| --- Log opened Wed Dec 25 00:00:21 2013 | ||
| shogun-buildbot | build #659 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/659 | 04:19 |
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| @sonney2k | besser82, merry x-mas to you too! | 07:42 |
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| Saurabh7 | hi , anybody around? | 07:59 |
| @sonney2k | Saurabh7, moin | 08:00 |
| Saurabh7 | sonney2k, hello ,so i was tinkering with some xval stuff and i found | 08:03 |
| Saurabh7 | shouldn't https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/examples/undocumented/libshogun/splitting_standard_crossvalidation.cpp#L77 | 08:03 |
| Saurabh7 | be get_label(subset.vector[j]) ?? | 08:04 |
| @sonney2k | Saurabh7, IMHO yes - but it is Heiko who wrote the code - so better ask him | 08:08 |
| Saurabh7 | ok sure, thanks! | 08:16 |
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| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, one question - when you call apply_structured - will it *always* generate a new label? | 12:11 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k, tell me more | 12:17 |
| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, well I thought you are the expert... | 13:03 |
| @sonney2k | I just need to know if apply_structured will create a new object (like all the other apply* methods) or not | 13:03 |
| @iglesiasg | sonney2k, yes, it will | 13:04 |
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| @sonney2k | iglesiasg, hmmh then I don't know | 13:18 |
| @sonney2k | only that the fgm notebook never worked reliably | 13:19 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 5c498fa / doc/ipython-notebooks/multiclass/KNN.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5c498fadbdfd0abecb77ad2b5d09f9753e1affca | 14:09 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: improve KNN notebook | 14:09 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/15958400 | 14:57 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #144 of clang34 - undefined behaviour analysis is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang34%20-%20undefined%20behaviour%20analysis/builds/144 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 15:09 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #142 of clang34 - thread analysis is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang34%20-%20thread%20analysis/builds/142 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 15:25 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #145 of debian wheezy - memcheck is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/debian%20wheezy%20-%20memcheck/builds/145 | 15:53 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #160 of clang34 - static analysis is complete: Failure [failed analyse] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang34%20-%20static%20analysis/builds/160 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 16:08 |
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| siddharth950 | anyone there? | 17:32 |
| siddharth950 | Hi, I'm Siddharth, I have some experience of coding in C++ and have some knowledge of mahine learning | 17:58 |
| siddharth950 | *machine | 17:58 |
| siddharth950 | I'm interested in contributing to Shogun's development | 17:59 |
| siddharth950 | can anyone guide me to do this best? | 17:59 |
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| @sonney2k | wiking, lisitsyn, besser82 do you know https://coveralls.io/ ? | 20:19 |
| @sonney2k | and besser82 how is my x-mas present doing ;) | 20:20 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 870ade1 / doc/ipython-notebooks/multiclass/KNN.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/870ade11e7ab6db28b27c12e5bb01943f367b1e3 | 21:54 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: add small comparison section to MC svms | 21:54 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: i've setup the thing for shogun (coveralls...) | 21:56 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: but doesn't really work i think | 21:56 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg :develop * 3d4688a / doc/ipython-notebooks/multiclass/naive_bayes.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3d4688a8fe45e5589402cd8d6bc6a28eb420f160 | 22:05 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: improve naive bayes tutorial | 22:05 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, maybe it needs https://github.com/eddyxu/cpp-coveralls | 22:10 |
| @sonney2k | I recall lisitsyn wanting to implement that for some time but ... | 22:11 |
| * sonney2k enjoys doing notebooks | 22:11 | |
| @wiking | sonney2k: did that | 22:11 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, you did? did we enable gcov when compiling them? | 22:11 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: i mean i really tried eveyrthing to setup coveralls.io for shogun like 6 months ago | 22:12 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: yes it was part of my cmake 'patch' | 22:12 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: plz give me some credit when i said i tried it ;P | 22:12 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: btW: merry xmas | 22:12 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, same to you | 22:12 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, well I have no idea what you do/did so apologies | 22:13 |
| @wiking | nw | 22:13 |
| @sonney2k | I think we need some kernels tutorial | 22:13 |
| @wiking | i'm just saying that i've tried but the stats | 22:13 |
| @sonney2k | and string kernels | 22:13 |
| @sonney2k | and mkl | 22:13 |
| @wiking | were not really working.. | 22:13 |
| @sonney2k | and performance measures | 22:13 |
| @sonney2k | doing this makes me feel like being back in the 60's | 22:14 |
| @sonney2k | :D | 22:14 |
| @wiking | notebook? | 22:14 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, btw about the whole license discussion | 22:15 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, yes | 22:15 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: mmm idont even know what's the current status | 22:15 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, I think we either stick with GPL or BSD | 22:15 |
| @sonney2k | all the rest is a waste | 22:15 |
| @sonney2k | my interest in switching to anything is rather limited | 22:15 |
| @wiking | 4 votes = 3 for lgpl 1 for bsd | 22:15 |
| @sonney2k | yeah but doesn't make sense | 22:16 |
| @wiking | so not many people voteD: P | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | either we want to team up with scikits people | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | and so need BSD | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | or stay as we are | 22:16 |
| @wiking | well imho we'll stay like this for at least 2 more releases | 22:16 |
| @sonney2k | I mean the only reason to switch licenses would be to somehow be the C++ backend of scikits | 22:17 |
| @wiking | as it'll take a long time regardless of license we will go with (if we change) | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | I mean seriously | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | everyone is using scikits for quick stuff | 22:17 |
| @wiking | mmm dunno if scikits ppl would be interested in that | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | when using python | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | if not then why change? | 22:17 |
| @wiking | as that's the good part of scikits | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | it is not getting us users | 22:17 |
| @wiking | fast implementation | 22:17 |
| @sonney2k | and who cares about M$ forking shogun? | 22:18 |
| @wiking | mmm it's more about | 22:18 |
| @sonney2k | I mean it usually is the training algorithm that is complex | 22:18 |
| @wiking | smaller entities using shogun | 22:18 |
| @sonney2k | all the rest is soo trivial | 22:18 |
| @sonney2k | so no need for more 'liberal' licenses | 22:18 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: as lisitsyn pointed out we could at least give a BSD-like inference interface | 22:18 |
| @sonney2k | yeah that makes the most sense I think | 22:19 |
| @wiking | yeah that requires horizontal slicing of the library | 22:19 |
| @sonney2k | it is tough still since it includes all kernels etc etc | 22:19 |
| @sonney2k | yeah and that | 22:19 |
| @wiking | but we would need a vertical one as well | 22:19 |
| @wiking | make it more modular | 22:19 |
| @sonney2k | but no one knows how | 22:20 |
| @sonney2k | IMHO we should go d-ptr's | 22:20 |
| @wiking | not as one big bundle | 22:20 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: yeah that's like step 1 | 22:20 |
| @sonney2k | and then maybe we see how a split could work | 22:20 |
| @wiking | we need to define how to do dptrs | 22:20 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, btw *I* cannot fix proto for 3.1 for osx | 22:20 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: no macbook air around? | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, and btw I have a new idea for meetings | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, just no time | 22:21 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: ah ok | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, IMHO we should do the meetings like this: | 22:21 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: for dptrs we should write a small howto | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, every monday evening from 20-24hrs we have our shogun evening | 22:22 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: and then core developers can start implementing that | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, so everyone who has time can attend | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | and we chat and code | 22:22 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: and maybe even starte a feature branch... | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | everyone tries to be there | 22:22 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: sounds reasonable | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | and if not well not | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | it is kind of what we call 'Stammtisch' :) | 22:22 |
| @sonney2k | in German | 22:22 |
| @wiking | we could implement that | 22:22 |
| @wiking | but not before 1st of jan | 22:23 |
| @wiking | or of course we can | 22:23 |
| @wiking | but i think the attendance might be low on the 30th | 22:23 |
| @wiking | so 6th would be the first one ... that's reasonable | 22:24 |
| @sonney2k | I mean I know people are overloaded / busy with other stuff but hey better a long stretched fun meeting than none | 22:24 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, and if we want to be in GSoC 2014 we have to start serious planning already now... | 22:25 |
| @sonney2k | so I will release 3.1 before end of vacations and then we can do other stuff | 22:25 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, btw what happened to your libarchive endeavour? | 22:26 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: i had quite a problem with libarchive supporting raw file | 22:28 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: but i do have the feature branch localhost | 22:29 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: btw for dptrs we would just need so set some very basic rules: file and class naming convention | 22:29 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: and create some macros supporting dptrs | 22:29 |
| @wiking | like the qt stuff: Q_DECLARE_PRIVATE and Q_DECLARE_PUBLIC | 22:31 |
| @wiking | and i think we could write about this a small page on github | 22:32 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #2106 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed test libshogun] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/2106 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 22:34 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, makes sense | 22:35 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, if you have time draft that thing - we should start that right after 3.1 ... and btw I don't expect new major releases after end of gsoc'14 :/ | 22:37 |
| @wiking | https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/Dpointers-in-Shogun | 22:37 |
| @wiking | there | 22:37 |
| @wiking | we should put there the main rules | 22:37 |
| @sonney2k | I mean only if we have just a few new features d-ptr's are heavily intrusive already bringing stuff into a non-releasable state | 22:38 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: mmm ok i'll try to scetch up something based on qt's ideas | 22:38 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, maybe you can try that on some small class to see if it works | 22:38 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: yeah will do on classes that i've implemented | 22:38 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, I personally would want to do notebooks for a while atm - I am really enjoying that part | 22:39 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: go ahead and have fun | 22:39 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: i'm trying to digest xmas food atm | 22:39 |
| @wiking | :P | 22:39 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: check those awesome social mining notebooks i've sent the other day | 22:42 |
| @wiking | sonney2k: if you could hack in there some shogun that would be amazing | 22:42 |
| lisitsyn | ho ho | 22:43 |
| @sonney2k | wiking, seen them but we far away from that still - we first need lots of pieces of the puzzle before we get there | 22:45 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/15968796 | 22:45 |
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| @sonney2k | and mr ho ho lisitsyn needs to contribute his stuff as notebooks too :D | 22:45 |
| lisitsyn | sounds like a great time to do that haha | 22:45 |
| lisitsyn | oh gosh will this stuff ever end | 22:46 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, you just wrote too much shogun code | 22:47 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, now you have to document it :P | 22:47 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: no I mean my current status | 22:47 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, all your fault ;) | 22:47 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: totally | 22:47 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, become the paid shogun e.V. secretary ;) | 22:48 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: 100 EUR/year? ;) | 22:48 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, exactly :P | 22:49 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I totally like your stammwhatever idea | 22:55 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: ah yeah and I like idea of visiting berlin once again though I'd like to visit other eu cities too :D | 23:01 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: do you want to visit that py conference? | 23:01 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, don't count on me for anything - I am no better time wise | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: probably even worse | 23:03 |
| @sonney2k | lisitsyn, I was hoping Heiko would give a talk at europython | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | I see | 23:03 |
| @sonney2k | and that we could have some workshop before or after | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: what about gsoc? | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I remember you said you will have much less time | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | mustn't be of the standard we set last year but still some talks or so and discussions | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | yeah Heiko has the notes | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | we had like 100 ideas ... | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | but we need some mentors / organizers | 23:04 |
| @sonney2k | so the thing runs even with me disappearing | 23:05 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I see - I'll try to reserve as much time as I can | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | IMHO heiko should be admin too | 23:05 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: why too? | 23:05 |
| @sonney2k | because he almost was one last year | 23:06 |
| @sonney2k | from what he did I mean | 23:06 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: too like who? | 23:06 |
| @sonney2k | what? | 23:06 |
| @sonney2k | you me heiko? | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: I mean he is kinda the only admin | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | ah | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | apart from you I am totally useless | 23:07 |
| @sonney2k | why that? | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | so its he who could handle that if he has time | 23:07 |
| @sonney2k | yeah - I would wish to just be a mentor | 23:08 |
| @sonney2k | shogun and teaching is what I would like to pursue... | 23:08 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: you should have been a professor ;) | 23:09 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #2107 of deb3 - modular_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/2107 | 23:09 |
| @sonney2k | bed time! | 23:09 |
| lisitsyn | no bed for me today :D | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | sonney2k: good night | 23:10 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #145 of clang34 - undefined behaviour analysis is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang34%20-%20undefined%20behaviour%20analysis/builds/145 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 23:23 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #143 of clang34 - thread analysis is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang34%20-%20thread%20analysis/builds/143 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org> | 23:40 |
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