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| thoralf | Heyho. | 00:24 |
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| thoralf | vvu|Log: Hey! How is you python_modular going? Did you solve the LD_LIBRARY_PROBLEM? | 00:25 |
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| thoralf | Hey. | 11:18 |
| kislay | thoralf, hi :) | 11:21 |
| thoralf | kislay: Good morning! | 11:21 |
| thoralf | Different time zone I guess. ;) | 11:21 |
| kislay | thoralf, good afternoon from here :D | 11:21 |
| thoralf | Yeah. :D | 11:22 |
| kislay | thoralf, you belong from Europe, aren't you? | 11:23 |
| thoralf | Yes, Germany. | 11:24 |
| thoralf | UTC+2 | 11:24 |
| thoralf | (summer time since last sunday, rest of the year UTC+1) | 11:24 |
| kislay | thoralf, never knew that even time zones are this complicated :) | 11:25 |
| thoralf | kislay: How is your project going? | 11:26 |
| kislay | thoralf, I am working on few issues. | 11:28 |
| thoralf | Any problems there? | 11:28 |
| kislay | thoralf, I have done quite a bit of documentation part, for eg: a ipython notebook and django demo stuff. But I want to dive in some C++ code. Any pointers please? | 11:29 |
| kislay | thoralf, how should I start? | 11:29 |
| thoralf | kislay: I guess it's best to look into one of the examples (libshogun/undocumented directory)... there are many, so you can choose which part of shogun you want to understand. | 11:30 |
| thoralf | First you should understand SG_REF/SG_UNREF, because we have this magic thing which cleans references automatically. | 11:32 |
| thoralf | Turn on debugging and watch out for "SGRefObject created/destroyed" messages. | 11:32 |
| kislay | thoralf, in the examples you mean.. | 11:33 |
| thoralf | While executing one of the examples, yes. | 11:33 |
| thoralf | So you see when objects are destroyed and created. This is a bit tricky -- it will save you some pain understanding it first. ;) | 11:34 |
| kislay | thoralf, got it. | 11:34 |
| kislay | thoralf, Do you think a taking up a issue will speed up things? | 11:34 |
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| thoralf | What also helps is to setup an own project directory, where you can create your own test-c++ programs. Though changing the examples in shogun would also be possible, it will require you to always recompile more stuff. | 11:37 |
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| thoralf | This is annoying because waiting 2 minutes after fixing a simple issue is not acceptable. ;) | 11:37 |
| thoralf | kislay: Let me check if there are issues related to this. | 11:38 |
| kislay | thoralf, yup . Thanks for the info. It will be a good headstart :) | 11:38 |
| thoralf | kislay: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/2054 <-- An issue I created. It's more about documentation, but also involves what I said: Setting up a separate project outside shogun sources. | 11:41 |
| kislay | thoralf, yeahh :) | 11:42 |
| thoralf | kislay: Who are you on github? | 11:45 |
| kislay | thoralf, kislay is kislayabhi on github :D | 11:46 |
| kislay | thoralf, okay. I went through the details you provided there on the issue tracker. | 11:48 |
| thoralf | kislay: I see two open pull requests. What's missing to close them? | 11:48 |
| kislay | thoralf, Is one related to some PCA notebook. I think it got polluted. | 11:49 |
| thoralf | Okay, can you close the polluted one? So we have only have active PRs on the TODO list. | 11:51 |
| kislay | thoralf, sorry. I did it just now. | 11:52 |
| thoralf | No worries. :) | 11:52 |
| kislay | thoralf, which other one are you seeing? | 11:52 |
| thoralf | Just some housekeeping. ;) | 11:53 |
| thoralf | https://github.com/kislayabhi <-- click "period: 1 month" next to on "contribution activity", then you should see your recent PRs. | 11:53 |
| kislay | thoralf, any specific example that you want me to work on related issue. | 11:54 |
| thoralf | Talking abbout #2054? | 11:54 |
| kislay | thoralf, yup. | 11:55 |
| thoralf | The binary example is totally fine. | 11:57 |
| thoralf | If it's too easy, we can pimp it afterwards. ;) | 11:57 |
| thoralf | Or do you have other examples in mind? What's your interest? | 11:58 |
| kislay | thoralf, hehe, PCA for sure!! | 11:58 |
| thoralf | You can even do something with GPs or PCA. | 11:58 |
| kislay | thoralf, First I need to get a hang of the issue! | 11:59 |
| thoralf | The thing is, that this one should explain how to solve one more-less common problem with shogun. It wouldn't make sense to have many hundred lines of code, because this should end up in an example. | 11:59 |
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| thoralf | sorry, not example. tutorial | 12:00 |
| kislay | thoralf, yup. correct me if my understanding is wrong: You want a tutorial for new users to deal with different ways a shogun method/class can be used. | 12:02 |
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| thoralf | kislay: Yes. Imagine a new user asks: "I have a C++ program and I want to use shogun to train a whatever-classifier on own data?" | 12:05 |
| thoralf | Or PCA or or or ;) | 12:05 |
| kislay | thoralf, then that user is in trouble!! | 12:06 |
| thoralf | lol | 12:06 |
| kislay | thoralf, I must help them. | 12:06 |
| thoralf | In which case ;) | 12:06 |
| kislay | kislay, hmm.. I am getting the gist of your point! | 12:08 |
| thoralf | kislay: Talking to yourself? ;) | 12:08 |
| kislay | thoralf, haha :D | 12:08 |
| kislay | thoralf, As a new user, I need to ask myself a lot. This helps a great deal to produce lucid code!! | 12:09 |
| thoralf | Yes. | 12:10 |
| thoralf | Just something "how would a shogun developer do this", so you have something clean to start from. | 12:10 |
| thoralf | And then dive into the details *after* having compiled something. | 12:11 |
| thoralf | Not debugging weeks until you get something compiled. :) | 12:11 |
| thoralf | kislay: My suggestion for the tutorial would be github MD files. Then we can convert them to html and include it on the website quite easy. | 12:12 |
| kislay | thoralf, got it. Er.. which compilation you are talking about? | 12:15 |
| thoralf | Well, assume that the user already compiled shogun and installed it somewhere. | 12:15 |
| thoralf | Let's say the headers are in /home/user/shogun/includes while the library is in /home/user/shogun/lib/libshogun.so.16.1 | 12:17 |
| kislay | thoralf: so, the user needs to use them | 12:23 |
| thoralf | I don't understand? | 12:23 |
| kislay | thoralf, sorry again. What you meant by this "And then dive into the details *after* having compiled something." | 12:25 |
| thoralf | I meant, it's easier for the user to dive into the details if he has something running. | 12:26 |
| kislay | kislay, okay okay. | 12:26 |
| kislay | thoralf, okay | 12:26 |
| kislay | got ir | 12:26 |
| kislay | it* | 12:26 |
| kislay | thoralf, Now I have a clear picture. :) | 12:28 |
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| thoralf | kislay: Cool. | 12:29 |
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| thoralf | Hello. | 19:18 |
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