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| shogun-buildbot | build #239 of deb1 - libshogun - PR is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun%20-%20PR/builds/239 | 07:52 |
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| @wiking | shogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'xenial - libshogun' | 09:00 |
| shogun-buildbot | The build has been queued, I'll give a shout when it starts | 09:01 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #10 forced | 09:02 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 09:02 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #10 of xenial - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed test] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/xenial%20-%20libshogun/builds/10 | 09:10 |
| @wiking | shogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'clang - thread analysis' | 09:10 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #4 forced | 09:10 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 09:10 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #4 of clang - thread analysis is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang%20-%20thread%20analysis/builds/4 | 09:31 |
| @wiking | shogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'clang - undefined behaviour analysis' | 09:32 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3 forced | 09:32 |
| shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 09:32 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #3 of clang - undefined behaviour analysis is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang%20-%20undefined%20behaviour%20analysis/builds/3 | 09:55 |
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| @HeikoS | wiking: hi | 10:17 |
| @HeikoS | arianepaola: hi! | 10:18 |
| @HeikoS | GSoC begins! happy coding everyone :) | 10:18 |
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| @HeikoS | wiking: the cookbook travis preview fails | 10:19 |
| @HeikoS | http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun%20-%20PR/builds/237/steps/cookbook/logs/stdio | 10:19 |
| @HeikoS | think sphinx is missing | 10:19 |
| @HeikoS | I guess that is since it moved to the AWS | 10:19 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: not anymore | 10:19 |
| @wiking | noup | 10:19 |
| @wiking | it has nothing to do with it | 10:19 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: check now: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3197 | 10:23 |
| @wiking | http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/cookbook_pr/b326aa9fad9860a184a1d4059d83fe032419f001/ | 10:23 |
| @HeikoS | oh now worked | 10:23 |
| @HeikoS | no idea what that was | 10:23 |
| @wiking | yep fixed it | 10:23 |
| @wiking | there was a little error | 10:23 |
| @HeikoS | ok thanks | 10:23 |
| @wiking | i wanna setup gpu worker | 10:24 |
| @HeikoS | cool | 10:24 |
| @HeikoS | any news from gpl friend? | 10:24 |
| @wiking | yeah | 10:24 |
| @HeikoS | cool! | 10:24 |
| @wiking | he told me that it's ok | 10:24 |
| @wiking | so we can keep the old repo | 10:24 |
| @wiking | but we'll have to remove the code | 10:24 |
| @wiking | (gpl code) | 10:25 |
| @wiking | to a separate repo | 10:25 |
| @wiking | which should be fine | 10:25 |
| @HeikoS | ok then cool | 10:25 |
| @HeikoS | hey that is great | 10:25 |
| @HeikoS | shall we do before release? | 10:25 |
| @HeikoS | how would you approach? | 10:26 |
| @HeikoS | in terms of build managment | 10:26 |
| @wiking | build managment? | 10:34 |
| @wiking | what do you mean? | 10:34 |
| @wiking | it's just an extra submodule | 10:34 |
| @wiking | and that's it | 10:34 |
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| sanuj | lisitsyn, wazzup | 11:06 |
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| lisitsyn | sanuj: hey | 11:59 |
| sanuj | lisitsyn, i start with adding tags to shogun? | 11:59 |
| sanuj | or plugins? | 11:59 |
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| leagoetz | arianepaola: am I missing your cookbook contributions somewhere? can't find them | 13:04 |
| lisitsyn | hey leagoetz | 13:05 |
| sanuj | leagoetz, mine is here: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3197 | 13:07 |
| sanuj | :D | 13:07 |
| sanuj | lisitsyn, adding tags to shogun's SGObject in a different branc | 13:08 |
| sanuj | branch | 13:08 |
| lisitsyn | sanuj: yeah ok :) | 13:08 |
| leagoetz | sanuj: yes, great, I've seen your email already | 13:12 |
| leagoetz | in the process of updating the Wiki | 13:12 |
| sanuj | cool | 13:13 |
| arianepaola | Hello everyone :-) | 13:15 |
| leagoetz | hey Ariane | 13:17 |
| arianepaola | Hi leagoetz, I will add a cookbook contribution shortly | 13:18 |
| leagoetz | how is it going? | 13:18 |
| leagoetz | ah, cool! | 13:18 |
| leagoetz | because GSoC is starting ... and we need everything ready :) | 13:18 |
| arianepaola | :-) | 13:18 |
| leagoetz | Saurabh7: I also need some cooking from you ... | 13:20 |
| leagoetz | also your timeline says 'cookbook' for the final week | 13:22 |
| leagoetz | but I hope it should be obvious to everyone now (given the amount of hassling by me ;P) how important it is to us that you contribute cookbook pages THROUGHOUT GSoC | 13:22 |
| leagoetz | just a reminder ^^ | 13:23 |
| sanuj | leagoetz, i was wondering if it is possible to link the important meetings irc logs in the gsoc wiki section | 13:25 |
| sanuj | will be helpful | 13:25 |
| leagoetz | sure that should be possible | 13:51 |
| leagoetz | certainly from now on | 13:51 |
| leagoetz | like for our meeting tomorrow | 13:51 |
| sanuj | thanks :) | 13:51 |
| sanuj | wiking, there? | 13:54 |
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| travis-ci | it's lambday's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/132277646 | 15:31 |
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| @wiking | HeikoS: oooooooolala | 15:58 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: jojo | 15:59 |
| @wiking | arianepaola: pingooooooooooo | 15:59 |
| @HeikoS | sorry for earlier | 15:59 |
| @HeikoS | train wifi was crap | 15:59 |
| @HeikoS | and my phone died | 15:59 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: so where are all the hard coding students? :) | 15:59 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: i migh thave to leave soon | 15:59 |
| @wiking | hahaha yeah dunno | 15:59 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: just was asking about release and gpl branch | 15:59 |
| @wiking | yeah i'm gonna finish those | 16:00 |
| @HeikoS | what sthe best approach in your eyes? | 16:00 |
| @wiking | as well as the remaining | 16:00 |
| @HeikoS | and how can I help | 16:00 |
| @wiking | tickets for the release | 16:00 |
| @wiking | and cut a release asap | 16:00 |
| @HeikoS | kk | 16:00 |
| @wiking | btw managed to get a gpu instance working with shogun | 16:00 |
| @wiking | only sad part is | 16:00 |
| @HeikoS | I think the GPL thing is most work, no? | 16:00 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: cool | 16:00 |
| @wiking | that we only utilise OPENCL backend for viennacl | 16:00 |
| @wiking | mmm that's just simple copy paste shit | 16:01 |
| @wiking | nothing big there | 16:01 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: yeah but time | 16:01 |
| @HeikoS | ok meta examples failing on travis | 16:01 |
| @HeikoS | not sure since when and why | 16:01 |
| @wiking | yeah do something about that plz | 16:01 |
| @HeikoS | will do | 16:01 |
| @wiking | thnx | 16:01 |
| @wiking | http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb3%20-%20modular_interfaces/builds/2865/steps/test%20java%20modular/logs/stdio | 16:02 |
| @wiking | they are not failing here right | 16:02 |
| @wiking | ? | 16:02 |
| @HeikoS | yep | 16:02 |
| @HeikoS | seems travis | 16:02 |
| @HeikoS | and its only the compiled ones | 16:03 |
| @HeikoS | java and csharp | 16:03 |
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| travis-ci | it's Soumyajit De's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/132278593 | 16:05 |
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| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: hihi | 16:14 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: Greetings! | 16:14 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: how are things? | 16:14 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: whats the java version on buildbot? | 16:15 |
| @HeikoS | travis is 1.8.0 | 16:15 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: got something to discuss with you | 16:15 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: good! | 16:15 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: it's openjdk | 16:15 |
| @wiking | and not oracle jdk | 16:15 |
| @HeikoS | I see | 16:15 |
| @wiking | 1.7.0 | 16:16 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: ah it was sanuj | 16:16 |
| @HeikoS | https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/jobs/132213321#L2585 | 16:16 |
| @HeikoS | type error | 16:16 |
| @HeikoS | might need to change the grammar | 16:16 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: start from the smallest? cookbook - I have modshogun error from the very beginning when I try to run examples | 16:17 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: locally? | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | in all languages? | 16:18 |
| OXPHOS | yes. even with the python example in undocumented | 16:18 |
| OXPHOS | yes. | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | kk | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | so in order to run e.g. a python example | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | you need to set two environment variables: | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | PYTHONPATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | (or run make install) | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | but better set the variables | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | so that python sees your shogun build | 16:18 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: the same is true for all other modular targets | 16:19 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: know what I am talking about? | 16:19 |
| OXPHOS | aha..just to show python where things are? | 16:19 |
| @HeikoS | exactly | 16:19 |
| OXPHOS | what is LD_LIBRARY_PATH (LD)? | 16:19 |
| @HeikoS | example: | 16:20 |
| @HeikoS | echo "Adding shogun_develop to python and ld lib path" | 16:20 |
| @HeikoS | export PYTHONPATH=/home/heiko/git/shogun/shogun_develop/shogun/build/src/interfaces/python_modular:$PYTHONPATH | 16:20 |
| @HeikoS | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/heiko/git/shogun/shogun_develop/shogun/build/src/shogun:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH | 16:20 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: this is where the system looks for shared libraries | 16:20 |
| @HeikoS | in this case: libshogun.so | 16:20 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: otherwise, you will get an error when running things | 16:20 |
| OXPHOS | okay thx. lemme try. | 16:21 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: should be quick to fix | 16:21 |
| @HeikoS | let me know if you need help | 16:21 |
| @HeikoS | or ask lisitsyn or wiking | 16:21 |
| OXPHOS | should these be in the readme or this is too basic XD | 16:21 |
| @HeikoS | they are | 16:21 |
| @HeikoS | if you feel like they need to be more upfront, please send a patch, very useful! :) | 16:21 |
| OXPHOS | sure : ) | 16:22 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: Serialization: https://gist.github.com/OXPHOS/c4a11c1d378aa3d9911744300feb79b5 | 16:22 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: so what is your plan for this week? | 16:22 |
| OXPHOS | start with serialization since I kinda started? | 16:22 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: cereal uses smart pointers | 16:23 |
| OXPHOS | I tried integrate cereal in SGVector and KMeans. | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | so might depend on that transition | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | cool | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | a working prototype anywhere? | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | otherwise that is first step | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | but fine to start with this if you feel like | 16:23 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: ^ ok with you as well? | 16:24 |
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| OXPHOS | It worked. I added some codes in SGVecotr and KMeans. I don't know how to highlight them other than pull request. But I put the patch in gist | 16:24 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: I see you use std::vector to wrap shogun SGVector | 16:24 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: we can do this in a feature branch | 16:24 |
| @HeikoS | shall I create one? | 16:24 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7 hi! | 16:25 |
| OXPHOS | sure thx. | 16:25 |
| Saurabh7_ | yo hello | 16:25 |
| @HeikoS | I gotta leave soon, but will be back from train a bit later | 16:25 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_ shall we talk tomorrow before the GSOC meeting? | 16:26 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: same for you, shall we talk a bit then? | 16:26 |
| Saurabh7_ | HeikoS, ok i ll be around | 16:26 |
| @HeikoS | both, can you plan the week a bit in terms of what you want to do exactly etc? | 16:26 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: Sure! | 16:26 |
| @HeikoS | then we can dicsuss tomorrow | 16:26 |
| @HeikoS | also maybe some first concrete issues that we need to solve | 16:26 |
| OXPHOS | kk | 16:26 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: I created a feature branch fork from develop | 16:27 |
| @HeikoS | you can send PRs against that now | 16:27 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: cool thanks! | 16:27 |
| @HeikoS | https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/tree/feature/cereal | 16:28 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: feature brnaches are a bit more easy to work with | 16:28 |
| @HeikoS | travis runs on the PRs | 16:28 |
| @HeikoS | but the buildbot doesnt | 16:28 |
| @HeikoS | so one can prototype more quickly | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | but then merging is more work | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: can you send a PR for the working SGVector? | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | then we can discuss over that tomorrow | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: so about the indexing | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | I am not sure I get the problem | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | can you send an email?= | 16:29 |
| OXPHOS | sure. but i currently have cereal at local. should i just send the whole library for now? | 16:29 |
| @HeikoS | gotta run now, see you | 16:30 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: mmh | 16:30 |
| @HeikoS | ask wiking | 16:30 |
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| @HeikoS | he will have an opinion | 16:30 |
| @HeikoS | bye and see you later | 16:30 |
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| OXPHOS | wiking: there? | 16:31 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: here here | 16:31 |
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| OXPHOS | wiking: Hello : ) I have some cereal prototype [w/o smart pointer] working for SGVector and KMeans now | 16:32 |
| OXPHOS | https://gist.github.com/OXPHOS/c4a11c1d378aa3d9911744300feb79b5 | 16:32 |
| @wiking | kk lemme se | 16:34 |
| @wiking | e | 16:34 |
| @wiking | why dont you create a pr? :D | 16:34 |
| OXPHOS | wiking: I'm gonna pull a PR in feature branch. Can I dump the whole external/cereal library in by now? | 16:35 |
| OXPHOS | Not sure how travis will find cereal | 16:35 |
| @wiking | yeah | 16:35 |
| @wiking | we can work on that | 16:35 |
| OXPHOS | wiking: okay. Then lemme do it now. | 16:37 |
| @wiking | cool | 16:37 |
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| travis-ci | it's lambday's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/132297534 | 16:47 |
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| OXPHOS | Is github down or just me? | 17:10 |
| Saurabh7_ | works here | 17:11 |
| @wiking | check status.github.com | 17:13 |
| @wiking | yes it's down | 17:14 |
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| hessian | hello, tried to install shogun-toolbox on mac os but cannot get all the dependencies right. Is there a way to install it without building it from scratch ? Thanks. | 17:17 |
| OXPHOS | aha | 17:17 |
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| travis-ci | it's lambday's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/132298773 | 17:20 |
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| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: | 17:55 |
| @HeikoS | hi | 17:56 |
| @HeikoS | in train now | 17:56 |
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| @HeikoS | Saurabh7 | 17:57 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: | 17:57 |
| @HeikoS | so about the indexing | 17:57 |
| @HeikoS | we definitely dont want to change method signatures everywhere | 17:57 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: hi | 17:58 |
| @HeikoS | but it should not be necessary | 17:58 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7 around? | 17:58 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: you still around? | 18:01 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: yes | 18:01 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: so we can discuss a bit now | 18:02 |
| @HeikoS | two points I would like to talk about | 18:02 |
| @HeikoS | plan for this week and cereal prototype | 18:02 |
| @HeikoS | plan for this week: cookbook pages and cereal plan. | 18:03 |
| @HeikoS | cereal prototype: PR against feature branch | 18:04 |
| @HeikoS | thoughts about those things? | 18:04 |
| OXPHOS | sounds good | 18:04 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: I mean I wanted to get your thoughts and ideas on what these points would be | 18:05 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: not just tell you ;) | 18:05 |
| OXPHOS | haha lemme grab my notes | 18:05 |
| Saurabh7_ | HeikoS, hi | 18:05 |
| Saurabh7_ | machine->add_subset(train_inds, str(fold_id)) machine->train() | 18:05 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7 hi | 18:05 |
| Saurabh7_ | is this thread safe thought | 18:05 |
| Saurabh7_ | though | 18:05 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: I think I dont get why the method signatures need to be changed | 18:06 |
| @HeikoS | when there is a default parameter | 18:06 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: so essentially each identifier manages a difference subset | 18:06 |
| @HeikoS | and putting a particular one in doesnt affect the others | 18:06 |
| Saurabh7_ | yes but how would train know which to access | 18:07 |
| OXPHOS | 1. test save/load methods in kmeans, json, xml, binary; 2. add save/load methods in SGString, SGMatrix etc. 3. add cereal.cmake | 18:07 |
| OXPHOS | I have 4 5 6 7. But honestly so far I don't feel smart pointer necessary | 18:07 |
| OXPHOS | and I tried smart pointer, failed.. | 18:07 |
| Saurabh7_ | machine->add_subset (in thread 1) ) | 18:07 |
| Saurabh7_ | some compuataion in 1 | 18:07 |
| Saurabh7_ | machine->add_subset(train_inds, str(fold_id)) in thread 2 | 18:08 |
| Saurabh7_ | back to 1 ? | 18:08 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: get it now you mean inside | 18:08 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: ok that is good | 18:08 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: so I fear that allocating empty SGObject instances will be hard | 18:08 |
| @HeikoS | what about going ahead with a working version of SGVector | 18:08 |
| @HeikoS | and then a CSGOBject | 18:09 |
| @HeikoS | not KMeans, as it has complex sub-types | 18:09 |
| @HeikoS | an easier one for now | 18:09 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: good point, any ideas to resolve? we dont want to change all that code | 18:09 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: but it might be impossible without in fact | 18:09 |
| Saurabh7_ | yes i thought about it | 18:10 |
| Saurabh7_ | cant see other way | 18:10 |
| Saurabh7_ | other than have different subset stack on copies | 18:10 |
| @HeikoS | need to tell the model somehow in which thread it lives with this approach | 18:10 |
| Saurabh7_ | yes for taht each acces pattern would need the identifier | 18:10 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7_: you know how other libs do this? | 18:11 |
| @HeikoS | store copies of data in memory? | 18:11 |
| @HeikoS | is that the only way? | 18:11 |
| Saurabh7_ | dont know in detail | 18:11 |
| Saurabh7_ | scikit uses joblib | 18:11 |
| @HeikoS | sklearn has a new version | 18:11 |
| @HeikoS | yeah thats the one | 18:11 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: ? | 18:11 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: discussing thread safe subset | 18:12 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: one way is passing an identifier with each subset | 18:12 |
| @HeikoS | but then we need this idenfitier when asking for data from the thread | 18:12 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: any thoughts on how to do it without changing existing code? | 18:12 |
| @wiking | mmmm | 18:13 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: without storing copies of memory | 18:13 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: well either pointers to the data | 18:13 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: but that also requires the thread to know which fraction of data is accessed | 18:13 |
| @wiking | ? | 18:14 |
| @wiking | what do you mean fraction of the data | 18:14 |
| @wiking | anyhow there's another option | 18:14 |
| @HeikoS | for xvalidation e.g. | 18:14 |
| @wiking | is to have thread safe | 18:14 |
| @wiking | iterators | 18:14 |
| @wiking | but first | 18:14 |
| @wiking | what you wanna actually fix here | 18:14 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: yeah the iterator would need to be passed to the algorithm | 18:14 |
| @wiking | do we wanna solve the problem of a r/w view | 18:14 |
| @HeikoS | we want multicore xvalidation | 18:14 |
| @wiking | or a read-only view | 18:14 |
| @wiking | ? | 18:14 |
| @HeikoS | read only atm | 18:14 |
| @wiking | ah then i think | 18:14 |
| @wiking | introducing a const_iterator for the feature | 18:15 |
| @wiking | would be the best idea | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | kk | 18:15 |
| @wiking | or? | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | so lets think about it | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | have svm | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | that accepts a CFeatures instance | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | we make this one an iterator (somehow) | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | and then pass different ones to each machine | 18:15 |
| @HeikoS | in fact | 18:16 |
| @HeikoS | no iterator necessary | 18:16 |
| @HeikoS | just have multiple CFeatures instances | 18:16 |
| @HeikoS | each with different subset | 18:16 |
| @HeikoS | pointing to same data | 18:16 |
| @HeikoS | this way, the CMachine instance doesnt just interacts with that | 18:16 |
| @HeikoS | right? | 18:16 |
| @wiking | well yeah | 18:17 |
| @wiking | you dont need an actual itertor | 18:17 |
| @wiking | i just wanted to give an idea with the concept | 18:17 |
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| @HeikoS | wiking: yeah, just copies of CFeatures | 18:17 |
| @HeikoS | sure sure | 18:17 |
| @wiking | yeah but not the data | 18:17 |
| @HeikoS | yes, same data | 18:17 |
| @HeikoS | all const methods | 18:17 |
| @wiking | yep yep | 18:17 |
| @HeikoS | like CSubsetFeatures | 18:17 |
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| @HeikoS | lambday: jojo | 18:17 |
| @lambday | HeikoS: hola | 18:18 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: so | 18:18 |
| @HeikoS | get the idea? | 18:18 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: [not sure when to interrupt] Currently we only serialize parameters [in class] individually. thinking of serializing one class as a whole? | 18:18 |
| Saurabh7__ | yeah sorry i missed some part | 18:18 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: anytime! | 18:18 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: got a PR in email | 18:18 |
| @wiking | but 404 on github | 18:18 |
| @wiking | :) | 18:18 |
| OXPHOS | Never mind it is not the latest version.. | 18:18 |
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| @wiking | ok works now | 18:18 |
| shogun-buildbot | build #241 of deb1 - libshogun - PR is complete: Failure [failed git] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun%20-%20PR/builds/241 blamelist: OXPHOS | 18:19 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: not sure what you mean | 18:19 |
| OXPHOS | wiking: some commits are not there yet | 18:19 |
| @wiking | no worries | 18:19 |
| @wiking | checking stuff | 18:19 |
| @lambday | OXPHOS: how's it going? | 18:19 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: so, the x-validation class would, rather than adding subsets to features, create multiple CFeatures objects, each pointing to the same data, but with different subsets applied to them | 18:19 |
| Saurabh7__ | HeikoS, so sort of shallow copy ? | 18:20 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: same for your bagging machine | 18:20 |
| @HeikoS | rather than putting subsets, create new feature objects | 18:20 |
| @HeikoS | or does it write? | 18:20 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: im thinking: kmeans.parameters.load() loads everything. So SGObject is created by default constructor or whatever before loading | 18:20 |
| OXPHOS | lambday: Hey! | 18:20 |
| @lambday | wiking: hey what was the flag to check whether we have openmp or not? HAVE_OPENMP or something? you remember? | 18:20 |
| @wiking | lambday: in code or in cmake? | 18:21 |
| @lambday | wiking: in code | 18:21 |
| @wiking | lambday: no thing like this is checked afaik | 18:21 |
| @lambday | basically I want to include omp.h, if we have openmp.. | 18:21 |
| @wiking | but imo #pragma -s are ignored | 18:21 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: do you mean we can load(kmeans). Then we create an instance of kmeans with saved parameters? | 18:21 |
| @lambday | yeah for pragmas it is alright | 18:21 |
| @wiking | mm that case introduce | 18:22 |
| @wiking | a define in config.h.in | 18:22 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: no | 18:22 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: different subset on each of them | 18:22 |
| @HeikoS | only the same data | 18:22 |
| @lambday | wiking: alright.. yeah was checking for that HAVE_* thing but couldn't find it anywhere.. thought if it's there you'd know :) | 18:22 |
| @HeikoS | so shallow copy + subset | 18:22 |
| @lambday | OXPHOS: working on cerealization? | 18:23 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: ok so this is noob | 18:23 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: close the pr | 18:23 |
| @wiking | beause you've imported actually cereal to the codebase | 18:23 |
| @wiking | fuck github is broken | 18:23 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: sure, but if you use default constructor, then the memory for its members is not allocated ... that can be tricky. But will see, just go ahead for now | 18:23 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: any plan on which cookbook pages you want to add? | 18:24 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: and any update on the modular bindings issue you had? | 18:24 |
| OXPHOS | lambday: yes: ) had some work on linalg but not posted yet | 18:24 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: ok so lets talk about this commit a bit :) | 18:24 |
| @wiking | i mean PR | 18:24 |
| OXPHOS | wiking: sure yes there's still problem | 18:25 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: ok so first of all this is wrong | 18:25 |
| @wiking | because you import the whole cereal codebase | 18:25 |
| @wiking | into shogun codebase | 18:25 |
| @wiking | do not do that | 18:25 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: not yet..was making cereal to make sure it works | 18:25 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: second: you started using STL in headers... please avoid that | 18:25 |
| @wiking | meaning why do you need std::vector | 18:25 |
| @wiking | to serialize an array of TYPENAME | 18:26 |
| @wiking | it's cool to the the thing with cereal | 18:26 |
| @wiking | the way eigen is dont | 18:26 |
| @wiking | *done | 18:26 |
| @wiking | i.e. add it as an external dependency if there's not cereal on the system | 18:26 |
| @wiking | but do not git add the cereal codebase to the shogun source | 18:27 |
| @wiking | (see your pr) | 18:27 |
| OXPHOS | wiking: yes i know. 1. for external dependency i need a cereal.cmake right? or there's other ways | 18:27 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: you should actually name it FindCereal.cmake | 18:28 |
| @wiking | just to be consistent with cmake modules | 18:28 |
| OXPHOS | sure. and the vector - | 18:28 |
| @wiking | did you use this | 18:28 |
| @wiking | https://github.com/DURAARK/e57Extract/blob/master/cmake/modules/FindCereal.cmake | 18:28 |
| @wiking | ? | 18:28 |
| OXPHOS | aha no. didnt' try | 18:29 |
| @wiking | or i guess you used this | 18:29 |
| @wiking | https://github.com/kc5nra/sporkel/blob/master/ext/cereal.cmake | 18:29 |
| @wiking | beause this assumes | 18:29 |
| @wiking | that you have ceraal in your source tree | 18:29 |
| @wiking | anyhow | 18:29 |
| @wiking | try to look around for FindCereal | 18:29 |
| @wiking | use stuff that is opensource | 18:29 |
| OXPHOS | okay | 18:30 |
| @wiking | copying opensource stuff is not wrong | 18:30 |
| @wiking | it's actually encouraged | 18:30 |
| @wiking | :) | 18:30 |
| @lambday | haha ^ | 18:30 |
| @lambday | :D | 18:30 |
| @wiking | lambday: ? | 18:30 |
| OXPHOS | : ) so the vector - it was a T* vector that needs to be serialized | 18:30 |
| @wiking | lambday: dont you agree? | 18:30 |
| @lambday | wiking: of course.. unless it's GPL | 18:30 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: yeah i know what needed to be done | 18:31 |
| OXPHOS | I tried to convert it to a smart pointer, which gave error | 18:31 |
| @wiking | yep | 18:31 |
| @wiking | but we can 'teach' cereal | 18:31 |
| @wiking | how to serialize a T* | 18:31 |
| @wiking | no need for copy ctrs | 18:31 |
| @wiking | so first close this pr | 18:31 |
| @wiking | start a new one | 18:31 |
| @wiking | and add there as the beginning | 18:31 |
| @wiking | the cmake related stuff | 18:32 |
| @wiking | once we have that | 18:32 |
| @wiking | we'll switch to PoC stuff for objects | 18:32 |
| @wiking | ok? | 18:32 |
| OXPHOS | sure | 18:32 |
| @wiking | tnx | 18:32 |
| OXPHOS | was thinking modifying from that json.cmake | 18:33 |
| @wiking | the stuff you wrote in the md for cmake part | 18:33 |
| @wiking | was good | 18:33 |
| @wiking | that's fine | 18:33 |
| @wiking | OXPHOS: but again | 18:33 |
| @wiking | there's that one i found on github | 18:33 |
| @wiking | (FindCereal.cmake) | 18:33 |
| @wiking | that will serve you good | 18:33 |
| OXPHOS | sure I didn't realize we can find such stuff. Thx! | 18:34 |
| @wiking | yeah yeah | 18:34 |
| @wiking | easy | 18:34 |
| @wiking | github is your friend | 18:34 |
| @wiking | (when it works) | 18:34 |
| @wiking | just search for findCereal | 18:34 |
| OXPHOS | haha | 18:34 |
| @wiking | :) | 18:34 |
| @wiking | just ping me when you have the pr read | 18:35 |
| @wiking | *ready | 18:35 |
| OXPHOS | wiking: np. thx! | 18:35 |
| @wiking | nw | 18:36 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: for the cookbook - distance_braycurtis, canberra and canberraword? random pick | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: try algoerithms first | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | before these "tools" such as distance are covered | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | all classifiers and regression methods | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | all clustering | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | all preprocessing | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | then distance and kernel | 18:37 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: about thread safety | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | just talking with Saurabh7__ | 18:38 |
| @wiking | yep | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | so the access methods of features | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | we should ensure read-only | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | on some of them | 18:38 |
| @wiking | const | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | and hacking mutex for the ones that modify | 18:38 |
| @wiking | c++ is great for that | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | yeah that is what I was thinking | 18:38 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: atomic is fine | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | so need to clean up interface | 18:38 |
| @wiking | no need for mutex | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: true | 18:38 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: so CFetaures needs const read methods | 18:39 |
| @wiking | yep | 18:39 |
| @wiking | best would be | 18:39 |
| @wiking | operators | 18:39 |
| @wiking | ;) | 18:39 |
| @wiking | if you know what i mean | 18:39 |
| @HeikoS | so basically whenever we do things in parallel, we need to make sure all operators called from within are const | 18:39 |
| OXPHOS | HeikoS: qda, ssk, clustering_hierarchical_modular? | 18:39 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: yeah sure, I mean we can go on the fly -- all algos that are parallelised, we make sure to make all calls const | 18:40 |
| @wiking | operator[](index_t idx) const; | 18:40 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: saw that ^ | 18:40 |
| @HeikoS | OXPHOS: perfect :) | 18:40 |
| Saurabh7__ | HeikoS, yep | 18:40 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: cool | 18:40 |
| @HeikoS | so this way we clean up things a bit on the fly | 18:40 |
| arianepaola | :-) | 18:40 |
| @HeikoS | and allow the optimizer to be more efficient | 18:40 |
| @wiking | and to have cleaner code | 18:41 |
| @wiking | instead of | 18:41 |
| @wiking | cfeatures->get_feature_vector(2) | 18:41 |
| @wiking | :P | 18:41 |
| @wiking | cfeatures[2] | 18:41 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: lets start with this x-validation then for week 1 | 18:41 |
| @wiking | ;P | 18:41 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: yeah actually good point | 18:41 |
| @wiking | i mean for god sakes | 18:41 |
| @wiking | this is c++ | 18:41 |
| @HeikoS | Saurabh7__: ^ | 18:41 |
| @wiking | not java | 18:41 |
| @HeikoS | instance->get_weirdthing<another_weird_thing>()::interface | 18:42 |
| @HeikoS | haha | 18:42 |
| @HeikoS | arianepaola: hi there! | 18:42 |
| arianepaola | hi HeikoS | 18:42 |
| @HeikoS | arianepaola: how are things? | 18:42 |
| arianepaola | HeikoS: good | 18:43 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: actually good question: what does swig do with operators :DDDD | 18:43 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: screw them up properly | 18:43 |
| @wiking | ah cool | 18:43 |
| @wiking | http://www.swig.org/Doc1.3/SWIGPlus.html#SWIGPlus_nn28 | 18:43 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: but such access methods do not even need to be exposed | 18:43 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: feats->get_feature_matrix()[i] | 18:44 |
| @HeikoS | arianepaola: had a chance to check a cookbook entry? | 18:44 |
| @wiking | http://www.swig.org/Doc3.0/SWIGPlus.html#SWIGPlus_nn28 | 18:44 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: ^ swig works nicely with such things | 18:44 |
| @wiking | ;) | 18:44 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: well then | 18:44 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: had a chat to arianepaola about helping with release pip? | 18:45 |
| arianepaola | HeikoS: have to add one | 18:45 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: not yet about that | 18:45 |
| @wiking | anybody used virt-install before? | 18:45 |
| @wiking | i need an aarch64 linux instance | 18:46 |
| @HeikoS | nope | 18:47 |
| @wiking | i mean = we need an aarch64 instance :P | 18:47 |
| @HeikoS | :P | 18:47 |
| @wiking | and aws is not good for such things :) | 18:47 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: btw what our current usage rate? | 18:48 |
| @wiking | hahaha | 18:48 |
| @wiking | 0.5 USD/day | 18:48 |
| @HeikoS | wiking: btw2, shall we maybe announce aws donation? | 18:48 |
| @HeikoS | haha | 18:48 |
| @HeikoS | nice | 18:48 |
| @wiking | HeikoS: today it'll be more | 18:48 |
| @wiking | because i tested gpu instance | 18:48 |
| @HeikoS | i see | 18:48 |
| @wiking | but on average it is 0.5 usd/day | 18:48 |
| @wiking | so that should be good for anohter | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | thats 150 / year | 18:49 |
| @wiking | 87 year | 18:49 |
| @wiking | 16000/0.5/365 | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | which is 100 times less that we needed | 18:49 |
| @wiking | or? | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | even less haha | 18:49 |
| @wiking | so yeah but we have to use that within 1 year | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | we can do lots of binary builds soon | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | and also the cloud | 18:49 |
| @wiking | re: btw2 lets wait until we dont get the shogun-cloud back online | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | kk | 18:49 |
| @HeikoS | good idea | 18:50 |
| @HeikoS | and then announce together | 18:50 |
| @wiking | yep | 18:50 |
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| travis-ci | it's lambday's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/132316732 | 19:27 |
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| shogun-buildbot | build #242 of deb1 - libshogun - PR is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/deb1%20-%20libshogun%20-%20PR/builds/242 | 22:21 |
| arianepaola | until tomorrow everyone :-) | 22:47 |
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