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| shogun-buildbot_ | build #630 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed test notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/630 | 04:19 |
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| @iglesiasg | sonne|work1, did you see the shogun-web PR? | 10:15 |
| sonne|work1 | iglesiasg: no | 10:24 |
| @iglesiasg | all right | 10:24 |
| @iglesiasg | just in case you didn't get a notification :) | 10:25 |
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| besser82 | sonne|work: any objections for me to request an own decidated namespace on SuSE's OBS? | 14:56 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: for SHOGUN? | 14:56 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: Since I'm 85% finished on new CMake-stuff and have integrated src-package-generations for .deb and .srpm, we can use that for ci-builds / snapshot-packages for all recent published distros ;) | 14:57 |
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| sonne|work | besser82: OBS? | 14:58 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: Open Build System | 14:58 |
| sonne|work | besser82: why not :) | 14:58 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: GREAT! | 14:59 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: So we can offer own repos with snapshot-builds of shogun for CentOS/RHEL, (Open)SUSE, Debian, Fedora, Arch, *buntu, etc ;) | 15:00 |
| sonne|work | besser82: sounds awesome | 15:02 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: I'm glad you like my idea :D | 15:03 |
| besser82 | sonne|work: requested ;) science:SHOGUN-namespace will be avail within tomorrow on OBS ;) | 15:26 |
| besser82 | sonne|work, wiking, lisitsyn: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/science:shogun :D | 15:44 |
| besser82 | sonne|work, wiking, lisitsyn: you just need to signup with OBS so I can add your users to the project ;) | 15:44 |
| @wiking | besser82: great! can u disable the report bug option? :) | 15:48 |
| besser82 | wiking: let me see.... | 15:48 |
| @wiking | as it would be really confusing to have two different places to report and maintain bug reports | 15:49 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: ohkay | 15:50 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: didn't know you are somehow related to suse too :D | 15:50 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: libyui && YaST ;) | 15:50 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: full push access to both github projects ;) | 15:51 |
| besser82 | wiking, lisitsyn: are you signedup with OBS? | 15:53 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: just did | 15:54 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: login lisitsyn | 15:54 |
| @wiking | besser82: noup | 15:59 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: did you click the link in confirmation-mail? | 15:59 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: yeah I think so | 16:00 |
| @wiking | hahahah | 16:00 |
| @wiking | novel.com | 16:00 |
| @wiking | :D | 16:00 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: OBS tells me: "Couldn't find User with login = lisitsyn "... Might take some time to populate into the db..... | 16:01 |
| @wiking | besser82: uid: vigsterkr | 16:01 |
| besser82 | wiking: like github? ;) | 16:01 |
| @wiking | y | 16:01 |
| @wiking | but i think i have some problems as well with the email validation | 16:02 |
| @wiking | ok validated now | 16:02 |
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| @wiking | the login doesn't realy work :S | 16:04 |
| lisitsyn | el stupido de websitos | 16:05 |
| @wiking | yes | 16:05 |
| lisitsyn | no iglesiasg to laugh at my pseudospanish haha | 16:05 |
| lisitsyn | wiking: this website is pure 100% enterprise | 16:06 |
| lisitsyn | SYSTEMS PRODUCTS TRAININGS | 16:06 |
| lisitsyn | product oriented business modelling requesting global support solutions accountance service | 16:06 |
| lisitsyn | administration terms of service locations customers profiles | 16:07 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn, wiking: can you sucessfully login to obs? | 16:07 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: I think I have business logged in to the global accountance solution service based on client-oriented software | 16:07 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 16:07 |
| lisitsyn | okay actually yes I am logged in | 16:08 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: haha :D | 16:08 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: still can't find your user; let's w8 a bit | 16:08 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: oh it is so enterprise you'd have to wait :D | 16:10 |
| lisitsyn | this website is like oracle website | 16:11 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: In fact, yes :-P | 16:11 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: looked over redhat website? | 16:11 |
| lisitsyn | forms passwords required fields | 16:11 |
| lisitsyn | no, is it more enterprise? | 16:11 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: Definetively, YES! | 16:11 |
| lisitsyn | so one can cry blood seeing it? | 16:12 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: Have yourself a try ;) | 16:12 |
| lisitsyn | Note: Our personalized web services require that your browser be enabled for JavaScript and cookies. | 16:12 |
| lisitsyn | haha oohhaha | 16:12 |
| lisitsyn | I haven't seen word cookies for a while | 16:12 |
| * besser82 has just eaten some :-P | 16:13 | |
| @wiking | heheh i'm registered but cannot login | 16:13 |
| @wiking | :) | 16:13 |
| @wiking | nize | 16:13 |
| @wiking | novell solution | 16:13 |
| @wiking | :D | 16:13 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: design wise it is quite ugly ;) | 16:13 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: though redhat logo is cool I really like it | 16:14 |
| lisitsyn | but again, no idea what made them to put a dot in the end of the <b>red</b>hat | 16:15 |
| lisitsyn | redhat. | 16:15 |
| lisitsyn | why redhat.? :D | 16:15 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: If you are logged in you get spammed by enterprise stuff ----> buy this, get that, more trainings avail, get involved, start now, ..... | 16:15 |
| lisitsyn | besser82: ahhh yeah | 16:15 |
| lisitsyn | take participance in our webinar on shit based oriented solutions | 16:16 |
| besser82 | lisitsyn: *ROFL* | 16:16 |
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| @wiking | besser82: this shiatz is not working | 16:23 |
| besser82 | wiking: did you get an confirm mail? | 16:23 |
| @wiking | yeah it's already done | 16:23 |
| @wiking | but seems the site is not the stablest thing ever | 16:23 |
| lisitsyn | wiking: no it is rock stable | 16:30 |
| lisitsyn | it just doesn't work it is different thing | 16:30 |
| @wiking | lol man | 16:52 |
| @wiking | this is not working | 16:52 |
| @wiking | :D | 16:52 |
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| besser82 | wiking: By refactoring CMake && other stuff I actually have speed gains of ~600% with ccache :-P | 20:04 |
| besser82 | wiking: without ccache and "serial" make there is a gain of ~80% | 20:04 |
| besser82 | wiking: compared to 8 parallel jobs with the current HEAD | 20:05 |
| besser82 | wiking: tomorrow I'm going to get that @$#!?& swig-stuff running && speed-up ;) | 20:06 |
| @wiking | \o/ | 20:08 |
| @wiking | awesome u r | 20:08 |
| besser82 | wiking: from yoda learn should you ;) | 20:12 |
| @wiking | besser82: i'm happy to check on the diff | 20:13 |
| @wiking | even if it's not yet 100% | 20:13 |
| besser82 | wiking: need to check against bsd, cygwin and some other distro (like debian, *buntu), if works, I'll push :D | 20:15 |
| besser82 | wiking: btw. diff is damn big | 20:16 |
| @wiking | besser82: pastebin it | 20:16 |
| @wiking | or gz and send it to wiking@maeth.com | 20:16 |
| besser82 | wiking: kk, will do | 20:17 |
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| @wiking | thnx | 20:18 |
| besser82 | wiking: xz is ok for you, too? | 20:19 |
| besser82 | wiking: with gz it is still > 1Mbyte | 20:20 |
| @wiking | sure | 20:21 |
| @wiking | any arch format is good | 20:21 |
| besser82 | wiking: there is goes :D | 20:22 |
| besser82 | s/is/it/# | 20:22 |
| @wiking | gotit | 20:22 |
| * sonne|osx just finished ballon dog production(tm) | 20:23 | |
| sonne|osx | FYI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJJQ42fvpaY | 20:23 |
| @wiking | what's with the changes in .h | 20:27 |
| @wiking | besser82: ^ | 20:27 |
| @wiking | diff --git a/third_party/tapkee/utils/time.hpp b/third_party/tapkee/utils/time.hpp | 20:29 |
| besser82 | wiking: there shouldn't be much changes in headers.... | 20:31 |
| @wiking | besser82: there's like complete rewrites according to diff :) | 20:32 |
| @wiking | of several header files | 20:32 |
| @wiking | most of the diff is about that actually | 20:32 |
| @wiking | no worries i guess we'll see it in the PR | 20:32 |
| besser82 | wiking: that's actually moving header to a seperate location | 20:32 |
| besser82 | wiking: git mv src/shogun/*/*.h include/shogun | 20:33 |
| besser82 | wiking: git is smart about that; diff is not | 20:33 |
| @wiking | besser82: so u totally moved out .h from src? | 20:34 |
| besser82 | wiking: yes | 20:34 |
| @wiking | mmm | 20:34 |
| besser82 | wiking: all, but lib/external | 20:34 |
| @wiking | i'm not sure people will be thrilled about that | 20:34 |
| besser82 | wiking: I actually discussed that with you, sonney2k, HeikoS and iglesiasg somewhen in Oct | 20:35 |
| besser82 | wiking: and all said `You can doooooooooooooo it` | 20:35 |
| @wiking | mmm iwasntthere | 20:36 |
| @wiking | :) | 20:36 |
| besser82 | wiking: and keeping the headers seperated from sources is one thing to gain speed boost during compiling | 20:36 |
| besser82 | wiking: like many more stuff, e.g. not globbing a kazillion cpp-sources to one target ;) | 20:37 |
| besser82 | wiking: having a single target on each subdir gains another significant boost | 20:37 |
| sonne|osx | besser82: but in the end you link stuff together or? | 20:38 |
| besser82 | wiking: in the end all objects get into one "big" libshogun.{a,so} | 20:38 |
| @wiking | besser82: yeah i get that | 20:38 |
| @wiking | besser82: but why's that different? | 20:38 |
| @wiking | besser82: but none the less, we were anyhow planning some sorts of slicing up the big libshogun | 20:39 |
| @wiking | so this is a good first step | 20:39 |
| besser82 | wiking: that's some of those magic "cmake-internals" you only get from those $$$ cmake-trainings | 20:39 |
| besser82 | wiking: offered by kitware | 20:39 |
| @wiking | i just dont get it why is it different if i say that i want from ALL cpps 1 libshogun, instead of small little ones | 20:39 |
| @wiking | ah so it's some cmake magic | 20:40 |
| @wiking | or like 'feature' of cmake | 20:40 |
| besser82 | wiking: something like that: cmake has some internal bookkeeping of which stuff already got compiled | 20:40 |
| besser82 | wiking: and that slows things a lot with too much files | 20:41 |
| @wiking | besser82: and why there's a speedup from headers move out to some other place? | 20:41 |
| besser82 | wiking: that's some of those gcc-magic-internals | 20:41 |
| @wiking | besser82: or that's again some cmake feature? | 20:41 |
| @wiking | besser82: why does it matter for gcc where it reads the .h from? | 20:42 |
| besser82 | wiking: because gcc does some checks for overlapping, when reading the .h from the same dir the .c is in | 20:42 |
| @wiking | eh | 20:42 |
| besser82 | wiking: yes, gcc is really pedantic about such | 20:42 |
| besser82 | wiking: there was a guy doing a benchmark on this.... | 20:43 |
| besser82 | wiking: compiling some .c with gcc and including a thousand headers from the same dir | 20:44 |
| @wiking | besser82: is this some gcc stuff or true for clang as well? | 20:44 |
| besser82 | wiking: clang isn't affected | 20:44 |
| @wiking | besser82: then now we know why gcc was always so slower | 20:44 |
| besser82 | wiking: that's a gcc idiom | 20:44 |
| besser82 | wiking: yes | 20:45 |
| @wiking | as that was true on travis | 20:45 |
| @wiking | regardless of cmake or ./configure way | 20:45 |
| @wiking | gcc compilation was significantly slower | 20:45 |
| besser82 | wiking: the guy who did the benchmarks had some diff of ~400% | 20:45 |
| @wiking | well good that i dont use gcc :P | 20:46 |
| besser82 | wiking: use it's better that other compilers ;) | 20:46 |
| @wiking | besser82: some tools are only available in 4.9 | 20:46 |
| @wiking | :S | 20:46 |
| besser82 | wiking: just because 85% of upstream developers are on redhat's payroll ;) | 20:46 |
| besser82 | wiking: which tools? | 20:47 |
| @wiking | besser82: undef behaviour | 20:47 |
| @wiking | i've read it somewhere that it'll be in 4.9 | 20:47 |
| @wiking | but not before | 20:47 |
| @wiking | fsanitize=undefined | 20:47 |
| @wiking | that only works 4.9+ | 20:47 |
| besser82 | wiking: Am I glad I'm using Fedora(tm) ;-P | 20:49 |
| besser82 | wiking: F20 has 4.9.1 on board | 20:50 |
| besser82 | wiking: typo: it's 4.9.0 in RC | 20:52 |
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