IRC logs of #shogun for Wednesday, 2014-03-26

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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2153699000:29
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thoralfHeikoS: Still awake?00:36
@HeikoSthoralf: just :)00:36
thoralfHeikoS: Have a question about your parameter framework ;)00:36
thoralfHeikoS: Why did you decide to create SG_ADD as a macro and not as a method of SGObject?00:37
@HeikoSthoralf: there was a reason00:37
@HeikoSbut I forgot ;)00:37
@HeikoSany objections?00:37
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@HeikoSwe in fact introduced that back in 201100:38
@HeikoSbefore, that wasnt there00:38
thoralfHeikoS: Objection is simple: Cannot we checked with static code analysis easily.00:38
@HeikoSthoralf: I see00:38
@HeikoSmmmh00:39
@HeikoSlet me think a second00:39
thoralfYou'll get a whole night ;)00:39
@HeikoSthoralf: maybe sonney2k remembers00:41
@HeikoSthoralf: it was because of the model selection parameters00:41
@HeikoSah yeah00:41
@HeikoSthoralf: I remember00:41
@HeikoSthoralf: so registering parameters might register them twice once as normal and once as model-selection00:42
@HeikoSso these are two method calls00:42
thoralfHeikoS: Okay, and what's the problem doing these method calls inside another function?00:44
@HeikoSthoralf: have a look at Parameter.cpp00:46
@HeikoSall those functions would have to be mapped otherwise00:47
@HeikoSfor all types00:47
@HeikoSso thats like 50 new methods, rather than one new macro00:47
thoralfOh.00:47
@HeikoSI think we were just lazy00:47
thoralfOH!00:47
thoralfAAAH!00:47
thoralf;)00:47
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Sergey Lisitsyn's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2153743001:21
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Sergey Lisitsyn's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2153794302:01
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2154314902:39
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kprahwiking: you there?07:02
kprahlisitsyn: hey, a small doubt. Can you help me out here?07:03
kprahsonne|work: ping07:06
@wikingkprah: i do not understand. i told you several times that the best thing to communicate is via mailing list or issue07:07
@wikingbecause of the time difference07:07
@wikingwe are not always here looking what's happening on IRC07:07
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lisitsynwiking: hah07:12
@wikinglisitsyn: ?07:14
lisitsynwiking: your last messages :)07:20
@wikinglisitsyn: true no?07:21
lisitsynwiking: sure, just find it funny :)07:21
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kprahwiking: ok. I have sent it on the mailing list. Please check later when you are free.07:40
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kislaylisitsyn1, hey, there's something wrong here http://shogun-toolbox.org/page/documentation/notebook10:25
kislaylisitsyn1, if you are free, check it!!10:26
lisitsyn1kislay: you mean these big letters/10:26
lisitsyn1?10:26
kislaylisitsyn1, yup10:27
lisitsyn1I have no idea how it works to be honest10:32
lisitsyn1lets wait for someone more responsible :D10:32
kislaylisitsyn1, okay. By the way, you remember that book suggested by Heiko...10:32
lisitsyn1gpml?10:32
kislaylisitsyn1, my neck is on the occam's razor :D10:33
kislaylisitsyn1, yes, that one.10:33
lisitsyn1what's with it?10:33
lisitsyn1:)10:33
kislaylisitsyn1, nah. Just working out with it. :)10:34
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sonne|workkislay: it simply doesn't follow the template10:41
lisitsyn1my bad then10:42
sonne|workkislay: just look at the sections the template uses and then the big letters are gone :)10:42
sonne|worklisitsyn1: do we have neural networks now or why is this already live?10:42
kislaysonne|work, err.. how to do that? I have no idea!!10:43
lisitsyn1sonne|work: yeah we have10:43
lisitsyn1sonne|work: one guy just did it :D10:44
sonne|workkislay: well one has to follow the template http://nbviewer.ipython.org/urls/raw.githubusercontent.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/develop/doc/ipython-notebooks/template.ipynb?create=110:44
sonne|workthen the abstract will be rendered on the website10:45
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sonne|worklisitsyn1: heh10:45
kislaysonne|work, oh!! damn. Then that's my mistake. Got it!!10:45
sonne|worklisitsyn1: so we can start collecting NN toolboxes under this framework10:45
sonne|workkislay: just have a look at https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/tree/develop/doc/ipython-notebooks10:46
sonne|workthe template.ipynb10:46
lisitsyn1sonne|work: yeah some kind of10:46
sonne|worklisitsyn1: btw did every mentor assign potentially accepted students yet?10:46
kislaysonne|work, yup. I have seen it. It just came a bit late :)10:46
lisitsyn1sonne|work: I dont' think so10:46
sonne|workif not somebody should push them :)10:46
lisitsyn1yeah10:47
lisitsyn1sonne|work: nobody10:47
lisitsyn1:D10:47
lisitsyn1okay I'll assign some10:47
sonne|worklisitsyn1: we need to have a slot estimate...10:48
sonne|workI guess somewhere between 8-10?10:48
lisitsyn1sonne|work: my estimate is still around 6-710:48
sonne|worklisitsyn1: we need to have some session with @team about this were we come up with very concrete suggestions like in previous years10:50
sonne|workso basically the gdoc is filled in with names10:51
sonne|workand candidates that we are unsure of can still get a chance if we tell them our concerns?10:51
lisitsyn1sure10:51
kislaythis neural network notebook was not there when I revised all the abstracts. I think it's author can correct it.10:55
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lisitsyn1Heiko Galaxy S313:27
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nikolisgalHello guys I got one question is method overloading the way to go on that issue https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/1889    ????16:07
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dhruv13jwiking: hey! do you have a minute?17:41
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@wikingdhruv13j: what'sup17:52
dhruv13jwiking: having a little trouble with cmake...17:52
dhruv13jwiking: but i just got something to work17:52
dhruv13jwiking: I'll test this and get back17:53
@wikingok17:54
dhruv13jwiking: cool! I got the thing to download from source... Only that cmake probably doesn't support sha1 check, so I generated the md5 on my machine and pasted it there...17:57
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pranetany recommended OS for shogun? facing problems in ubuntu 12.0419:57
pranet after installing from cmake the normal way its compiling but running the init file gives seg fault what to do20:01
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