IRC logs of #shogun for Friday, 2014-10-31

--- Log opened Fri Oct 31 00:00:48 2014
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shogun-notifier-shogun: kislayabhi :develop * c1effd4 / doc/OpenCV_docs/ (7 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/c1effd4aa8be1048e044e55a4418d2f4ff95c2f204:46
shogun-notifier-shogun: opencv integration markdowns added04:46
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 84ad835 / doc/OpenCV_docs/ (7 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/84ad835cde2bc57c8a4f34361cdf2fc64ab7154b04:46
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2489 from kislayabhi/opencv_docs04:46
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shogun-notifier-shogun: examples and benchmarks added04:46
@wikingiglesiasg: monring04:48
@wikingiglesiasg: wtf r u doing in 4am :P04:48
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 1d13d6c / doc/OpenCV_docs/OpenCV-integration-examples.md: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/1d13d6c004c5d7394a4a52fa462f0a6ac67de12304:57
shogun-notifier-shogun: Update OpenCV-integration-examples.md04:57
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * ceee66c / doc/OpenCV_docs/OpenCV-integration-examples.md: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/ceee66caff63782a7bd7f0c94c2b454377c8ba5e04:58
shogun-notifier-shogun: Update OpenCV-integration-examples.md04:58
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 063cc12 / doc/OpenCV_docs/OpenCV_KNN_vs_Shogun_KNN.md: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/063cc12fd8acf419656530091a613a4f92e52f6605:12
shogun-notifier-shogun: Update OpenCV_KNN_vs_Shogun_KNN.md05:12
@iglesiasgwiking: damn jet lag05:12
@iglesiasgwiking: I woke up at around 2:30 and cannot sleep more05:13
@wiking:>05:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 46417fc / doc/OpenCV_docs/OpenCV_KNN_vs_Shogun_KNN.md: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/46417fccd56de15141f62b0366ada9f161f1da5105:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Update OpenCV_KNN_vs_Shogun_KNN.md05:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 5019961 / doc/OpenCV_docs/OpenCV_KNN_vs_Shogun_KNN.md: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/50199610114991ac81ac4ee5880ec221d8ddbfe205:16
shogun-notifier-shogun: Update OpenCV_KNN_vs_Shogun_KNN.md05:16
@wikingmmm fuck we should generate snapshots for Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn)05:17
@wikingis this released actually05:18
@wikinga yeah it seems05:18
@iglesiasgwiking: well, 14.04 is lts so it is cool to have it for it, methinks05:21
@wikingyeah but we should support latest as well05:21
@wikingi.e. 14.1005:21
@iglesiasgwiking: how much work is it to generate for different versions of the same os once one is ready?05:21
@wikingnah that's nothing05:21
@iglesiasgright05:21
@wikingi mean actually ubuntu is building it05:21
@wikingso it's really not much extra work05:21
@wikingbut there needs to be some extra work05:22
@wikingabout modular interface packaging05:22
@iglesiasgI see05:23
@wikingi mean i have 3 things on my plate05:23
@wikingmodular packaging for ppa05:23
@wikingswig 3.x fix05:23
@wikingosx modular interface fix05:23
@iglesiasgthose will be great to have, deffs05:24
@wikingbtw we should create golang modular interface as well one day05:24
@wikingshouldn't be that hard05:24
@iglesiasgwiking: the osx issue is the one related to this float64_t or so not supported?05:24
@wikingiglesiasg: ah no that's really minor thing05:24
@iglesiasgwiking: I would like that a lot, yeah. It is actually supported by swig iirc05:24
@wikingthe whole c# modular interface needs fixing05:25
@wikingas it was written for like .net 1.005:25
@iglesiasgwiking: hard word during the summit: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11020840/fernando_sobado_sf.jpg05:26
@wikinghttp://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/90/steps/csharp%20modular/logs/stdio05:26
@wikingthis is the problem05:26
@wikinghahaha lol05:26
@wikingiglesiasg: btw have u realised that actualy now one can have shogun on windows05:36
@wikinghttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/16/windows_containers_deep_dive/05:37
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@iglesiasgwindows buuh05:41
@wikingwell we need to support it in a way05:42
@wikingwe miss a lot of users because of that05:42
@iglesiasgwiking: do you have any idea what can we do to minimise the number of times Travis fails?05:42
@iglesiasgit is just a lot05:42
@wikingiglesiasg: slice up modular :)05:42
@iglesiasgthe normal thing is to find that at least one build broke. All green is rarely happening05:42
shogun-buildbotbuild #913 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed notebooks]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/913  blamelist: Viktor Gal <viktor.gal@maeth.com>05:43
@wikingit's all about not enough memory05:43
@wikingand .cxx itself is huge :<05:43
@wikingand of course it's just going to grow and grow05:45
@iglesiasgI am not sure anymore whether it is time or memory05:45
@wikingmem05:45
@wikingalways the modular interface fails05:45
@iglesiasgI think I've seen lately the third gcc build in travis list fail a few times due to "Killed"05:45
@wikinghave that's the coverage05:46
@wikingwe can kill that05:46
@wikingbut the modulars are always failing05:46
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 3b6b622 / doc/OpenCV_docs/Home.md: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/3b6b6227fd347453f514f3de77bc8934ddc6463305:47
shogun-notifier-shogun: Remove OpenCV/Home.md since this information is in the home of the wiki.05:47
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 0038dcb / doc/OpenCV_docs/Home.md: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/0038dcb83240a2da52bfbe0e9b9bffb48b4708e305:47
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2591 from iglesias/develop05:47
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Remove OpenCV/Home.md since this information is in the home of the wiki.05:47
@iglesiasgwiking: is it useful to have the coverage in travis?05:48
@wikingwell we can move it to buildbot05:48
@iglesiasgwiking: do we read the results from there normally or from buildbot?05:48
@wikingit's just integrated nicely this way05:48
@iglesiasgyeah, that's the thing05:48
@wikingwith buildbot we'll have to do some hacking05:48
@iglesiasgwe should make this huge project of modularising Shogun05:49
@wikingok05:49
@wikingi'm off05:49
@iglesiasghaha05:49
@wikingbll lunchtime05:49
@wiking:)05:49
@iglesiasgmaybe in the hackaton if we get funding for it05:49
@wiking(and i told u that i have 3 tasks on my plate atm... so i'm not touching anything else)05:49
@iglesiasgI think I'll try to get a couple of hours of sleep before getting ready for the day05:50
@iglesiasgyeah sure, it was just a thought05:50
@iglesiasgnot implying we have to make it *now*05:50
@wiking:P05:50
@wikingwe should though :>05:50
@wikinganyhow i'm very hungry05:50
@wikingbbl05:50
@iglesiasgit probably requires some more design and thinking first05:50
@iglesiasgsee ya, enjoy your meal05:50
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 2805d06 / src/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/2805d065b64131398f552e9fb00d737e747e0f6205:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Remove generalised HMM class since its implementation is empty.05:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * e699d44 / src/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/e699d44782786da6206ed5a2e3c66aaef0d515e405:53
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2588 from iglesias/cleanups05:53
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Remove generalised HMM class since its implementation is empty.05:53
shogun-buildbotbuild #868 of precise - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/868  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>, kislayabhi <abhijeetkislay@gmail.com>05:55
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shogun-buildbotbuild #94 of osx2 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed csharp modular]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/94  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>07:08
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@HeikoSwiking: hey!10:36
@wikingHeikoS: yo10:39
@HeikoSwiking: http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/99993-how-do-i-call-a-simple-hello-world-java-program-in-matlab10:39
@HeikoSwiking: what if we only support Matlab with java?10:40
@HeikoSwiking: more of a long term thing, but I am curious whether that would work10:40
@wikingthere's now work by somebody on swig+matlab10:40
@HeikoSwiking: really?10:40
@wikingyeo10:40
@HeikoSwiking: I saw something a while ago, where did you find that?10:40
@wikingmailinlist10:41
@wikingof swig10:41
@wikinghttps://github.com/jaeandersson/swig/commits/matlab10:41
@HeikoSwiking: awesome10:42
@HeikoSwiking: I will write them and ask10:42
@HeikoSwiking: do you have facebook?10:45
@wikingyeah y?10:45
@HeikoSwiking: one of the guys has no public email, maybe you could forward my message to him?10:45
@HeikoSwiking: ill cc you10:45
@HeikoSwiking: I sent you a PM with his fb link and cced you in the email10:51
@HeikoSwiking: lets see10:51
@wikingkk10:53
@wikingcool10:53
@wikingcan't we just ping him via github? :)10:54
@wikingHeikoS: how's ian btW?10:54
@HeikoSwiking: maybe, I dont know how to send messages over github10:55
@HeikoSwiking: how's?10:55
@wikingah wait10:55
@HeikoSwiking: what do you mean?10:55
@HeikoShttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/259210:55
@wikingHeikoS: https://github.com/jaeandersson/swig/commit/a784b74a5d5172cf6986aed5f57f73472d1e0172.patch10:55
@wikingHeikoS: From: Joel Andersson <j.a.e.andersson@gmail.com>10:55
@HeikoSwiking: awesome thanks10:56
@wikingHeikoS: i've got your mail now, but who's ian to whom u sent the email? :D10:56
@HeikoSwiking: another dev in swig10:57
@HeikoSwiking: just looked who sent patches ;)10:57
@HeikoSwiking: just saw this guy10:57
@HeikoSKris Thielemans10:57
@HeikoSwiking: is from london10:58
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@wikingaaah ok10:58
@wikingwell yeah but now we know joel's email so i guess we should directly contact him10:58
@HeikoSwiking: how did you get the log?10:58
@HeikoSI want to write him too10:58
@HeikoSwiking: I did10:58
@wikingas he is the actual developer of the matlab patch10:59
@wikingwel github10:59
@HeikoSwiking: and this kris guy too, maybe I can meet with him here10:59
@wikingwell github... you know git requries you to set an author...10:59
@HeikoSwiking: yeah but how to get that over the webpage10:59
@wikingand you can ask for the raw patch/commit from github10:59
@wikinghttps://github.com/jaeandersson/swig/commit/a784b74a5d5172cf6986aed5f57f73472d1e017210:59
@wikingweb diff10:59
@wikinghttps://github.com/jaeandersson/swig/commit/a784b74a5d5172cf6986aed5f57f73472d1e0172.patch11:00
@wikingi.e append .patch to the url11:00
@wikingand voila11:00
@HeikoSwiking: yeah found it11:00
@HeikoScool did not know that :)11:00
@wikingHeikoS: check your PR emails from github11:00
@wikingyou'll see there ;)11:00
@HeikoSwiking: matlab seems to work good11:00
@HeikoSthey even have director classes11:00
@HeikoSand a test-suite11:00
@wikingbtw i've foudn the bug with swig3.x11:00
@wikingi'm currently trying to figure out with swig people11:00
@wikinghow to fix it11:01
@wikingbut basically it's only for python11:01
@HeikoSwiking: ah great!11:01
@wikingi guess by monday we'll have a way11:01
@wikingi already have a way to fix it11:01
@wikingbut maybe we are not using swig3.x in the right way11:01
@wikingthat's why i want to doublecheck with swig ppl11:01
@HeikoSwiking: I see11:02
@HeikoSwiking: great!"11:02
@HeikoSwiking: I pushed bj?rn to fix the fedora11:02
@HeikoSwiking: then we still have swig3, ubuntu-binary, and some mini things11:03
@wikingfedora?11:03
@HeikoSwiking: build is broken11:03
@wikingah that's normal11:03
@wikingit's FH11:03
@HeikoSwiking: and then I think we are in shape soon11:03
@HeikoSwiking: haha :D11:03
@wikingi mean it's like testing with debian sid11:03
@wikingsometimes its broken sometimes it's not11:03
@wikingbut that's the life of unstable distro...11:03
@HeikoSwiking: I see, well it would still be good if thats green dont you think?11:03
@wikingno11:03
@wikingit's unrelated to shogun11:04
@HeikoSwiking: ok then11:04
@HeikoSwiking: even better11:04
@wikingit's an unstable branch of fedora11:04
@HeikoSwiking: I will then now start to do all the soft things we need for release: blog-post, release email, etc11:04
@wikingok11:04
@wikingi still need to fix some stuff for11:04
@wikingosx11:04
@HeikoSwiking: I have to prepare a talk for Monday, so no time before that, and need to prepare teaching for Wed also, but the test of next week is free for me11:05
@wikingand there's still the question of whether or not we should get the debian packaging scrip into the repo11:05
@HeikoSso we could push it through by then maybe?11:05
@wikingi would say yes but would be great to have a chat about it with sonney2k11:05
@HeikoSwiking: ah good point11:05
@HeikoSwiking: I dont think thats feasible11:05
@HeikoS(talking to sonney2k)11:05
@wikingyou mean talk? )11:05
@wiking:D11:05
@wikinghe is superbusy?11:05
@HeikoSyeah, and unreliable to get things done in time11:05
@HeikoSso rather do it ourselves11:05
@HeikoSI guess you can decide in that case ;)11:06
@wikinghehe i see11:06
@wikingi'll see how i can proceed11:06
@wikingbut anyhow there's still some things to be done11:06
@wikingto have all the stuff in ppa11:06
@HeikoSbtw what do you think about a feature freeze after this release?11:06
@HeikoSlike only clean-ups and fixes?11:06
@wikingyeah we need to do that11:06
@HeikoSfor at least until next GSoC starts11:06
@wikingyeah11:07
@wikingwe should rather do some architectural changes11:07
@HeikoSand compile a list of things for students to do in entrance period that are all fixes11:07
@HeikoSand no more crappy implemented ml algos11:07
@HeikoSyeah agree11:07
@wikinghehehe11:07
@HeikoStalked a lot with thoralf and fernando about this11:07
@HeikoSwe made a huge list of ideas for re-structuring and clean ups11:07
@HeikoSwill try to structure that soon11:07
@wikingput it up somewhere11:07
@HeikoSand then start step by step11:07
@HeikoSalready did but not cleaned11:07
@wikingokok11:08
@HeikoSrest is in my head but will put that up soon11:08
@HeikoShttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/Shogun-developer-meetings11:08
@HeikoSI put that in here11:08
@HeikoS(the first notes) more to follow11:08
@HeikoSwiking: and some other things here11:09
@HeikoShttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/Project%20roadmaps11:09
@HeikoSits all in the wiki index11:09
@HeikoSwiking: btw try11:10
@HeikoSwiking: nm -gC libshogun.so |grep " T shogun::" |cut -d' ' -f3- |cut -d: -f3 |sort |11:10
@HeikoSuniq -c |sort -n |tail -n2011:10
@wikingyeah i saw that11:10
@HeikoSwiking: I will work on those things soon11:12
@HeikoSbut yeah, for now release ;)11:12
@HeikoSor moreover, now I have to prepare my talk, hehe11:12
@HeikoSwiking: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/Shogun-slim11:28
@HeikoSwiking: more to come, sounds quite extreme at first, but is not really when one thinks about it. Not loosing too much, but Ill put details later and start discussions11:29
@HeikoSwiking: man!11:36
@HeikoSwiking: I just saw the ppa11:36
@HeikoSamazing!11:37
@HeikoSwiking: I think you can safely remove colpack from the ppa11:37
@HeikoSits only one algorithm that is affacted11:37
@HeikoSaffected11:37
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 9305aa9 / tests/unit/statistics/QuadraticTimeMMD_unittest.cc: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/9305aa9d1bab28d20979033b0fd7c8e2d545b85e11:42
shogun-notifier-shogun: Update QuadraticTimeMMD_unittest.cc11:42
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shogun-notifier-shogun: reduce accuracy in compute_variance_null to fix issue #258911:42
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travis-ciit's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/3958358311:52
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shogun-buildbotbuild #870 of precise - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/870  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>12:00
shogun-buildbotbuild #897 of FCRH - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FCRH%20-%20libshogun/builds/897  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>12:04
shogun-buildbotbuild #95 of osx2 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed csharp modular]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/95  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>12:11
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@HeikoSwiking: btw I think I will use Shogun for teaching a kernel course soon17:23
@HeikoSwiking: for students exercise solving17:23
@wikingcool17:23
@HeikoSwiking: will be like 20 people17:23
@wikingmore ipynb i sense in the air :)17:23
@HeikoSif we have the ubuntu package and the cloud, that should do it17:23
@HeikoSwiking: yeah exactly17:23
@HeikoSthey will have to fill in missing parts17:23
@HeikoSdo experiments, etc17:23
@HeikoSmaybe they like it17:24
@HeikoSmaybe they go around and tell how much they hate it :D17:24
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