellwiking: okay, I understand now, I was using ccmake, I can run it with cmake10:16
hushellwiking: sent it10:18
@wikingkthnx10:18
@wikinghushell: what's your distro?10:26
thoralfHey guys10:31
thoralf(and mates? ;))10:31
hushellwiking: Ubuntu 11.0410:31
@wikinghushell: mmm okey10:32
@wikinghushell: -- Looking for clapack_dpotrf in /usr/lib/liblapack.so - not found10:32
@wikingok no i see10:33
@wikingi'll try to fix it asap10:33
hushellwiking: hmm, I found it :)10:33
@wikinghushell: do you have something like libcblas* under /usr/ ?10:34
hushellwiking: liblapack.so is there and I am sure I apt-geted it before10:34
@wikingi suppose /usr/lib or somewhere10:34
@wikinghushell: find /usr -name 'libcblas*'10:34
hushellwiking: no, I haven't installed the ATLAS stuffs, but interestingly I found /usr/include/cblas.h10:36
@wikinghushell: yep but you would need libcblas as well10:38
@wikingdo you have it anywhere under /usr?10:38
@wikingor no10:38
hushellwiking: sorry, I am using Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) 64-bit10:38
hushellwiking: no I didn't find it10:38
hushelllet me try to install it10:38
@wikingnono10:39
@wikingdont need to install it10:39
@wikingi was just wondering10:39
@wikingif it's there and cmake doesn't detect it10:39
@wikingor it's really not there10:39
@wikingbut if find /usr -name 'libcblas*'10:39
@wikingdid not give you anything10:39
@wikingthen cmake is right10:39
@wikingand there's a little bug among the examples10:39
@wikingi've already fixed it10:39
shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 62e2c31 / examples/undocumented/libshogun/evaluation_cross_validation_regression.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/62e2c31c14acb78d2064b4900559395aca042c6410:40
shogun-notifier-shogun: evaluation_cross_validation_regression example requires LAPACK10:40
hushellwiking: why use cblas? libblas.so is not the right one?10:42
hushellwiking: I don't think the examples have problem, they are fine before10:42
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@wikinghushell: yes but anyways evaluation_cross_validation_regression uses KernelRidgeRegression that need LAPACK10:43
@wikingso that needed to fixed anyways10:43
hushellwiking: okay, now I have libcblas.so, let me try again10:43
@wikinghushell: nonononoooooo10:43
@wikinghushell: it will work now10:43
@wiking:)))10:43
@wikingi mean it's not a problem for u10:43
@wikingbut a problem for me :P10:43
hushellwiking: :D10:45
sonne|workwiking: maybe we disable gtest for cygwin then. we need c++11 there too for the atomic int10:48
@wikingsonne|work: it now works...10:48
@wikingsonne|work: but of course w/o c++1110:48
@wikingsonne|work: i mean yeah that's a tradeoff10:48
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@wikingsonne|work: btw: libblas.so should have cblas functions?10:49
sonne|workwiking: I think users would rather use it with c++11 on cygwin so we should compile with that10:49
sonne|workwiking: no10:49
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@wikingsonne|work: ok so then as you see now the problem on cygwin is that there's now HAVE_LAPACK10:49
@wikingsonne|work: that's hy the unit test fails10:49
sonne|workwiking: err IDK10:49
@wikingsonne|work: ok i'll check now on a droplet10:50
@wikinghushell: so you used 12.0410:50
@wikingdigital ocean i love you :P10:50
@wikingsonne|work: ok so if we want c++11 on cygwin then we won't have unit testing on cygwin10:51
@wikingbot10:51
@wikingsonne|work: but still the examples can be tested...10:52
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@wikingsonne|work: i mean of course the other possibility is that cygwin does have c++11 if u dont want to run the unit tests10:53
hushellwiking: yep, I forgot I installed a new version on this laptop10:53
@wikingsonne|work: if u run the unit tests then c++11 will be disabled on cygwin10:53
@wikinghushell: that's ok i just want to reproduce this10:54
hushellwiking: after installing libatlas-base-dev, everything is fine10:55
@wikinghushell: yeah i know :P10:55
hushellbut why the old configure version doesn't have this problem10:56
@wikinghushell: yeah that's what i'm trying to find out now10:57
hushellwiking: we don't have "make tests" now?10:58
sonne|workwiking: or the other way round - if c++11 is enabled unit tests will be disabled10:58
sonne|workwiking: in any case I would just turn the unit tests of on cygwin and just run the libshogun examples10:59
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hushelltime to go to bed. CU guys, enjoy!11:04
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@wikinglisitsyn: after replacing the operator new: http://pic.twitter.com/9Me7twoFyw11:16
lisitsynwiking: oh this one looks a bit more significant11:17
@wikingyeah i mean the mallocs were not really replaced11:17
@wiking:P11:17
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@wikinglisitsyn: and quite frankly this really just a stupid test and kind of this is the only memory extensive test11:18
@wikingok when i have time i'll add tcmalloc as well.... let's see this cblas/blas shit again11:22
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sonne|workwiking: wow quite a change. you sure it is only that?11:26
sonne|workvan511: https://code.google.com/p/word2vec/11:28
van511sonne|work: checking it11:37
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thoralfwiking: When I'm in the build/ dir, is there a way to explicitly only build the library or the unit-tests?11:42
@wikingthoralf: make shogun11:43
thoralfwiking: Cool, thanks.  What does shogun/fast do?11:44
@wikingthoralf: make unit-tests11:44
@wikingthoralf: that's added by cmake -> no idea11:45
thoralfOkay.11:45
thoralfThanks.11:45
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Thoralf Klein :develop * 03fc60a / src/shogun/io/streaming/InputParser.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/03fc60a2591a2e5107dfa0b7bb8ddf227010ab9211:49
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1423 from tklein23/duplicate_mutex_init11:49
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Removed duplicate mutex initialization.11:49
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thoralfWhile parallel training of a few thousand SVMs the virtual memory size grows up to 80GB (not swap usage), while resident size stays at 18GB.12:05
thoralfAny explanations for that?12:05
thoralfNot quite a shogun question, but it somehow scares me. ;)12:06
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sonne|workthoralf: what kind of svms? kernel svms?12:07
thoralfsonne|work: No, only liblinear.12:07
thoralfsonne|work: But about 7000.12:07
sonne|workthoralf: feeding data from memory mapped files?12:07
thoralf(Running 16 in parallel using threads)12:07
thoralfsonne|work: No.12:07
sonne|workcopying data?12:08
sonne|workI can tell it cannot happen!12:08
sonne|workwith shogun virtual == resident memory most of the time12:08
sonne|workexcept if you use big caches somewhere that are only half used12:09
thoralfsonne|work: No, only reading a sparse matrix it once into memory and then only creating sparse-feature-files with the same matrix.12:09
thoralfsonne|work: No explicit caching.  The only thing I keep after every training run is a weight vector.12:10
sonne|workit must be some big memory blocks you allocate12:10
thoralfsonne|work: resident size is no problem, though.12:10
sonne|workthoralf: have a look at /proc/<PID>/smaps if you see sth massive in there12:12
thoralfNo explicit allocations on my side except this big matrix.  Maybe I'm doing it implictly and using liblinear - constantly allocating and deallocating big chunks.12:12
sonne|workthoralf: only other option is to run with trace-mallocs and check12:12
sonne|workthoralf: no liblinear doesn't need extra memory12:12
thoralfsonne|work: No leaks. ;)12:12
sonne|work`just' your big matrix12:12
sonne|workthoralf: sure no leaks but you could display the currently allocated stuff12:12
thoralfI'll check.12:13
thoralfsonne|work: Okay, smaps seems to help.  "Size:" sums up to the virtual memory size I got from top.12:27
thoralfsonne|work: Growing count of 65MB blocks.12:27
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thoralfsonne|work: My first observation: memory allocations are slowing down by factor 60-100.13:13
thoralfsonne|work: My second: My usage of threads are problem.13:14
thoralfsonne|work: training 16 svms in parallel *and* each svm doing dot-products-range in parallel (sg_parallel->get_num_threads()) gives 256 threads.13:15
thoralfsonne|work: I don't know how big the per-thread-allocations are, but setting sg_parallel->num_threads = 1 gives me low and constant vmsize.13:16
sonne|workthoralf: ah you mean apply()13:22
thoralfsonne|work: No, train.13:22
sonne|workthoralf: indeed that eats some threads but not memory13:22
sonne|workthoralf: liblinear doesn't use parallel at all13:22
thoralfsonne|work: Oh, yes!  Cross validation does apply() all the time.13:23
thoralfYes.13:23
sonne|workhow many examples / dims btw?13:23
thoralf1M training examples, 2M dimensions13:24
thoralfVery sparse.13:24
thoralfBut 7000 classes. ;)13:24
sonne|workwiking: looks like sth went wrong with the documentation http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/doc/en/current/installation.html13:25
sonne|workthoralf: 7000 classes and multiclass liblinear or do you do 1 vs 1?13:26
thoralfsonne|work: 1 vs 113:27
sonne|workhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t15vP1PyoA nice!13:28
thoralfMultilabel setting - overlapping classes.13:28
sonne|workthoralf: that would explain it13:28
@wikingsonne|work: oh13:30
thoralfsonne|work: Explain what exactly?13:30
sonne|workthoralf: you would get ~7000^2 weight vectors for your 1vs1 ones and do that in parallel with x-val so times 1613:30
sonne|workthoralf: your memory usage13:30
thoralfsonne|work: Yes.13:30
@wikingsonne|work: where should we put patches for third party libs?13:30
thoralfsonne|work: Sorry, not 7000^2.  Only 7000 weight vectors - 1vR13:31
sonne|workwiking: hmmhh scary13:31
thoralfsonne|work: Cool video.  Especially the landing part.13:32
sonne|workthoralf: agreed13:32
sonne|workwiking: can we get these patches integrated into third party? It is a bit scary having to taking care of patches for external sw :/13:33
@wikingsonne|work: mmm well tcmalloc just has been released... so i dont think that the patch will come any time soon13:34
@wikingsonne|work: i mean being integrated...13:34
sonne|workwiking: snapshot?13:35
@wikingsonne|work: mmm not really13:43
@wikingpic.twitter.com/ClxprfXD7z13:46
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@wikingfucking hell: Could NOT find Threads (missing:  Threads_FOUND)14:19
@wikingwith a basic LTS ubuntu + buildessentials14:19
@wikingwtf is this error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set14:22
@wikingokey qemu14:24
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 5ef8a89 / CMakeLists.txt,src/shogun/lib/memory.cpp,cmake/external/TCMalloc.cmake: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5ef8a8993fd2610f8549a7520600b28e60d3ffe014:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Add TCMalloc support14:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * c860a25 / CMakeLists.txt: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/c860a256a7362256017f02326f84bd3bf8e6295e14:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Set HAVE_LAPACK if only lapack and blas has been found14:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Disable c++11 mode on cygwin if unit testing is enabled14:53
@wikingshogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'cyg1 - libshogun'14:54
shogun-buildbotbuild forced [ETA 16m21s]14:55
shogun-buildbotI'll give a shout when the build finishes14:55
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@wikingyey15:50
@wikingcygwin is done \o/15:57
@wikingand github as well :S15:57
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@wikingiglesiasg: yo16:38
@wikingiglesiasg: in poland? :)16:39
@iglesiasgwiking, hey! yep16:39
@wikingwhereabout?16:39
@iglesiasgSopot16:39
@iglesiasgclose to Gdansk16:39
@iglesiasgwiking,  have you been in Poland?16:39
@wikingcool16:40
@wikingyeah just about 3 weeks ago16:40
@iglesiasghehe nice16:40
@iglesiasgwhere were you?16:40
@wikingwhen i was offline for a week16:40
@wikingi was sailing at the mazuri lakes16:40
@wikingit's a pretty cool area16:40
@iglesiasgjust googled it16:41
@iglesiasgit looks pretty nice16:41
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shogun-notifier-shogun: PCA default initialization for LMNN16:43
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 033b45d / / (5 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/033b45d50de6a0ebf215995218ee2cbd0781255516:43
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1431 from iglesias/feature/lmnn16:43
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shogun-notifier-shogun: PCA default initialization for LMNN16:43
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@iglesiasgwiking, should we install a newer version of cmake in rpm buildbot?16:52
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@iglesiasgseg fault in BSD LatentModel.argmax_h16:55
@wikingiglesiasg: yeah i know... about rpm bot i dont know how we can access it16:59
@iglesiasgwiking, all right. Sorry about being annoying with the latent model then :) and let's fix sonney2k the rpm bot17:00
@wikingiglesiasg: ah no worries... i just dont even know wtf is happening there with the mocking fw17:03
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Roman Votyakov :develop * 05a8643 / / (17 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/05a864353ea0d6375e4a1409622c126a2643b16419:01
shogun-notifier-shogun: rename methods for evaluation of predictions in likelihood models19:01
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 3ffa9e4 / / (17 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3ffa9e4b5b6125547bc668765bef72318c780b6419:01
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #1432 from votjakovr/feature/gp_refactoring19:01
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Rename methods for evaluation of predictions in likelihood models19:01
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pickle27does anyone use pidgin with irc?19:35
pickle27Im trying it out for putting all my chat in one place19:35
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van511pickle27: I am using pidgin19:46
pickle27van511: seems to be working good for me atm19:47
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van51pickle27: yea I also like it19:47
pickle27people were chatting at me everywhere and it was getting crazy19:47
van51pickle27: and I never had a problem19:47
van51hehe19:47
van51pickle27: it's really nice that you can combine chats in the same windows etc19:47
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/1028601419:53
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lisitsynhey pickle2721:30
pickle27lisitsyn: hey!21:30
lisitsynpickle27: I wanted to clarify21:30
lisitsynwhat's the issue with ICA base class?21:30
lisitsynI mean I don't mind it for sure - what's that particular you are unsure with?21:31
pickle27lisitsyn: I'm not unsure about anything I just wanted to let you know i was planning to do that21:32
lisitsynahhhh21:32
lisitsyngot it then21:32
lisitsynpickle27: ok then :)21:32
pickle27lisitsyn: theres like 4 classes that all have the same get_mixing_matrix function etc21:32
pickle27so I think it makes sense21:32
lisitsynpickle27: yeah sure21:32
lisitsynpickle27: as for examples21:32
lisitsynI don't know21:33
lisitsynI'd rather add copy paste examples actually21:33
lisitsynat least this way all your algorithms are being run21:33
pickle27lisitsyn: yeah I mean they all have unit tests21:33
pickle27but its super easy to make an example for each21:33
lisitsynyeah but these are for integration tests21:33
pickle27ah okay21:33
lisitsynpickle27: it seems you made a good choice with not going to google :) it seems they have stopped that 20% rule21:35
pickle27lisitsyn: oh really21:35
pickle27that kind of sucks21:35
pickle27my company has quarterly "hack days" where the whole office stops and works on side projects21:36
pickle27its actually pretty common for new tech companies21:36
pickle27they made this video21:36
pickle27http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v80UVaw-qmA21:36
lisitsynpickle27: some people say things like 'never work in a large company'21:37
pickle27this is also true21:38
lisitsynyeah I tend to believe21:38
lisitsynthe company I am working in right now is getting bigger now and I feel it is going worse21:39
lisitsynpickle27: shopify is quite small, right?21:40
pickle27lisitsyn: umm they used to be they're growing a fair bit right now21:47
lisitsynleave it once it is >500 ;)21:48
pickle27they're around 200 now21:48
lisitsynhaha21:48
pickle27I think a lot of web companies plateu around there21:48
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lisitsynpickle27: where are you travelling btw?22:24
lisitsynsonney2k: oh it is the happy bday day for debian today22:25
pickle27lisitsyn: Im going to Japan, New Zealand, Thailand and Hong Kong23:08
lisitsynpickle27 cool23:08
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