IRC logs of #shogun for Wednesday, 2014-02-12

--- Log opened Wed Feb 12 00:00:55 2014
shogun-buildbot_build #60 of osx2 - python is complete: Failure [failed test python modular]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20python/builds/60  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>, Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>, Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, Parijat Mazumdar <mazumdarparijat@gmail.com>00:07
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shogun-buildbot_build #194 of debian wheezy - memcheck is complete: Failure [failed memory check]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/debian%20wheezy%20-%20memcheck/builds/194  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, Parijat Mazumdar <mazumdarparijat@gmail.com>01:12
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shogun-buildbot_build #455 of precise - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/455  blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>02:17
lambdaysonne|osx: sent the PR.. have a look02:22
lambdayHeikoS: hey man!02:22
lambdayHeikoS: the clone bug is creepier than I thought :(02:23
@HeikoSlambday: hey dude!02:23
@HeikoSlambday: appreciated that you work on it!02:23
@HeikoSyeah I thought that this one would be a hard one :)02:24
@HeikoSwhats the current state?02:24
lambdayHeikoS: will give it another try02:24
lambdayHeikoS: by the way, the uninitialized memory is due the the newly allocated one... not the original02:24
lambdayHeikoS: sonne|osx wanted SSK kernel to be included as it might be useful.. so sent a PR for that02:25
lambdaycurrently gave up on the bug after 3 days!02:25
@HeikoSlambday: newly allocated?02:26
@HeikoSbut why does valgrind complain then?02:26
@HeikoSif one overwrites uninitialised memory that doesnt cause an error02:26
@HeikoSlambday: wow, cool Ill check the SSK kernel, does it come with a unit test and an example? ;)02:26
@HeikoSlambday: I am currently writin gthe GSoC application02:27
lambdayHeikoS: yeah - two actually :D02:27
lambdayHeikoS: awesome! so you're doing three?02:27
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lambdayvalgrind complains because we check this newly allocated one twice - one in https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/src/shogun/base/Parameter.cpp#L3646 (casted2 is uninitialized cause SG_MALLOC creates it) and another time here https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/src/shogun/base/Parameter.cpp#L365602:29
shogun-buildbot_build #61 of osx2 - python is complete: Failure [failed test python modular]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20python/builds/61  blamelist: Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>02:30
@HeikoSlambday: see my comments :)02:33
@HeikoSlambday: yeah think so02:33
lambdayHeikoS: yeah just checked ;)02:34
lambdayHeikoS: regarding using SGMatrix inside compute, I talked to sonney cause I remember you suggesting this last time :P he suggested that we might keep it this way02:35
@HeikoSyeah I know since its work, but since we have tests now, its easy to change this without breaking things02:36
lambdayHeikoS: since its a 3d matrix, will SGMatrix make things touger?02:36
@HeikoSah I see02:36
@HeikoSlambday: yeah 3d matrix is not handled well02:36
@HeikoSbut the vectors are02:36
@HeikoSsorry I did not realise02:36
@HeikoSlambday: is the ideas list already up?02:36
lambdayHeikoS: checking02:37
lambdaynope02:37
lambdayHeikoS: will change the vectors :)02:38
@HeikoSlambday: thanks, and very nice work apart from that, I dont think many other kernels are tested that nicely ;)02:39
@HeikoSlambday: btw we could have a PSD check for all kernels automagically ;)02:39
@HeikoSmaybe an intro task or so02:39
@HeikoSlambday: I gotta go to bed, have to get up early and its already late......see you02:39
lambdayHeikoS: yeah that could be a nice one02:39
lambdayHeikoS: me too :P its 7 am already :D02:39
lambdayHeikoS: ciao man! gn02:40
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shogun-buildbot_build #195 of debian wheezy - memcheck is complete: Failure [failed memory check]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/debian%20wheezy%20-%20memcheck/builds/195  blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>, Roman Votyakov <votjakovr@gmail.com>03:42
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sonne|osxbesser82: please ping me once you are awake :D08:14
besser82sonne|osx:  ping!08:15
sonne|osxbesser82: wtf?08:15
sonne|osxthat early?08:15
besser82sonne|osx:  I'm usually that early  ;)08:15
sonne|osxbesser82: I cannot reproduce the python3 failures08:15
besser82sonne|osx:  Which failures?08:15
sonne|osxbesser82: I did install a debian sid chroot08:15
sonne|osxwith python 3.4 even08:15
sonne|osx3.3.4 I mean08:15
sonne|osxbut no failure no nothing08:16
besser82sonne|osx:  you're talking about the pickling of those SVM^shit classes, right?08:16
sonne|osxbesser82: the serialization error thing08:16
sonne|osxbesser82: seems to be more like string kernels and svm*08:16
sonne|osxbut the very same stuff just runs fine there08:16
besser82sonne|osx:  kk, we're talking about the same  :D08:16
sonne|osxbesser82: so you are the only one I know who could reproduce it08:16
besser82sonne|osx:  hehe, maybe because of redhat-based improvements  :-P08:17
sonne|osxbesser82:  do you still have this shogun version lying around?08:17
besser82sonne|osx:  from current check-out? yes08:17
sonne|osxbesser82: then could you just go to08:17
sonne|osxtests/integration/python_modular08:17
sonne|osxand run tester.py <failing thing>.py08:18
besser82sonne|osx:  sure08:18
besser82and then?08:18
sonne|osxtell me what you get :D08:18
sonne|osxbesser82: tester.py serialization_string_kernels_modular.py08:19
sonne|osxshould do it08:19
besser82sonne|osx:  http://ur1.ca/gm3wx08:19
sonne|osxbesser82: that is with ctest08:20
sonne|osxbesser82: I really meant the tester.py which is run underneath08:20
sonne|osxand might help us debugging a bit08:20
besser82sonne|osx:  kk, will do08:20
besser82sonne|osx:  will take ~15min because I need to adjust $env  ;)08:21
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sonne|workbesser82: and?08:37
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van51hey guys!09:52
sonne|workhey van51!09:52
sonne|workargh meeting09:52
sonne|workafk09:53
lisitsynhey van5109:53
lisitsynlong time no see :)09:53
van51lisitsyn: heh yeah09:54
van51lisitsyn: I was trying to balance my hours09:54
van51lisitsyn: but I'm back now :D09:54
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lisitsynvan51: same thing here but not yet back09:54
van51lisitsyn: ah so you're just here for the chat? :)09:58
van51lisitsyn: I remember you complaining about long work hours a couple of months back09:58
van51is that it?09:58
lisitsynvan51: I don't know10:01
lisitsyn:D10:02
lisitsynI am lost about it10:02
lisitsynI think it is better now :D10:02
van51lisitsyn: good to hear10:08
van51lisitsyn: hope it works out even more10:08
van51lisitsyn: and I also hope my schedule stays balanced :P10:09
sonne|workvan51: I can assure you that lisitsyn is as busy as ever10:29
sonne|workvan51: so how is life?10:30
sonne|workvan51: and will you ever find time to shogun again?10:30
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van51sonne|work: full of projects and presentations, but I'm not complaining10:31
van51sonne|work: how are you doing?10:31
van51sonne|work: yeap! I was thinking of finally doing that gender-recognition demo10:32
van51sonne|work: so I can catch up a bit as well with the changes10:32
sonne|worknothing changed work, kids and shogun are certainly keeping me busy10:32
sonne|workvan51: we have something new btw https://coveralls.io/r/shogun-toolbox/shogun10:33
sonne|workvan51: and http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/memcheck/20140212-0437.html10:34
sonne|worklisitsyn: which reminds me the MalsarClusteredTest is still failing10:34
van51sonne|work: ah looks cool10:34
sonne|workvan51: and python3 is finally tested and supported too10:35
van51sonne|work: I left and you got all productive :p10:36
sonne|workvan51: so now that you are back we can go on holidays :P10:37
van51sonne|work: sure go ahead :) I can keep everything running for about an hour or so ;)10:37
sonne|workvan51: it would also be nice if you could help working on some more demos... but hey do what you can / want.10:40
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van51sonne|work: sure I can work on those :)10:50
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shogun-buildbot_build #456 of precise - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/45612:01
shogun-buildbot_build #100 of deb4 - python3 is complete: Failure [failed test python modular]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb4%20-%20python3/builds/100  blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com>12:06
shogun-buildbot_build #101 of deb4 - python3 is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb4%20-%20python3/builds/10112:11
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lisitsynsonne|work: still???12:25
lisitsynwtf12:25
lisitsynsonne|work: I failed to reproduce it on my machine with the same command12:25
lisitsynargh okay I'll take a look tonight12:26
lisitsynI was pretty darn sure I fixed it :D12:26
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lisitsynHeikoS1: hey13:08
HeikoS1lisitsyn:  hi!13:09
lisitsynHeikoS1: how can I assist you with gsoc things?13:09
HeikoS1finalise the ideas list so that fernando can put it online tonight13:09
HeikoS1lisitsyn: I need that link for the application13:10
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HeikoS1lisitsyn: My project descriptions are all more or less finished, but what about the other ones, some were a bit rough13:10
HeikoS1also putting in mentor emails etc, bring tasks to a common format etc13:10
lisitsynHeikoS1: righto I am on it13:11
lisitsynHeikoS1: is EM out?13:11
besser82HeikoS1: You want to get cloud stuff going for GSoC, rye?!?13:12
HeikoS1lisitsyn: yes EM is out for now13:13
lisitsynbesser82: is your task still valid?13:13
lisitsynsvm bright13:13
lisitsynHeikoS1: haha your tasks are crazy!13:16
besser82lisitsyn: yes, sure!13:17
besser82lisitsyn: I'll do SVM^bright13:17
besser82lisitsyn: and possibly some build-sys reöated stuff13:17
besser82lisitsyn:  s!ö!l!13:18
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/1871927213:18
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lisitsynbesser82: we need descriptions ;)13:20
HeikoS1lisitsyn: why crazy? :)13:21
HeikoS1besser82: descriptiojns are ultra important to attract people13:21
HeikoS1they have to be challenging interesting and sexy at the same time ;)13:21
HeikoS1lisitsyn: I want to do proper ML ;)13:22
lisitsynHeikoS1: well yeah it is proper ;)13:25
lisitsynit is just us who are too lazy13:25
lisitsynHeikoS1: I can't keep up with such volumes13:26
lisitsyn:/13:26
HeikoS1I use synergetic effects, its also nice for me to do this stuff :)13:26
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besser82lisitsyn, HeikoS1: What description shall i use instead?!?13:27
HeikoS1besser82: what do you mean?13:27
besser82lisitsyn, HeikoS1: You said sth about description are important...13:28
lisitsynHeikoS1: I mean your tasks are like BIIIG and others are not ;(13:28
lisitsynwiking: ping13:28
lisitsynHeikoS1: what's the destiny of independent jobs framework?13:29
HeikoS1besser82: ah yeah, that was just general, not particular for yours13:29
HeikoS1lisitsyn: I dont know about that, we haven't really thought it through13:29
HeikoS1but still would be nice13:29
HeikoS1but yeah .....13:29
HeikoS1dont know13:29
HeikoS1I cannot write another description, already too much with the application13:29
HeikoS1but maybe write a few words on internal paralelism. provide a unified interface within shogun to do multi-core and multi-machine computatiuons13:30
lisitsynHeikoS1: no need to13:30
lisitsynI am polishing / adding text13:30
lisitsynsorry for runglish in advance :D13:30
HeikoS1lisitsyn: cool!13:31
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Soeren Sonnenburg's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/1871930813:36
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lisitsynHeikoS1: useful: experience with hamiltonian monte carlo14:10
lisitsynROFL14:10
lisitsynTYPICAL SKILL :D14:10
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HeikoS1lisitsyn: people learn that in statistics degrees you know15:03
lisitsynHeikoS1: you are one of the kind of smart guys who thinks everybody is smart ;)15:04
HeikoS1whether you have seen something does not depend on whether you are smart15:05
HeikoS1just on background15:05
HeikoS1lets see, lets hope for another lambday ;)15:05
HeikoS1that was a challenging project too15:05
lisitsynHeikoS1: I iterated over text once15:05
lisitsynmore to go15:06
HeikoS1lisitsyn: thanks15:06
HeikoS1just solved another exam question of my re-sit ;)15:06
lisitsynHeikoS1: still thinking what to do with long tasks15:06
lisitsynHeikoS1: we either fill up smallest ones or cut these15:06
lisitsynotherwise it looks like a bit unbalanced15:06
lisitsynHeikoS1: what exam q?15:07
lambdayHeikoS1: you're writing an exam right now as well :P15:07
HeikoS1i almost failed so i have to solve it again15:09
HeikoS1have to hand that in monday15:09
HeikoS1aaaah too many things going on15:09
HeikoS1going for lunch now, see you later15:09
lambdayHeikoS1: all the best man! see you15:10
lambdaylisitsyn: how many project ideas are there for this year?15:11
lambdaylisitsyn: you're mentoring?15:11
lisitsynlambday: yeah I proposed two so far15:14
lisitsynlambday: plugin architecture and model selection syntax15:14
lisitsynlambday: I see 13 of more or less completed ideas15:14
lambdaylisitsyn: cool! plugin architecture sounds great!15:15
sonne|worklisitsyn: you sure these are good for a gsoc project? I mean shouldn't students rather do the work you suggest than come up with sth completely now?15:15
sonne|worklisitsyn: or do you have plans already?15:15
lisitsynsonne|work: no I don't yet15:18
lisitsynsonne|work: I'll just remove if nothing is planned15:19
lambdaysonne|work: do you think we can include FOIL/kFOIL sort of things in Shogun (not gsoc wise - separate) ? I can work on it15:19
sonne|worklambday: woah! tough stuff15:20
lambdaysonne|work: I don't think any ML library has it15:21
sonne|workme neither15:21
lambdayso everyone has to work with the code provided by the author15:21
lambdaywhich is almost impossible to understand15:21
lambdaysonne|work: well, I will try to think of something if I can somehow manage to include this15:22
lambdaysonne|work: oh btw I am thinking of mentioning in the stack overflow question, mentioning that we have added ssk - so if later people search for it, they can find it easily15:25
lisitsynlambday: please do that!15:25
lisitsyngives proper publicity ;)15:25
lambdaylisitsyn: right on ;)15:25
sonne|worklambday: did you do that already? how much stackoverflow reputation do you have?15:27
sonne|worklambday: we need to get somebody to over 1500 so he can create a shogun tag15:27
lambdaysonne|work: crap! :D you do it! I am a newbie15:28
sonne|workI have just 15 but working on it ;)15:28
lambdaysonne|work: I am a 5..15:28
lambdaylisitsyn: you?15:28
lisitsyn0 here15:28
lisitsyn:D15:28
lambdaylol!15:28
lambdayanybody then? HeikoS1 wiking15:29
lisitsynI bet we have no one with 150015:29
lisitsynwe can ask scikit guys15:29
lisitsynthey recently did that15:29
lambdayscikit guys will post for us?15:30
sonne|worklisitsyn: I think we should really do all support through stackoverflow15:30
lisitsynsonne|work: agree totally15:30
sonne|workit is soo much easier also for others to find15:30
lambdayabsolutely15:30
lisitsynthough stackoverflow is a bad place for bugs15:30
lambdaylisitsyn: why so?15:30
sonne|worktrue they don't accept such questions15:31
lisitsynlambday: never seen it as a bugtracking thing15:31
sonne|workbug reporting -> github15:31
lisitsynyeah15:31
lisitsynthat's just15:31
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lisitsynhow do I classify images with shogun15:31
lisitsynand mighty sonne|work says do that and this15:31
sonne|worklisitsyn: what about your idea with the dictionary learning?15:32
sonne|worklisitsyn: that would be a good gsoc thing15:32
lisitsynsonne|work: I can write it down15:32
lisitsynsonne|work: if you think it is a good idea lets do it15:32
lisitsynI was unsure15:32
lambdaysonne|work: added free_feature_vector PR15:33
lambdaysonne|work: lisitsyn: should I answer the stack overflow guy then...? :-/15:35
sonne|worklambday: yeah just do it 10 more reputation doesn't help :D15:35
sonne|worklambday: I am not sure how things work with the free feature vector stuff btw15:36
lambdaysonne|work: umm... I am confused..15:36
sonne|workyeah me too15:37
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sonne|workthe other non sgvector function is certainly safe with preprocessors I am not sure about the sgvector one15:37
sonne|workarhg!15:37
sonne|workI accidentally committed sth to master15:37
* sonne|work sighs15:38
lambdaylol :D15:38
lambdaysonne|work: what is the boolean flag for? I mean, normally it does free the vector after compute, right? where does it not?15:40
lambdayHeikoS1: there?16:24
sonne|worklambday: hah no16:31
sonne|worklambday: the way it works is that we usually pass around just references16:32
sonne|worklambday: so no free at all16:32
sonne|worklambday: BUT16:32
sonne|workyou know we have these processors that you can attach on-the-fly16:32
sonne|workwhich will just change the vector / string16:32
lambdaysonne|work: okay...16:33
sonne|worklambday: I always wanted this to become more transparent in a way that the free method of the SGVector is jsut overriden so you no longer have to call the free_vector function16:33
lambdaysonne|work: yeah just checked  - if preprocessor_on_get is set then we don't free16:33
sonne|worklambday: I just didn't have the time16:34
sonne|worklambday: if you have feel free :D16:34
lambdaysonne|work: I will check how to do that then - I am not much familiar with this part of the code :)16:35
lambdaysonne|work: so the idea is extend SGVector and use that one for these cases instead of the base, with ovreridden free, right?16:36
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lambdayor may be set some flag in SGVector instead - which we can set in constructor16:40
lambdaywhen unset, it does its normal thing16:40
lambdayconditional_free or something :-/16:40
sonne|worklambday: exactly16:46
sonne|workno no16:46
sonne|workthere would be some overloaded SGVector with some free method overloaded16:47
sonne|workand that one is then used when a preprocessor returns sth extra16:47
lambdaysonne|work: okay.. alright16:50
lambdaysonne|work: currently changing it back to normal char* vectors then - when I do those changes I will change it in all the kernels16:50
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lambdaysonne|work: what was the valgrind flags for running a particular unit-test? --gtest-filter or something?16:55
lambdaywiking: ^16:56
lambdaygot it16:57
sonne|worklambday: exactly16:58
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thoralfHey.19:07
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@iglesiasghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/79a3a790053f3a7a4617d4d7a041f5ed/tumblr_n0lc15RpnN1rz1ki7o1_500.jpg19:27
@iglesiasgwhat did I just read??19:27
lambdayiglesiasg: lol :D19:27
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parijathello everyone!19:48
lisitsyn1iglesiasg: heah19:49
parijatiglesiasg: about KMeans notebook, you were talking about adding real data example, could you please explain?19:49
@iglesiasgparijat, using a well-known data set19:49
parijatiglesiasg: i mean is any such data already in shogun data?19:49
@iglesiasgparijat, have a look :)19:50
lisitsyn1thoralf: ha! +1 for akka19:50
thoralf:)19:50
parijatiglesiasg: OK! you meant benchmark kind of data19:50
@iglesiasgparijat, not necessarily to do a benchmark, but to use something closer to a real world application19:50
parijatiglesiasg: alright, I know for fact KMeans is mostly used in data mining but that wouldn't make a good example. I should probably look for some data with 2 D features which can be plot19:53
parijatiglesiasg: right?19:54
@iglesiasgparijat, I guess that it is not necessary :) If you know of a cool data mining example, go ahead19:55
@iglesiasgparijat, have you seen the other notebooks?19:55
@iglesiasgparijat, there is one about hashing which has some example using natural language processing, if I remember correctly19:56
parijatiglesiasg: yup I actually checked your LMNN notebook for reference.19:56
parijatiglesiasg: alright let me see.19:56
@iglesiasgparijat, http://shogun-toolbox.org/static/notebook/current/HashedDocDotFeatures.html19:57
@iglesiasgparijat, but this was just an example to tell you that dta sets don't need to be directly graphicable in 2D :)19:57
@iglesiasglike, it is not a requirement at all19:57
parijatiglesiasg: ya! but its a very good starting point. Thanks.19:58
@iglesiasgyou are welcome20:00
@iglesiasgguys, any reason why the cloud website is broken?20:02
@iglesiasgmaybe I am using the wrong link? http://cloud.shogun-toolbox.org/20:02
@sonney2kiglesiasg, no should be right but I have no idea how to get up we need wiking for that20:03
@iglesiasgsonney2k, all right20:03
@iglesiasglet's try to have it working for when the application deadline comes20:03
thoralfHey sonney2k20:04
@iglesiasgsonney2k, http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc201320:08
@iglesiasgsonney2k, I am wondering whether it makes more sense as the follow-up though mmmm20:08
@iglesiasgsonney2k, I have got an idea! Let me divide it into two parts, one that I will leave where it is now as the mentor summit of the 2011 page20:09
@iglesiasgsonney2k, and another one with the follow-up that I will put as in gsoc 2012 and 201120:09
@iglesiasglet me know anyway just in case please20:10
@iglesiasgsonney2k, all right, it is done now :)20:26
@iglesiasgsonney2k, http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2013 <--- mentor summit 201320:27
@iglesiasgsonney2k, http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2013_follow_up <---- follow-up 201320:27
@iglesiasgall right, I will join you later again and start with the ideas20:30
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@HeikoSlisitsyn20:36
@HeikoSaround?20:37
@HeikoSlisitsyn what will be the link of the ideas page?20:37
lisitsyn1HeikoS: hey20:56
lisitsyn1HeikoS: on the website?20:57
lisitsyn1I don't know20:57
@HeikoSok you just polished the text?20:57
@HeikoSthe page needs to be put online also asap20:57
lisitsyn1HeikoS: already submitting?20:57
@HeikoScurrently finishing the proposal20:57
@HeikoSyes failsafe submission :D20:58
lisitsyn1HeikoS: iglesiasg will be around soon20:58
lisitsyn1he is the website guy ;020:58
lisitsyn1;)20:58
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lisitsyn1HeikoS: okay I'll put it online21:00
lisitsyn1;)21:00
lisitsyn1just give me a few minutes21:01
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lisitsyn1HeikoS: for now I'll just dump the current version then modify21:06
@HeikoSlisitsyn1:  cool thanks!21:09
lisitsyn1OHMYGOD WHY OH WHY21:14
lisitsyn1how complex it is21:15
lisitsyn1HeikoS: http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2014_ideas21:15
lisitsyn1done21:15
lisitsyn1that's the more or less permanent link21:15
lisitsyn1feel free to use21:15
lisitsyn1I'll update it21:15
lisitsyn1once polish more21:15
@HeikoSok21:16
@HeikoSlisitsyn just 5?21:16
lisitsyn1HeikoS: 5 what?21:18
lisitsyn1HeikoS: oops sorry21:19
@HeikoSlisitsyn 5 projects?21:19
lisitsyn1I guess my buffer was too small to carry whole document21:19
lisitsyn1:D21:19
lisitsyn1HeikoS: nevermind I'll fix it21:19
lisitsyn1the link will stay21:19
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alcedineIs Shogun going to be participating in Google Summer of Code this year?21:22
alcedinePending approval, of course.21:22
@HeikoSalcedine: we plan to apply soon, so hopefully21:22
@HeikoSwe just set up our ideas page21:22
@HeikoShttp://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2014_ideas21:22
@HeikoSstill incomplete but growing21:23
@HeikoSlisitsyn1, ok I finished the application, could you proof read ?21:24
@HeikoSlisitsyn, lisitsyn1 around?21:28
lisitsyn1HeikoS: yes sure21:32
@HeikoSlisitsyn1: just shared application21:32
lisitsyn1HeikoS: I think Kevin finished Msc21:36
lisitsyn1should I just fix?21:36
@HeikoSlisitsyn just correct :)21:36
@HeikoSnot really important, more important is kind of logic errors21:36
@HeikoShaving a fake phd never hurts ;)21:36
@HeikoSok I need a short break, will be back soon21:36
lisitsyn1HeikoS: haven't met it yet21:36
@HeikoSlisitsyn1:  we should also blog about our experience with GSOC from student->mentor->admin21:37
lisitsyn1HeikoS: yeah lets sit and write something once you get time21:38
@HeikoSlisitsyn1 the kernel project is not on the page21:44
@HeikoSlisitsyn also gsoc 2014 should be before workshop 201321:45
lisitsyn1HeikoS: for some reason it cuts my document :D21:47
lisitsyn1HeikoS: other things are done21:47
lisitsyn1stupid editor21:47
lisitsyn1el stupido grande editore!1121:51
lisitsyn1HeikoS: http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/Events/gsoc2014_ideas it is ugly but all the described tasks are here21:54
lisitsyn1more to come later21:54
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@iglesiasglisitsyn, HeikoS, hey guys!22:09
@iglesiasgI just checked the logs22:09
lisitsyn1iglesiasg: hey22:09
@iglesiasgare you still modifying stuff in the website?22:09
lisitsyn1iglesiasg: no I am done ;)22:10
@iglesiasglisitsyn1, all right! Then I will start trying to make it look like previous years!22:10
lisitsyn1iglesiasg: hmm I am afraid we need to polish them in google doc first22:10
lisitsyn1iglesiasg: do you see any way to make it more automatic22:11
lisitsyn1?22:11
@iglesiasglisitsyn1, mmm not really22:11
lisitsyn1iglesiasg: lets then polish things first :)22:11
lisitsyn1and then copy and then make it stylish22:11
lisitsyn1iirc we have some more time yet22:11
lisitsyn1I mean nobody is going to see that before deadline :D22:12
@HeikoSiglesiasg:  sorry gotta go now, will be back later today, pls proof read as I will submit the first verison today22:14
@HeikoSsonney2k: pls give me admin rights to submit  :)22:14
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@iglesiasglisitsyn1, yeah sure22:17
@iglesiasglisitsyn1, I mean deadline is the 14th, right?22:17
lisitsyn1iglesiasg: yeah23:10
@iglesiasgI am going to write the dummy "we are planning to apply..." so the page gsoc 2014 is not empy23:11
@iglesiasglisitsyn1, what are the ideas you see furthest from being ready?23:25
@iglesiasglisitsyn1, in any case, I see that around 7 ideas are pretty much ready, or at least have enough content23:41
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