IRC logs of #shogun for Wednesday, 2018-07-11

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--- Log opened Wed Jul 11 00:00:03 2018
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@sukey[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4352 synchronized by vinx1302:56
@sukey[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4348 synchronized by vinx1302:57
wuweiwiking: hi11:02
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sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4356 synchronized by shubham80812:34
@wikingwuwei, hey13:11
@wikingwuwei, sorry still jetlagged13:11
wuweihi13:11
wuweiwiking: i think we need to discuss about plans for this and following weeks13:12
@wikingcool13:12
@wikingjust one question https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/434813:12
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travis-ciit's Shubham Shukla's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shubham808/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shubham808/shogun/builds/40259985413:13
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@wikingi would do the REQUIRE should be using different exception13:13
@wikingthan ShogunException13:13
wuweisure13:14
wuweiwe have MachineNotFitted, do we need TransformerNotFitted ?13:15
@HeikoSWhat about "NotFittedException"13:16
wuweiyeah cool13:16
@wikingwuwei, other than that the feature branch seems to be ready13:19
wuweibtw features view pr is to that feaeture branch13:21
wuweii thought i would be helpful to continue from factor have been made, so i opened that pr to  feature/transformers13:22
@wikingmmmm13:22
@wikingi see13:24
@wikingthat's gonna be a bit scary :)13:24
@wikingbut it's ok for the time being13:24
@wikingwe can change the pr to be merged into a different branch13:24
@wikingso i would like to get 4348 fixed13:25
wuweiokay13:25
@wikingand then merge it and then merge feature/transformers into develop13:25
wuweido we need to move converter/ and preproc/  to transformer/13:29
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travis-ciit's Wuwei Lin's turn to pay the next round of drinks for the massacre he caused in shogun-toolbox/shogun: https://travis-ci.org/shogun-toolbox/shogun/builds/40211883814:05
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@wikingwuwei, could :)14:12
@wikingbut it's not necessary14:12
@wikingat this point imo14:12
wuweisure14:13
wuweii'll put it in the future14:13
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4348 synchronized by vinx1314:19
@wikingbtw http://grammarist.com/usage/fit-fitted/14:20
@wiking:)14:20
wuweimmm14:22
@wikingi didn't know just sharing :)14:22
@wikinganyhow it's good14:22
@wikingjust change from check_fitted to is_fitted()14:22
@wikingthat'd be a more standard way14:23
@wikingto query the state of the obj14:23
wuweihaha14:23
wuweicheck_fitted may throw exception, so maybe assert_fitted is better?14:24
wuweiit doesn't have return value14:24
@wikingah yeah14:24
@wikingnow i see14:24
@wikingyeah assert_fitted() is good in this case14:25
@wikingbut the m_fitted param should be registered as is_fitted14:25
@wikingso we can do later14:25
@wikingget("is_fitted")14:25
wuweiyeah14:25
@wikingi know it'd be easier to have14:25
@wikingget("fitted") (shorter)14:25
@wikingbut somehow i feel the is_fitted represents better what that value is about14:26
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4348 synchronized by vinx1314:30
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4348 merged by vigsterkr14:31
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] vigsterkr pushed 6 commits:14:31
sukey1https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/87e13afdd73a49eb8fe7dc5765144ddd22eff68c14:31
@wikingok14:31
sukey1https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/54e0afae103de0bce86638cee4d8c7d6c498375a14:31
sukey1https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/c492857d5d2066decdf6088ea4cfb9fae46dc3e014:32
sukey1https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/d53dc1ca353a712d2462e6e9ee9d548514ef088414:32
sukey1https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/a21872622d28fd71d1a4aa3da9f980329b48e35214:32
sukey1https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/a241ab14506083f1844187a2a5e62b45ba99b91014:32
@wikingwuwei, lets see what the CIs say and if all good i'll merge the whole branch into develop14:32
@wikingfinally :)14:32
@wikingthis is an amazing feature!14:32
@wikingpipeline + typed exceptions + transformers!14:32
wuweicool!14:32
@wikinggreat great stuff!14:32
wuweiwiking: what's next?14:34
wuweii've been working on dense features these days14:35
wuweilast pr is https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/436514:35
@wikingok14:38
@wikingremember that we had a small task14:38
@wikingabout CV and pipeline14:38
@wikingi mean to have a cookbook about that14:38
@wikingthat uses PruneSubVarMean + a linear machine or something14:39
wuweisure14:39
wuweibtw on-the-fly transformer currently doesn't with dense features14:40
@wikingmmmm why?14:41
wuweiit will need some refactor on DenseFeatures::get_feature_vector14:41
wuweibecause the original code in get_feature_vector actually doesn't call preprocessors14:41
@wikingargh14:42
wuweihttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/blob/f10f3ef2b28b7a5f0e137b3e4a7f8abf80a64201/src/shogun/features/DenseFeatures.cpp#L12014:42
wuweiit will return from this line14:42
@wikingouch14:43
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4294 closed by iglesias14:51
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4337 closed by iglesias14:52
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@wikingiglesias, why close?!14:55
@wikingman we can still salvage things from there :)14:55
iglesiasyeah14:55
iglesiasstill possible to do even if it is close ;-)14:55
iglesiaswell closed14:55
iglesiaswiking: is there a garbage collector for closed PRs or something like that? :P14:56
@wiking:>14:57
iglesiasso this is the project eventually: https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4216/files14:58
iglesiasand one or two other cookbooks iirc14:58
iglesiaswiking: we had a lunch discussion about Zurich yesterday15:00
@wiking?15:00
@wikingwhere?15:01
iglesiasjust at job15:01
@wikingah what was it about? :)15:01
iglesiasjust sharing something I found surprising15:01
iglesiasI heard that phd student salary in Zurich ~ 72k euro / year15:01
@wikingye15:01
@wiking:)15:01
iglesiasI googled it up15:01
@wikingi mean it depends on the subject (which is crazy imo)15:02
iglesiasand someone was saying "yeah, you can also make that in fast food around here"15:02
iglesiasxD15:02
@wikingbut yeah CS phd is around that15:02
@wikinghumanities phd would get much less unfortunately15:02
@wikingbut if you are doing a hipster phd then its the case15:02
iglesiasthat doesn't sound fair in principle15:02
iglesiashahahaha hphd15:02
@wikingyeah hphd15:02
@wiking:)15:02
iglesiashphd in layers15:03
@wikingeyyeye LAYER IT!15:03
@wikingbut on the other hand that's true15:03
@wikingthat if you do basic job you woulnd't get much less15:03
iglesiasthis thesis proves that we need more layers; always, more layers15:03
@wikingwhich i like a lot15:03
@wikingbut still there's a quite huge gap here as well15:03
@wikingbetween the lowest and the highest income :)15:03
@wikingas usual15:03
@wiking:>15:03
iglesiasyeah15:03
iglesiasI guess it is also the case around here15:04
@wikingbut yeah afaik a shop clerk would get around 5k/month15:04
iglesiasI see lot of Teslas around xD15:04
iglesiasespecially in the High Tech Campus15:04
@wikingbut then again cost of living is high here... sooo....15:04
@wikingit's all about the ratios15:04
iglesiasYes, indeed! It has to be taken together (salary + cost of living), I check numbeo for this stuff15:05
@wikingah yeah15:05
@wikingthere was a website15:05
@wikingabout this15:05
@wiking:)15:05
iglesiashttps://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Netherlands&country2=Germany&city1=Eindhoven&city2=Berlin15:06
iglesiashttps://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Switzerland&country2=Germany&city1=Zurich&city2=Berlin15:06
iglesiasvamos todos a Berlin15:06
iglesiaswhere it all started xD15:06
@wikingheheh15:06
@wikingiglesias, ping sonney2k_ he has a lot of open position at tomtom15:06
@wiking:)15:06
iglesiaswiking: let me show one thing I read some weeks ago15:07
iglesiashttps://www.think-cell.com/en/career/jobs/development.shtml15:07
@wikingcheck this iglesias https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Switzerland&country2=Serbia15:08
@wiking:D15:08
iglesias"A competitive salary from the start and a raise to EUR 120,000 annually after only one year"15:08
iglesiasunbelievable15:08
@wikingah yeah so you are listening to cpp cast as well15:08
@wiking:)))15:08
@wiking(they always advertise there)15:08
iglesiassi15:09
@wikingbut i mean even this is crazy15:09
@wikinghttps://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Netherlands&country2=Serbia15:09
@wiking:)15:09
iglesiasalso saw it in the meetingc++ conf website15:09
iglesiasthey are one of the sponsors apparently15:09
@wiking"Consumer Prices Including Rent in Serbia are 59.35% lower than in Netherlands"15:09
@wiking:D15:09
iglesiaswow man the average salary is insane too15:09
@wikingyeah15:10
@wiking:))15:10
@wikingand that is inflated imo15:10
@wikingfor serbia15:10
@wikingthe avg should be around 200-25015:10
iglesiasniet goed15:10
@wikingbut i mean if you are lucky and work in CS15:10
@wikingand you do freelancing15:11
iglesias$$$$$15:11
@wikingwhich most of the ppl do there whom i know15:11
@wikingthen it's really nice15:11
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sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4366 opened by vinx1316:25
lisitsynwiking: how do I check this feature?16:30
@wikingwhichone?16:31
lisitsynhttps://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/434816:31
lisitsynah this thing16:31
@wikingfeature/transformers16:31
@wikinghas it all16:31
@wiking:)16:31
@wikingjust trying to get that crazy amount of swig warnings16:32
@wikingsilenced16:32
@wikingso that the CIs do not fail16:32
lisitsynauto auto(auto auto) { auto; }16:34
@wikingAUTO!16:35
@wikingwe need more AUTO16:35
@wiking:>16:35
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sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4366 synchronized by vinx1317:28
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] Pull Request https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/pull/4366 merged by karlnapf19:40
sukey1[https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun] New commit https://github.com/shogun-toolbox/shogun/commit/b1d366d7fc79ee7162c68ec0a4561c762c248902 by karlnapf19:40
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