IRC logs of #shogun for Tuesday, 2015-03-17

--- Log opened Tue Mar 17 00:00:02 2015
@HeikoSgot an all fancy new cms of my site00:00
@lisitsynHeikoS: oh cool00:00
@HeikoSnow can put up drafts to get feedback before I publish00:00
@HeikoSdesign is not yet completely done, it will look prettier00:00
@lisitsynHeikoS: your work?00:00
@lisitsynahh its wordpress ;)00:01
@HeikoSthe page or the article ;)00:01
@HeikoShaha00:01
@HeikoSyes00:01
@HeikoSBut I installed it myself00:01
@lisitsynI thought you made brand new thing ;)00:01
@lisitsynHeikoS: did you glance over my notes?00:02
@lisitsynI am not sure if they are useful or just small details00:02
@lisitsyn;)00:02
@HeikoSI did read them00:04
@HeikoSI think I will take most of them actually00:04
@HeikoSin next revision00:04
@HeikoSIll wait for ICML reviews to come in before I touch it00:04
@HeikoSotherwise I have to touch it again ;)00:04
@lisitsynI see00:05
@HeikoSIm workig on somethign else also that currently needs my attention00:10
@HeikoSI hope to get it to a good state before I have to dive into debiasing again00:10
@lisitsynHeikoS: I wanted to know how can I use that for my stuff00:10
@lisitsyndidn't realize how :)00:11
@HeikoSwhat do you want to do?00:11
@HeikoSlisitsyn: ah the pca thing right?00:13
@lisitsynHeikoS: for example00:13
@lisitsyn;)00:13
@lisitsynyeah00:13
@lisitsynHeikoS: well I work with some data and so on00:13
@HeikoSthis thing allows you to trade off sub-sampling bias against increased variance00:14
@HeikoSif you have an estimator that uses all data00:14
@HeikoSyou can get the same answer with this debiasing, without using all data00:14
@HeikoSbut only subsets00:14
@HeikoSdepending on how much redundancy is in the data00:14
@lisitsynHeikoS: yeah but the procedure is not really clear for me00:17
@lisitsynwhat subsets should I take etc00:17
@HeikoSrandom is ok00:17
@HeikoSand always double their size00:18
@HeikoSthen compute your method on them00:18
@HeikoSstore result00:18
@HeikoSand then average using the telescoping sum estimator00:18
@lisitsynHeikoS: so its pretty generic, right?00:20
@HeikoSyes00:21
@HeikoSbut it only works in presence of redundancy00:21
@lisitsynHeikoS: I guess for PCA one should start with number of dimensions00:22
@HeikoSquestion in PCA is what you estimate00:22
@HeikoSbut yeah one could imagine estimating principal component00:22
@HeikoSactually, thats a cool experiment to do00:22
@lisitsynI though of projection error00:22
@lisitsynthought*00:22
@HeikoSnot sure how to cast that as an estimation problem over subsets of the data00:23
@lisitsynHeikoS: ahh I got it00:23
@lisitsynHeikoS: it should be done other way I guess00:24
@lisitsynone should estimate telescoping for covariance matrix00:24
@lisitsynright?00:24
@HeikoSno rather for say largest eigenvalue00:24
@HeikoSof covriance00:24
@HeikoSof top rank PC00:24
@lisitsynhmm is it robust?00:24
@HeikoSI dont know00:25
@HeikoSwould have to try this as an experiment00:25
@HeikoSI think I will try this00:25
@lisitsynwhat about ratio of the largest eigenvalue to the smallest one?00:25
@lisitsynHeikoS: I got to show you a pic00:25
@lisitsynHeikoS: check gmail00:26
@HeikoSI have this open but where to look?00:26
@lisitsynHeikoS: sent you direct message00:27
@HeikoSvideo?00:27
@lisitsynHeikoS: hmm no it is a picture00:27
@lisitsynHeikoS: didn't it arrive?00:28
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shogun-notifier-shogun: Wu Lin :develop * b4454de / src/shogun/ (9 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b4454de3c6a0687a26e4c4dc7d8b0cc8aa92b71f00:28
shogun-notifier-shogun: add the FITC framework 200:28
shogun-notifier-shogun: Heiko Strathmann :develop * 87af351 / src/shogun/ (9 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/87af351ff421508869c9cf70db14d8106f6281ee00:28
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2767 from yorkerlin/develop00:28
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shogun-notifier-shogun: add the FITC framework200:28
@HeikoSI got this giant album thing via google talk00:29
@HeikoSbut no mail00:29
@lisitsynHeikoS: album thing?00:30
@HeikoSI did not get anemail00:30
@HeikoSresend00:30
@lisitsynHeikoS: no mail, direct message00:30
@lisitsynvia hangouts00:31
@HeikoSyes00:31
@HeikoSgot that00:31
@lisitsynthere is a cloud of pics00:31
@lisitsyn;)00:31
@HeikoSwhat is it00:31
@HeikoSyes00:31
@lisitsynthat's one thing I got recently00:31
@lisitsynsome features for various things like watches, bikes00:31
@lisitsynsimilar things come together here :)00:31
@lisitsynHeikoS: can you see structure? :)00:32
@HeikoSyeah, cool00:32
@HeikoSwhat is that?00:32
@lisitsynHeikoS: my job00:33
@lisitsyn:D00:33
@lisitsynHeikoS: or you mean anything else?00:33
@HeikoSthat what you do?00:34
@HeikoSlisitsyn: Ill go to bed now00:36
@HeikoSgood night00:36
shogun-buildbotbuild #2674 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2674  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com>00:39
@lisitsynHeikoS: alright00:40
@lisitsynsee you then!00:40
@lisitsynget well soon00:40
shogun-buildbotbuild #203 of FC20 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FC20%20-%20libshogun/builds/20300:42
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shogun-buildbotbuild #619 of deb4 - python3 is complete: Failure [failed test python modular]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb4%20-%20python3/builds/619  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com>01:30
shogun-buildbotbuild #864 of nightly_none is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/nightly_none/builds/864  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Wu Lin <yorker.lin@gmail.com>03:02
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@lisitsynHeikoS: I am at andrea vedaldi talk now :)17:02
@lisitsyncool guest here17:03
@HeikoSlisitsyn: cool17:04
@HeikoShow com ehe is in russia?17:04
@HeikoSlisitsyn: were they also bought by deepmind as the rest of oxford? :)17:10
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shogun-notifier-shogun: jiaolong_x220 :develop * d631aa5 / / (10 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d631aa515f3933d3b571e71389117388aa750bd118:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: added GEMPLP18:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * 59868dc / / (10 files): https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/59868dc344f46c6cc01b3bba9cc7cd5018c4533d18:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Merge pull request #2706 from Jiaolong/GEMPLP18:14
shogun-notifier-shogun:18:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: added GEMPLP18:14
shogun-notifier-shogun: Fernando Iglesias :develop * b4cf8bf / NEWS: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b4cf8bfb360c5b74a2d0ca922e8c6be67ee4559d18:17
shogun-notifier-shogun: Update NEWS18:17
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shogun-notifier-shogun: GEMPLP by Jiaolong.18:17
shogun-buildbotbuild #251 of trusty - libshogun - viennacl is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/trusty%20-%20libshogun%20-%20viennacl/builds/251  blamelist: Fernando Iglesias <fernando.iglesiasg@gmail.com>18:22
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@lisitsynHeikoS: invited by yandex18:35
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