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shogun-buildbot | build #1 of clang - static analysis is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/clang%20-%20static%20analysis/builds/1 | 03:02 |
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@wiking | yeey | 03:32 |
@wiking | nightlies are back | 03:32 |
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Saurabh7 | sukey should auto kick that US election bot :)) | 08:51 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3517 by amarlearning: "@karlnapf please mention the sample template url ?" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3517#issuecomment-259069802 | 08:58 |
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sonne|work | wiking: nice! now what is missing is the http://cloud.shogun-toolbox.org/notebook/neuralnets_digits.ipynb | 09:20 |
sonne|work | e.g... | 09:20 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3517 by amarlearning: "@karlnapf It would be great if you could mention the link to this website http://shogun.ml/showroom " - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3517#issuecomment-259074185 | 09:24 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3517 by amarlearning: "@karlnapf It would be great if you could mention the link to this website http://shogun.ml/showroom | 09:25 |
@sukey | I mean the link to the file structure of this website! " - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3517#issuecomment-259074185 | 09:25 |
sonne|work | and various ipython notebooks do not have a heading 1 level at their top | 09:25 |
sonne|work | so the description is missing and we just have the stupid filename o_O | 09:25 |
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sonne|work | OK I see that newer ipython notebooks have no more heading fields but use markdown like # header level 1 | 10:19 |
sonne|work | so we need to add that logic to the parser | 10:19 |
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@sukey | New Comment on Pull Request "It is in the base class, but I guess i should add it here too :)" by Saurabh7: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3427#discussion_r86974307 | 12:58 |
@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 12:59 |
@sukey | New Comment on Pull Request "Can't operate on different types with eigen, I tried. " by Saurabh7: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3427#discussion_r86974413 | 12:59 |
@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 12:59 |
@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 13:04 |
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protino | Hi | 14:07 |
protino | I m facing problem in building code | 14:07 |
protino | so at present i have just set it up without any interfaces like Python . | 14:08 |
protino | Can someone help me ? | 14:09 |
protino | Procedure followed : cmake .. -DPythonModular=ON | 14:10 |
protino | Then make all gives error .. | 14:10 |
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@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 15:15 |
@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 15:16 |
@sukey | New Comment on Pull Request "You're right.. this is not necessary, but helps with readability and similar practice is followed everywhere in Shogun, so... :)" by lambday: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3427#discussion_r86995647 | 15:16 |
@sukey | New Comment on Pull Request #3427 by lambday: "Thanks @Saurabh7 .. let me know when you update the PR. | 15:17 |
@sukey | @karlnapf yeah I'll merge it then :)" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3427#issuecomment-259147083 | 15:17 |
@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 15:18 |
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@sukey | Pull Request #3518 "Adding news entry for templated LDA" opened by c4goldsw - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3518 | 15:35 |
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c4goldsw | ping wiking | 15:38 |
c4goldsw | Hey HeikoS, are you around? I submitted a patch for the news file. I saw the result of the nightly build and saw that the LDA unit test has memory leaks. | 15:42 |
@HeikoS | c4goldsw: gotta fix those :) are they new? caused by your patch? | 15:43 |
@HeikoS | c4goldsw: currently on phone but will be half reading irc | 15:43 |
c4goldsw | They're probably caused by my patch, I'd have to look at a previous build. | 15:44 |
c4goldsw | I'll get onto that then. | 15:44 |
@wiking | k | 15:50 |
@wiking | we can merge | 15:50 |
@wiking | the news | 15:50 |
@sukey | Pull Request #3518 "Adding news entry for templated LDA" merged by vigsterkr - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3518 | 15:50 |
@sukey | New Commit "Merge pull request #3518 from c4goldsw/develop | 15:50 |
@sukey | Adding news entry for templated LDA" to shogun-toolbox/shogun by vigsterkr: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/e4092bc9fc7051290d480ef75f0eba66738e3e19 | 15:50 |
@wiking | sukey, do you job | 15:50 |
@wiking | HeikoS, i reckon i should teach sukey to actually do github commands :) | 15:51 |
c4goldsw | Who's sukey? | 15:51 |
@wiking | hubot | 15:51 |
@wiking | :) | 15:51 |
c4goldsw | Dance sukey | 15:52 |
c4goldsw | Darn. | 15:52 |
@wiking | shogun-buildbot, dance | 15:52 |
shogun-buildbot | <(^.^<) | 15:52 |
shogun-buildbot | <(^.^)> | 15:52 |
shogun-buildbot | (>^.^)> | 15:52 |
shogun-buildbot | (7^.^)7 | 15:52 |
shogun-buildbot | (>^.^<) | 15:52 |
c4goldsw | sukey, dance. | 15:52 |
@wiking | that's a privilage for shogun-buildbot | 15:52 |
@wiking | :) | 15:52 |
c4goldsw | Haha, fair enough. | 15:52 |
@wiking | HeikoS, ping | 15:53 |
@wiking | ah fuck money! | 15:53 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, ping russia | 15:53 |
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@wiking | mizari, i want your tld! | 15:56 |
c4goldsw | wiking, what do SG_REF() and SG_UNREF() do again? | 15:56 |
@wiking | refernce_counter++ | 15:57 |
@wiking | reference_counter-- | 15:57 |
@wiking | if reference_counter == 0 => free memory | 15:57 |
c4goldsw | Great, thank you. | 15:58 |
@wiking | nw | 15:58 |
c4goldsw | Addios. | 15:58 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #51 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/51 blamelist: Viktor Gal <vigsterkr@gmail.com>, christopher <christopher.goldsworthy@outlook.com> | 16:02 |
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@sukey | New Comment on Pull Request "@lambday Actually that would mean I have to cast LHS and RHS feature matrix to double. I think just casting the norms is better (even if we have to cast the result matrix) , memory wise ?" by Saurabh7: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3427#discussion_r87006670 | 16:08 |
@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 16:08 |
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mizari | wiking, come visit Siberia | 16:11 |
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@wiking | :D | 16:11 |
mizari | what's with su tld anyway? | 16:12 |
mizari | pretty boring, I think | 16:12 |
@wiking | no it's not | 16:13 |
@wiking | it's almost as good as .yu | 16:13 |
@wiking | :) | 16:13 |
mizari | well, .yu is something! | 16:14 |
mizari | but .su? | 16:15 |
mizari | I'm afraid I disagree | 16:15 |
@wiking | :> | 16:15 |
@wiking | but it's cool that your provider could keep it | 16:15 |
@wiking | they took away all the .yu tlds | 16:16 |
@wiking | :< | 16:16 |
mizari | a shame | 16:16 |
@wiking | exactly | 16:17 |
@wiking | shogun-buildbot: force build --branch=develop 'bsd1 - libshogun' | 16:19 |
shogun-buildbot | build #52 forced | 16:19 |
shogun-buildbot | I'll give a shout when the build finishes | 16:19 |
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shogun-buildbot | build #52 of bsd1 - libshogun is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.shogun-toolbox.org/builders/bsd1%20-%20libshogun/builds/52 | 16:21 |
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@sukey | Received a new pull_request_review event, just so you know. | 16:35 |
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@wiking | HeikoS, ping | 16:43 |
@wiking | HeikoS, https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-science/pull/4583 | 16:43 |
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protino | make cookbook is giving error. Can someone help please ? | 17:24 |
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protino | Hi. can someone help me with make cookbook ? | 17:30 |
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@wiking | protino, what's the error/ | 17:36 |
@wiking | ? | 17:36 |
@wiking | shogun.ml/cookbook/latest/index.html | 17:36 |
@wiking | http://shogun.ml/cookbook/latest/index.html | 17:36 |
@wiking | that's 5.0.0's cookbooks | 17:37 |
protino | once i have build the source code in /shogun/build | 17:42 |
protino | then i have to goto /shogun/doc/cookbook/build | 17:42 |
protino | and the go for cmake .. and then make cookbook . | 17:42 |
@wiking | you dont need to build the src | 17:43 |
@wiking | to build cookbook | 17:43 |
@wiking | and for building cookbook | 17:43 |
protino | yes... | 17:43 |
@wiking | just run make cookbook | 17:43 |
@wiking | in shogun/build | 17:43 |
protino | insider shogun/build ?? | 17:44 |
protino | its showing no such target | 17:44 |
protino | protino@protino:~/shogun/build$ make cookbook make: *** No rule to make target `cookbook'. Stop | 17:44 |
@wiking | then you are missing some dependencies | 17:44 |
@wiking | for cookbok | 17:44 |
@wiking | *cookbook | 17:44 |
protino | once i have cloned the git repo. | 17:44 |
@wiking | make sure you have | 17:44 |
@wiking | shogun/doc/cookbook/requirements.txt | 17:44 |
protino | the i need to create the build dir . | 17:44 |
@wiking | installed | 17:44 |
@wiking | all the required packages | 17:45 |
@wiking | i.e pip install -r shogun/doc/cookbook/requirements.txt | 17:45 |
protino | ohkk.. let me try. thanks . | 17:46 |
protino | I have again downloaded the shogun code. Then create build directory . Then cmake .. -DJavaModular=ON. | 17:50 |
protino | The make cookbook is not coming as target. I have ran pip install -r shogun/doc/cookbook/requirements.txt . | 17:50 |
protino | @wiking, i have searched on all MakeFile in build/ none of them contains cookbook | 18:01 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3513 by sudk1896: "@karlnapf : I did investigate usage of `KNN_KDTREE`, after some Googling I found that it is faster than the others only on low dimensional data. In fact when I ran the tests on the `usps` dataset, The results were - | 18:20 |
@sukey | `Standard KNN took 1.9s | 18:20 |
@sukey | Covertree KNN took 1.0s | 18:20 |
@sukey | KDTree KNN took 3.7s` | 18:20 |
@sukey | How do I make changes to the notebook (the multiclass KNN one in doc folder) ? It has a very weird format and I do not know how to add the code to it. | 18:20 |
@sukey | Do you also want me add a plot for the `KNN_KDTREE` as well like the rest ? | 18:20 |
@sukey | Thanks." - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3513#issuecomment-259199737 | 18:20 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3513 by sudk1896: "@karlnapf : I did investigate usage of `KNN_KDTREE`, after some Googling I found that it is faster than the others only on low dimensional data. In fact when I ran the tests on the `usps` dataset, The results were - | 18:20 |
@sukey | `Standard KNN took 1.9s | 18:20 |
@sukey | Covertree KNN took 1.0s | 18:20 |
@sukey | KDTree KNN took 3.7s` | 18:20 |
@sukey | How do I make changes to the notebook (the multiclass KNN one in doc folder) ? It has a very weird format and I do not know how to add the code to it. | 18:20 |
@sukey | Do you also want me add a plot for the `KNN_KDTREE` as well like the rest ? | 18:20 |
@sukey | Thanks." - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3513#issuecomment-259199737 | 18:20 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3513 by sudk1896: "@karlnapf : I did investigate usage of `KNN_KDTREE`, after some Googling I found that it is faster than the others only on low dimensional data. In fact when I ran the tests on the `usps` dataset, The results were - | 18:21 |
@sukey | `Standard KNN took 1.9s` | 18:21 |
@sukey | `Covertree KNN took 1.0s` | 18:21 |
@sukey | `KDTree KNN took 3.7s` | 18:21 |
@sukey | How do I make changes to the notebook (the multiclass KNN one in doc folder) ? It has a very weird format and I do not know how to add the code to it. | 18:21 |
@sukey | Do you also want me add a plot for the `KNN_KDTREE` as well like the rest ? | 18:21 |
@sukey | Thanks." - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3513#issuecomment-259199737 | 18:21 |
@wiking | protino, after installing the dependencies | 18:40 |
@wiking | you have to re-run the cmake | 18:40 |
protino | yes.. now make cookbook ran | 18:42 |
protino | IOError: Generated listing /home/protino/shogun-shogun_5.0.0/build/examples/meta/python/gaussian_processes/gaussian_process_regression.py not found, it is expected to be created from the corresponding meta-example | 18:43 |
@wiking | ok cool | 18:43 |
@wiking | mmm error | 18:43 |
@wiking | but wait | 18:43 |
@wiking | this is not when running make cookbook | 18:44 |
@wiking | this is make meta_examples | 18:44 |
protino | nope i ran make cookbook . | 18:44 |
protino | protino@protino:~/shogun-shogun_5.0.0/build$ make cookbook [ 0%] Copying cookbook Sphinx static overrides to /home/protino/shogun-shogun_5.0.0/build/doc/cookbook/_build [ 0%] Built target cookbook_sphinx_static [ 20%] Built target ctags [100%] Built target meta_examples [100%] Copying cookbook Sphinx source to /home/protino/shogun-shogun_5.0.0/build/doc/cookbook/_build [100%] Built target cookbook_copy_source [100%] Creating Quicks | 18:44 |
protino | i have even used a stable version 5.0.0 still i m getting same error . | 18:45 |
@wiking | ok just a second | 18:49 |
@wiking | btw | 18:57 |
@wiking | can you actually checkout the git repo | 18:57 |
@wiking | do the following in it | 18:57 |
@wiking | git submodule init | 18:57 |
@wiking | git submodule update | 18:57 |
@wiking | and then ran those comes you tried | 18:57 |
protino | sure. | 18:58 |
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@HeikoS | protino: still there? | 18:59 |
@HeikoS | wiking: jo | 18:59 |
protino | Yup. | 19:00 |
@wiking | HeikoS, hey | 19:00 |
@HeikoS | wiking: I would be scared to template that | 19:00 |
@HeikoS | so messy | 19:00 |
@HeikoS | protino: what do you need help with? | 19:00 |
protino | running make cookbook gives error . | 19:00 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: | 19:01 |
@wiking | protino, plz try what i've said | 19:01 |
lisitsyn | yeah | 19:01 |
protino | sure. | 19:01 |
lisitsyn | lets move here then | 19:01 |
protino | doing that . | 19:01 |
@HeikoS | protino: ah you already talked to wiking | 19:01 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, putty | 19:01 |
protino | hmm. | 19:01 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, bitch please you answer to HeikoS here but not to me | 19:01 |
@wiking | :) | 19:01 |
lisitsyn | wiking: haha | 19:02 |
lisitsyn | no | 19:02 |
lisitsyn | I thought it is better to keep it in email | 19:02 |
@HeikoS | wiking: lisitsyn is my b*** | 19:02 |
lisitsyn | daddy | 19:02 |
@sukey | New comment by vigsterkr on Commit e4092bc9fc7051290d480ef75f0eba66738e3e19: good that you caught that :) - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/e4092bc9fc7051290d480ef75f0eba66738e3e19#commitcomment-19743687 | 19:02 |
@HeikoS | I gotta go soon | 19:03 |
lisitsyn | meh | 19:03 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, | 19:03 |
@HeikoS | but lisitsyn so I didnt get your idea | 19:03 |
@HeikoS | with the distribution thing | 19:03 |
@wiking | but lets say | 19:03 |
@wiking | you have svm | 19:03 |
@wiking | SVM(RangeDomain C) | 19:03 |
@wiking | and then svm would have 2 class param | 19:03 |
@wiking | a) actual value of C | 19:04 |
@wiking | b) the domain of C | 19:04 |
@wiking | ? | 19:04 |
lisitsyn | uhmm I've lost some messages | 19:04 |
lisitsyn | I see your a) and b) | 19:04 |
lisitsyn | is that all? | 19:04 |
@wiking | <wiking> SVM(RangeDomain C) | 19:04 |
@wiking | [13:02] <wiking> and then svm would have 2 class param | 19:04 |
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lisitsyn | ahh | 19:04 |
@wiking | that was above it | 19:04 |
lisitsyn | maybe it makes sense to separate | 19:04 |
@wiking | because we want to be able to enforce | 19:05 |
@wiking | the actual value of C | 19:05 |
@wiking | already on the API sde | 19:05 |
@wiking | so that one can only give valid values | 19:05 |
@wiking | or you would have an internal mapping | 19:05 |
@wiking | only visible in the implementation | 19:05 |
@wiking | that say | 19:05 |
lisitsyn | I would go for something like | 19:05 |
lisitsyn | you have svm kernels etc | 19:06 |
@wiking | param C = RangeValue | 19:06 |
lisitsyn | then you create some thing | 19:06 |
lisitsyn | like | 19:06 |
lisitsyn | make C be exp range 1 to 10 | 19:06 |
lisitsyn | make kernel a set of gaussian and linear | 19:06 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3513 by karlnapf: "You directly can open the notebook in your browser. Google for ipython notebook and how to use it. Then you send a standard patch on via github pull request. Please clear all output of the notebook before sending it. And also please provide an html link to a fully rendered version (say on gist)" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3513#issuecomment-259212194 | 19:06 |
lisitsyn | you pass this thing and then it tries to find something for you | 19:06 |
@HeikoS | lisitsyn: this is not only for modelselection | 19:07 |
@HeikoS | but also for value checking in getter setter | 19:07 |
@HeikoS | also callback functions should be possible to define things like prior distributions to sample from | 19:07 |
lisitsyn | but validity is much simpler | 19:07 |
@HeikoS | the linear range etc is just a very special case | 19:07 |
lisitsyn | yeah yeah but what I mean | 19:08 |
lisitsyn | I am ok with keeping svm having one value of C | 19:08 |
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@wiking | fucking ChanServ | 19:08 |
lisitsyn | it's perfect ok with me | 19:08 |
lisitsyn | not sure we need to push domains there | 19:08 |
protino | @wiking facing same error :( | 19:09 |
@wiking | protino, could you paste the whole error in pastebin.com | 19:09 |
@wiking | and paste here the url plz | 19:09 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, i mean the idea here was to have both solved in one | 19:09 |
protino | (y) | 19:09 |
@wiking | enforce value | 19:09 |
lisitsyn | both validation and selection? | 19:09 |
@wiking | and ease modelselection | 19:09 |
@wiking | yep | 19:10 |
lisitsyn | what if you already know you need C=3.0 | 19:10 |
@sukey | Issue #3519 "write a NOTEBOOKS.md readme" opened by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3519 | 19:10 |
@sukey | Issue #3519 "write a NOTEBOOKS.md readme" karlnapf added label: "entrance" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3519 | 19:10 |
@sukey | Issue #3519 "write a NOTEBOOKS.md readme" karlnapf added label: "Documentation" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3519 | 19:10 |
@wiking | if that's a valid value for | 19:10 |
@wiking | C | 19:10 |
@wiking | then you just pass that | 19:10 |
@wiking | i mean RangeValue->get() would give you back the value | 19:11 |
@HeikoS | in some sense | 19:11 |
@HeikoS | the values should be stored as before | 19:11 |
@wiking | or any operator you wish | 19:11 |
@wiking | yeah but should be encapuslated | 19:11 |
lisitsyn | ok the thing we should decide | 19:11 |
lisitsyn | is | 19:11 |
@HeikoS | but just when registering the variables as parameters, once should be able to give domain information | 19:11 |
protino | @wiking http://pastebin.com/sDjUi3bb | 19:11 |
lisitsyn | do we go for composite parameters | 19:11 |
@HeikoS | to have some model meta information in there without changing the representation of the variables in the class | 19:11 |
lisitsyn | I mean do we always assume svm has *a set of C values* | 19:12 |
lisitsyn | (in general case) | 19:12 |
@HeikoS | protino: run "make meta_examples" | 19:12 |
lisitsyn | I somehow like it but it's a change | 19:12 |
@wiking | protino, and what happens when you run make meta_examples | 19:12 |
@HeikoS | wiking: I think this might be cmake bug :) | 19:12 |
@HeikoS | cmake config error i mean | 19:12 |
lisitsyn | and it intertwines two systems together | 19:12 |
@wiking | mmm weird | 19:12 |
@wiking | because for me it triggered the meta_examples | 19:13 |
protino | @wiking that ran successfully | 19:13 |
@wiking | protino, try now again make cookbook | 19:13 |
@sukey | Issue #3520 "`make cookbook` should have `make meta_examples` as dependency" opened by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520 | 19:13 |
protino | its failing with same error | 19:13 |
@sukey | Issue #3520 "`make cookbook` should have `make meta_examples` as dependency" karlnapf added label: "BUG" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520 | 19:13 |
@sukey | Issue #3520 "`make cookbook` should have `make meta_examples` as dependency" karlnapf added label: "entrance" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520 | 19:13 |
@sukey | Issue #3520 "`make cookbook` should have `make meta_examples` as dependency"- https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520 | 19:13 |
@sukey | Issue #3520 "`make cookbook` should have `make meta_examples` as dependency" karlnapf added label: "cmake" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520 | 19:13 |
@sukey | Issue #3519 "write a NOTEBOOKS.md readme"- https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3519 | 19:13 |
@wiking | protino, The full traceback has been saved in /tmp/sphinx-err-ibn7bR.log, if you want to report the issue to the developers. | 19:13 |
@wiking | can you pastebin that content? | 19:13 |
protino | yep. | 19:14 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, i mean for me that is quite elegant | 19:14 |
@wiking | that you can validate & have the domain at once | 19:14 |
lisitsyn | yes do we all agree | 19:14 |
lisitsyn | that in general case there won't be single parameter of svm | 19:14 |
protino | @wiking http://pastebin.com/BNHtyAxp | 19:14 |
lisitsyn | there always be some set or distribution (or any other domain) | 19:15 |
@sukey | Issue #3519 "write a NOTEBOOKS.md readme"- https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3519 | 19:15 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: wiking: ^ | 19:15 |
@wiking | HeikoS, i think you fired that issue before it actually made sense :) | 19:15 |
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@wiking | protino, i reckon you have a missing dependency | 19:15 |
@wiking | thats why gaussian_process_regression.py is not generated | 19:16 |
@wiking | and but cookbook is not aware that it should not look for it | 19:16 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, yeah i reckon that that'd be a case | 19:16 |
@wiking | i mean in worse case the parameter is any number | 19:16 |
@wiking | :) | 19:16 |
@HeikoS | wiking: ok we need to fix that as well I guess? | 19:16 |
@HeikoS | ah | 19:16 |
@HeikoS | it is the guards | 19:16 |
protino | @wiking thanks i will work on that :) | 19:17 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, but yeah i would 'box' it still | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | box? | 19:17 |
@wiking | like java boxing | 19:17 |
@wiking | you know | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | yes | 19:17 |
@wiking | not a primitive type anymore | 19:17 |
@wiking | it's an object etc. | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | no primitive | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | object | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | but abstract object | 19:17 |
@wiking | yep | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | and no templates please | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | they are incompatible with interfaces | 19:17 |
lisitsyn | :P | 19:17 |
@wiking | :D | 19:17 |
@wiking | true | 19:17 |
@wiking | i was just starting a conversation man | 19:18 |
@wiking | :D | 19:18 |
lisitsyn | ok then lets have base class domain | 19:18 |
lisitsyn | an iterator + sampler | 19:18 |
@wiking | the reason i pinged you | 19:18 |
@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3520 by karlnapf: "This comes since `FindMetaExamples.cmake` sometimes removes certain meta examples. | 19:18 |
@sukey | The cookbook should still build fine, just ignoring that particular page.... " - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520#issuecomment-259215305 | 19:18 |
@wiking | because you are much better in this than any of us here | 19:18 |
@sukey | Issue #3520 "`make cookbook` fails when certain cookbooks are guarded"- https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520 | 19:18 |
@wiking | yeap the iterator sounds good | 19:18 |
@wiking | and then what if it's like | 19:18 |
@wiking | unset variable | 19:19 |
@wiking | and AnyDomain | 19:19 |
lisitsyn | not sure if we need any domain | 19:19 |
@HeikoS | iterator ?? | 19:19 |
@wiking | then basically nextValue() returns (double)random() | 19:19 |
@wiking | ? | 19:19 |
lisitsyn | ah | 19:19 |
@HeikoS | think of optimization algorithms | 19:19 |
@HeikoS | they want to propose the next value | 19:19 |
@HeikoS | from gradient or whatever | 19:19 |
lisitsyn | HeikoS: yes also gradient | 19:19 |
lisitsyn | or something | 19:19 |
@HeikoS | but the parameter itself cannot know that | 19:20 |
@HeikoS | you can only do that to generate a-priori values | 19:20 |
@HeikoS | but for me this is more about telling a parameter about its domain | 19:20 |
@wiking | ok but then you need like a validator function? :D | 19:20 |
@wiking | boolean operator() | 19:20 |
@wiking | :) | 19:20 |
@HeikoS | but then you can change representation | 19:20 |
@HeikoS | to an unconstrained domain | 19:20 |
@HeikoS | i.e. you do gradient descent for a positive variable | 19:20 |
@HeikoS | you just do gradient descent in log-space and exponentiate after every step | 19:21 |
lisitsyn | but you don't change domain when you started optimization? | 19:21 |
@HeikoS | thats different thing, that is runtime thing | 19:21 |
@wiking | HeikoS, but that search would be done on primitive types no? | 19:21 |
@HeikoS | we are here talking about things that are fix at compile time as they are linked to the model | 19:21 |
@HeikoS | wiking: yeah sure | 19:21 |
@wiking | i mean you woulnd't like run the gradient search on those boxed parameters | 19:21 |
@HeikoS | no you wouldnt | 19:22 |
@wiking | lisitsyn, ^ ? | 19:22 |
@HeikoS | so there is two things here: allowing users/coders to restrict values at their wishes | 19:22 |
@HeikoS | but there is also model parameters (like svm C) that have to be positive | 19:22 |
@HeikoS | no matter what | 19:22 |
@HeikoS | if if I search for C | 19:22 |
@HeikoS | I do that in an unconstrained space, say real line | 19:23 |
@HeikoS | and then I take exp after | 19:23 |
lisitsyn | why compile time? | 19:23 |
@HeikoS | for the actual value | 19:23 |
@HeikoS | because C is always positive | 19:23 |
@HeikoS | not matter what | 19:23 |
lisitsyn | we won't have any compile time thing at all | 19:23 |
@wiking | yeah actually true | 19:23 |
@HeikoS | sorry, I mean model definition time | 19:23 |
lisitsyn | ah | 19:23 |
@wiking | we should not depend on compile time :P | 19:23 |
@HeikoS | but thats different to user selects subset of domain | 19:23 |
@wiking | (nod) | 19:23 |
@HeikoS | or like user defines search space for grid search | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | ok ok lets make domain an entity | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | entitify it :D | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | what can we do with domain? | 19:24 |
@wiking | :>>> | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | and what can domain tell us? | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | I have two things in mind | 19:24 |
@HeikoS | the whole idea came up because of this: | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | we can retrieve all its values | 19:24 |
@HeikoS | horrific construction: | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | and we can sample a value | 19:24 |
lisitsyn | what else? | 19:25 |
@HeikoS | https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/develop/src/shogun/kernel/GaussianKernel.cpp#L99 | 19:25 |
@HeikoS | and we have a few of those explicit reparametrisations | 19:25 |
@HeikoS | since they are needed | 19:25 |
lisitsyn | well I don't see a problem with that - is it? | 19:26 |
@HeikoS | but here for kernel bandwidth, it just makes much more sense to store the log value | 19:26 |
@HeikoS | well automate this thing | 19:26 |
@HeikoS | git grep 'must be positive' | 19:27 |
@wiking | lol | 19:27 |
@HeikoS | I gotta run, sorry :) lets discuss more later | 19:27 |
@HeikoS | I mean with me, you two go ahead :) | 19:27 |
@HeikoS | protino: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520 | 19:28 |
@HeikoS | protino: bundle nlopt, then this should work, but it is a bug in our configuration script | 19:28 |
@HeikoS | protino: check the FindMetaExamples.cmake file, there some of them are excluded if some dependency is not met | 19:28 |
lisitsyn | ok let me think about it then | 19:28 |
@HeikoS | if you install all dependencies (or bundle them), then it should work | 19:28 |
@HeikoS | protino: but you can also just use the website cookbook, and look at the generated example code listings locally | 19:29 |
protino | yep. well i wanted to contributed to cookbook so once i start writing them i would need to run them locally. | 19:30 |
protino | *contribute | 19:30 |
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@wiking | protino, if you are too lazy | 19:34 |
@wiking | you can always send in prs | 19:34 |
@wiking | and check the output | 19:34 |
@wiking | of the PR buildbot | 19:34 |
@wiking | ;) | 19:34 |
protino | @wiking thanks. i will try to resolve it else resort to buildbot :) | 19:35 |
@wiking | yeah but nlopt should solve your problem | 19:38 |
@wiking | or send in the patch that skips cookbooks | 19:38 |
@wiking | for which you dont have the dependency | 19:38 |
@wiking | either is fine | 19:38 |
@wiking | :) | 19:38 |
@sonney2k | wiking, where is that script doing the ipynb parsing? | 19:48 |
@sonney2k | wiking, seems like you didn't fix the title of nb's yet right? | 19:49 |
@wiking | sonney2k, no idea :) | 19:49 |
@wiking | sonney2k, all notebook relates stuff | 19:50 |
@wiking | is in infra repo | 19:50 |
@wiking | it's not autodeploy yet | 19:50 |
@wiking | so ping me if you updated things in it | 19:50 |
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@sukey | New Comment on Issue #3520 by IOcodegeass: "I faced this problem. And installing **nlopt** solved it. | 20:43 |
@sukey | Thanks :)" - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/3520#issuecomment-259238095 | 20:43 |
@sonney2k | wiking, gmane is dead http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.machine-learning.shogun | 20:56 |
@wiking | yep | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | so our mailinglist archive is gone | 20:57 |
@wiking | i know | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | do we have a replacement | 20:57 |
@wiking | we need to enable | 20:57 |
@wiking | archive | 20:57 |
@wiking | in our mailman | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | it is not mailman | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | or did you convert the list? | 20:57 |
@wiking | no | 20:57 |
@wiking | i didn't touch | 20:57 |
@wiking | but i remember a mailman -like admin site :D | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | I thought that was for gsoc | 20:57 |
@sonney2k | wiking, nice that we have a shogun tag on stack overflow now :) | 20:58 |
@wiking | \p/ | 21:00 |
@sonney2k | btw what happened to shogun-cloud? | 21:01 |
@sonney2k | the link is broken on the website too.. | 21:01 |
@sonney2k | and the interactive examples? | 21:01 |
@sonney2k | all gone? | 21:01 |
@wiking | sonney2k, working on it | 21:05 |
@wiking | but we didn't want to wait with the release | 21:05 |
@wiking | since it's a bigger revamp | 21:05 |
@wiking | but soon soon | 21:05 |
@wiking | demos is still existing | 21:06 |
@wiking | maybe redirection needs fixing | 21:06 |
@sonney2k | wiking, the website doesn't cover them anymore (well not working now but still nice demos IMHO) | 21:07 |
@wiking | http://demos.shogun-toolbox.org/regression/svr/ | 21:07 |
@wiking | works | 21:07 |
@wiking | just no reference | 21:07 |
@sonney2k | wiking, so where do we put the references? | 21:14 |
@wiking | anywhere | 21:14 |
@wiking | but be ncie :) | 21:14 |
@sonney2k | we used to have screenshots and some wheel thingy | 21:16 |
@wiking | mmmm | 21:16 |
@wiking | shogun-web repo woudl have that for sure | 21:16 |
@sonney2k | hell nips.cc is sold out this year | 21:17 |
@wiking | lol | 21:17 |
@wiking | :) | 21:17 |
@wiking | bcn is popular | 21:17 |
@sonney2k | well cheap to get to from europe.. | 21:17 |
@sonney2k | and cool | 21:18 |
@sonney2k | agreed | 21:18 |
@sonney2k | almost as hip as berlin is :P | 21:18 |
@wiking | https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.06049v2.pdf | 21:18 |
@wiking | :) | 21:18 |
@wiking | hahahaha | 21:18 |
@sonney2k | I don't know where to put it on the site | 21:20 |
@sonney2k | wiking, can't kevin invent something nice? | 21:20 |
@wiking | dunno | 21:21 |
@sonney2k | I must be the super web guru by now... | 21:21 |
@wiking | he is not around for a long time | 21:21 |
@sonney2k | of course not he likely has a life :P | 21:21 |
@wiking | :> | 21:21 |
@sonney2k | wiking, so we have sgtb.eu | 21:24 |
@sonney2k | shogun.ml | 21:24 |
@sonney2k | shogun-toolbox.org | 21:24 |
@wiking | yes | 21:24 |
@sonney2k | did I forget any :P | 21:25 |
@wiking | not that i know of | 21:25 |
@sonney2k | wiking, another broken link http://www.shogun-toolbox.org/page/about/contributions | 21:42 |
@sonney2k | See our list of integrated external libraries. | 21:42 |
@wiking | mm | 21:42 |
@sonney2k | wiking, okido ... let me get some sleep | 21:43 |
@sonney2k | cu! | 21:44 |
@wiking | :) | 21:46 |
@wiking | gnite | 21:46 |
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