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| travis-ci | it's Saurabh7's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/171903621 | 08:21 | 
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| c4goldsw | ping wiking | 12:10 | 
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| CaBa | wiking: ping | 19:06 | 
| CaBa | is there any example on how to do model selection in case of MKL? | 19:07 | 
| @wiking | CaBa, hey | 19:10 | 
| @wiking | mmm | 19:10 | 
| @wiking | have you checked the notebooks? | 19:10 | 
| @wiking | c4goldsw, hi man | 19:11 | 
| @wiking | sorry we've been busy with the release | 19:11 | 
| @wiking | and gsoc summit | 19:11 | 
| @wiking | but i'm gonna get to your PR asap | 19:11 | 
| CaBa | just staring at this right now: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/src/shogun/kernel/CombinedKernel.cpp#L805 | 19:11 | 
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| CaBa | wiking: where can i search the notebooks? | 19:12 | 
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| CaBa | wiking: i don't really get how i can add the kernels with their own parameters to be learned | 19:13 | 
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| CaBa | hey HeikoS | 19:13 | 
| @HeikoS | CaBa: hihi | 19:13 | 
| @HeikoS | all good? | 19:13 | 
| CaBa | HeikoS: trying to figure aout MKL + MS | 19:13 | 
| CaBa | HeikoS: no examples out there, are they? | 19:13 | 
| @HeikoS | I am not sure | 19:13 | 
| @HeikoS | but what do you want to model select? | 19:14 | 
| @HeikoS | only thing you need is the regularisation parameter, no? | 19:14 | 
| CaBa | HeikoS: the parameters of the individual kernesls | 19:14 | 
| @HeikoS | the MKL learns the kernel weights for you | 19:14 | 
| @HeikoS | the coefficients | 19:14 | 
| CaBa | HeikoS: yes but how about the parameters of the used kernels? | 19:14 | 
| @HeikoS | usually, one would put in multiple kernels with different parameters | 19:15 | 
| @HeikoS | but yeah you should also be able to model select them | 19:15 | 
| @HeikoS | just do the usual story of building a parameter tree | 19:15 | 
| @HeikoS | it is a bit insane computationally though ;) | 19:15 | 
| @HeikoS | there is the ipython notebook on model selection | 19:16 | 
| CaBa | is there mkl in there? | 19:16 | 
| @HeikoS | you can open manually, but we are in fact preparing a new release atm and it will be on the website soon | 19:16 | 
| @HeikoS | as in today/tomorrow | 19:16 | 
| @HeikoS | no mkl in there | 19:16 | 
| CaBa | well MS i've alreay been doing | 19:16 | 
| @HeikoS | I see | 19:16 | 
| @HeikoS | doesnt it work with mkl? | 19:16 | 
| @HeikoS | I can have a look | 19:17 | 
| @HeikoS | (after we released) | 19:17 | 
| CaBa | i don't see how i could add that, maybe i don't get the idea | 19:17 | 
| @HeikoS | you build the parameter tree | 19:17 | 
| @HeikoS | put in all the things you want | 19:17 | 
| @HeikoS | and then as usual | 19:17 | 
| @HeikoS | mkl might or might not work with that | 19:17 | 
| @HeikoS | but it is easy to make it work if it doesnt and I can help | 19:17 | 
| @HeikoS | but building the parameter tree should be straight forward | 19:17 | 
| CaBa | it isn't to me right now | 19:18 | 
| CaBa | that's my problem | 19:18 | 
| @HeikoS | ok | 19:19 | 
| @HeikoS | I can write something | 19:19 | 
| @HeikoS | tomorrow ok? | 19:19 | 
| @HeikoS | I might do it in the plane | 19:19 | 
| CaBa | any brief example on how to plug this together would be great | 19:19 | 
| @HeikoS | have a 10 hr flight later | 19:19 | 
| CaBa | yeah thanks | 19:19 | 
| @HeikoS | cool will do | 19:19 | 
| @HeikoS | CaBa: ping me if you dont hear anything | 19:19 | 
| CaBa | will do | 19:19 | 
| CaBa | ;) | 19:19 | 
| CaBa | have a safe trip | 19:20 | 
| @HeikoS | thanks :) | 19:21 | 
| @HeikoS | CaBa: hey do you want to contribute a cookbook page for modelselection? | 19:21 | 
| @HeikoS | CaBa: in the style of this: http://shogun.ml/cookbook/latest/ | 19:21 | 
| CaBa | HeikoS: sure, if i get to figure it out :)) | 19:22 | 
| CaBa | HeikoS: is running multiple kernels on the same data the usual usecase for MKL? | 19:24 | 
| CaBa | HeikoS: because that's not what I'm doing... every kernel works on it's own data in my case | 19:24 | 
| @HeikoS | yeah it is fine | 19:24 | 
| @HeikoS | but depends on what you want to do | 19:25 | 
| @HeikoS | we have a noteobok on mkl, you saw that? | 19:25 | 
| CaBa | yep, just went through that | 19:25 | 
| CaBa | the old school examples are a bit more exhaustive here i think ;) | 19:26 | 
| lisitsyn | hey guys | 19:26 | 
| CaBa | hey lisitsyn | 19:26 | 
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: you back? | 19:26 | 
| lisitsyn | thanks for the plan | 19:26 | 
| lisitsyn | glanced over it | 19:26 | 
| CaBa | bbl, going home | 19:26 | 
| @wiking | lisitsyn, | 19:28 | 
| lisitsyn | wiking: hey | 19:29 | 
| @wiking | when are you coming back to shogun? :D | 19:29 | 
| lisitsyn | is it an invitation? | 19:29 | 
| lisitsyn | :P | 19:29 | 
| lisitsyn | I guess nips | 19:29 | 
| lisitsyn | nips anybody? | 19:29 | 
| @wiking | :( | 19:30 | 
| @wiking | not this year again :( | 19:30 | 
| lisitsyn | meh | 19:30 | 
| lisitsyn | your employer | 19:31 | 
| lisitsyn | :P | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | :D | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | so btw | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | do you have somewhere that SG_ADD patch | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | that is not yet 100% | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | but still something | 19:31 | 
| lisitsyn | uhmm yes | 19:31 | 
| lisitsyn | want to finish it? | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | yeah woudl be good to have it out there | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | so either we finish it | 19:31 | 
| @wiking | or somebody | 19:31 | 
| lisitsyn | it is terrible | 19:31 | 
| lisitsyn | I mean I got into it | 19:31 | 
| lisitsyn | and then I realize I'm in freaking narnia | 19:32 | 
| @wiking | ;D | 19:32 | 
| lisitsyn | all is fragile and | 19:32 | 
| lisitsyn | no idea how to unfuck it | 19:32 | 
| @wiking | heheh no worries | 19:32 | 
| @wiking | we'll see | 19:32 | 
| @wiking | just have it somewhere public | 19:32 | 
| @wiking | so we can play with it | 19:32 | 
| lisitsyn | wiking: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b7823b95315068cda6fba24b41e11f46887064fd | 19:33 | 
| lisitsyn | this branch | 19:33 | 
| @wiking | \o/ | 19:33 | 
| lisitsyn | wiking: you will get the basic idea | 19:34 | 
| lisitsyn | I cna describe what is fucked | 19:34 | 
| lisitsyn | the thing is I had to patch any | 19:34 | 
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| lisitsyn | to support policy different from default | 19:34 | 
| lisitsyn | default policy is like copy like a pro | 19:35 | 
| c4goldsw | wiking Hey there | 19:35 | 
| lisitsyn | so it's owning | 19:35 | 
| c4goldsw | It's fine, no rush. | 19:35 | 
| lisitsyn | and I tried to add non-owning policy | 19:35 | 
| c4goldsw | Hey HeikoS | 19:35 | 
| lisitsyn | but here comes maths | 19:35 | 
| lisitsyn | you have owning x owning | 19:35 | 
| lisitsyn | owning x non-owning | 19:35 | 
| lisitsyn | etc | 19:35 | 
| lisitsyn | and I am not even sure I covered everything | 19:36 | 
| @HeikoS | CaBa: well yeah, the idea is to port them all :) | 19:36 | 
| lisitsyn | it's quite tough | 19:36 | 
| @HeikoS | c4goldsw: hi there | 19:36 | 
| lisitsyn | then as a desperate attempt I tried to add equals | 19:36 | 
| @wiking | lisitsyn, ah i see ... let's see i mean this is definitely like 6.0.0 so we hav etime to figure out shit | 19:36 | 
| lisitsyn | ok | 19:36 | 
| @wiking | we are gonna just fix notebooks | 19:37 | 
| @wiking | now | 19:37 | 
| @wiking | and some builds | 19:37 | 
| @wiking | and then release whatever is now in develop | 19:37 | 
| @wiking | to test the new release pipeline + website | 19:37 | 
| lisitsyn | so tldr: it is conceptually fucked so I had to take time to think | 19:37 | 
| lisitsyn | this means I context switched for an year | 19:37 | 
| lisitsyn | lol | 19:37 | 
| @wiking | sure, we still have time | 19:37 | 
| @wiking | till 6.0 | 19:37 | 
| lisitsyn | my context switching is like | 19:37 | 
| lisitsyn | year by year | 19:37 | 
| lisitsyn | are you in the us still? | 19:38 | 
| @wiking | yeah | 19:38 | 
| @wiking | next to heiko | 19:38 | 
| @wiking | trying to fix the last shit | 19:38 | 
| lisitsyn | slap him | 19:38 | 
| @wiking | to be able to release today | 19:38 | 
| @wiking | :D | 19:38 | 
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: what???? | 19:38 | 
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS: what? ;) | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | anyhow let's see how the release pipeline works out | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | :))) | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | lisitsyn, have you seen that the buildbot is actually autodeploy the new website | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | ?: ) | 19:39 | 
| lisitsyn | wiking: oh you rock | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | when you push to shogun-web2 ? :D | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | we have now in buildbot like all sorts of automation like this | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | not only libshogun builds | 19:39 | 
| lisitsyn | oh this is good | 19:39 | 
| @wiking | and basically thus | 19:40 | 
| @wiking | we have a full release pipeline | 19:40 | 
| @wiking | that creates all the artifacts | 19:40 | 
| @wiking | that is needed for a release | 19:40 | 
| @wiking | once you push/merge thing into master | 19:40 | 
| @wiking | :D | 19:40 | 
| @wiking | but have never tested it yet | 19:40 | 
| @wiking | so lets see how it works out | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | :))) | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | :) | 19:41 | 
| lisitsyn | production based testing | 19:41 | 
| lisitsyn | okie | 19:41 | 
| lisitsyn | :P | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | indeed | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | well fuck it | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | we just need to do it once | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | and then it should be fine | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | and then we can do more frequently releases | 19:41 | 
| @wiking | https://hub.docker.com/r/shogun/shogun/ | 19:43 | 
| @wiking | this is a libshogun nightly docker image :) | 19:43 | 
| @wiking | based on trusty | 19:43 | 
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