IRC logs of #shogun for Wednesday, 2017-02-08

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@sukeyNew Commit "[WIP] refactor cmake project05:53
@sukeyadd support for building modular interfaces depending on an external05:53
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@sukeyNew Commit "[WIP] refactor cmake project11:47
@sukeyadd support for building modular interfaces depending on an external11:47
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@wikingHeikoS, fuck fuck kcuf11:53
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abhinavPing : Wiking14:46
@wikingpong14:47
abhinavHey wiking I was working on adding Scala14:47
abhinavhttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/3606/files14:48
abhinavI have made some changes for detecting scala-library.jar14:48
abhinavNow I am using find_jar() function14:48
abhinavIs this ok ?14:48
@wikingdoes it work for you?14:49
abhinavYeah it does14:49
@wikingok col14:49
@wikingcool14:49
@wikingthen it's good14:49
@wikingbut you are still missing14:49
@wikingcrucial part of a Find<Target>.cmake file14:49
@wikingi told you14:50
abhinavI have added sbt to the DockerFile14:50
@wikingno14:50
@wikingi'm talking about14:50
@wikingFind<Target>.cmake14:50
abhinavApart from this you told me mark_as_advanced()14:51
abhinavwas old school14:51
@wikingfind_package_handle_standard_args14:51
@wikingmark_as_advanced14:51
@wikingthese are still missing14:51
@wikingi told you about find_package_handle_standard_args14:51
@wikingright?14:51
@wikingmake sure that you extract in the cmake file14:51
@wikingthe version of the scala14:51
@wikingso later we can require a given version of scala14:52
abhinavOh I misunderstood a little14:53
abhinavHey wiking. Is this fine ?15:54
abhinavif(Scala_SCALA_EXECUTABLE)15:54
abhinav    execute_process(COMMAND ${Scala_SCALA_EXECUTABLE} -version15:54
abhinav      RESULT_VARIABLE SCALA_SEARCH_SUCCESS15:54
abhinav      ERROR_VARIABLE SCALA_VERSION15:54
abhinav      OUTPUT_STRIP_TRAILING_WHITESPACE)15:54
abhinav    if( SCALA_SEARCH_SUCCESS )15:54
abhinav      message( FATAL_ERROR "Error executing scala -version" )15:54
abhinav    endif()15:54
abhinavendif()15:54
abhinavinclude(FindPackageHandleStandardArgs)15:54
abhinavif (CMAKE_VERSION LESS 2.8.3)15:54
abhinav  find_package_handle_standard_args(SCALA DEFAULT_MSG SCALA_VERSION)15:54
abhinavelse ()15:54
abhinav  find_package_handle_standard_args(SCALA REQUIRED_VARS SCALA_VERSION)15:54
@wikingabhinav, please use pastebin.com15:54
abhinavendif ()15:54
abhinavmark_as_advanced(15:54
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abhinav  Scala_SCALA_EXECUTABLE15:54
abhinav  Scala_SCALAC_EXECUTABLE15:54
abhinav  Scala_JAR_EXECUTABLE15:54
abhinav)15:54
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abhinavHey wiking : Sorry15:55
@wikingabhinav, pastebin.com15:56
abhinavYeah I'll never do this again15:56
abhinavhttp://pastebin.com/abku89gZ15:58
abhinavJust wanna say that output is being stored in stderr and not in stdout15:59
@wikingmmm16:03
@wikingabhinav, please read manual of cmake16:03
@wiking  find_package_handle_standard_args(SCALA REQUIRED_VARS SCALA_VERSION)16:03
@wikingis wrong16:03
@wikinghttps://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.0/module/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.html16:03
abhinavYeah I'll add the variables.16:06
abhinavAnd the version being accessed using ERROR_VARIABLE shouldn't be a problem16:07
abhinav?16:07
@wikingis that working/16:10
@wikingi mean sorry i'm not a compiler16:10
@wikinguse your machine16:10
@wikingto do these tests16:10
abhinavYeah it's working and I am getting the output16:10
@wikingno it's not that variables that are missing16:10
@wikingin16:10
@wikingfind_package_handle_standard_args16:10
@wikingyou are using it wrong16:10
@wikingif you set version16:11
@wikingthen you should do ... VERSION_VAR SCALA_VERSION16:11
@wikingetc16:11
@wikingplz read man16:11
abhinavSorry. I'll just first go through and make sure everything is right16:11
abhinavThanks16:11
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@HeikoSwiking: !17:05
@wiking!17:05
@HeikoSwiking: jojo17:08
@HeikoSwiking: I see things happening17:08
@HeikoSwiking: btw you know about our mailing list archives?17:08
@wikinggmane17:08
@wikingyes17:08
@sukeyWiki page: Home edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf17:08
@wikingapparently itll come back17:09
@wikingbut dunno17:09
@wikingmaybe never17:09
@HeikoSI see17:09
@HeikoSlink on website is dead17:09
@HeikoSI already got like 10 emails17:09
@HeikoSabout that17:09
@HeikoSsince gsoc students write to me17:09
@HeikoSwithout reading ANYTHING that I wrote in the wiki before writing17:10
@sukeyWiki page: Google-Summer-of-Code-2017-Projects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf17:10
@wikingbut they can sign up for the mailing list17:11
@wikingan write17:11
@wikingjust the archive is dead17:11
@HeikoSI know17:11
@HeikoSwiking: so in terms of projects17:11
@HeikoSwiking: you have a minute to discuss?17:11
@wikingyeah17:11
@sukeyWiki page: Google-Summer-of-Code-2017-Projects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf17:11
@wikingalthough it's 12pm17:11
@HeikoSwiking: cool17:11
@wikingso i'm getting tired17:11
@HeikoSIll be quick17:11
@wikingbut shoot17:11
@HeikoSjust give me some y/n17:11
@wikingit's not up to your quickness17:11
@wiking:)))17:11
@HeikoSinstallation project?17:11
@wikingit's my mind17:11
@wikingah yeah that is still open17:12
@wikingalthough17:12
@wikinghonestly17:12
@wikingby the time gsoc starts17:12
@wikingit'll be done17:12
@wikingecause we need it17:12
@HeikoSwhat about combining with other things around that17:12
@HeikoSlike maven17:12
@HeikoSetc17:12
@HeikoSwindows installer17:12
@HeikoSstill work17:12
@wikingyeah thats' what i meant17:12
@wikingthat'll be done by then17:13
@wikingmarch 1517:13
@HeikoSmmh ok17:13
@wikingmaven + windows + python17:13
@HeikoSso you think not do the project?17:13
@HeikoSkk17:13
@HeikoSwiking: next is unified ML interface & tags17:13
@HeikoSI kind of want to integrate tags before gsoc17:13
@HeikoSbut this still gives room to design the core interface API17:14
@wikingeah i mean itd be good to integrate gsoc16 stuff before gsoc1717:14
@wiking;D17:14
@HeikoSis that worth a project?17:14
@HeikoSwiking: yeah I know ;)17:14
@wikingmm17:14
@wikingfull proj17:14
@wikingno i dont think so17:14
@HeikoSthe API thing might be cool to do17:14
@HeikoSlike review other packages for API ideas17:14
@HeikoSetc17:14
@HeikoSand then the refactor17:14
@HeikoSand plugin stuff of course17:15
@HeikoSwiking: so you think that should also be cancelled?17:15
@wikingy17:15
@HeikoSkkj17:15
@HeikoSwiking: next one: detox 217:16
@HeikoSwhich will be be: file writers, cereal integration, and more things (which ones)17:16
@wikinghehe there's a lot for that :)17:16
@HeikoSok17:16
@wikingcereal needs merging17:16
@HeikoSwhat topics you think can go in?17:16
@wikingso forget that17:16
@wikingfile writers?17:16
@HeikoSwiking: and readers17:16
@wikingwhat is that?17:16
@HeikoSwiking: I had the csvreader bug in mind for example17:17
@wikingother than that17:17
@wiking?17:17
@HeikoSwiking: I guess openmp / pthread madness could go in17:17
@HeikoSsmart pointers17:17
@HeikoSI mean generally cleaning up those IO classes17:18
@wikingfile writers readers =  I had the csvreader bug in mind for example => other than that in that area?17:18
@HeikoSthe streaming stuff17:18
@HeikoSas in streaming framework is quite a pain17:18
@wikingyeah i mean for detox 2 there's shitload17:18
@wikingonly thing is that we need somebody who works fast17:18
@HeikoSok so Ill update the page and then we can go from there17:18
@HeikoSwiking: sure, but this is now for application17:19
@HeikoSsince deadline is tomorrow and then they will start checking17:19
@wikingah the ideas17:19
@wikingmmm when's the deadline?17:19
@wikingexactemente17:19
@HeikoStomorrow deadline17:19
@HeikoSwiking: ok then, lets keep detox and I will work on that17:19
@wikingwhat i mean17:19
@wikingEXACT UTC TIME17:19
@HeikoSwiking: next one: efficiency17:19
@HeikoSwiking: doesnt matter, we have applied already17:20
@HeikoSthis is more for when they check the ideas pages etc17:20
@wikingFebruary 9 16:00 UTC17:20
@wikingyeah in know17:20
@wikingi wanna add there stuff17:20
@wikingbefore17:20
@wikingthat deadline17:20
@HeikoSunless they freeze them at that time17:20
@wikingbut ok in the morning i can17:20
@HeikoSI will work now17:20
@HeikoSso efficiency, usualy suspects there is tons of stuff17:20
@HeikoSso that stays17:20
@HeikoSthen the kaggle pipeline thing17:20
@wikingmmm17:21
@HeikoSthat has to be written, will do today, you got comments on that one?17:21
@wikingthat could be distingueshed17:21
@HeikoSlike "make it easy to use shogun for supervised prediction"17:21
@wikingif i could spell that'd be great17:21
@wikingmmm so i mean applying to kaggle competitions17:21
@wikinggreat17:21
@wikingbut we need a way to easily define pipelines17:21
@wikinganyhow17:21
@HeikoSmostly: feature extraction / stacking, model-selection, ensemble17:22
@HeikoSparallelisation17:22
@wikingyeah17:22
@HeikoSbut yeah can go wild with this17:22
@HeikoSbut I want it more to be filling the gaps in the framework17:22
@HeikoScool17:22
@HeikoSthen interfaces17:22
@HeikoSSWIG: matlab, julia17:22
@HeikoSjs17:22
@wikingjulia = forget no swig17:22
@wikingmatlab yes17:22
@wikingjs yes17:23
@HeikoSso matlab and js17:23
@HeikoSand then cleaning up maybe17:23
@HeikoSlike figure out the lua problems with overloadin17:23
@wikingyeah17:23
@HeikoSok17:23
@HeikoSand finally: application17:23
@wikingthere's shitload of things to do17:23
@wikingwith interfaces17:23
@HeikoSI have the idea to write a general proposal, that describes using shogun to solve some problem /reproduce something17:23
@wikingok17:24
@HeikoSand then outcome is self contained docker17:24
@wikingso have you read my email17:24
@wikingabout the eco people?17:24
@HeikoSlet me do17:24
@HeikoSah yeah17:24
@HeikoSfor example17:24
@HeikoSthing is17:24
@HeikoSlea has some cool ideas as well, she wanted to propose a concrete application project17:24
@HeikoSaround data-based journalism17:24
@HeikoSi havent read that yet, but might be cool17:24
@HeikoSit is kind of borderline in terms of relevance for us, but I think could be cool and is sort of minimal effort17:25
@HeikoSas we can just define deliverables17:25
@HeikoSand then its more independent than the other projects17:25
@wikingye17:25
@HeikoSkk17:25
@wikingah yeah now i remember17:25
@wikingwe alked about this17:25
@HeikoSyes17:25
@wikingcompletely selfcontained17:26
@wikingstuff17:26
@wiking'go wild'17:26
@wikingwe could have like 3 of these :D17:26
@HeikoSI know17:26
@HeikoSbut need project ideas17:26
@wikingkk17:26
@HeikoSso I will write one generic17:26
@HeikoSand one concrete17:26
@wikingyeah i have that one17:26
@HeikoSthen we can see17:26
@wikingand i'll try to come up with others17:26
@wikinglike17:26
@wikingother one is this17:26
@wikingintegrate shogun with quantlib and http://opensourcerisk.org/17:26
@wikingaaah fuck17:26
@wikingthere it goas17:27
@wikinggoes17:27
@wikingTYPE17:27
@wiking:)17:27
@wikingso type definitions17:27
@wikinglike in stan17:27
@wikingthat'd be great17:27
@HeikoSI see17:27
@wikingeasy to define the problem17:27
@HeikoSis that detox?17:27
@HeikoSor on its own17:27
@wikinginvolves a lot of manual labor17:27
@wikingafter the header is done17:27
@HeikoSopen risk is a cool idea17:27
@HeikoSthen in terms of algos17:28
@wikingit's all c++17:28
@HeikoSI thought: time-series (Gaussian state space models), maybe approximate kernel method17:28
@HeikoSmaybe large-scale GPs17:28
@HeikoSall depending on applicants17:28
@HeikoSbut these are the ones that we can mentor17:28
@HeikoSand your solver thing17:28
@wikingyep17:28
@HeikoSKKT17:28
@wikingoh that'd be great17:29
@wiking:>17:29
@HeikoScool17:29
@HeikoSthanks then17:29
@HeikoSI will polish the wiki now17:29
@HeikoSI already can tell you what will get most applicants:17:29
@HeikoSusual suspects2 and the kaggle thing17:29
@HeikoSwonder whether we should have more stuff on deep learning17:29
@HeikoSbut that can also go under efficiency17:29
@HeikoSmaybe autoencoder ...17:30
@HeikoStheo is now at geometric intelligence / uber so he cannot mentor I guess17:30
@wikingautodif17:30
@wiking:D17:30
@HeikoSah yeah17:30
@HeikoSthat would be cool17:30
@wikingbut for that17:30
@wikingwe shoudl have types17:30
@wiking:>17:30
@HeikoSRahul had some ideas and prototypes17:30
@HeikoSok Ill write that down as well17:30
@HeikoSwould be good for later17:30
@wikingyeah17:31
@wikinganyhow17:31
@HeikoScool17:31
@wikingmany many things17:31
@wikingand fuck colpack17:31
@wiking:D17:31
@HeikoSyep indeed17:31
@HeikoSthat will be banned to plugin soon :)17:31
@wikinghave u seen he tf fold?17:32
@HeikoSseen what?17:32
@wikinghttps://github.com/tensorflow/fold17:32
@HeikoSnope17:32
@HeikoSah nice17:32
@HeikoSso finally somebody is doing that stuff :)17:33
@wikingmmm17:34
@wikingdo you use17:34
@wikingjinja2 in tests/meta17:34
@wikingno right?17:34
@HeikoSehm17:36
@HeikoSno dont think17:36
@HeikoSbut I might have forgotten17:36
@HeikoSimplicitly maybe17:36
@HeikoSthere is requirements.txt17:36
@wikingi'm currently fully rewamping cmake17:39
@HeikoSi see it17:40
@HeikoSscary17:40
@wikingwell i need this17:40
@wikingto be able to build modular interfaces17:40
@wikingto an already installed libshogun17:40
@wikingconsequently17:41
@wikingthe ./CMakeLists.txt is only 845 lines17:42
@wikinginstead of 124117:42
@wiking68% \o/17:43
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CaBahey people18:01
@wikingy018:04
@HeikoSCaBa: jojo18:13
@HeikoSwiking: thats cool !18:13
@HeikoSwiking: does it work already?18:13
@HeikoSI have the feeling that this is hard ;)18:13
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@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_kaggle created on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf18:39
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_kaggle edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf18:44
@HeikoSwiking: you still there?18:44
@HeikoSwiking: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/wiki/GSoC_2017_project_kaggle18:44
@HeikoSlisitsyn: ^18:44
@sukeyWiki page: Google-Summer-of-Code-2017-Projects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf18:47
CaBais there an explanation on what "locking" means in the shogun work somewhere out there? in the wiki or so?18:52
CaBa*world18:52
@HeikoSCaBa: nope :)19:00
@HeikoSbut youre lucky19:00
@HeikoSI wrote that :)19:01
CaBaehm - okay ^^19:01
@HeikoSso it is just precomputing the kernel in cross-validation19:01
CaBaand then subsetting on the precomputed kernel matrix?19:01
@HeikoSyep19:01
@HeikoSit is some way of hiding all that to the outside19:02
CaBasome kernels don't support locking iirc. what are the prerequisites?19:02
@HeikoShttp://www.shogun-toolbox.org/api/latest/classshogun_1_1CKernelMachine.html19:02
@HeikoSthis is almost the only class which implements it properly19:02
@HeikoSlocking is more a thing of CMachine19:03
CaBahm. i remember something in the context of string features i think where i ran into a message telling me that locking isn't supported..19:04
@HeikoSyeah a machine might not support it19:04
@HeikoSmmh19:04
@HeikoSI mean check the code19:04
CaBaI'm using only CLibSVM19:04
CaBaand CMKLClassification19:04
CaBathey are derived from CKernelMachine so they should be fine i guess ;)19:04
@HeikoShttp://www.shogun-toolbox.org/api/latest/KernelMachine_8cpp_source.html19:05
@HeikoSline 62319:05
@HeikoSwhen you lock, you can only call train_locked apply_locked after19:05
@HeikoSnot the normal ones19:05
CaBaaah see - combined kernel19:05
@HeikoSI think yes19:05
@HeikoSah19:05
@HeikoSyeah19:05
CaBaso CMKLClassification won't do ;)19:05
@HeikoSnope19:05
@HeikoSso you cannot make it precompute the kernel19:06
@HeikoSbut you can still precompute it yourself19:06
@HeikoS(I think=)19:06
@HeikoSCaBa: ah man19:06
@HeikoSthis looks llike we can spend a while GSoC project just on the stuff you are trying to do :)19:06
CaBalol19:06
CaBai mean technically... precomputing all the subkernels and subsetting within them should be doable, right?19:07
@HeikoSI think19:07
CaBaif i understand you correctly, currently the precomputed kernel matrix resides in CMachine?19:08
CaBaCKernelMachine19:08
@HeikoSCMachine19:09
@HeikoSand kernel machine specialises it so yes19:09
CaBaHeikoS: the locking just replaces the actual kernel with a custom kernel internally?19:11
@HeikoSyep19:12
@HeikoSand thats why we need to avoid calling the other methods (that dont know about that=)19:12
@HeikoSso quite dirty19:12
@HeikoS;)19:12
@sukeyIssue #2113 "CSGObject: all parameters needed in generic base class?" closed by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/211319:13
CaBaHeikoS: so maybe a CCombinedCustomKernel class would help bring that to CMKL and downstream?19:14
CaBadesignwise i mean...19:15
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_detox edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf19:20
@sukeyIssue #1031 "Serialization/Migration framework problem" closed by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/103119:30
@sukeyIssue #869 "Register parameters for serialisation/model-selection (easy)" closed by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/86919:30
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_detox edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf19:31
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_detox edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf19:33
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_detox edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf19:34
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@sukeyNew Commit "[WIP] refactor cmake project19:38
@sukeyadd support for building modular interfaces depending on an external19:38
@sukeyprebuilt libshogun" to shogun-toolbox/shogun by vigsterkr: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/66ee2f0f43228e9bffa348b28527666db5b82fa319:38
lisitsynhey HeikoS19:51
@HeikoSlisitsyn:  jo19:51
lisitsynI wasn't following gsoc stuff19:51
lisitsyndoes it make sense to proof read19:51
lisitsyn?19:51
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_fundamental_usual_suspects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf19:51
@HeikoSyes read the kaggle thing19:51
@HeikoSI am currently working on the other descriptions19:52
@HeikoSwant to get them down before tomorrow deadline19:52
@HeikoSas I am afraid that they clone the html then19:52
@HeikoSso it is fair19:52
@HeikoSlisitsyn: btw19:53
@HeikoSwe need to merge tags before gsoc19:53
@HeikoSreally need to19:53
@HeikoSand do something about the plugins19:53
lisitsynok I should really schedule some work on this19:54
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_fundamental_usual_suspects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf19:56
@sukeyWiki page: Google-Summer-of-Code-2017-Projects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf19:57
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_swig edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf20:00
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travis-ciit's Viktor Gal's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/19971072720:20
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@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2016_project_fundamental_usual_suspects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:15
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2016_project_fundamental_usual_suspects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:17
@sukeyWiki page: Google-Summer-of-Code-2017-Projects edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:19
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_kaggle edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by lgoetz23:27
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_swig edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:30
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_swig edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:32
@sukeyIssue #2584 "SWIG: Write simple unit tests for type maps" closed by karlnapf - https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/issues/258423:32
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_swig edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:33
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_project_kaggle edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by lgoetz23:35
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2016_project_approx_kernels edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:39
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2015_project_deep_learning edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:43
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_applications created on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:49
@sukeyWiki page: GSoC_2017_applications edited on shogun-toolbox/shogun by karlnapf23:51
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