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@HeikoS | wiking: ping! | 12:45 |
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@wiking | HeikoS: pong pong | 12:46 |
@HeikoS | wiking: saw rahuls email? | 12:47 |
@wiking | yep | 12:47 |
@wiking | it'll take longer time to answer that | 12:47 |
@HeikoS | wiking: I would love to reach a conclusion there | 12:47 |
@wiking | heheh | 12:47 |
@wiking | we are very different in approach | 12:47 |
@wiking | "two different binaries of Shogun" | 12:48 |
@wiking | this is a total fucking bullshit | 12:48 |
@wiking | :) | 12:48 |
@HeikoS | well please make suggestions | 12:48 |
@HeikoS | the current situation is not good as things are neither decided nor optimal | 12:48 |
@wiking | yeah | 12:49 |
@wiking | but rushing things | 12:49 |
@wiking | will not amke things better either | 12:49 |
@wiking | :))) | 12:49 |
@HeikoS | I dont want to rush, I want to progress | 12:49 |
@HeikoS | I want to avoid stalling | 12:49 |
@HeikoS | quite a difference | 12:49 |
@wiking | aws? | 12:49 |
@wiking | website? | 12:49 |
@wiking | :) | 12:49 |
@wiking | e.v? | 12:49 |
@wiking | :) | 12:49 |
@wiking | llalaa | 12:49 |
@HeikoS | lets stay on linalg for a second | 12:50 |
@wiking | let's try to do more things at a time | 12:50 |
@wiking | :) | 12:50 |
@wiking | we are more than 1 person | 12:50 |
@HeikoS | as I said, it would be good to conclude something for that | 12:51 |
@HeikoS | otherwise the discussion was pointless | 12:51 |
@wiking | no it's not pointless | 12:51 |
@wiking | but it takes time | 12:51 |
@HeikoS | sure sure | 12:51 |
@HeikoS | thats fine | 12:51 |
@HeikoS | but this pattern we have where a suggestion just gets blocked and then *nothing* happens is not helpful as well | 12:51 |
@wiking | well | 12:52 |
@wiking | when the suggestion | 12:52 |
@wiking | is really bad | 12:52 |
@HeikoS | so what I want to get at is what the way forwarrd here is | 12:52 |
@wiking | what else do you expect? | 12:52 |
@wiking | :) | 12:52 |
@HeikoS | the suggestion is to discuss | 12:52 |
@wiking | i'm sorry i dont want to hurt anybody's feeling | 12:52 |
@wiking | but this is a mediocre suggestion | 12:52 |
@wiking | on a bigger problem | 12:52 |
@wiking | nothing personal | 12:52 |
@HeikoS | yes all fine | 12:52 |
@HeikoS | but what is better? | 12:52 |
@HeikoS | how to do it | 12:53 |
@HeikoS | this is what we need | 12:53 |
@HeikoS | technical discussion that is constructive | 12:53 |
@HeikoS | even if we just progress in design, that is helpful | 12:53 |
@wiking | ok | 12:54 |
@wiking | then first of all | 12:54 |
@wiking | let's act as an open source library | 12:54 |
@wiking | and not a hidden thing | 12:54 |
@wiking | so i'll CC my answer to shogun@mailinglist | 12:54 |
@wiking | because it's a bit of awkward to do design decisions | 12:54 |
@wiking | in an open source library | 12:54 |
@wiking | behind the scence | 12:54 |
@wiking | *scene | 12:54 |
@wiking | i mean are we deliberately not using the fact that we are opensource? | 12:55 |
@wiking | ie rely on external 'help' | 12:55 |
@HeikoS | dude what are you talking about? :D | 12:55 |
@wiking | that email | 12:55 |
@HeikoS | I just wanted to push the email thread a biut | 12:55 |
@wiking | yes | 12:55 |
@wiking | me too | 12:55 |
@wiking | :) | 12:55 |
@HeikoS | however you think it is best | 12:56 |
@wiking | and it was my fault | 12:56 |
@wiking | in the first place | 12:56 |
@wiking | that i did not start this on shogun@ | 12:56 |
@HeikoS | I care more *that*...not so much *how* | 12:56 |
@HeikoS | so yeah lets make it publixc | 12:56 |
@HeikoS | but that is not my point here | 12:56 |
@HeikoS | but just some detail | 12:56 |
@wiking | mmm | 12:57 |
@wiking | fuck | 12:57 |
@wiking | we are forbidden do talk about gsoc | 12:57 |
@wiking | publicly | 12:57 |
@wiking | right? | 12:57 |
@HeikoS | only # and who | 12:58 |
@HeikoS | not that | 12:58 |
@HeikoS | "that" | 12:58 |
@HeikoS | also we can say which projects have priority, we already did that | 12:58 |
@wiking | " In absence of an alternative idea, I'd say we go on with option 1 for now" | 13:00 |
@wiking | fuck | 13:00 |
@wiking | you cannot do things like this :) | 13:00 |
@wiking | i mean a) either you do it put the patch there and that's it | 13:00 |
@wiking | b) discuss | 13:00 |
@wiking | now this halfway between a and b | 13:00 |
@wiking | is bs bingo | 13:00 |
@HeikoS | how to do it? | 13:02 |
@HeikoS | we have had so many discussions in this pattern | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | suggestion -> bullshit -> question for alternative -> nothing happens .... | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | annoying | 13:04 |
@HeikoS | just calling bullshit all the time is not really helpful, better suggestions would be helpful | 13:05 |
@wiking | :) | 13:06 |
@wiking | but it is still bullshit | 13:06 |
@wiking | and sorry | 13:06 |
@wiking | but unfortunately | 13:07 |
@wiking | i have work | 13:07 |
@wiking | so coming up with design is the least of my problems when i touch shogun | 13:08 |
@wiking | wanna fix some fundamental problems | 13:08 |
@wiking | anyhow | 13:08 |
@wiking | just answered | 13:08 |
@wiking | with an actual alternative | 13:08 |
@HeikoS | thanks! | 13:10 |
@HeikoS | I see that, have the same problem here. All I want is to get us avoid being stuck there but use the momentum that somebody actually is working on it. | 13:10 |
lisitsyn | going to check that mail soon as well | 13:37 |
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@HeikoS | wiking: ping again | 16:50 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: hi! | 16:55 |
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