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@HeikoS | lambday: hi! | 00:00 |
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@HeikoS | how are things? | 00:00 |
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@HeikoS | lambday_ hi! how are things? | 00:01 |
lambday_ | HeikoS: things are good ... saw the ideas list | 00:01 |
@HeikoS | lambday_: like things? | 00:01 |
lambday_ | HeikoS: absolutely.. many many things actually :D | 00:01 |
lambday_ | HeikoS: I am thinking to give the kernel project a shot | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | lambday_: that will be a nice one | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | more ML than coding I guess | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | and experiments/examples | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | Dino, the other mentor is a postdoc in my lab | 00:02 |
@HeikoS | so it will be intense | 00:02 |
lambday_ | HeikoS: nice :) | 00:02 |
lambday_ | HeikoS: in next few weeks will brush/pick up concepts... | 00:03 |
@HeikoS | there is loads of stuff already in shogun | 00:03 |
@HeikoS | depending on the student, we might even do a bit more bleeding edge research .... | 00:04 |
@HeikoS | depnding on context | 00:04 |
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@HeikoS | the mcmc one might also be nice, and I guess the variational learning one is the most hardcore ML project | 00:04 |
lambday_ | mcmc is not there in the list :-/ | 00:04 |
lambday_ | oh did you update later? | 00:04 |
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lambday | HeikoS: I was checking out the notebook you have | 00:06 |
@HeikoS | lambday: must be | 00:06 |
@HeikoS | wait | 00:06 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: could you add the mcmc description to the ideas list? | 00:07 |
@HeikoS | lambday: should be there soon | 00:08 |
@HeikoS | I can send you an email with the proposal state | 00:08 |
@HeikoS | lambday: email sent | 00:09 |
lambday | HeikoS: alright... | 00:09 |
lambday | HeikoS: thanks :) | 00:09 |
@HeikoS | that also an interesting one | 00:09 |
@HeikoS | but kernels are also | 00:09 |
@HeikoS | all of mine are ultra cool obviously ;D | 00:09 |
@HeikoS | lambday: how are things apart from that? | 00:09 |
lambday | lol I am back to square one then :P | 00:09 |
lambday | HeikoS: umm.. things are good.. I thought of adding FOIL/kFOIL stuff to shogun - so today was thinking a bit about that as well... its aligned with my thesis.. | 00:10 |
@HeikoS | whats that? | 00:10 |
lambday | first order inductive learning stuffs - | 00:11 |
lambday | FOL | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | lambday: I see, wow thats old school stuff | 00:11 |
@HeikoS | lambday: how is the bug hunt going? | 00:11 |
lambday | HeikoS: yeah but recently there has been a new field of interest on that area | 00:12 |
@HeikoS | lambday: and still interested in the multitask notebook? :) | 00:12 |
@HeikoS | lambday: cool, any relevant papers? | 00:12 |
shogun-buildbot | build #62 of osx2 - python is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20python/builds/62 | 00:12 |
lambday | HeikoS: well, bug - didn't try after that :( | 00:12 |
@sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build --branch=develop 'deb4 - python3' | 00:12 |
shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 9m18s] | 00:12 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 00:12 |
@sonney2k | shogun-buildbot, force build --branch=develop 'debian wheezy - memcheck' | 00:13 |
shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 00:13 |
lambday | HeikoS: well, there is one which is used for propositional logic stuff - I am trying to extend that idea to first order | 00:13 |
@sonney2k | HeikoS, no but it doesn't matter | 00:13 |
lambday | it uses LP relaxation | 00:13 |
@sonney2k | HeikoS, proposal was already excellent | 00:13 |
lambday | HeikoS: I thought lisitsyn was onto the notebook | 00:14 |
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@HeikoS | lambday: yeah true, but didnt I also ask you about a notebook? | 00:15 |
@HeikoS | nothing happened really so far :) | 00:15 |
@HeikoS | LP relaxation is also used in probabilistic ML to solve MRF problems | 00:15 |
@HeikoS | technical stuff | 00:15 |
@HeikoS | sonney2k: gunnars comments might be nice to have | 00:15 |
lambday | HeikoS: check this one - http://jmlr.org/proceedings/papers/v28/malioutov13.pdf | 00:16 |
lambday | HeikoS: umm... since lisitsyn said he was going to do it - I didn't explore much.. I will see if possible I will add :) | 00:17 |
lambday | HeikoS: another notebook needs to be made on string kernels - gotta start that one too | 00:17 |
shogun-buildbot | build #108 of deb4 - python3 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb4%20-%20python3/builds/108 | 00:17 |
shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 1h02m02s] | 00:17 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 00:17 |
@HeikoS | lambday: yeah :) | 00:18 |
@HeikoS | string kernels and svms and stuff | 00:18 |
@HeikoS | lambday: ok I gotta go to bed now, see you tomorrow or so | 00:18 |
lambday | HeikoS: alright man! I am checking out the mcmc project - | 00:18 |
lambday | ciao... | 00:18 |
@HeikoS | lambday: yeah that might be cool and infinitely extensible :) | 00:18 |
@HeikoS | bye | 00:18 |
lambday | HeikoS: bye :) | 00:19 |
shogun-buildbot | build #63 of osx2 - python is complete: Failure [failed python modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20python/builds/63 blamelist: Soeren Sonnenburg <sonne@debian.org>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 00:25 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #202 of debian wheezy - memcheck is complete: Failure [failed memory check] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/debian%20wheezy%20-%20memcheck/builds/202 | 02:09 |
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shogun-notifier- | shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 3fcb4a5 / / (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3fcb4a5af91436e3776491dcea9ddbb5fdba2d61 | 08:16 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix issue #1869 | 08:16 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Add coveralls badge to README.md | 08:16 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: remove coverage stats of examples, tests, benchmark, cmake | 08:16 |
shogun-buildbot | build #2683 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2683 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 08:17 |
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sonne|osx | wiking: you broke the build ... | 08:25 |
sonne|osx | wiking: looks like you accidentally submitted src/shogun/classifier/vw/VwRegressor.cpp/h | 08:25 |
wiking | :) | 08:29 |
wiking | no i did not | 08:29 |
wiking | i just haven't tested :)))) | 08:29 |
sonne|osx | wiking: errm...!?! | 08:29 |
wiking | there's a fix | 08:29 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * ab49c7a / src/shogun/classifier/vw/VwRegressor.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ab49c7a4c900a7c63bbda9fe2c8c117b1ed9bbb8 | 08:29 |
wiking | do not worry | 08:29 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fix erronous function call introduced in the previous commit | 08:29 |
sonne|osx | wiking: we want to do a release .... | 08:30 |
wiking | i know | 08:30 |
wiking | i'm trying to help | 08:30 |
wiking | this should fix like 4 memleaks ... | 08:30 |
wiking | namely all these issues #1848 #1847 #1846 #1845 | 08:30 |
sonne|osx | wiking: we need a test for that reflecting it... | 08:31 |
sonne|osx | wiking: all the other memory leaks seem to be serialization related http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/memcheck/20140213-2319.html | 08:31 |
wiking | sonne|osx: well the serialization fws are all good tests for it :) | 08:32 |
wiking | that are currently leaking :) | 08:32 |
sonne|osx | there is one united memory read in serialization ascii | 08:32 |
sonne|osx | but that is due to a bug in libc | 08:32 |
sonne|osx | fscanf will get it in strod | 08:32 |
sonne|osx | when and 'inf' | 08:32 |
sonne|osx | or 'nan' occurs | 08:33 |
wiking | btw hopefully coverage will get above 80% with this removal of some sources | 08:33 |
wiking | ehhe | 08:33 |
wiking | that's shit :) | 08:33 |
sonne|osx | well I think we are again in much better shape than we were previously | 08:33 |
sonne|osx | so we should just release | 08:33 |
wiking | is this really a bug | 08:33 |
sonne|osx | the one thing I would like to fix somehow | 08:34 |
wiking | or it's never going to be fixed? | 08:34 |
sonne|osx | is the python3 thing | 08:34 |
sonne|osx | wiking: we should try the same on debian sid | 08:34 |
wiking | same what? | 08:34 |
wiking | python3? | 08:34 |
wiking | or libc? :) | 08:34 |
sonne|osx | same valgrind analysis | 08:34 |
sonne|osx | yes libc | 08:34 |
wiking | ah | 08:34 |
wiking | i see | 08:34 |
wiking | i can run it once :) | 08:34 |
sonne|osx | python3 I did already | 08:34 |
sonne|osx | can finally reproduce it | 08:34 |
sonne|osx | serialization of *any* object fails | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | on python 3.3.4 | 08:35 |
wiking | lol | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | but works on wheezy | 08:35 |
wiking | bug or features? | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | in 3.2 | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | well any object | 08:35 |
wiking | but 3.2 is none stable branch | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | means any shogun object | 08:35 |
shogun-buildbot | build #2684 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2684 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 08:35 |
wiking | 3.3 supposed to be stable of python3 | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | no | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | 3.3 fails too | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | so it doesn't help | 08:35 |
sonne|osx | even sth like CTime cannot be serialized | 08:36 |
sonne|osx | but calling the functions manulally works perfect | 08:36 |
sonne|osx | even then | 08:36 |
sonne|osx | so no idea what pickle does there | 08:36 |
sonne|osx | alright | 08:36 |
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sonne|osx | ^ wiking another failure?! | 08:36 |
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wiking | yeah see it | 08:36 |
wiking | double free | 08:37 |
wiking | yeeey | 08:37 |
sonne|work | expected so - we really have to convert the stuff to use refcounted sgvector. | 09:16 |
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sonne|work | wiking: can you fix it timely or should we just revert things for now | 10:42 |
sonne|work | lisitsyn1: seen this? http://mloss.org/software/view/538/ ? | 10:55 |
lisitsyn1 | sonne|work: yes | 10:56 |
lisitsyn1 | a while ago | 10:56 |
lisitsyn1 | I mean it was available before | 10:56 |
sonne|work | http://mloss.org/software/view/539/ | 10:59 |
sonne|work | lisitsyn1: for NN I would just not want to reimplement/the wheel | 11:01 |
sonne|work | we should like for svms | 11:01 |
sonne|work | just interface | 11:01 |
besser82 | sonne|work: Sry, I've been ill the last 2 days; had a std::coldWithFever | 11:23 |
besser82 | sonne|work: Shall I still try that sniplet?!? | 11:23 |
sonne|work | besser82: yes! | 11:23 |
sonne|work | besser82: sry to hear! | 11:24 |
sonne|work | besser82: I am not sure why I am OK atm, lack of sleep etc should'v killed me | 11:24 |
besser82 | sonne|work: not so nice either :( | 11:25 |
besser82 | sonne|work: Can't pickle <class 'Time'>: attribute lookup imp.Time failed | 11:25 |
sonne|work | besser82: hah | 11:25 |
sonne|work | so there we have it | 11:25 |
besser82 | sonne|work: ??? | 11:25 |
sonne|work | one cannot pickle *anythin* | 11:25 |
sonne|work | g | 11:25 |
sonne|work | weird that it works with python3.2 here | 11:26 |
sonne|work | something must have changed | 11:26 |
sonne|work | in python | 11:26 |
sonne|work | maybe the way they treat external C classes when (un)pickling | 11:27 |
lisitsyn1 | sonne|work: NN is neural networks? | 11:27 |
sonne|work | yes | 11:29 |
sonne|work | sure | 11:29 |
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sonne|work | lisitsyn1: maybe we could have a way how to store layers weights / structure of the framework in shogun | 11:30 |
sonne|work | lisitsyn1: then we pass this to any NN-IMPL | 11:30 |
sonne|work | and fill results back in | 11:30 |
sonne|work | lisitsyn1: but maybe the best approach would be to start with some NN library | 11:31 |
lisitsyn1 | sonne|work: yeah | 11:31 |
sonne|work | because otherwise we won't learn how it works | 11:31 |
sonne|work | it is kind of the way we did it with SVMs | 11:32 |
lisitsyn1 | sonne|work: yes we just need to get our hands dirty | 11:32 |
sonne|work | yeah | 11:32 |
lisitsyn1 | I'll just try to design it and see what I get | 11:32 |
sonne|work | these things are too complex to do on our own so it is good I think if we just outsource complexity | 11:32 |
lisitsyn1 | sonne|work: worst thing I know about NNs is that there are a lot of things like | 11:33 |
lisitsyn1 | normalize this and normalize that | 11:33 |
lisitsyn1 | and subtract mean or whatever | 11:33 |
sonne|work | yeah there are a lot of tricks | 11:34 |
lisitsyn1 | much more than in svms | 11:34 |
sonne|work | but any algorithm has some | 11:34 |
lisitsyn1 | this sucks pretty much | 11:34 |
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wiking | re | 12:23 |
wiking | fixin' fixin' | 12:24 |
wiking | sonne|work: ping | 12:32 |
sonne|work | wiking: yes? | 13:30 |
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shogun-notifier- | shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 19ff58e / src/shogun/classifier/vw/VwRegressor.cpp,src/shogun/classifier/vw/VwRegressor.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/19ff58ec4c0acc86b995bc75f6b323ca466af256 | 13:42 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Revert previous try for fixing #1869 | 13:42 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #2685 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2685 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 13:46 |
wiking | wtf? | 13:47 |
wiking | should have neeever tried to fix this early in the morning | 13:48 |
wiking | i think i never had such a bad fix try before in shogun | 13:48 |
wiking | :( | 13:48 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Viktor Gal :develop * 40d583a / src/shogun/classifier/vw/VwRegressor.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/40d583a19988daf7435062fe3814fb25c88db456 | 13:50 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: change back release_weight_vectors to SG_FREE | 13:50 |
shogun-buildbot | build #2686 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2686 | 13:52 |
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sonne|work | wiking: well revert it and do it in a quiet minute | 14:16 |
sonne|work | wiking: and run the test locally or let travis do it | 14:16 |
wiking | sonne|work: it's done now | 14:28 |
wiking | sonne|work: coverage dropped significantly | 14:28 |
wiking | :< | 14:28 |
wiking | since now all the 100% unit tests and examples are out :P | 14:28 |
sonne|work | 50%? | 14:29 |
wiking | 70.88 | 14:29 |
sonne|work | quite good still | 14:29 |
wiking | https://coveralls.io/builds/519012 | 14:29 |
sonne|work | I would have expected a lot less | 14:29 |
wiking | this we need to investigate a bit | 14:29 |
wiking | i have a feeling that the changed tab is fluctating | 14:29 |
wiking | since some of the covarage depends on rand() | 14:30 |
wiking | lisitsyn1: here? | 14:31 |
lisitsyn1 | wiking: yeaj | 14:34 |
sonne|work | wiking: we should just seed all tests | 14:36 |
sonne|work | then it should go ways | 14:36 |
sonne|work | wiking: I don't understand what the changed 101 means and source changed 7 etc | 14:36 |
wiking | sonne|work: changed in coverage | 14:49 |
sonne|work | for? | 14:49 |
sonne|work | between what? | 14:49 |
wiking | sonne|work: n-1 coverage results | 14:50 |
wiking | i guess | 14:50 |
sonne|work | so we have 101 files changing coverage? | 14:50 |
wiking | yes apparently | 14:51 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #203 of debian wheezy - memcheck is complete: Failure [failed memory check] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/debian%20wheezy%20-%20memcheck/builds/203 blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com> | 16:34 |
sonne|work | besser82: seen that ubuntu switches to systemd? So I guess the days of other init systems are over... | 16:35 |
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sonne|osx | iglesiasg: could you please get the ideas page in shape | 17:17 |
sonne|osx | iglesiasg: it looks pretty messy still | 17:17 |
@iglesiasg | sonne|osx, ok | 17:17 |
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@iglesiasg | all right guys, please don't modify the gsoc 2014 page for a little while, I will be doing do it | 17:43 |
@iglesiasg | fucking hell... | 18:06 |
@iglesiasg | I have the admin editor | 18:07 |
@iglesiasg | for some reason, I lost the changes I had saved and seen updated in the website | 18:07 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: hey | 18:07 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: what's you are working on? | 18:08 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, the website | 18:08 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, sonney2k, did you guys by any chance had the admin interface open? | 18:08 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: moving ideas from gdocs to website? | 18:08 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: I didn't | 18:08 |
@iglesiasg | I don't understand why it happened then... | 18:08 |
@iglesiasg | I guess I will work on another editor to have locally a saved copy | 18:08 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: I mean | 18:08 |
lisitsyn | we need to polish it a bit | 18:09 |
lisitsyn | how do we handle that? | 18:09 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, yeah, it is a pain | 18:09 |
@iglesiasg | I was just planning to move for the moment the ones that were complete | 18:10 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: oh I see okay | 18:10 |
lisitsyn | thanks | 18:10 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, so basically | 18:11 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, deep learning, variational learning, fundamental ML, MCMC, output kernel learning, and variable interactions look pretty ready to me | 18:13 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: alright | 18:13 |
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lisitsyn | agree | 18:13 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, do you think any other is ready too? | 18:13 |
lisitsyn | no not really | 18:13 |
lisitsyn | :D | 18:13 |
lisitsyn | mine are not it seems | 18:13 |
lisitsyn | I'll update some of them tonight | 18:13 |
@iglesiasg | well deep learning is yours too :) | 18:14 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: I hope not! | 18:14 |
lisitsyn | :D | 18:14 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, why not? Aren't you co-mentoring that one? | 18:15 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: I mean I hope I'll just help with software part ;) | 18:15 |
@iglesiasg | at the end of the day, GSoC is just developing software | 18:16 |
@iglesiasg | so just the software part is just about 100% of the product :P | 18:16 |
lisitsyn | hah true | 18:17 |
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@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, do you recommend me any fancy html editor? | 18:26 |
@iglesiasg | if you know of any | 18:26 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: hmm not sure I am following that | 18:26 |
lisitsyn | iglesiasg: isn't vim/sublime/whatever enough? | 18:26 |
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@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, I wanted something fancy that would highlight tags and stuff like that | 18:27 |
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@iglesiasg | you know like the matching tag, maybe the text of the current element when I am editing and so on | 18:28 |
@iglesiasg | I will try with sublime, just for fun | 18:29 |
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lisitsyn | iglesiasg: please let me know about your experience ;) | 18:37 |
@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, it seems that it helps me to get the job done, and it looks indeed beautiful :) | 18:37 |
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pratheekms | hello.. are any devs online.? | 18:53 |
pratheekms | I intend to apply for GSOC14 | 18:53 |
pratheekms | ?? | 18:56 |
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@iglesiasg | lisitsyn, ^ wtf | 19:04 |
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lisitsyn | HeikoS: hey | 22:12 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: hey big boy! | 22:12 |
@HeikoS | how are things? | 22:12 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: haha why big boy | 22:12 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: pretty ok what about you? | 22:12 |
@HeikoS | just for fun | 22:12 |
@HeikoS | yeah things are ok here | 22:12 |
@HeikoS | investigating some bugs | 22:12 |
@HeikoS | and just realisaed I dont have shogun compiled in debug | 22:12 |
@HeikoS | which means now I have to wait for 15 miniutes :) | 22:13 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: I am still struggling to finish ideas descriptions :D | 22:13 |
@HeikoS | yeah | 22:14 |
@HeikoS | gogogogo | 22:14 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: what email do you want to be published there | 22:18 |
@HeikoS | did I write email? | 22:18 |
@HeikoS | what about website | 22:18 |
@HeikoS | but yeah | 22:18 |
@HeikoS | heiko.strathmann@gmail.com | 22:18 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: the list on the website is cutr | 22:21 |
@HeikoS | some things are only in the summary in the beginning | 22:21 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: could you add this caffe thing to the deep learning one. like "Investiage the possibilities of interfacing external toolboxes such as caffee (website) " | 22:22 |
@HeikoS | in context of learning feature representations or so | 22:23 |
@HeikoS | also has GPU | 22:23 |
@HeikoS | so that might also be interesting | 22:23 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: alright | 22:28 |
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thoralf | Ho. | 23:20 |
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wiking | mmmmm | 23:59 |
wiking | back! | 23:59 |
wiking | can i edit? | 23:59 |
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