IRC logs of #shogun for Thursday, 2014-06-12

--- Log opened Thu Jun 12 00:00:29 2014
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shogun-notifier-shogun: abinashpanda :develop * 4e8a23d / / (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4e8a23dde94b8d76712c574f2f862a08bdebac8700:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: added CMultilabelModel::init_primal_opt() method to facilitate learing using00:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: PrimalMosekSOSVM solver; modified so_multilabel.cpp to compare all the three00:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: solvers00:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: tklein23 :develop * 84451ae / / (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/84451aec4ab0c006dc8a4bbb54d5f35c522084c400:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2290 from abinashpanda/develop00:08
shogun-notifier-shogun:00:08
shogun-notifier-shogun: CMultilabelModel::init_primal_opt() for SO learning PrimalMosekSOSVM00:08
shogun-buildbotbuild #2345 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2345  blamelist: abinashpanda <abinash.panda.ece10@itbhu.ac.in>00:14
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shogun-buildbotbuild #2346 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2346  blamelist: tklein23 <tklein23@users.noreply.github.com>00:18
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 9fe487b / src/shogun/machine/gp/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9fe487b710550def5c3001c558d1821ed132fa5001:12
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shogun-notifier-shogun: minor fix01:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: Wu Lin :develop * 4b35809 / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/4b35809bfc34d0365326233434f32e521dd0b66601:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: add the matrix operations class01:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: Wu Lin :develop * beee895 / / (3 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/beee895cdbb4cd256aaf4551d8a8a77b6024919501:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: the first KL method01:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 2d375f1 / / (10 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2d375f194c96af5fd3551afa4423fa0fac677cb301:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2295 from yorkerlin/fullDiagonalKLMethod01:12
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Full diagonal kl method (the first KL method)01:12
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shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Saurabh :master * 94bac4c / / (8 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/94bac4c1fc35d680fcf2718df9db329ead25221a01:19
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: regression and dataset01:19
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Saurabh :master * 1ecfd02 / demos/regression/regression.py: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/1ecfd02ea3397f98d59ff061a12a79c7d067f3fe01:19
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: minor fix01:19
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Heiko Strathmann :master * 12c1d74 / / (8 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun-demo/commit/12c1d7495fb019a98ac04bc2973eb91a6ffdb86701:19
shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Merge pull request #36 from Saurabh7/regres01:19
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shogun-notifier-shogun-demo: Regression models + dataset01:19
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shogun-buildbotbuild #2347 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2347  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com>02:52
shogun-buildbotbuild #25 of nightly_fedora is complete: Failure [failed git]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_fedora/builds/25  blamelist: lambday <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com>, Parijat Mazumdar <mazumdarparijat@gmail.com>, abinashpanda <abinash.panda.ece10@itbhu.ac.in>, Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com>, tklein2303:00
shogun-buildbot<tklein23@users.noreply.github.com>, Soumyajit De <heavensdevil6909@gmail.com>, Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>03:00
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's tklein23's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2735509803:28
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's tklein23's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2735509803:57
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's tklein23's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2735509804:36
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Parijat Mazumdar :develop * be11731 / / (6 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/be11731d3407db3897423abbe05f8876376884cb11:01
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2297 from mazumdarparijat/rf11:01
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shogun-buildbotbuild #2348 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2348  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, Parijat Mazumdar <mazumdarparijat@gmail.com>11:11
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travis-ci[travis-ci] it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/2738626711:25
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shogun-buildbotbuild #344 of debian wheezy - memcheck is complete: Failure [failed memory check]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/debian%20wheezy%20-%20memcheck/builds/344  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, Parijat Mazumdar <mazumdarparijat@gmail.com>18:41
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kislayhey khalednasr19:06
khalednasrkislay, hey19:06
kislaycheck this out19:06
kislayhttps://github.com/kislayabhi/docs/blob/master/OpenCV%20NN%20vs%20Shogun%20NN.md19:06
kislayI have updated it19:06
kislayits better than earlier now.19:06
kislaykhalednasr, do you think it's fair now?19:07
khalednasrkislay, seems like it19:09
khalednasrkislay, why 1e-8 for epsilon? did you try larger values?19:09
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kislayyeah19:10
kislayOpenCV's better when the epsilon is near 0.000119:11
kislaybut as we get more less..19:11
kislaywe get an edge.19:11
kislaywhat is the general value that an epsilon should assume btw!19:11
khalednasrkislay, maybe we can try disabling epsilon completely, and just train both networks for 1000 iterations or so19:12
khalednasrkislay, the default is 1e-519:12
kislaylets try on that too..19:14
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khalednasrkislay, what do you mean by an edge?19:15
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kislaythe training time of ours gets better as we decrease the value of the epsilon over OPencv's19:16
khalednasrkislay, I see. let me know what happens when you set epsilon to 019:18
kislayopencv takes 2.3 secs with accuracy of 68.8%19:19
kislayours take 0.39 secs with acc of 81%19:19
kislay^^^19:20
kislayfor epsilon=019:20
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khalednasrkislay, can you try increasing the number of iterations? so that opencv's acc can improve a little19:20
kislayyeah19:21
kislaylemme try19:21
kislayI don't get it... I have increased the number of iter. from 1000 to 1000. Now OpenCV takes 23 secs but still gives an accuracy of 68.8%19:23
kislaykhalednasr, 1000 to *10000..19:23
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khalednasrkislay, that's weird..19:27
khalednasrkislay, I suspect that opencv might be doing stochastic gradient descent instead of batch gradient descent. can you try setting gd_mini_batch_size = 1 in shogun?19:30
kislaylet me..19:30
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kislayhey khalednasr , I just tried for iter. = 100, epsl=0 for opencv... It gives an acc of 82%19:40
kislayAre you sure, setting epsilon =0 for opencv is same as that of ours.19:40
kislaybecause these are not consistent results.19:40
khalednasrI'm not sure. Their doc. doesn't give the details19:43
kislayyeah.19:44
kislayDoc is not that good. I don't even find any mention of setting the mini batch size?19:45
khalednasrYeah. The only thing mentioned is that rprop uses full batch training19:48
kislayyup19:48
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khalednasrkislay, for openv, the respones should be in the range -1 to 1 when you're using sigmoid neurons, not 0 to 119:56
kislayI use a tuple, since they don't have multiclass labels facility over there..so having a tuple like [-0.8,-0.5,0.1,0.3] suggests that its the last one winning right?]19:59
kislaykhalednasr, I am just using the max. one as the result .19:59
kislaykhalednasr, so..it won't effect whether its 0-1 ot -1 to 1..20:00
kislaywhat say?20:00
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khalednasrkislay, yeah I see, but the binary labels that you're giving them is in the 0-1 range, right?20:02
kislayah! yes20:03
kislayokay20:04
kislaygot your point20:04
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kislayhey khalednasr , I changed it. Nothing changed though. every result as before.20:17
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kislayhey iglesiasg :)20:20
@iglesiasghi kislay20:20
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kislayiglesiasg,  Some insights in KNN over here.. https://github.com/kislayabhi/docs/blob/master/OpenCV%20KNN%20vs%20Shogun%20KNN.md20:22
@iglesiasgkislay, tell me20:22
kislayiglesiasg, I am getting a poor accuracy for KNN for some reason.20:23
@iglesiasgkislay, is it what you call efficiency at the end of the doc20:23
kislayah..yeah thats accuracy actually..20:24
@iglesiasgkislay, is it using the exact same train and test data in OpenCV and Shogun?20:25
@iglesiasgI understand it does20:25
kislayyeah. Thats the point.20:25
@iglesiasgfunny, indeed20:26
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kislayAnd yeah iglesiasg , Did you checked that issue. I have to go for a workaround here also.20:26
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@iglesiasgkislay, no, I didn't check it20:27
@iglesiasgkislay, you can use multiclass accuracy btw20:28
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kislayiglesiasg, I see it.20:30
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@iglesiasgI found this quite funny actually20:31
@iglesiasgwell, find hehe20:31
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kislayI did wrong something?20:31
khalednasrkislay, I think it would be better to stop trying to use the same training parameters for both opencv and shogun, and instead choose the parameters that maximize the accuracy for each implementation independently20:33
kislaykhalednasr, yeah. We can do that. So that means comparison over accuracy than speed, right?20:34
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khalednasrkislay, not necessarily. we can also compare the time required to reach the same accuracy for each implementation20:38
kislaySeems good20:39
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thoralfHeyho.21:59
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