IRC logs of #shogun for Saturday, 2016-05-14

--- Log opened Sat May 14 00:00:55 2016
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@wikingshogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'CentOS7 - libshogun'00:19
shogun-buildbotThe build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts00:19
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@wikingshogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'CentOS7 - libshogun'08:49
shogun-buildbotThe build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts08:50
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lisitsynARGghhh09:24
@wikingwhat09:30
@wiking:)09:30
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@HeikoSarianepaola: hi there12:37
@HeikoSSaurabh7: hi!12:37
@HeikoSwiking: jo12:37
@HeikoSlisitsyn:  jo12:37
@HeikoSSo next week is the last before GSoC starts12:37
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@HeikoSand the current state of the project plans is not satisfying, they are not concrete enough12:38
@HeikoSso everyone needs to put some work into those12:38
leagoetzmorning everyone12:38
@HeikoSwe dont want to be messing around how to solve problems during gsoc, this should all be done now12:38
@HeikoSleagoetz: hi12:39
leagoetzabout to write an email about this. Sunday 16 May is "Check-in", see Wiki12:39
@HeikoSleagoetz: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RtHundU7jVLMKRdVhBDgJzOSzxn1Y_QIDEKlNidxZ6Y/edit?usp=sharing12:40
@HeikoSleagoetz:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eozTFX_mgKx3eXQfQnP07Rxi8GYKfGYdu_qvGpLRnjw/edit?usp=sharing12:40
@HeikoSthese are the docs by the students12:40
@HeikoSviewable for everyone12:41
@HeikoS(not editable I hope)12:41
leagoetzOk, I think every project should have a wiki page where these links can live12:42
leagoetzwill make one12:42
@HeikoSleagoetz: this is a good example of a concrete draft: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/New-parameters-framework-and-plugins12:45
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@HeikoSleagoetz: mile stone for release https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/milestones/Shogun%204.2.0%20-%20Takechi%20Hanpeita13:00
@HeikoSleagoetz: build warnings http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/285313:01
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arianepaolahi HeikoS17:53
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@wikingarianepaola: do you know if it's possible to set the same job for N different buildslaves?18:40
@wikingi mean that i dont want buildbot to run the build on either on of them but on all of them18:40
sanujhello everyone18:43
sanuji got back home today18:43
sanujwiking: can i write a cookbook page on GMM?18:43
@wikingyou have better tasks to do or?18:45
sanujwe need to write one cookbook page before coding period begins18:48
sanujall gsoc students18:48
@wikinghehehe18:48
@wikingbut you need to have things ready for the shogun-base18:48
sanujyes18:48
sanujso if i have to write a cookbook page....is gmm fine?18:49
@wikingsanuj: ask Heiko, he's the boss :)18:49
sanujwiking: okay :)18:49
sanuji will be giving more time to shogun now, since i'm at home....no college work to interrupt (apart from some)18:50
sanuj:)18:50
arianepaolawiking: it is possible to run a set of jobs across a collection of slaves, e.g. run the job for each slave in a list of slaves18:54
arianepaolawiking: though there is probably an option18:54
@wikingarianepaola: how?19:00
@wikingi've prepared a packer template19:01
@wikingfor shogun19:01
@wikingfor fedora, centos, ubuntu, debian19:01
@wikingso actually now we could generate any env/image for building shogun19:01
@wikingi've used to generate the amis for the buildslaves19:01
@wikingand i have a set of steps now19:03
@wikingbut would like to that on all those slaves19:03
@wikingslavenames = [...]19:04
@wikingwill just pick 'randomly' one19:04
sanujwiking: https://gist.github.com/sanuj/56f03cd242473137fad851e68fa0f2c119:04
@wikingeh19:05
sanujwiking: what sort of class diagram is heiko referring to?19:05
@wikingi think heiko went a bit too far19:05
@wikingsanuj: try to see if you can nicely grep out from (code/doxygen whatever) all the classes that are abstract19:06
@wikingi.e. it has at least one pure virtual function19:06
sanujwiking: okay :)19:06
@wikingarianepaola: how the setup.py going?19:07
sanujwiking: which irc client were you talking about?19:11
sanujnow that i'm no longer behind institute http proxy...i can set it up19:12
@wikingsanuj: irsii19:12
@wikingi mean irssi19:12
sanujokay19:12
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CaBais there a way to obtain ROC data after cross validation?22:39
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CaBahi HeikoS23:13
@HeikoSCaBa: hi!23:13
CaBaHeikoS: saturday night hacker, ha? ;)23:17
@HeikoSCaBa: not really23:17
CaBaHeikoS: :)23:17
@HeikoSjust irc happens to be on ;)23:17
CaBaHeikoS: damnit, then i'm alone :P23:17
@HeikoSusually dont use computer on weekends ;)23:17
@HeikoShaha23:17
@HeikoSwhat are you haching then?23:18
CaBaHeikoS: oh just the usual, trying to urgently get some plots together for a talk that is due too soon :P23:18
@HeikoShaha I see23:18
CaBaHeikoS: i removed the function name from the error message btw, travis is baking23:18
@HeikoSyeah that happens to me as well23:19
@HeikoSCaBa: great!23:19
@HeikoSwill merge it then23:19
CaBaHeikoS: thanks23:19
@HeikoScool that people are using the model selection actually23:19
@HeikoSI have the plan to improve this23:19
@HeikoSbut no time at the moment23:19
CaBaHeikoS: well... i need to iterate through the paramters because i'm actually not fully using it ;)23:20
@HeikoSusing x-validation though?23:20
CaBayes23:20
CaBajust the gridsearch i'm kinda doing myself so it can be parallel23:20
CaBawhich i'm also still failing at... i'm totally new to python and there are just too many pitfalls to concurrency in python >.<23:21
CaBaHeikoS: is there a way to get roc data from x-val?23:21
@HeikoSyeah thats better actually23:22
@HeikoSBUT I want to make this parallel inside shogun as well23:22
@HeikoSCaBa: yeah23:23
@HeikoSbut have to write C code at the moment :)23:23
@HeikoSI will probably change that soon, so that it returns simply all scores23:23
@HeikoSnot the mean23:23
@HeikoSCaBa: I gotta go now, have a good night, and good luck with your sat night hac ;)23:24
CaBaok, so from python i cant get a roceval object or similar after i ran x-val?23:24
CaBawell in the meantime i'm close to dropping python again and do it all in cpp, so maybe i'll dig into ways to parallelize the cpp code in the end... big maybe...23:24
CaBai guess since you haven't done it already it won't be a 2-day project ;)23:25
@HeikoSit is planned for gsoc23:25
CaBaHeikoS: have a good night, too23:25
CaBaoh, this year?23:25
@HeikoSso in 3 months parallel xval should be there23:25
@HeikoSand we can update the interface to return all scores on the fly23:26
CaBa\o/23:26
CaBaneat23:26
@HeikoSyeah23:26
@HeikoSask Saurabh7 about it23:26
@HeikoShe is doing it23:26
CaBaparallel gridsearch?23:26
@HeikoSxvalidation23:26
@HeikoSthat is enough23:26
@HeikoSgrid-search can be serial if x-val is parallel23:26
CaBaso num_runs with be parallel?23:27
@HeikoSyeah or even the folds23:27
CaBafolds would be great23:27
@HeikoSwe need to sort out some things for that though23:27
@HeikoSto allow for shared data23:27
@HeikoSobviously dont want to duplicate23:27
shogun-buildbotbuild #213 of FC22 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/FC22%20-%20libshogun/builds/213  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Leon Kuchenbecker <lkuchenb@inf.fu-berlin.de>23:28
CaBa>.<23:28
@HeikoSno worries that was broken before23:28
shogun-buildbotbuild #2861 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed configure]  Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/2861  blamelist: Heiko Strathmann <heiko.strathmann@gmail.com>, Leon Kuchenbecker <lkuchenb@inf.fu-berlin.de>23:30
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CaBaHeikoS: in python things don't even work straight forward with duplicating everything and using multiprocessing - was quite frustrating :P seems like shogun objects aren't particularly picklable :P23:31
@HeikoSCaBa: yeah I know, python multicore is a desaster23:32
@HeikoSeasier if we do it23:32
@HeikoSmaybe its running in a few weeks23:32
@HeikoSI often run a scirpt with different parameters multiple times atm23:32
CaBawell i learned my lession. re-declared python as 'only use for small hacks and never for big projects' :P23:33
CaBawell that's not only memory duplication, that's also i/o and overhead duplication ;)23:34
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