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| cheng | Hi guys, anybody awake yet? As usual, I have a noob question about compilation on OSX. | 05:32 |
| cheng | 2 issues: First, for some reason the variational_approx_example.cpp doesn't compile. It dies asking for a _main symbol. After removing it from CMakeLists.txt, compilation completes. | 05:33 |
| cheng | Second: with the python modular interface, import modshogun gives a segmentation fault. | 05:34 |
| cheng | I'm guessing it is some sort of path problem, but I've looked at a few standard things, but nothing seems to help. | 05:35 |
| cheng | I'm compiling the develop branch from github | 05:38 |
| @wiking | mmm hey | 05:39 |
| @wiking | cheng: what is your swig versio? | 05:39 |
| cheng | Swig version 3.0.2 | 05:40 |
| @wiking | mmm | 05:40 |
| @wiking | :< | 05:40 |
| @wiking | i have a bad nes for you | 05:40 |
| @wiking | *news | 05:40 |
| cheng | I need some special swig version? | 05:41 |
| @wiking | https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/2313 | 05:41 |
| @wiking | yeah unfortunately until we dont find out what's happening | 05:42 |
| @wiking | you would need swig2 | 05:42 |
| @wiking | if you want modular interface | 05:42 |
| cheng | I see. I'll try to downgrade. | 05:42 |
| @wiking | sorry for the inconvenience... | 05:43 |
| cheng | Price for being bleeding edge. :-) | 05:44 |
| @wiking | hehehe | 05:45 |
| cheng | Downgraded to swig 2.0.12. Still segfaulting. What's the right environment variable to set for lib on OSX? | 05:59 |
| @wiking | mmmm | 06:14 |
| @wiking | you need to set PYTHONPATH | 06:14 |
| @wiking | and DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH | 06:14 |
| cheng | Hmm.. I have those environment variables right. | 06:42 |
| cheng | make install puts my python code into site-packages and not dist-packages, but I assume that with PYTHONPATH pointing to site-packages, then it should be ok. | 06:43 |
| @wiking | yes | 06:44 |
| @wiking | cheng: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9387928/whats-the-difference-between-dist-packages-and-site-packages | 06:44 |
| @wiking | i.e. dist-packages = debian stuff | 06:44 |
| @wiking | everywhere else it's site-packages | 06:44 |
| cheng | by using python -v, it seems that I'm calling dlopen("./_modshogun.so", 2); | 06:45 |
| @wiking | where's your PYTHONPATH pointing exactly? | 06:46 |
| cheng | PYTHONPATH=/Users/cong/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/Users/cong/lib/python2.7/dist-packages:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages: | 06:54 |
| @wiking | how do you import shogun? | 06:55 |
| cheng | fresh python terminal. | 06:55 |
| @wiking | cheng: can you plz paste the output of this: ls /Users/cong/lib/python2.7/site-packages | 06:56 |
| cheng | _modshogun.so is in /Users/cong/lib/python2.7/site-packages | 06:56 |
| @wiking | btw how's winter over there? :) | 06:56 |
| cheng | $ ls /Users/cong/lib/python2.7/site-packages/ Cartopy-0.11.x-py2.7.egg-infomodshogun.py OptWok-0.4-py2.7.egg-infomodshogun.pyc _modshogun.sooptwok cartopyshogun | 06:56 |
| @wiking | mmmhm | 06:56 |
| cheng | Winter is pretty good in Australia. Temperature is 16C at the moment here in Canberra. | 06:57 |
| @wiking | is there anything in /Users/cong/lib/python2.7/site-packages/shogun ? | 06:57 |
| @wiking | cheng: what the heck r u doing in canberra again? :) | 06:57 |
| cheng | $ ls /Users/cong/lib/python2.7/site-packages/shogun/ ClassifierDistributionKernelMathematicsStatistics ClusteringEvaluationLatentModelSelectionStructure ConverterFeaturesLibraryPreprocessor__init__.py DistanceIOLossRegression | 06:57 |
| @wiking | okok that's the old shogun stuff... | 06:57 |
| cheng | They closed the lab down in Melbourne. Tough story... | 06:57 |
| @wiking | damn | 06:57 |
| @wiking | so you r in nicta on london circuit? | 06:57 |
| cheng | Basically, bioinformatics was not that popular in NICTA. | 06:58 |
| @wiking | :<<< | 06:58 |
| cheng | So, now I'm back in the machine learning group. | 06:58 |
| cheng | The same one. | 06:58 |
| @wiking | that was always pretty good @ nicta in canberra | 06:58 |
| @wiking | i've just relocated to singapore... if you happend to b around drop me a msg | 06:58 |
| cheng | Oh where to? | 06:58 |
| @wiking | ah i'm just nowhere now | 06:59 |
| @wiking | i've come here coz of my wife | 06:59 |
| cheng | I lived there for two years ages ago. | 06:59 |
| @wiking | so i'm now just hanging around... till i find something | 06:59 |
| cheng | What type of job are you looking for? | 06:59 |
| @wiking | mmm anything :) | 06:59 |
| cheng | I know a few people there. | 06:59 |
| cheng | Academic? | 06:59 |
| @wiking | happy to do anything if it's interesting | 06:59 |
| @wiking | you know ML (possibly shogun) :P | 07:00 |
| @wiking | usual stuff :> | 07:00 |
| cheng | Send me your resume: cheng-soon.ong@nicta.com.au | 07:00 |
| @wiking | ehehh cool will do | 07:00 |
| @wiking | thnx heaps! | 07:00 |
| @wiking | let's see your problem though | 07:00 |
| cheng | These path craziness is killing me. /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages does not contain shogun. | 07:01 |
| @wiking | ok | 07:01 |
| @wiking | PYTHONPATH=/Users/wiking/shogun-latest-build/lib/python2.7/site-packages DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Users/wiking/shogun-latest-build/lib ipython | 07:01 |
| @wiking | import modshogun | 07:02 |
| @wiking | that does it for me | 07:02 |
| @wiking | so i would say | 07:02 |
| @wiking | in your case | 07:02 |
| @wiking | PYTHONPATH=<the same one you've just pasted> DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Users/cong/lib python | 07:03 |
| @wiking | i assume the libshogun.16.1.dylib is in /Users/cong/lib | 07:03 |
| @wiking | irght? | 07:03 |
| cheng | yes. | 07:03 |
| @wiking | ok then try that | 07:03 |
| cheng | Huh, that works! | 07:04 |
| @wiking | great | 07:04 |
| cheng | What in the world is wrong with my path? | 07:04 |
| @wiking | nothing | 07:04 |
| cheng | Maybe dist-packages? | 07:05 |
| @wiking | it's just that you haven't installed shogun | 07:05 |
| @wiking | to a default path | 07:05 |
| @wiking | that's why you have to do these tricks | 07:05 |
| @wiking | you can set -DDCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local | 07:05 |
| cheng | All those exports in .profile doesn't do it?? | 07:05 |
| @wiking | i mean cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local | 07:06 |
| @wiking | .. | 07:06 |
| @wiking | and that will then isntall shogun under /usr/local/lib... | 07:06 |
| cheng | I did set INSTALL_PREFIX to /Users/cong/lib | 07:06 |
| @wiking | yeah | 07:06 |
| @wiking | then you have to set the right env variables | 07:06 |
| @wiking | ;) | 07:06 |
| @wiking | .profiles? | 07:06 |
| @wiking | ah yeah | 07:07 |
| cheng | I set environment variables in .profile | 07:07 |
| @wiking | you can set then there | 07:07 |
| cheng | cong:~ cong$ env | grep DYLD DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/Users/cong/lib: cong:~ cong$ env | grep PYTHONPATH PYTHONPATH=/Users/cong/lib/python2.7/site-packages:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages: cong:~ cong$ python Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 27 2014, 09:59:51) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 5.1 (clang-503.0.38)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import modshogun Segmentation fault: 11 | 07:08 |
| cheng | Oops, sorry for the lack of newlines. | 07:08 |
| cheng | maybe my python is not reading the environment variables? | 07:08 |
| cheng | which python | 07:09 |
| cheng | gives /usr/local/bin/python | 07:10 |
| cheng | Red herring! Sorry, In the window with the paths set before calling python, I accidentally imported shogun, *not* modshogun. | 07:11 |
| cheng | That still segfaults. | 07:11 |
| @wiking | mmmm | 07:12 |
| @wiking | damn | 07:12 |
| @wiking | whats your osx version? | 07:12 |
| cheng | 10.9.4 | 07:12 |
| @wiking | same here :S | 07:12 |
| cheng | cmake version 3.0.0 | 07:13 |
| @wiking | gotta run out for 30 mins | 07:13 |
| @wiking | if u r still around | 07:13 |
| @wiking | we can debug it | 07:13 |
| cheng | Thanks for your patience @wiking! | 07:13 |
| @wiking | nw | 07:13 |
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| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 30d89be / src/shogun/ui/GUIClassifier.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/30d89bec813df4aa6177f2384b6c86490db9f350 | 09:55 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Use the correct guard (HAVE_EIGEN3 instead of HAVE_EIGEN) in GUIClassifier. This fixes broken test in cmdline static. | 09:55 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 5c91980 / src/shogun/ui/GUIClassifier.cpp: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/5c919806d8933d4e0e1a518af814f008d7239157 | 09:55 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2436 from iglesias/fix/cmdline_static_classifier_lda_test | 09:55 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 09:55 |
| shogun-notifier- | shogun: Use the correct guard (HAVE_EIGEN3 instead of HAVE_EIGEN) | 09:55 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3143 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3143 blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 10:00 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/31308644 | 10:30 |
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| @thoralf | wiking: You pinged me yesterday. | 10:50 |
| @thoralf | I've got a few minutes now. | 10:51 |
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| travis-ci | [travis-ci] it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/31308644 | 10:53 |
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| @wiking | thoralf: hey morning | 10:54 |
| @thoralf | Hey. | 10:54 |
| @wiking | thoralf: yeh i was wondering about your idea about protobuf | 10:54 |
| @thoralf | wiking: Well, HeikoS said he wants to get rid of out home-grown serialization stuff and wants to use boost for it. I suggested to use protobuf, because we already have this dependency. | 10:56 |
| @thoralf | I discussed boost vs. protobuf once and I've been told that protobuf is more lightweight and less overengineered. | 10:57 |
| @thoralf | But I don't have *strong* emotions on this. | 10:57 |
| @thoralf | My main point was not to talk about boost as long as we don't know why to not use protobuf. | 10:58 |
| @thoralf | I also like the boost API. | 11:00 |
| @thoralf | In any case... we have to check how to integrate this to shogun without writing each mapping by hand. | 11:01 |
| @thoralf | wiking: What do you think about this? | 11:01 |
| @wiking | just a sec i had a call | 11:06 |
| @wiking | couldn't read till now | 11:06 |
| @wiking | yeah but the thing is that it was till now a really good thing that having our own serialization engine | 11:08 |
| @wiking | we could produce different outputs | 11:08 |
| @wiking | i.e. json, xml, protobuf | 11:09 |
| @wiking | etc | 11:09 |
| @wiking | and there are far better serialization libraries out there than protobuf | 11:09 |
| @wiking | check this for example: http://kentonv.github.io/capnproto/ | 11:09 |
| @wiking | or avro for that matter | 11:09 |
| @wiking | shogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'deb1 - libshogun' | 11:43 |
| shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 5m11s] | 11:43 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 11:43 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #3144 of deb1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun/builds/3144 | 11:44 |
| @wiking | shogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'deb2 - static_interfaces' | 11:44 |
| shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 3m14s] | 11:44 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 11:44 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #2260 of deb2 - static_interfaces is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb2%20-%20static_interfaces/builds/2260 | 11:46 |
| @thoralf | wiking: I like avro a lot. | 12:17 |
| @thoralf | wiking: Still we have to see how to integrate all this stuff. | 12:17 |
| @thoralf | wiking: Anyway, I shouldn't put my opinion on this because I never used this serialization. The whole discussion started with things to throw out with serialization as one example. | 12:18 |
| @thoralf | wiking: Then HeikoS said he wants to use boost serialization. | 12:19 |
| @thoralf | wiking: Then I said why not protobuf, because we already depend on this one. | 12:19 |
| @thoralf | Now we're here. ;) | 12:19 |
| @thoralf | Am, btw., the first point on our list was to put promote the nightly images so that we can offer "easy" installation of shogun for various distributions. | 12:20 |
| @thoralf | s/Am/And/ | 12:21 |
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| @besser82 | thoralf, wiking: Workshop Videos are online, now! See the mailinglist for an announcement && links... ^^ | 12:48 |
| @besser82 | wiking, do we want to make a torrent, too? | 12:48 |
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| @wiking | no that's fine if its' on youtube | 13:10 |
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| @besser82 | HeikoS, g' morning! ^^ | 13:13 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS: Workshop Videos are online, now! See the mailinglist for an announcement && links... ^^ | 13:13 |
| @HeikoS | besser82: i just saw them | 13:13 |
| @HeikoS | besser82: nice! thanks | 13:13 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, np yw! :D | 13:13 |
| @HeikoS | besser82: bit of a pityy with the sound | 13:13 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, why? | 13:13 |
| @HeikoS | distorted | 13:13 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, like clipping? | 13:14 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, or you talking about the side-noise... | 13:14 |
| @HeikoS | besser82: like the mic input is too much | 13:16 |
| @HeikoS | besser82: not your fault | 13:16 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, *phew* then i'm a a bit released, now! ^^ | 13:17 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, do we want to share them by bittorrent, too? | 13:17 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, I have enconded all vids with ogg/theora in CATV airing quali; yt somehow reprocesses them with a lousier quali... | 13:22 |
| @HeikoS | besser82: could you share the raw data? | 13:23 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, you mean the disk_img from the sdcards? | 13:24 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, files on it isn't touched and are encoded as MPEG-2-streams... | 13:24 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, vids on yt are mainly untouched; just cut a bit at the beginning and the end... | 13:25 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, and I tried to get the 'noise' out from them as good as possible... | 13:26 |
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| @besser82 | HeikoS, or what do you mean by `raw` data... | 13:28 |
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| @lisitsyn | huh | 13:59 |
| @lisitsyn | besser82: so how was the workshop? ;) | 13:59 |
| @besser82 | lisitsyn, *very* nice && good ^^ | 14:04 |
| @besser82 | lisitsyn, how was your move to moscow? | 14:04 |
| @lisitsyn | besser82: crazy :) | 14:05 |
| @besser82 | lisitsyn, let's move query ;) | 14:05 |
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| PirosB3 | Hi all, I have a list of 10 parameters of a function. Each parameter is a boolean value. As the function needs to be very performant, I need to find an intelligent way of caching. Each set of paramenters has a unique output that can be cached. Said this, it probabily is better to cached the most used common parameters first, and the less common used latest (I'm thinking of a sort of decision tree). Is there any algorithm you can suggest to handle this | 14:35 |
| PirosB3 | problem? thanks! | 14:35 |
| @lisitsyn | PirosB3: hey, it looks like something similar to tree in huffman coding | 14:55 |
| @lisitsyn | so its like decision tree yes | 14:55 |
| PirosB3 | but how can I encode it? | 14:55 |
| PirosB3 | how can I find the best split | 14:56 |
| PirosB3 | I have a list of all occurrancies for each parameter | 14:56 |
| @lisitsyn | ok let me think | 14:56 |
| @lisitsyn | so you have like 1010101010 | 14:56 |
| PirosB3 | ex: ('(False, False, False, True, False, True, True, True, True, False)', called 9398 times), | 14:56 |
| @lisitsyn | ahh ok | 14:56 |
| PirosB3 | ('(False, True, False, False, False, True, True, False, False, True)', 6020), | 14:56 |
| PirosB3 | called 6020 times | 14:56 |
| @lisitsyn | yeah got it so you need to optimize for this frequent cases | 14:57 |
| PirosB3 | exactly | 14:57 |
| PirosB3 | it's a cool problem, and probably an overkill for what I'm doing | 14:57 |
| @lisitsyn | then you need some kind of prefix tree but still not clear how to split it | 14:57 |
| PirosB3 | what about if I write a cost fn | 14:57 |
| PirosB3 | where cost == number of times called | 14:57 |
| PirosB3 | but then, once I write that, I still don't know how to split :D | 14:58 |
| @lisitsyn | PirosB3: what's pretty clear is that you'd need some kind of tree each node of which checks multiple bits at the moment | 15:07 |
| @lisitsyn | I mean basic tree won't make it faster for you | 15:07 |
| PirosB3 | what I could do | 15:08 |
| PirosB3 | is actually encode the "cost" in between transitions | 15:09 |
| PirosB3 | from one state to another state | 15:09 |
| PirosB3 | each decision makes a split | 15:09 |
| PirosB3 | then just use some optimizer | 15:09 |
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| @wiking | sonne|work: ping :) | 15:29 |
| sonne|work | wiking: pong | 15:31 |
| @wiking | sonne|work: no news yet? | 15:33 |
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| sonne|work | wiking: they are asking for some tax id which we don't have and I told them so... | 15:41 |
| @wiking | lol | 15:41 |
| @wiking | :> | 15:41 |
| @wiking | so we are now hanging in the air :) | 15:41 |
| @wiking | okey | 15:41 |
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| lambday | wiking: hi! | 15:57 |
| lambday | wiking: can we merge linalg to develop now? | 15:57 |
| lambday | wiking: I too needed to add a few methods there | 15:57 |
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| @wiking | lambday: no not yet | 16:16 |
| @wiking | lambday: i want to test it on a machine | 16:16 |
| @wiking | before actually merging it | 16:16 |
| lambday | wiking: yeah that would be the best | 16:16 |
| @wiking | which means we need a builtbot | 16:16 |
| @wiking | for that | 16:16 |
| @wiking | which is actually under progress | 16:17 |
| @wiking | but we dont know yet when it's going to be ready | 16:17 |
| @wiking | i hope this week | 16:17 |
| lambday | wiking: so as of now I am working on feature/linalg branch only | 16:17 |
| lambday | and send PRs there | 16:17 |
| @wiking | yeah i see that | 16:20 |
| @wiking | heiko pointed on gsomix as being me :DDD | 16:57 |
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| @besser82 | HeikoS, you got my mail about the different torrents? | 19:15 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, so you can pick the one which fits what you want and leech it... | 19:16 |
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| @besser82 | HeikoS, you got my mail about the different torrents? | 19:16 |
| @besser82 | HeikoS, so you can pick the one which fits what you want and leech it... | 19:16 |
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| @wiking | y u no build | 22:27 |
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