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USC | Hello All | 00:28 |
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USC | hey wiking, are you here? | 00:28 |
USC | I'm trying to run shogun on Visual Studio 2013 | 00:28 |
USC | I need help | 00:28 |
USC | Error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'shogun/ui/...' | 00:29 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #922 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/922 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 04:13 |
@wiking | USC: mmmm compiling shogun with visual studio will take some significant amount of time to fix some code | 04:16 |
USC | wiking: Which is the easiest way to use shogun? | 05:20 |
@wiking | linux | 05:23 |
@wiking | or docker | 05:23 |
USC | Docker made my computer internet connection unstable, sometimes I lost wireless connection and couldn't connect back, I had to restart my computer, so I uninstalled it, | 05:27 |
USC | which is better VMVARE linux on windows or Docker? | 05:27 |
USC | I couldn't even copy paste command into Docker | 05:28 |
USC | I had to write them all again and again | 05:28 |
USC | is it the same with VMWare Linux? | 05:29 |
USC | And which linux should I use? | 05:29 |
USC | wiking: ? | 05:29 |
USC | wiking: Are you there? I'm waiting for your answer.. | 05:34 |
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USC | wiking: ? | 06:05 |
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USC | hello | 09:51 |
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USC | hello wiking | 10:10 |
USC | I'm installing vmware + ubuntu 12.04 to run shogun | 10:10 |
USC | will you help me? | 10:10 |
USC | installation finished | 10:14 |
USC | my data file is an Excel file | 10:14 |
USC | how can I run shogun under Ubuntu 12.04 | 10:14 |
USC | ? | 10:15 |
USC | anybody alive here? | 10:22 |
USC | I need help | 10:22 |
@wiking | mmm | 10:27 |
@wiking | why 12.04? | 10:27 |
@wiking | 14.04 | 10:27 |
@wiking | is LTS | 10:27 |
@wiking | well excel file we dont support but you could use a csv | 10:27 |
USC | wiking: glad you're here | 10:29 |
USC | I couldn't find the lastest image for vmware | 10:29 |
USC | do you have a link for that? | 10:29 |
@wiking | mmm u could install it from scratch | 10:29 |
USC | will shogun work with 12.04? | 10:30 |
@wiking | should | 10:31 |
@wiking | but that's a way outdated ubuntu | 10:31 |
@wiking | hence some of the cutting edge feature of shogun might not work | 10:31 |
@wiking | so i really see no point why dont u use 14.04 | 10:31 |
@wiking | just download the iso | 10:31 |
@wiking | and boot from that and install it | 10:31 |
@wiking | and since you already have boot2docker | 10:32 |
@wiking | you possibly have virtualbox | 10:32 |
@wiking | so you could use that already | 10:32 |
USC | but now I'm using vmware | 10:32 |
@wiking | don't need for vmware | 10:32 |
@wiking | but yeah you use whatever fits your needs better | 10:32 |
USC | I don't understand the docker, | 10:32 |
@wiking | i'm just saying that if i were u i would use 14.04 | 10:32 |
USC | it is just a command line like cmd in windows | 10:32 |
USC | I tried cgywin also | 10:33 |
USC | make -f makefile didn't work on cygwin | 10:33 |
USC | anyway | 10:33 |
USC | how will I run shogun under linux ubuntu? | 10:33 |
USC | I have downloaded the shogun toolbox under Documents | 10:33 |
@wiking | usc there's a lot of manual/help about this in the documentation | 10:33 |
USC | come on, please help me about this | 10:34 |
@wiking | USC: ? | 10:34 |
USC | it has been a week, and I couldn't figure it out how to run shogun | 10:34 |
@wiking | mmm | 10:34 |
@wiking | well maybe that says something or? | 10:34 |
USC | that? | 10:35 |
USC | or? | 10:35 |
@wiking | https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/QUICKSTART | 10:35 |
@wiking | this is a very good explanation | 10:35 |
@wiking | but i would suggest using the latest version of shogun | 10:35 |
@wiking | and not 3.1.1 | 10:35 |
@wiking | i.e. checkout the git repository | 10:36 |
USC | ok | 10:36 |
USC | I downloaded the latest version | 10:36 |
USC | how will I open bash command screen on linux | 10:36 |
USC | where is it | 10:36 |
USC | ? | 10:37 |
USC | wiking: ? | 10:38 |
@wiking | USC: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+beginners+guide+terminal | 10:38 |
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@wiking | HeikoS: yo man | 10:44 |
@wiking | wazza | 10:44 |
@HeikoS | wiking: wazaaaap | 10:45 |
@wiking | valsing | 10:46 |
@wiking | just writing am email to marc | 10:46 |
@HeikoS | wiking remind me | 10:47 |
@wiking | aabout | 10:48 |
@wiking | ? | 10:48 |
@HeikoS | marc | 10:48 |
@wiking | HeikoS: VALS | 10:48 |
@wiking | semester of code | 10:48 |
@HeikoS | wiking: ah yeah | 10:48 |
@HeikoS | good | 10:48 |
@HeikoS | wiking: deadline is today right? | 10:48 |
@wiking | nah | 10:48 |
@wiking | 3 more days | 10:48 |
@HeikoS | fernando was super motivated to do this | 10:48 |
@HeikoS | wiking: we mostly need task descriptions right? | 10:49 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: heya | 10:49 |
@HeikoS | wanted to do a few these days | 10:49 |
@wiking | yeah i mean the whole thing is super flexible | 10:49 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: heya | 10:49 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: need your advice ;) | 10:49 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn, wiking shall we try to do a stammtisch tonight? | 10:49 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: shoot! | 10:49 |
@wiking | hehehe i have the interview with http://www.thedataincubator.com/ tonight | 10:49 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: anything GP related for a bachelor student | 10:49 |
@HeikoS | wiking: awesome! | 10:49 |
@HeikoS | wiking: fingers crossed! | 10:50 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: details please | 10:50 |
@lisitsyn | yeah lets go wiking :D | 10:50 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: some research topic | 10:50 |
@wiking | HeikoS: yeah i've got super sick... fucking a/c kills me in singapore | 10:50 |
@wiking | although it's 35 degree celsius atm | 10:50 |
@HeikoS | wiking: aaah. hate ac too | 10:50 |
@wiking | so helooooo bitches :D | 10:50 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: need any problem that could be solved with a thesis :D | 10:50 |
@HeikoS | haha | 10:50 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: is this shogun related? | 10:50 |
@wiking | it never goes below 25 :D | 10:51 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: yes possibly | 10:51 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: I have an idea | 10:51 |
@lisitsyn | I can force student to write shogun code | 10:51 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 10:51 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: there is this work by andrew wilson | 10:51 |
@HeikoS | on spectral mixture kernels | 10:51 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: that is a nice gsoc project | 10:51 |
@HeikoS | but maybe its interesting for your student | 10:51 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: well we can force it before | 10:51 |
@HeikoS | the idea is to take fourier transoform of kernel, then put a gaussian mixture on the frequency coefficients, and then learn the parameters like this | 10:52 |
@lisitsyn | if someone takes that he would start in december | 10:52 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: this gives a very flexibly family of kernel functions which is easy to learn | 10:52 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: in some sense similar to a multiple kernel learning regression, but way easier | 10:52 |
@lisitsyn | what do you mean by fourier of kernel? | 10:52 |
@HeikoS | works with GP framework | 10:52 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: write it in frequency space, see bochners theorem | 10:52 |
@wiking | (t) -> (omega) | 10:53 |
@wiking | ;) | 10:53 |
@lisitsyn | hmm no I mean I am confused with that because we usually transform a vector | 10:53 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 10:53 |
@HeikoS | http://techtalks.tv/talks/gaussian-process-kernels-for-pattern-discovery-and-extrapolation/58204/ | 10:53 |
@lisitsyn | cool | 10:54 |
@lisitsyn | thanks | 10:54 |
@wiking | lisitsyn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier_transform#Definition | 10:54 |
@HeikoS | http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~andrewgw/manet.pdf | 10:54 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: see section 2 | 10:54 |
@lisitsyn | wiking: want to kill me with math? :D | 10:54 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: you want to look up bochers theorem | 10:54 |
@wiking | lisitsyn: heheh it's a very simple integral | 10:54 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: no thats easy | 10:54 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: idea is that you represent the kernel in frequency space and learn parameters there | 10:55 |
@wiking | even a horse can do that ft | 10:55 |
@lisitsyn | hmm yeah I've got | 10:55 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: which seems a bit easier since one doesnt have to decide on a parametric form | 10:55 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: they apply this to image inpainting | 10:55 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: but you've got to choose the kernel still? | 10:55 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: but one can use this spectral mixture kernels to do say regression | 10:55 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: no | 10:55 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: the spectral mixture kernel is the kernel | 10:55 |
@HeikoS | just need to learn gaussian mixture components | 10:56 |
@lisitsyn | ahh so the trick is that we learn the kernel | 10:56 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: which can be done via marginal likelihood optimisation | 10:56 |
@lisitsyn | GMM of fourier coefficients? | 10:56 |
@HeikoS | i.e. bfgs or gradient decent | 10:56 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: yes | 10:56 |
@wiking | hehe that's a funny idea | 10:56 |
@lisitsyn | that's pretty vague for me but sounds cool | 10:56 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: the main question is | 10:56 |
@lisitsyn | how can one do something about that that is 'defendable' :D | 10:57 |
@lisitsyn | I mean they already have this method - what can I suggest to do about it? | 10:57 |
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@wiking | lisitsyn: it's a BSc | 10:59 |
@wiking | he just have to do a review of it | 10:59 |
@wiking | i reckon | 10:59 |
@lisitsyn | hmm well | 10:59 |
@wiking | and maybe apply to a dataset | 10:59 |
@lisitsyn | yeah but I am like responsible | 10:59 |
@wiking | that hasn't been evaluated yet | 10:59 |
@wiking | he doesn't have to come up with something novel | 10:59 |
@wiking | it's not going to be published in a journal or? :D | 10:59 |
@lisitsyn | wiking: well I can also have masters student :D | 11:00 |
@wiking | same applies | 11:01 |
@wiking | never heard of some project | 11:01 |
@wiking | i mean msc project has to be something totally novel | 11:01 |
@lisitsyn | not totally novel | 11:01 |
@wiking | i mean it wouldn't even be feasible | 11:01 |
@wiking | i really reckon | 11:01 |
@wiking | something like | 11:01 |
@wiking | optimization | 11:01 |
@lisitsyn | I just don't know what are points of extension here | 11:01 |
@wiking | implementing it within a framework | 11:01 |
@wiking | using some interesting datasets | 11:02 |
@wiking | that sort of things are fine enough for a BSc/MSc thingy | 11:02 |
@lisitsyn | yeah I will give him interesting datasets :D | 11:02 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn, wiking this is quite nice for extrapolation | 11:02 |
@lisitsyn | terabytes of interesting datasets | 11:02 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 11:02 |
@HeikoS | so maybe a dataset where one needs to extrapolate | 11:02 |
@HeikoS | image inpainting | 11:02 |
@lisitsyn | I have a few | 11:02 |
@lisitsyn | actually | 11:02 |
@HeikoS | regression for prediction of future | 11:02 |
@HeikoS | etc | 11:02 |
@lisitsyn | cool | 11:02 |
@lisitsyn | okay I'll suggest that | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: check out the GP book | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | there is this co2 example in there | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | in the book, they manually come up with a combination of 5 kernels | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | then learn the parameters of the combination | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | with the spectral mixture, its only learning parameters of one kernel | 11:03 |
@lisitsyn | that's cool | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: for shogun, all to do is to implement 1 more kernel, then plug into existing framework | 11:03 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: is it possible to make it scale? | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | and then notebook | 11:03 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: if your input space lies on a grid, then one can speed this up quite a bit | 11:04 |
@HeikoS | like images | 11:04 |
@HeikoS | see paper | 11:04 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: what's grid but not image? | 11:05 |
@lisitsyn | can I treat some user behaviour wrt time as grid | 11:05 |
@lisitsyn | ? | 11:05 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: it always depends on whether the arguments to the kernel are on a grid | 11:06 |
@HeikoS | so depends on your feature space | 11:06 |
@HeikoS | but I guess not | 11:06 |
@lisitsyn | HeikoS: well time is like per second | 11:07 |
@lisitsyn | isn't it grid? | 11:07 |
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shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * b81949d / doc/Doxyfile_en.in,doc/md,doc/pages/Documentation.mainpage: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b81949d1b849ec13dd66053a4061b763480ef3f8 | 11:20 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: link authors and contributions to md-readme files, update md hash | 11:20 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 7f14591 / doc/md,doc/pages/Authors.mainpage: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/7f14591505fad33309a795d3c5edb16fcd632f58 | 11:20 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Make doxygen include md files properly | 11:20 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * b209d6f / doc/ (4 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b209d6fd89f9ba25ae612e2e9bf32a9413dc9491 | 11:20 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2610 from karlnapf/develop | 11:20 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 11:20 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Use AUTHORS.md and CONTRIBUTIONS.md from Doxygen | 11:20 |
USC | hello | 11:24 |
USC | I've installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS | 11:24 |
USC | when I typed cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX="$HOME/shogun-install" .. | 11:25 |
USC | -- Try OpenMP CXX flag = [-xopenmp] -- Performing Test OpenMP_FLAG_DETECTED CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/CMakeCXXInformation.cmake:37 (get_filename_component): get_filename_component called with incorrect number of arguments Call Stack (most recent call first): CMakeLists.txt:3 (PROJECT) CMake Error: CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER not set, after EnableLanguage CMake Error: Internal CMake error, TryCompile configure of cmake fail | 11:25 |
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@HeikoS | shogun-buildbot, force build "nightly_default" | 11:26 |
@HeikoS | shogun-buildbot, force build "nightly_all" | 11:26 |
shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 11:26 |
shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 11:26 |
USC | wiking: ? are you there? | 11:26 |
USC | or anybody | 11:26 |
shogun-buildbot | build #923 forced | 11:27 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 11:27 |
USC | CMake Error: CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER not set, after EnableLanguage CMake Error: Internal CMake error, TryCompile configure of cmake failed -- Performing Test OpenMP_FLAG_DETECTED - Failed -- Try OpenMP CXX flag = [+Oopenmp] -- Performing Test OpenMP_FLAG_DETECTED CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/CMakeCXXInformation.cmake:37 (get_filename_component): get_filename_component called with incorrect number of arguments Call Stack (most | 11:27 |
@wiking | USC: i guess you are missing g++ | 11:28 |
shogun-buildbot | build #883 of precise - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/883 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 11:28 |
@wiking | or compiler for that matter | 11:28 |
USC | so what do I do? | 11:29 |
USC | why is this that complicated | 11:29 |
@wiking | apt-get install it | 11:29 |
@wiking | USC: i reckon this is rather easy | 11:29 |
@HeikoS | wiking: what about removing the precise build? | 11:30 |
@HeikoS | wiking: oh and could we add opencv to the nightly build or something? | 11:30 |
@wiking | HeikoS: it's there | 11:30 |
@wiking | opencv | 11:30 |
@wiking | just the version is not good | 11:30 |
@wiking | but not much i can do about that atm | 11:30 |
@HeikoS | wiking: really, ah sorry then, which build? | 11:30 |
@wiking | don't want to install something from src | 11:30 |
@HeikoS | wiking: yeah agreed | 11:30 |
@wiking | and i couldn't find a newer deb package | 11:30 |
@HeikoS | wiking: just wanted to have kislays tutorial be part of the continuous testing | 11:30 |
@wiking | HeikoS: mmm i reckon maybe we could use the trusty bot for that | 11:31 |
@wiking | i'll check the version of opencv in ubuntu trusty | 11:31 |
@HeikoS | I mean we dont need that on travis, as its unlikely to break, but still would be good | 11:31 |
USC | wiking: how will I download a compiler and the g++ | 11:31 |
@HeikoS | if you do it, could you send me an email? | 11:31 |
USC | @wiking: | 11:31 |
@HeikoS | USC: google the question | 11:31 |
@HeikoS | USC: thats very standard | 11:31 |
@HeikoS | USC: depends on your operating system, etc, but it is VERY easy | 11:32 |
@wiking | USC: btw compiler = g++ | 11:32 |
shogun-buildbot | build #910 of FCRH - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FCRH%20-%20libshogun/builds/910 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 11:32 |
USC | HeikoS: Windows 8.1 + VMWare + Ubuntu 14.04 | 11:32 |
@wiking | USC: yeah that's a rather easy setup | 11:32 |
@HeikoS | USC: ubuntu: sudo apt-get install g++ or similar, as said, best thing is to google for a little tutorial | 11:33 |
@wiking | USC: i mean can i ask you why would you like to use shogun, for what purpose? | 11:33 |
@wiking | HeikoS: mmm yeah it's 2.4 so i reckn that a good version for the opencv integration | 11:33 |
USC | great write me the command for compiler too please wiking | 11:33 |
@wiking | USC: ? | 11:33 |
@wiking | USC: this is not a wishlist channel | 11:34 |
@wiking | that's like on amazon.com | 11:34 |
@wiking | USC: i'm sorry man but this is not linux support channel... if you happen to have problems with linux itself, maybe join #linux channel | 11:34 |
@wiking | or #ubuntu for that matter | 11:34 |
@wiking | and ask around there for basic linux related questions | 11:35 |
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travis-ci | it's Heiko Strathmann's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/40525009 | 11:35 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #114 of osx2 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed csharp modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/114 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 11:36 |
@HeikoS | wiking: how is release state? | 11:38 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: ^ | 11:38 |
@lisitsyn | I fell off the train again | 11:38 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 11:38 |
@lisitsyn | tried to climb it | 11:38 |
@wiking | ahahahah | 11:38 |
@wiking | HeikoS: phd interrupt overhere | 11:38 |
@wiking | but now i'm back again | 11:38 |
@wiking | ppa is going nicely | 11:39 |
@HeikoS | wiking: whats the priority list? | 11:39 |
@HeikoS | wiking: nice! :) | 11:39 |
@HeikoS | wiking: big step | 11:39 |
@wiking | HeikoS: well i have only one thing left on my list | 11:39 |
@HeikoS | wiking: where can I see whether it worked/failed? | 11:39 |
@wiking | i know why swig 3.x fails | 11:39 |
@lisitsyn | really? | 11:39 |
@lisitsyn | why? | 11:39 |
@wiking | -modern -modernargs | 11:39 |
@wiking | ;) | 11:39 |
@wiking | i've notified swig ppl | 11:39 |
@wiking | there's an issue about this | 11:39 |
@HeikoS | wiking: did quite some doc cleanups etc, so I think we should be ready soon, all warnings are gone too | 11:39 |
@wiking | basically i dont know whether we are not setting something right | 11:40 |
@wiking | or swig does it wrong | 11:40 |
@wiking | but i gave them a very detailed debug | 11:40 |
@wiking | + commit number where the whole thing got broke | 11:40 |
shogun-buildbot | build #115 of osx2 - modular_interfaces is complete: Failure [failed csharp modular] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/osx2%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/115 blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com> | 11:40 |
@wiking | haven't got any reply yet | 11:40 |
@wiking | regarding who's doing some shit wrong | 11:40 |
@wiking | but i can give a quickfix | 11:40 |
@wiking | and this is only python related | 11:40 |
@wiking | lisitsyn: basically if u remove those to swig parameters | 11:41 |
@wiking | the whole python modular will just work fine | 11:41 |
@HeikoS | wiking: cool | 11:42 |
@HeikoS | wiking: so thats all from you | 11:42 |
@HeikoS | wiking: what about osx? | 11:42 |
@HeikoS | wiking: me and fernando need to write blogpost, but that can be done while releasing | 11:43 |
@wiking | HeikoS: that's the last remaining error i need to fix | 11:43 |
@wiking | and then i'm good to go | 11:43 |
@HeikoS | wiking: cool | 11:43 |
@wiking | i'll try to get an answer from swig ppl | 11:43 |
@wiking | regarding the whole thing for swig 3.x | 11:43 |
@wiking | and in worst case we do a quickfix :) | 11:43 |
@HeikoS | ok nice | 11:43 |
@wiking | https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=788476607859356&set=vb.212653428775013&type=2&theater | 11:44 |
@HeikoS | notebooks currently fail | 11:44 |
@wiking | ;) | 11:44 |
@HeikoS | thats one important thing | 11:44 |
@wiking | HeikoS: yeah i know... it's partly because timeout | 11:44 |
@wiking | ;) | 11:44 |
@HeikoS | wiking: dont have flash, what is that? :) | 11:44 |
@HeikoS | wiking: only partly, there are some errors coming from cleanups | 11:44 |
@wiking | HeikoS: awesome clip :D | 11:44 |
@wiking | about a washing machine | 11:44 |
@HeikoS | and I merged a bad notebook | 11:44 |
@HeikoS | hahah, wiking you always with that stuff :D | 11:44 |
@wiking | dude check it out | 11:45 |
@wiking | you'll be amazed | 11:45 |
@wiking | especally the last 1 minute | 11:45 |
@wiking | :D | 11:45 |
@wiking | or 30 secs | 11:45 |
@HeikoS | wiking: ubuntu & flash ...... issues | 11:45 |
@HeikoS | wiking: but installing | 11:45 |
@wiking | HeikoS: hehehe | 11:46 |
@wiking | i wonder why facebook does not allow html | 11:46 |
@wiking | *html5 | 11:46 |
@wiking | ok | 11:46 |
@wiking | here's utube | 11:46 |
@wiking | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GvbevUMAjo | 11:46 |
@wiking | u can watch that html5 | 11:47 |
@wiking | w/o flash | 11:47 |
@HeikoS | haha dude | 11:48 |
@HeikoS | amazing | 11:48 |
@HeikoS | i left my washing machine turned on at home :D | 11:49 |
@wiking | lol | 11:49 |
@wiking | we'll have our very own video then :P | 11:49 |
@wiking | btw didn;t know that gunnar is from the east as well :) | 11:50 |
@wiking | HeikoS: it's only u then from the german team that is from west ;P | 11:51 |
@wiking | right? | 11:51 |
@wiking | btw: i wish i was in berlin last weekend :PPPPP | 11:51 |
@HeikoS | yeah | 11:51 |
@HeikoS | wiking: what was going on? | 11:51 |
@wiking | i reckon there was 0 sober ppl during this weekend in the city | 11:51 |
@HeikoS | i am proper west germany | 11:51 |
@HeikoS | cologne | 11:51 |
@wiking | HeikoS: you know 25 years of the wall ;P | 11:51 |
@HeikoS | but thats a decade ago | 11:51 |
@HeikoS | wiking: never heard | 11:51 |
shogun-buildbot | build #923 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed doc] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/923 | 11:51 |
shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 16m20s] | 11:51 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 11:51 |
@wiking | HeikoS: rotfl :D | 11:51 |
@wiking | HeikoS: yesterday was the 25 years aniversary that the wall came down | 11:52 |
@HeikoS | wiking: yeah I know ;) just did not know you meant that | 11:52 |
@HeikoS | wish I was there too | 11:52 |
@HeikoS | wish I was there in the 90s | 11:52 |
@HeikoS | amazing time amazing place | 11:52 |
@wiking | heheheh | 11:52 |
@wiking | last time i was for the 1st of may celebration | 11:53 |
@wiking | jesus :D | 11:53 |
@HeikoS | ha | 11:55 |
@HeikoS | thats nice there | 11:55 |
@HeikoS | should try hamburg for that | 11:55 |
@HeikoS | its so fun its almost scary | 11:55 |
@HeikoS | wiking: btw where can I see whether the ppa worked? which build? | 11:55 |
@wiking | HeikoS: no build | 11:55 |
@wiking | i need to merge in still the /debian thingy | 11:55 |
@HeikoS | ok | 11:56 |
@HeikoS | wiking: should I already put link in NEWS? | 11:56 |
@wiking | mm yeah definitely | 11:56 |
@HeikoS | cool | 11:56 |
@HeikoS | wiking: any other things to put that you did? currently updating | 11:56 |
@HeikoS | swig3 support? :D | 11:57 |
@wiking | mmm yeah that could be it | 11:57 |
@wiking | will be in soon | 11:57 |
@wiking | updating c# interface for mono 3.x | 11:57 |
@HeikoS | wiking: https://launchpad.net/shogun | 11:59 |
@HeikoS | is that us? | 11:59 |
@wiking | noup | 11:59 |
@HeikoS | kind of had in mind yours is different | 11:59 |
@wiking | ah yeah it is | 11:59 |
@wiking | but it's owned by soeren :D | 11:59 |
@HeikoS | where is yours again? | 11:59 |
@wiking | https://launchpad.net/~shogun-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 12:00 |
@HeikoS | wiking: btw this colpack dependency ..... | 12:08 |
@HeikoS | wiking: kind of annoying for the binary, do you think maybe we should exclude the log-det stuff | 12:08 |
@HeikoS | ? | 12:08 |
@wiking | well i mean if you add 1 ppa | 12:08 |
@wiking | you can add 2 | 12:08 |
@wiking | ;) | 12:08 |
@HeikoS | wiking: and how will this nightly thing work? will some build upload a package? or does launchpad have their own distribution | 12:09 |
@HeikoS | wiking: you are right :) | 12:09 |
@wiking | well that's the thing | 12:09 |
@wiking | i was working on generating the package itself | 12:09 |
@wiking | but then it came out that ppa just needs the rule files + src targz-ed | 12:09 |
@wiking | and ubuntu's build system will create the packages itself | 12:09 |
@HeikoS | i see | 12:10 |
@HeikoS | thats nice right? | 12:10 |
@wiking | yeah | 12:11 |
@HeikoS | - Fixes for SWIG3 [Viktor Gal] | 12:11 |
@HeikoS | - Fixes for C# and Mono3 | 12:11 |
@HeikoS | - New nightly *binary* build for Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/~shogun-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [Viktor Gal] | 12:11 |
@HeikoS | anything else? | 12:11 |
@wiking | nou | 12:12 |
@HeikoS | ok cool, Ill put it in now ...or shall I wait? whats the ETA? | 12:13 |
@wiking | this week | 12:13 |
@HeikoS | wiking: I guess we should delete https://launchpad.net/shogun ? | 12:13 |
@HeikoS | its confusing to have two | 12:13 |
@HeikoS | wiking: ok Ill send a PR and merge it once you are done :) | 12:14 |
@wiking | cool | 12:14 |
shogun-buildbot | Hey! build nightly_all #809 is complete: Success [build successful] | 12:16 |
shogun-buildbot | Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_all/builds/809 | 12:16 |
USC | I just want to say something to you guys | 12:45 |
USC | KILL shogun | 12:45 |
USC | BEAT shogun to death | 12:45 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 12:45 |
@HeikoS | haha | 12:46 |
@HeikoS | shogun-buildbot force build "nightly_default" | 12:47 |
@HeikoS | gentle | 12:47 |
USC | yeah HeikoS, I want to kill shogun gently | 12:48 |
@lisitsyn | sounds good | 12:48 |
@HeikoS | USC: thats what we are trying to do for some time now, but the beast just wont die | 12:48 |
@HeikoS | shogun-buildbot, force build "nightly_default" | 12:49 |
shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 12:49 |
@lisitsyn | USC: would you kill it by your stupidity or you prefer any other way? | 12:49 |
@HeikoS | shogun-buildbot, force shogun "must die" | 12:49 |
shogun-buildbot | try 'force build [--branch=BRANCH] [--revision=REVISION] [--props=PROP1=VAL1,PROP2=VAL2...] <WHICH> <REASON>' | 12:49 |
USC | lisitsyn: I'm not stupid, but the team behind shogun.. | 12:50 |
@lisitsyn | USC: prove it ;) | 12:50 |
@wiking | :D | 12:51 |
@wiking | hahahah | 12:51 |
@wiking | awesome | 12:51 |
USC | knowing how to use linux doesn't mean smart, if it is not smart, it is stupid | 12:51 |
@lisitsyn | yeah sure we are just monkeys that learnt how to use linux | 12:51 |
@lisitsyn | but your proof has some flaws yet | 12:52 |
@HeikoS | USC: sorry for redirecting you, the thing is that we have way too much work than time, so if we can we tell people to read the docs as it saves us time to help with shogun questions | 12:52 |
@wiking | USC: i seriously reckon you should reiterate your thoughts before writing them down... | 12:53 |
@wiking | if u came here to insult people then please leave | 12:53 |
USC | if you were smart enough, you would be able to create a software not a bunch of files | 12:53 |
USC | lisitsyn: start it, read the chat above | 12:53 |
@wiking | all of us works hard on this project for years... in our spare time | 12:53 |
@lisitsyn | so you imply that any cmake based software is just a bunch of files :D | 12:54 |
USC | wiking: lisitsyn started this converstation, he has to apologize | 12:54 |
@wiking | and you coming it here and start insulting people is not the most decent things to say | 12:54 |
@lisitsyn | I have to what? :D | 12:54 |
@wiking | USC: are you like 8? | 12:54 |
USC | no I'm just 4, will be 5 in 4 months | 12:54 |
@wiking | i mean dont get wme wrong it would be awesome | 12:54 |
@wiking | if you'd be 8 and want to use shogun | 12:55 |
@wiking | :D | 12:55 |
@wiking | but i seriously doubt that | 12:55 |
@lisitsyn | yeah absolutely | 12:55 |
@lisitsyn | you would be younger than shogun itself | 12:55 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 12:55 |
USC | how old are you wiking ? | 12:55 |
@wiking | 33 | 12:55 |
@wiking | about to be | 12:55 |
USC | when I become 8, you will be still trying to develop shogun, | 12:55 |
@wiking | mmm | 12:55 |
@wiking | ok so let's make something clear | 12:56 |
@wiking | have u came here to troll? | 12:56 |
USC | no | 12:56 |
@wiking | ok | 12:56 |
@wiking | then please stop | 12:56 |
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USC | I just want to say that you need be respectful to the people who're trying to use shogun, you can't call them stupid | 12:57 |
USC | I have never seen ubuntu or cgywin or others before | 12:58 |
@HeikoS | USC: actio re-actio, lets drop the subject and talk about constructive things | 12:58 |
@lisitsyn | hah so you want to turn it like we just insult you for nothing | 12:58 |
@HeikoS | USC: that is fine, as I said, we are happy to help you, but we cannot help you with basic linux questions, there are other places for this | 12:59 |
USC | do you see lisitsyn? he is not happy | 12:59 |
@wiking | usc fyi there are other fine machine learning libraries you could use on your machine | 13:00 |
@wiking | nobody is forcing you to use shogun | 13:00 |
@lisitsyn | stop playing victim you started this thing on kill shogun :D | 13:00 |
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@lisitsyn | I had enough vodka today to answer this :D | 13:01 |
@wiking | i reckon we had the most action here ever since august :D | 13:02 |
USC | it was just a joke, vodka is killing your brain if you have it already | 13:02 |
@wiking | USC: pleaase try to avoid going into personal things and just stick to the questions of shogun.. thnx heaps | 13:03 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 13:03 |
@HeikoS | gotta go, cu guys | 13:04 |
@wiking | cya | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | ah | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | wiking, lisitsyn | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | stammtisch? | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | tonight? | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | can you make this? | 13:04 |
USC | can I ask a question about shogun project? | 13:04 |
@lisitsyn | doesn't work for me it seems | 13:04 |
@lisitsyn | USC: absolutely :D | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: ok, wiking? | 13:04 |
@wiking | HeikoS: not me... its way to late | 13:04 |
@wiking | i'm GMT+8 | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | wiking: ok, whats the last time you can justify | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | ? | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | we should get those meetings going again | 13:05 |
@wiking | well 1am here.. which is 6pm there | 13:05 |
@wiking | 6pm CET | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | ok | 13:05 |
@wiking | i.e. 5pm GMT | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | I will be back at 6 then | 13:05 |
@lisitsyn | it would work for me but not today it seems | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | ah | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | 5 | 13:05 |
@HeikoS | ok | 13:05 |
@wiking | HeikoS: yeah it's way to early | 13:05 |
@wiking | but tooday i told you | 13:06 |
@wiking | that i'm having | 13:06 |
@wiking | the dataincubator thing | 13:06 |
@wiking | so i'm like nogo | 13:06 |
@HeikoS | wiking, lisitsyn ok I will just do the meeting on my own, and then pretend it was full so people will com enext time ;) | 13:06 |
@HeikoS | wiking: ah I see, | 13:06 |
@lisitsyn | hahah | 13:06 |
@HeikoS | good luck with that | 13:06 |
@HeikoS | well ok, see you later | 13:06 |
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USC | can I ask a question about shogun project? | 13:08 |
USC | who is behind it? who is the boss? is he paying you? | 13:09 |
@wiking | it's an open source project that is being developed by volunteers | 13:11 |
@lisitsyn | yeah so wiking wasn't not paid to answer your questions - that's why he was surprised by your demand | 13:15 |
USC | what about a referral system? like libsvm does? | 13:17 |
@lisitsyn | ?? | 13:18 |
@wiking | referral? | 13:18 |
USC | citing in academic articles | 13:18 |
USC | are you all academicians? | 13:18 |
@wiking | some | 13:19 |
USC | wiking: http://imgur.com/3vbfSJC | 13:23 |
USC | can you please check this | 13:23 |
USC | wiking: is it okay? | 13:24 |
@wiking | seems like | 13:25 |
USC | lastly, can you please tell me what do I do now :) | 13:25 |
@lisitsyn | you can now do make install | 13:26 |
@lisitsyn | and use shogun | 13:26 |
USC | I did "make install" | 13:27 |
USC | but how will I run it :) | 13:27 |
@wiking | USC: could you please elaborate why you want to use shogun and for what | 13:28 |
@wiking | please not that this is really not a machine learning toolbox for rookies | 13:29 |
@lisitsyn | you've got to write a program that uses shogun | 13:30 |
USC | I want to use shogun's MKLRegression model for prediction | 13:30 |
@lisitsyn | in any of languages we support | 13:30 |
USC | I have 23 dependent 1 independent variable, | 13:31 |
@lisitsyn | why mkl? | 13:31 |
USC | because I tried libsvm with gaussian kernel, the result is not bad but not perfect | 13:32 |
USC | so I want to try multiple kernels to see hopefully better results | 13:32 |
@lisitsyn | please note that shogun is not like libsvm (command line tool) but a library | 13:33 |
@lisitsyn | you'd have to read your data create objects etc | 13:33 |
@wiking | so you would need to implement the whole thing using one of the supported languages | 13:34 |
@wiking | (c++, python, ruby, java etc) | 13:34 |
@wiking | there's no ./mkl-train <data> | 13:34 |
@wiking | USC: check out the examples | 13:35 |
USC | thank you very much | 13:35 |
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@lisitsyn | wiking: nesterov as of nesterov method is here at ya today | 13:56 |
@lisitsyn | should be fun :D | 13:57 |
@wiking | :> | 13:59 |
@wiking | cool | 13:59 |
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shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 15:04 |
shogun-buildbot | build #924 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed doc] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/924 | 15:08 |
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@wiking | HeikoS: look at your inbox! | 16:53 |
@wiking | quote | 16:55 |
@wiking | "From an algorithmic point of view, the computational cost associated with the calcula- tion of any entry of a nxn covariance matrix using a path-sum is known to be O(n) on trees," | 16:55 |
@wiking | "The O(n) complexity is achieved for the most general situation; if J or G has symmetries, the complexity would be lower. Evaluating the complexity of the path-sum approach on a graph with an arbitrary topology remains an open problem. Since the method of path-sums arises from exact resummations on walk-sums, every problem that has a walk-sum interpretation is susceptible to these resummations and therefore admits a path-sum expression. Consequently, ev | 16:56 |
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@wiking | HeikoS: arxiv.org/abs/1410.7165 | 17:12 |
@HeikoS | wiking: checking | 17:15 |
@HeikoS | wiking: one sentence summary? | 17:15 |
@wiking | awesomeness | 17:15 |
@HeikoS | haha :) | 17:15 |
@HeikoS | cool will read soon | 17:15 |
@wiking | was just published in jmlr | 17:16 |
@wiking | i have contacts to the authors | 17:16 |
@wiking | so if u want to collaborate with them | 17:16 |
@wiking | let me know | 17:16 |
@wiking | we for sure should put this into shogun | 17:16 |
@wiking | ;) | 17:16 |
@wiking | maybe lisitsyn's bsc student? | 17:17 |
@HeikoS | wiking: yeah sounds good | 17:17 |
@HeikoS | wiking: always good to have some more gsoc or other project proposals in pipeline | 17:17 |
@wiking | mmm | 17:18 |
@lisitsyn | lisitsyn: I don't really understand a word :D | 17:19 |
@wiking | lisitsyn: hehehe | 17:20 |
@wiking | lisitsyn: arxiv.org/abs/1410.7165 | 17:20 |
@lisitsyn | oh that didn't help | 17:21 |
@wiking | lol | 17:21 |
@lisitsyn | let me try to open it third time | 17:21 |
@lisitsyn | ahh now I got it | 17:21 |
@lisitsyn | :D | 17:21 |
naywhayare | HeikoS: do you have that picture from the summit? :) | 17:21 |
@wiking | "We show that the path-sum formulation formulation is valid for arbitrary partitions of the inverse covariance matrix" | 17:21 |
@wiking | lisitsyn: so basically super nice algo for GP | 17:21 |
@lisitsyn | wiking: some greek letters | 17:22 |
@wiking | lisitsyn: whaaat :D | 17:22 |
@wiking | bad encoding? :d | 17:22 |
@lisitsyn | wiking: yeah my decoder is broken | 17:23 |
@lisitsyn | that one in my brain | 17:23 |
@wiking | aaah lol | 17:23 |
@wiking | eah man it's 00:23 here | 17:23 |
@wiking | and i'm waiting now to be talking about some bs | 17:23 |
@wiking | to like 5 ppl | 17:23 |
@wiking | so imagine me :D | 17:23 |
* wiking braindead | 17:23 | |
@lisitsyn | haha | 17:24 |
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@iglesiasg | HeikoS: having a look at the notebooks issue atm | 17:37 |
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@iglesiasg | HeikoS: it seems that some errors are actually coming from the #ifndef SWIG we introduced during the summit, not from the more recent drop of sin, cos, etc | 17:38 |
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mrbelt | hey there, this noob has a question for you | 18:09 |
mrbelt | how would you use backwards elimination or forward selection inside cross-validation? i really can't find any examples out there | 18:10 |
mrbelt | i'm using the python modular interface, BTW | 18:10 |
@iglesiasg | mrbelt: randomising the mechanism that chooses the order in which predicted variables are selected? | 18:28 |
@iglesiasg | mrbelt: I have no experience on doing it though. Just a random idea :) | 18:29 |
@HeikoS | naywhayare: yes I have it, will send an email | 18:33 |
@HeikoS | naywhayare: email? | 18:35 |
@HeikoS | wiking: hope it went well! | 18:35 |
@HeikoS | iglesiasg: yeah, its from calling hidding methods | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | mrbelt: hi | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | mrbelt: the person to ask would be lambday | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | mrbelt: this is new stuff so no examples, BUT it should work | 18:36 |
@HeikoS | mrbelt: we looked at this issues and I think solved it | 18:37 |
@HeikoS | mrbelt: I guess you are talking about variable selection? | 18:37 |
@HeikoS | mrbelt: details please (maybe mailing list might be good) | 18:37 |
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@iglesiasg | lisitsyn: from being troncate, that made me laugh for real, man :D | 19:18 |
@iglesiasg | troncato* | 19:18 |
@iglesiasg | HeikoS: I am making set_const and another one visible to interfaces again to fix the notebooks. It is not a nice solution but it gets a bit problematic when we are dealing with public attributes that are SGVector since typemaps are not coming into play then | 19:21 |
@iglesiasg | shogun-buildbot, force build --branch=develop "nightly_all" | 19:33 |
shogun-buildbot | build forced [ETA 20m17s] | 19:33 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 19:33 |
@iglesiasg | shogun-buildbot, force build --branch=develop "nightly_default" | 19:33 |
shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 19:34 |
@iglesiasg | HeikoS: not sure if you forgot --branch=develop before or wanted to build master ;) | 19:34 |
shogun-buildbot | Hey! build nightly_all #810 is complete: Success [build successful] | 19:40 |
shogun-buildbot | Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_all/builds/810 | 19:40 |
shogun-buildbot | build #925 forced | 19:40 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 19:40 |
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shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 31fe969 / src/shogun/lib/SGVector.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/31fe969798a532c093c7cab917c44ab94aad67b2 | 19:49 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: SGVector::set_const and ::get visible to SWIG again. | 19:49 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: To fix failing notebooks. | 19:49 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * c1e9018 / src/shogun/lib/SGVector.h: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/c1e90187dc619372db519a510809369f27115676 | 19:49 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: Merge pull request #2612 from iglesias/develop | 19:49 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: | 19:49 |
shogun-notifier- | shogun: SGVector::set_const and ::get visible to SWIG again. | 19:49 |
@iglesiasg | shogun-buildbot, force build --branch=develop "nightly_default" | 19:49 |
shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 19:49 |
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mrbelt | iglesiasg: I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the methods in CFeatureSelection | 19:53 |
mrbelt | HeikoS: Yep, that's it. I'll get in contact with him/go to the mailing list | 19:54 |
mrbelt | iglesiasg,HeikoS: Thanks for the tips guys :) | 19:54 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #925 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/925 | 20:21 |
shogun-buildbot | build #926 forced | 20:21 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 20:21 |
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travis-ci | it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/40574304 | 20:41 |
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@iglesiasg | shogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop "nightly_default" | 23:32 |
shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 23:32 |
shogun-buildbot | build #926 of nightly_default is complete: Failure [failed notebooks] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_default/builds/926 | 23:33 |
@iglesiasg | ouch, I think it was already working on another build. My bad. | 23:33 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #927 forced | 23:52 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 23:52 |
shogun-buildbot | build #884 of precise - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/precise%20-%20libshogun/builds/884 blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com> | 23:54 |
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travis-ci | it's Fernando Iglesias's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: http://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/40574304 | 23:58 |
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