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| shogun-buildbot | build #734 of nightly_all is complete: Failure [failed compile test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_all/builds/734 blamelist: jiaolong <jiaolongxu@gmail.com>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, tklein23 <tklein23@users.noreply.github.com>, Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Saurabh | 03:05 |
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| shogun-buildbot | <saurabh.mahindre@gmail.com>, Abhijeet <abhijeetkislay@gmail.com>, khalednasr <k.nasr92@gmail.com> | 03:05 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #838 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/838 blamelist: jiaolong <jiaolongxu@gmail.com>, Sergey Lisitsyn <lisitsyn.s.o@gmail.com>, tklein23 <tklein23@users.noreply.github.com>, Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Saurabh | 07:19 |
| shogun-buildbot | <saurabh.mahindre@gmail.com>, Abhijeet <abhijeetkislay@gmail.com>, khalednasr <k.nasr92@gmail.com> | 07:19 |
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| lambday | wiking: there? | 09:27 |
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| wiking | lambday: now yes | 10:44 |
| lambday | wiking: for feature selection stuff that I am working on... I need to add get_num_features() in the CFeatures itself... so I currently planned to put this as virtual int32_t get_num_features() const; which in the base class returns 0.. | 10:45 |
| lambday | wiking: what I wanted to ask.. is that does num_features make sense for LatentFeatures? | 10:45 |
| lambday | wiking: or should it just work with base class method and we say that feature selection is not possible with this! | 10:46 |
| wiking | lambday: mmmm | 10:51 |
| wiking | CFeatures should never have get_num_features | 10:52 |
| wiking | sorry but that's a bad approach | 10:52 |
| wiking | could you try again that part | 10:52 |
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| lambday | wiking: yeah but if we want feature selection stuffs to work with generic CFeatures class, then that's not possible unless we have that get_num_features() thing | 10:53 |
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| lambday | HeikoS2: hi! | 13:49 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: hi there! | 13:49 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: I bumped into an issue regarding get_num_features() | 13:50 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: currently teaching, but let me know whats up! | 13:50 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: which is? | 13:50 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: this get_num_features() is needed for feature selection stuffs.. but that's only available for a few implementations of CFeatures | 13:50 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: so when working with the base CFeatures, we cannot have that | 13:51 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: ah really? | 13:51 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: which are the classes for thich it is available | 13:51 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: I explained the issue in a mail... sonney2k suggested that get_num_features() is not in the base for the best reason | 13:51 |
| HeikoS2 | is it for string features? | 13:51 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: string, dense, sparse, streaming dense, streaming sparse, hashed doc etc | 13:52 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: wiking also suggested the same thing.. it might not be the best idea to put get_num_features() in the base | 13:52 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: we can always check if the provided features supports this.. via get_feature_type() and then typecasting | 13:53 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: ok I see | 13:53 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: ok that seems reasonable | 13:53 |
| HeikoS2 | mmmh | 13:53 |
| HeikoS2 | supports_features or something | 13:53 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: umm... that's confusing, no? | 13:54 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: anyway.. ttyl when you're free :) | 13:56 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: yeah sorry, i am very open to suggestions, so let me know your thoughts | 13:58 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: does it make sense to put those features that supports num_features under another subclass of CFeatures, then feature selection works with that class instead | 13:59 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: otherwise with typecasting the whole thing sounds horrible! | 13:59 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: yeah that would be a good idea | 14:00 |
| lambday | for each of the classes (which supports num_features) we gotta use casted features! | 14:00 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: in fact, this might also be good for numerical features | 14:00 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: maybe this can be the same? | 14:00 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: umm.. how about string features? | 14:00 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: let me check quickly | 14:01 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: what are the variables in string features even? | 14:01 |
| HeikoS2 | lambday: not clear to me | 14:01 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: err... not much idea! may be the letters in a string?? | 14:01 |
| lambday | sonney2k: ^ | 14:01 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: there are 10 subclasses of CFeatures which has get_num_features() | 14:04 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: I think your supports_features idea is the way to go | 14:05 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: but if we can manage a CNumericalFeatures base for these.. then feature selection can work with that! | 14:06 |
| * lambday thinking | 14:06 | |
| lambday | do we intend to perform feature selection for features other than numerical features? :/ if not, then in feature selection we can work with CNumericalFeatures only | 14:07 |
| @wiking | lambday: why not only dotfeatures? | 14:08 |
| @wiking | i mean there's a very good reason why CFeatures has no get_num_features | 14:08 |
| lambday | wiking: yeah I totally agree | 14:09 |
| lambday | wiking: but the CDotFeatures class itself doesn't have get_num_features() | 14:09 |
| @wiking | mmm dig deeper then :P | 14:10 |
| @wiking | i mean go for a lower class | 14:10 |
| lambday | wiking: let me check which subclass of CDotFeatures has this missing | 14:10 |
| lambday | wiking: yeah | 14:10 |
| lambday | wiking: oh but you think that we can add that SG_WARNING thingi in the CDotFeatures itself, right? | 14:10 |
| @wiking | no | 14:10 |
| @wiking | please do not expose an api | 14:10 |
| @wiking | that has no meaning at a given level | 14:11 |
| lambday | wiking: alright.. agreed | 14:11 |
| lambday | wiking: so, ideally if we can put all those subclasses of CDotFeatures under another layer of abstraction, say, C<Something>Features, which defines the get_num_features(), then we're fine | 14:11 |
| lambday | rest of the CDotFeatures won't have it | 14:12 |
| @wiking | mmm maybe the abstraction is wrong yeah | 14:12 |
| @wiking | and maybe its not the best option to add another abstraction layer | 14:12 |
| @wiking | but refactor the abstraction | 14:12 |
| @wiking | this should be investigated | 14:12 |
| @wiking | but surely having functionX() {SG_NOTIMPLMENTED; } is a very bad approach | 14:12 |
| lambday | wiking: I am quickly checking which subclass of CDotFeatures doesn't have get_num_features()... if it turns out that all the subclasses have it, then we can move this one level up to CDotFeatures | 14:13 |
| @wiking | if it's not implemented, i.e. it has no meaning at a given abstraction class | 14:13 |
| lambday | wiking: yeah totally agreee! | 14:13 |
| @wiking | then it should never be implemented there | 14:13 |
| lambday | 20 subclasses of CDotFeatures! | 14:14 |
| lambday | I'm screwed! | 14:14 |
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| lambday | wiking: under CDotFeatures, only CDenseFeatures and CSparseFeatures has get_num_features() | 14:28 |
| lambday | wiking: does it make sense to put this under a more generic CNumericalFeatures? as in, CDotFeatures <-- CNumericalFeatures <-- CDenseFeatures | CSparseFeatures | 14:29 |
| lambday | and then in feature selection, we work with CNumericalFeatures instead? | 14:29 |
| lambday | HeikoS2: ^ | 14:29 |
| lambday | sonney2k: ^ | 14:30 |
| lambday | although, we will miss streaming dense and streaming sparse with this | 14:31 |
| @wiking | lambday: the thing is that string features can have that as well no? :) | 14:40 |
| @wiking | and even more you'd like to have feature selection for stringfeatures as well | 14:40 |
| lambday | wiking: ah I see | 14:40 |
| lambday | wiking: but string features is not under dot... | 14:40 |
| lambday | wiking: so there is no way we can unify this thing | 14:41 |
| @wiking | there is way :) | 14:41 |
| @wiking | it's just a quite deep refactor | 14:41 |
| lambday | wiking: well, with CStringFeatures, num_features is not defined | 14:45 |
| lambday | wiking: I mean, different feature vectors are of different length... how does one does feature selection for this? :-/ | 14:46 |
| lambday | do* | 14:46 |
| @wiking | lambday: btw sonney2k has a point... | 14:48 |
| lambday | wiking: dense/sparse? | 14:48 |
| @wiking | y | 14:50 |
| lambday | wiking: could you please have a look at the class design? | 14:57 |
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| @wiking | lambday: could u use some webservice for this? | 15:08 |
| @wiking | lambday: http://asciiflow.com/ | 15:08 |
| lambday | wiking: checking | 15:08 |
| lambday | wiking: ah.. I think it cannot import dia.. | 15:09 |
| lambday | wiking: wait I am making one from scratch then | 15:09 |
| @wiking | lambday: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6877121/is-there-a-free-browser-based-uml-modelling-tool | 15:10 |
| @wiking | check these services then | 15:10 |
| lambday | wiking: okies... thanks :) | 15:10 |
| lambday | wiking: writing comments are not possible with these! I attached a png also... could you please have a look at that? in case you can't open the dia file | 15:19 |
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