IRC logs of #shogun for Monday, 2014-04-07

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shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Abhijeet :master * 168aba9 / demos/regression/gp.py,settings.py,templates/regression/gaussian_process.html: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/168aba98be472d16a96bc0c972c48dfb045bff9b01:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: added a button for ML2 in gp demo.01:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Abhijeet :master * a4b9d04 / demos/regression/gp.desc,demos/regression/gp.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/a4b9d0403c569f8dadea973d8ac206a28a2a25f601:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: added description for the ml2 button in GP demo.01:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Abhijeet :master * 820aeee / settings.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/820aeee061deb3f1cdbf34dd94a8d775c16c9a4601:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: set the PRODUCTION back to True in settings.py01:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Heiko Strathmann :master * 24be52f / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/24be52f1755c8d90e976ead6f849a12046de20f801:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Merge pull request #35 from kislayabhi/master01:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo:01:32
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: added a button for ML2 in gp demo. issue #208501:32
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shogun-notifier-shogun: ahcorde :develop * 1fbc713 / doc/ipython-notebooks/computer_vision/ (2 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/1fbc713ceaca1d719b45314aaba701f82d67bc0601:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: IPython notebook - sudoku recognizer with opencv01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: ahcorde :develop * 871a884 / doc/ipython-notebooks/computer_vision/Sudoku_recognizer.ipynb: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/871a8843c9e0dbed91bbe5d20202d57872c2f92201:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: Ipython notebook - Sudoku recognizer01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: - Using template01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: - Add credits01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: - Shogun, Opencv and wikipedia references01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: - Show all segmented numbers in a grid01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 04e51f3 / doc/ipython-notebooks/computer_vision/ (2 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/04e51f3f3c83a19b8760dceb1727ce7357f5047201:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2101 from ahcorde/sudoku_ipythonNotebook01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun:01:55
shogun-notifier-shogun: IPython notebook - sudoku recognizer with opencv01:55
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ChristopherHi, I have some issues building Shogun with Python Modular on Mac OSX 10.7.5. Should I just paste the error message ?11:07
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HeikoS1lisitsyn: around?12:48
lisitsynHeikoS1: yeah12:48
HeikoS1slot stuff is done yeah?12:49
lisitsynyes yes12:49
HeikoS1just double checking here12:49
HeikoS1ok12:49
HeikoS1thanks12:49
lisitsynHeikoS1: you asked me to tell you when my blog is up12:49
HeikoS1just going through my calendar and updating things12:49
lisitsynit is ;)12:49
HeikoS1nice12:49
HeikoS1link=?12:49
lisitsynhttp://sergey.lisitsyn.me/12:49
lisitsynHeikoS1: you can check it here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/profile/edit/google/gsoc2014/shogun12:50
lisitsynclick preferences12:50
lisitsynand you will see slots ;)12:50
@wikingHeikoS1: boooo12:51
HeikoS1wiking: ?12:51
HeikoS1lisitsyn: nice layout!12:51
@wikingHeikoS1: no merge when u r have sleep ;)12:51
HeikoS1haha, wiking is it the notebook?12:51
HeikoS1or the demos?12:52
@wikingHeikoS1: notebook12:52
HeikoS1wiking: the opencv one?12:52
HeikoS1wiking: ah yeah, mmmh12:52
HeikoS1wiking: did you happen to find any time on the preview thing? Its quite painful to review notebooks12:53
@wikingHeikoS1: why? i mean gist is just as good as it gets12:53
@wikingHeikoS1: yeah the opencv one... you've just merged a jpg in the src repo ;P12:53
@wikingand as well a notebook that has all it's output cells filled out12:53
HeikoS1wiking: argh, yeah soory about that12:54
HeikoS1wiking: told the guy not to do and did not double checlk12:54
@wikingthat's why actually you couldn't comment decently in the PR the notebook line-by-line12:54
HeikoS1wiking: it would be cool to have this preview of the patch + the notebook with all outputs12:54
@wikingHeikoS1: yeah i've written that as well seems that slipped12:54
HeikoS1so that one doesnt have to check these things in code12:54
HeikoS1wiking: well sorry about the merge .... you are right, half asleep ;)12:55
Christophercould someone comment on my problem? :)12:55
@wikingHeikoS1: well it gets wrose... as we need a way to be able to keep up with the dependencies of a notebook12:55
@wikingHeikoS1: since now this notebook requires opencv12:55
HeikoS1wiking: the opencv stuff?12:55
@wikingand this will just start blowing up one by one12:56
HeikoS1wiking: yeah, but that would be solved if we had this preview hook thing or wouldnt it?12:56
@wikingno12:56
@wikingwhy?12:56
@wikingwill that magically install opencv?12:56
HeikoS1wiking: no but it will fail to produce the output if no opencv is there12:56
@wikingChristopher: i reckon you've ended up having a similar bug like this one: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/192512:57
@wikingHeikoS1: actually in this very case that wouldn't be the case ;)12:57
@wikingHeikoS1: as this one has it's output alredy filled in.. so you wouldn't able to tell when was that generated12:57
HeikoS1wiking: thats why I mentioned this two things:12:57
HeikoS1wiking: if a notebook PR is sent12:57
HeikoS1wiking: buildbot produces two things:12:58
HeikoS1wiking: runs the notebook produces all outputs and renders12:58
HeikoS1wiking: and another one where just the notebook is rendered12:58
HeikoS1so that one can see whats actually in there and how it will look12:58
HeikoS1then gives two links12:58
@wikingHeikoS1: renders?12:58
@wikingwhat do you mean by renders?12:59
@wikingnbviewer renders it for you....12:59
@wikingi dont see any reason why we would need to run our own renderer...12:59
HeikoS1wiking: whatevewr12:59
HeikoS1wiking: that was not my point12:59
HeikoS1but that we have two versions13:00
HeikoS1one with and one without output13:00
HeikoS1just to remove the need to read the NB sourcecode13:00
Christopherit fails at the same point13:00
Christopherthe error is different though13:00
HeikoS1Christopher: sorry, what is the problem ?13:01
HeikoS1Christopher: ah mac13:02
ChristopherI', trying to build shogun with python modular on mac osx 10.7.513:02
HeikoS1Christopher: I am no help with this, sorry, never used a mac13:02
kislayHeikoS1, hey13:04
HeikoS1kislay: heja!13:04
kislayHeikoS1, did you check that demo. Is is working fine?13:05
HeikoS1kislay: not yet, but about to13:05
kislaylisitsyn, hey, awesome blog man!! :D13:07
lisitsynkislay: thanks13:07
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * f7408a0 / doc/ipython-notebooks/computer_vision/ (2 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/f7408a07d86819b0ab37be07ab5574c56cabdcd513:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: Revert "Merge pull request #2101 from ahcorde/sudoku_ipythonNotebook"13:11
shogun-notifier-shogun:13:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: This reverts commit 04e51f3f3c83a19b8760dceb1727ce7357f50472, reversing13:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: changes made to 11c25d37eaa73a4b0a9210a6d70da4685cf3bc40.13:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 6dffad0 / doc/ipython-notebooks/computer_vision/ (2 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/6dffad0dd3e6669f48c3a3a3e056fbd42a56d0ea13:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2108 from karlnapf/develop13:11
shogun-notifier-shogun:13:11
shogun-notifier-shogun: Revert "Merge pull request #2101 from ahcorde/sudoku_ipythonNotebook"13:11
lisitsynwow13:11
lisitsynwhat's the issue with reverting notebook HeikoS1?13:11
HeikoS1lisitsyn: contains output and a jpg13:11
HeikoS1needs to be resent clean13:11
lisitsynhah13:11
@wikingChristopher: i reckon the best option is to add there your error output13:13
@wikingi mean to that issue13:13
HeikoS1wiking: you saw the revert?13:26
sonne|workHeikoS1: the revert is not useful...13:31
Christopherok, thanks!13:32
sonne|workHeikoS1: it will be in git history now anyway...13:32
HeikoS1sonne|work: ah, so what to do? I am sorry for the mess...13:32
sonne|worktoo late :) just let him move the data to data now and we live with that .jpg in the history.13:33
HeikoS1sonne|work: ah the pain .... ;)13:34
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pfm_what is meant by the cardinality of a variable in a clique?16:39
pfm_is this the number of possible values it can take?16:39
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@iglesiasghey guys20:30
pickle27hey dude!20:37
pickle27I remembered to be here for once!20:37
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thoralfHey.20:40
vvu|Logthoralf: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1002812120:40
vvu|Loghere is the thingies for my modshogun not found20:40
vvu|Logthe error that i got a few days ago if u remember20:41
thoralfvvu|Log: Still your python problem?20:41
vvu|Logyep20:41
vvu|Logit seems that i do not have $LD_LIBRAY_PATH set up20:41
thoralfTry start "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/ python"20:41
thoralfOr "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/ python ./foo/yourscript.py"20:42
thoralfvvu|Log: But if it's not set-up, then you should already know what the problem is... ;)20:42
vvu|Logthoralf: same thingie even if i set it up, should i point it to shogun-install dir ?20:43
thoralfvvu|Log: Doesn't make a difference.20:44
pfm_someone shoudl implement loopy belief propagation20:45
pfm_so i can use it20:45
thoralfYou should do two things: 1. use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to define the location of libshogun and 2. tell python where to find modshogun.20:45
thoralfpfm_: Sure? ;)20:45
pfm_awesome, thanks :p20:45
thoralfpfm_: If you're not doing it, find someone who either does it for money or has enough spare time to do it. ;)20:47
thoralf(Shouldn't be too hard to implement though.)20:47
pfm_thoralf: i will look into doing it myself20:49
thoralfvvu|Log: Did you check the python section of https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/doc/md/INSTALL.md ?20:51
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kislaythoralf, hi :)21:31
thoralfkislay: Hey!  The first guy who manages to say hi before asking something. ;)21:32
kislaythoralf, haha :D21:32
thoralfkislay: You won a free question. :)21:32
kislaythoralf, Just wanted to share what I did till now on that issue #205421:33
thoralfkislay: Cool, tell me what you got.21:34
kislaythoralf, as a new user is working with his code , he suddenly realizes that he needs to train some data.21:34
kislayso I have assumed/created a small( but pragmatic) liver disorder libsvm dataset21:35
thoralfkislay: Cool, good example.21:36
kislaythoralf, then there's the separate file which reads line by line from that data file and fill the labels and features respectively21:36
thoralfkislay: Is it based on real data?  Where does the data come from?21:36
thoralfkislay: Is it possible to use some of the built-in readers of shogun?21:37
kislayhmmm. I got lots of them from http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~cjlin/libsvmtools/datasets/21:37
kislaythoralf, till now I was using std::get_line!!21:38
thoralfkislay: shogun has got a libsvm reader ;)21:38
kislaythoralf, damn!21:38
thoralfkislay: Don't tell that you spent time on writing your own.21:39
thoralfI'm so sorry.21:39
kislaythoralf, don't worry. :D21:40
kislaythoralf, but one thing for sure.. shogun really want lot of intuition from the user side.21:41
thoralfkislay: Yeah, that's why we need a tutorial.21:42
thoralfJust a show explanation how to do things so his intuition gets trained...21:43
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thoralfHey sonney2k21:43
thoralfHey sonne|osx21:43
kislaythoralf, yup.21:44
thoralfkislay: How did you learn shogun?21:45
kislaythoralf, me!!, I played with notebooks a lot.21:45
kislaythoralf, pytohn's always easy.21:45
* thoralf did the painful c++ way. :D21:46
kislaythoralf, :D21:46
kislaythoralf, I understand that pain better now :D21:46
kislaythoralf, btw thanks for that info on SGREF/SGUNREF  calls. It took some time, but I finally managed to learn some thumb rules regarding them.21:48
thoralfkislay: Okay, the rules are: If someone gives you a reference, do a SG_REF at the beginning of your use and SG_UNREF as soon as you don't need the object any more.21:49
thoralfkislay: If you're just creating an object to pass it into some function, then you may omit the SG_REF/UNREF, but don't use the object on your own, because it can be freed any time.21:50
thoralfkislay: If you want to be sure your object stays, make an initial SG_REF and don't forget the SG_UNREF.21:51
thoralfDoes this match your rules of thumb?21:51
kislaythoralf, I see. Mine were pretty vague as compared to yours.21:52
kislaythoralf, hey man, thanks a lot for pointing all them out. :)21:54
thoralfkislay: In doubt you can use either (a) valgrind to check your program for leaks/double frees or (b) print the reference counts with printf("...", object->ref_count())...21:55
kislaythoralf, I mostly worked with the rule 2 of yours.( it was there in the 2nd example in the developer tuto)21:56
kislaythoralf, yeah. I used the GCDEBUG mode to see those creation/destroyed messages of the SgRefObjects.22:01
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thoralfkislay: That's cool as well22:04
kislaythoralf, I may be slow to update things regarding the issue since my end semester exams are approaching. Will it be okay?22:07
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thoralfkislay: Of course.22:07
thoralfkislay: Let's just assume you're voluntarily. ;)22:08
thoralfdoing it voluntarily22:08
kislaythoralf, yeah. :)22:09
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