IRC logs of #shogun for Friday, 2015-11-06

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--- Log opened Fri Nov 06 00:00:35 2015
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@wiking woah buildbot was down :(12:27
lisitsynwiking: hey12:36
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lisitsynHeikoS: hey again12:48
lisitsynsup?12:49
@HeikoSlisitsyn:12:49
@HeikoSjojo12:49
@HeikoSall good?12:49
lisitsynHeikoS: yeap12:49
lisitsynHeikoS: hope to do some stuff @ nips12:49
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yeah me too!12:49
@HeikoSWu will come too12:50
lisitsynwell if everything goes ok with visa and stuff12:50
lisitsyn:)12:50
@HeikoScome to the big monte carlo workshop!12:50
lisitsynyeah sure12:50
lisitsynHeikoS: I've been studying mcmc lately a bit12:50
@HeikoSlisitsyn: cool12:50
@HeikoSand?12:50
lisitsynsounds very cool12:50
lisitsynhave you seen that bayesian methods for hackers book?12:51
lisitsynit actually almost converted me to bayesian12:51
lisitsynlike another religion haha12:51
@HeikoSyeah I know this one12:51
@HeikoShaha12:51
@HeikoSwell12:51
@HeikoStools12:51
@HeikoSits all tools12:51
lisitsyntrue12:52
lisitsynHeikoS: but its pretty hard to be multitool12:52
@HeikoSlisitsyn: so what are you looking at?12:52
@HeikoSlisitsyn: true true12:52
@HeikoSBayesian is just the most principled thing in theory12:52
@HeikoSbut then computation comes into game and everything changes12:52
lisitsynHeikoS: I am actually interested in moving bayesian neural nets into shogun12:53
lisitsynit sounds like a good mix12:53
@wikinghohohoooo12:54
@HeikoSwiking: hi!12:54
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yeah good idea12:54
@HeikoSlisitsyn: you know what a bayesian neural network is?12:55
@HeikoSlisitsyn: a gaussian process !!!!12:55
lisitsynhaha12:55
@HeikoSso DONE :)12:55
@wiking:DDDD12:55
lisitsynwhat about deep?12:55
@HeikoSlisitsyn: deep GPs are nothing useful12:55
@HeikoSyet12:55
lisitsynthere is a few things like12:55
@wikingeeey12:55
@wikingpeople12:55
lisitsynvariational autoencoder12:55
lisitsynand stuff12:55
@wikingi have a matlab12:55
@wikingthing12:55
@wikingfrom Gunnar12:55
lisitsynI am sorry you have a matlab12:55
lisitsyn:D12:55
@wikingso we could test the swig12:56
@wiking:>12:56
lisitsyndetails12:56
lisitsynwhat's the thing?12:56
@wikinga server that has matlab in it officially12:56
@wikingso we can legally use it12:56
lisitsynah12:56
@wikingit has mex and everyting12:56
@wikingbtw fuck12:56
@wikingi'm tired :D12:56
lisitsynI heard you work like a mule12:56
@wikingno12:57
@wikingi'm tired of not having a good cmake12:57
@HeikoSlisitsyn: the variational encoder is cool we should have it12:57
@wikingfor modular interfaces12:57
lisitsynstill!12:57
lisitsynok yeah12:57
@HeikoSwiking: cool!12:57
@wikingbesser82: here?12:57
@HeikoSback in 512:57
@wikingmmm12:58
@wikinglets' pull shogun12:58
@wiking:D12:58
lisitsynwiking: got idea where?12:58
lisitsyn:)12:58
@wiking:D12:58
lisitsynwiking: what's the most difficult12:59
lisitsynthats*12:59
@wikingwhich? pulling :D12:59
lisitsynno deciding where to12:59
@wiking:D13:00
@HeikoSback13:00
@HeikoSwiking: lisitsyn we have agendas for that13:01
@HeikoSsee latest discussion13:01
@HeikoSand GSoC application13:01
@HeikoSwe know what to do13:01
@HeikoSjust have to do it :)13:01
lisitsynhonestly I don't13:01
lisitsynor I pretend to13:01
lisitsynit misses my heart hahah13:01
@wikingwhere what?13:01
@wikingHeikoS: what is the agenda?13:02
@wikinghave a fake url? :D13:02
@HeikoSnot written, but see the email that Wu wrote13:02
@HeikoSand the GSoC13:02
@HeikoSapplication13:02
@HeikoSin wiki13:02
@wikingaaha that email13:02
@wikingi remember13:02
@wikingi flagged it to read it13:02
@wiking:D13:02
@wikingwhen i have time13:02
@wikinghaven't got around to read it yet :(13:03
@HeikoSwe need:13:03
@HeikoS-documentation13:03
@HeikoS-installation13:03
@HeikoS-internal cleanups: legacy code, modularisation, testing framework, linalg13:03
@HeikoSvery clear what is most important13:03
@wikingheheh the linalg should be a separate library13:03
@HeikoSlisitsyn 's new parameter framework13:03
@HeikoSlisitsyn 's ideas for modularisation13:03
@HeikoSsolves lot of swig issues13:03
@HeikoSthe new web manual solves documentation13:04
lisitsynoh its quite a lot13:04
@HeikoSthe new buildbot will solve easy installation on all platforms13:04
@wikingnew buildbot?13:04
@HeikoSlinag makes things more efficient13:04
@wikingwhat lisitsyn 's ideas for modularisation ?13:04
@HeikoSwiking: we ordered one last year remember?13:04
@wikingHeikoS: you mean hedonism bot?13:04
@HeikoSwanted to run matlab and stuff on it13:04
@HeikoSyeah13:04
@wikingi'm maintaining it13:04
@wikingand we are using it13:04
@wiking:)13:04
@HeikoSthen the base class insanity etc13:05
@wikingfor building a lot of shit on it13:05
@HeikoSwiking: I know, so thats good13:05
@wikingthat's where most of the buildslaves are running13:05
@wikingwhat modularization?13:05
@HeikoSJust what I mean is we have very concrete things to do and know what is important13:05
@HeikoSwiking: shogun as modules13:05
@wikingah that's a very old idea13:05
@wiking:D13:05
@HeikoSrather than monolitic, your gsoc project last ear13:05
@HeikoSwiking: it is13:05
@wikinglike 3 gsoc away minimum13:05
@HeikoSbut still havent done it13:05
@wikingyeah :D13:05
@wikingtime and money13:05
@wikingbtw13:06
@HeikoSit would be good to make Shognu a very slim library and have modules on top13:06
@HeikoSpull the swig stuff out13:06
@wikingcan i donate to shogun eV13:06
@wiking??13:06
@HeikoSwiking: yeah you can13:06
@wikingok good lemme know how13:06
@HeikoSwhen I am in German ynext, I will register it, we are charitable already13:06
@wikingand the servers should be13:06
@HeikoSwiking: january13:06
@wikingtransferred under that ev13:06
@wikingor?13:06
@wikingbecause now sonney2k_ takes care there about things13:07
@wikingi saw his amazing house :)13:07
@HeikoSah cool!13:07
@HeikoSwiking: I have a good feeling13:07
@HeikoSalso lambday might do an internship at Gatsby13:07
@wikingheheh tired of oracle?13:08
@HeikoSdont know13:08
@HeikoShaha13:08
@HeikoSI want to push this manual thing13:08
@HeikoSit is quite cool13:08
@HeikoSand sergey should push the module stuff13:08
@HeikoSor the parameters at least13:09
@HeikoSand if we pull pout the swig as a sep. project then we have achieved a lot13:09
@HeikoScan move to efficiency then13:09
@HeikoSnew gsoc also coming13:09
lisitsynI can't yet decide13:10
lisitsynhow to do modularization13:10
@HeikoSlisitsyn: maybe the aer first13:10
lisitsynseparate library?13:10
@wikingfugck13:11
@wikingi told you13:11
@wikingeasy13:11
@wikinggstreamer13:11
@wikingthey do it the best possible way i saw it13:11
@wikingand they achieve that thing with simple c :D13:11
@HeikoSlisitsyn: yes13:12
@HeikoSso that others can use it (including me for my research code)13:12
@HeikoSscientists would be so happy aobut that13:12
@HeikoSwiking: what about matlab and swig?13:12
@HeikoShttps://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline13:12
@HeikoSok gotta leave now, but will hang out in irc a bit soon13:12
lisitsyngstreamer?13:12
lisitsynnever heard you said that wiking ;)13:13
lisitsynor don't remember13:13
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@wikinghttp://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/13:23
@wikingit's a fully modularized media fw13:23
lisitsynwiking: so what do they use?13:26
lisitsynC api?13:26
@wikingy13:26
lisitsynwell13:26
lisitsynit is quite error prone you know13:27
@wikingheheh that thing works like a charm13:27
@wikingits well designed13:27
@wikingwe can learn from it13:28
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@besser82wiking, ping?14:16
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