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| HeikoS1 | gf712: btw I tried to outsource the refactoring the gradient and old modelselection parameter removal, I guess you saw the email | 17:30 |
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| HeikoS1 | let's hope this goes through, then we have a second person working on this | 17:30 |
| gf712 | Yes, I saw it! I have been trying it around a bit now, and it seems to be pretty straight forward | 17:31 |
| gf712 | There are only a few more usages in the code. We should remove the old ctor of AnyParemeterProperties btw. It seems to cause some odd things because of the default parameters | 17:32 |
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| lisitsyn | HeikoS: hey | 19:05 |
| rcurtin | I am here also :) | 19:05 |
| @HeikoS | hi | 19:05 |
| lisitsyn | the connection is getting better as folks are leaving the building :) | 19:05 |
| @HeikoS | how is the conference? | 19:05 |
| @HeikoS | we can move to hangout once it is good? | 19:05 |
| lisitsyn | yeah | 19:06 |
| rcurtin | agree. I don't expect the conference internet will ever be good but it is at least good enough for ssh/irc | 19:07 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 19:07 |
| @HeikoS | so | 19:07 |
| @HeikoS | first we should discuss the screen issue | 19:07 |
| rcurtin | right. honestly my take is that we should see how large/small the room is | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | yes good idea | 19:08 |
| lisitsyn | I suggest we go with 2 tvs for 2 demos in parallel | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | but if there are 200 people coming ... laptops wont do | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: you suggest to merge the demo slot with the tutorial right? | 19:08 |
| @HeikoS | and then only have two at once? | 19:08 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: yes | 19:09 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: what about you guys go buy some screens :D ? | 19:09 |
| lisitsyn | no, I think this company controls the whole thing | 19:09 |
| lisitsyn | we can't do that for sure | 19:09 |
| rcurtin | yeah, unfortunately I think lisitsyn is right :( | 19:09 |
| lisitsyn | it is pretty well organized and strict :) | 19:09 |
| @HeikoS | mmh | 19:09 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 19:09 |
| @HeikoS | although | 19:10 |
| @HeikoS | we could also use laptops | 19:10 |
| @HeikoS | so why cant i bring my screen? :D | 19:10 |
| rcurtin | heh | 19:10 |
| rcurtin | thinking of laptops, whose laptop will we use for, e.g., spotlights? | 19:10 |
| @HeikoS | sergeys :D | 19:10 |
| rcurtin | I only have a shitty chromebook so I don't think it will be very useful (also I don't have a usb-c->HDMI adapter or anything) | 19:11 |
| rcurtin | yeah I am looking at his computer now and it is way better than mine :) | 19:11 |
| lisitsyn | yeah we can use mine | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | hehe | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | cool | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | I shared the folder | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | with the pdfs | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | I will merge them all | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | or maybe not | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | but anyways | 19:11 |
| @HeikoS | what about those screens ? | 19:11 |
| rcurtin | well, we can take a look in the room, but I think we will at least require one for sure | 19:11 |
| rcurtin | and I suppose two if we do demo/tutorial in parallel? | 19:12 |
| lisitsyn | we have 4 demos | 19:12 |
| lisitsyn | and 2 hours | 19:12 |
| rcurtin | yeah, I suppose it would be best to do two in parallel. or, perhaps we should ask the demo presenters how long their demos are? | 19:13 |
| @HeikoS | we can write to them that they ahve more time and that we do 2 in parallel | 19:13 |
| @HeikoS | that is fine as well | 19:13 |
| @HeikoS | actually better | 19:13 |
| rcurtin | oh, did they think they had only 30 minutes each before? | 19:13 |
| @HeikoS | yes | 19:13 |
| @HeikoS | a screen is 600 | 19:14 |
| @HeikoS | so if we remove two, we are 1200 less | 19:14 |
| rcurtin | hm. well, I don't see an issue with doing only one demo at a time, but that's just my opinion. maybe you and lisitsyn prefer something else? | 19:14 |
| @HeikoS | ah more actually | 19:14 |
| lisitsyn | we can change to 30 minutes demo | 19:14 |
| rcurtin | if it is only one demo, then everyone is paying attention to it, whereas with two people's attention is split | 19:14 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: actually good point | 19:14 |
| @HeikoS | now that we have more time | 19:15 |
| @HeikoS | we can do it on the beamer we have | 19:15 |
| @HeikoS | that would be best in fact | 19:15 |
| @HeikoS | we give everyone 30 mins still | 19:15 |
| lisitsyn | yeah quite a lot | 19:15 |
| @HeikoS | long time for a demo | 19:15 |
| lisitsyn | lets just announce it shortly | 19:15 |
| @HeikoS | ok so screens are killed then | 19:15 |
| lisitsyn | yay | 19:15 |
| lisitsyn | 3900$ | 19:15 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 19:15 |
| rcurtin | ok, great | 19:15 |
| @HeikoS | I will write to all demo presenters and make up a little story around the screens and ms bailing, and tell them they can present in front of everyone | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | just not as interactive unfortunately | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | but ok | 19:16 |
| rcurtin | do we get one main screen already for free? | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | yes | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | it is free | 19:16 |
| rcurtin | perfect | 19:16 |
| lisitsyn | why don't you think it can be interactive? | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | well | 19:16 |
| lisitsyn | it can be interleaved with questions | 19:16 |
| @HeikoS | but that wont happen :D | 19:17 |
| lisitsyn | so it could be an interactive tutorial | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | you were at uni right? | 19:17 |
| lisitsyn | idk | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | lecture vs small group | 19:17 |
| lisitsyn | yes once | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | haha | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | well ok | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | we can encourage | 19:17 |
| rcurtin | lisitsyn: I see what you mean, it will be a little more like a lecture, but I think that is ok. actually the presenter may like it more because they don't have to repeat themselves as much :) | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | maybe you guys can try to ask some questions | 19:17 |
| lisitsyn | yeah fake questions | 19:17 |
| lisitsyn | just to encourage | 19:17 |
| lisitsyn | heh | 19:17 |
| @HeikoS | I always did that when organizing talks at UCL, ask lots of question during the talk, and then others kinda joined in | 19:17 |
| rcurtin | yeah I feel like it is our responsibility as organizers to always have random questions to ask :) | 19:18 |
| lisitsyn | ok next? :) | 19:18 |
| @HeikoS | ok then, I will send emails and cc you guys | 19:18 |
| lisitsyn | thanks | 19:18 |
| @HeikoS | ok schedule | 19:18 |
| @HeikoS | we need to update it | 19:18 |
| lisitsyn | nips.cc or website? | 19:18 |
| @HeikoS | both i guess | 19:18 |
| lisitsyn | righto | 19:18 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: could you do that? | 19:19 |
| @HeikoS | also add the abstracts? | 19:19 |
| lisitsyn | yes I will do | 19:19 |
| @HeikoS | the ones we have | 19:19 |
| lisitsyn | add wherer? | 19:19 |
| lisitsyn | website? | 19:19 |
| @HeikoS | some link | 19:20 |
| @HeikoS | yeah | 19:20 |
| lisitsyn | ok | 19:20 |
| lisitsyn | nips.cc is added | 19:20 |
| lisitsyn | I mean it has links and abstracts | 19:20 |
| @HeikoS | sweet | 19:20 |
| lisitsyn | website is a bit outdated that's true | 19:20 |
| lisitsyn | ok I will do that today | 19:20 |
| @HeikoS | I will email all the speakers and spotlighters/demo presenters to check in | 19:20 |
| @HeikoS | so that we know whether somebody is not there or something | 19:20 |
| @HeikoS | poster missing is not tha tbad | 19:21 |
| lisitsyn | yeah | 19:21 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 19:21 |
| @HeikoS | cool | 19:21 |
| lisitsyn | next? | 19:21 |
| @HeikoS | next thing would be organizing the day | 19:21 |
| lisitsyn | what does that mean? | 19:21 |
| rcurtin | hmm, meaning figuring out who runs what, etc.? | 19:21 |
| @HeikoS | you guys would need to be there a bit early to check the AV setup | 19:21 |
| lisitsyn | ah yeah | 19:21 |
| lisitsyn | no problem | 19:21 |
| @HeikoS | and the mics | 19:21 |
| lisitsyn | we woke up at six today | 19:21 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 19:21 |
| rcurtin | right, definitely. I plan to be there 30+ minutes before the whole thing starts | 19:21 |
| @HeikoS | wow | 19:21 |
| @HeikoS | cool | 19:22 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: so you mc right? :) | 19:22 |
| rcurtin | I can do that unless sergey wants to :) | 19:22 |
| @HeikoS | i would be surprised hehe | 19:22 |
| lisitsyn | I do timing and notebook thingy then | 19:22 |
| lisitsyn | that was mean! | 19:22 |
| rcurtin | what is the notebook thingy? | 19:22 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: it wasnt meant mean | 19:22 |
| lisitsyn | meant mean! | 19:22 |
| rcurtin | oh, you mean serving presentations on the laptop | 19:22 |
| rcurtin | that sounds fine to me | 19:22 |
| lisitsyn | next? :) | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: if people take too long, they need to be given some time left thing | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: we have some "intro notes" | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | wanna do them? | 19:23 |
| lisitsyn | yeah I will let them know like 1 minute left | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | or we can ask cheng | 19:23 |
| lisitsyn | I think it might make sense to have cheng | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | since he is involved so long | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | yeah ok | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | can you ask him? | 19:23 |
| rcurtin | HeikoS: I'll handle the intro slides, yeah | 19:23 |
| lisitsyn | let me ask him once we catch up again | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | kk | 19:23 |
| rcurtin | I need a good picture of you and other organizers though :) | 19:23 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: and then you introduce everyone and tell people what is next etc? | 19:23 |
| rcurtin | yeah, I am happy to do that | 19:24 |
| rcurtin | I'll also make sure I have at least one question for every talk | 19:24 |
| rcurtin | or, at least, across all of the organizers we should make sure at least one question is asked. I can probably generate many to most of them | 19:24 |
| @HeikoS | yeah good idea | 19:24 |
| lisitsyn | next | 19:25 |
| lisitsyn | :) | 19:25 |
| lisitsyn | I'd drop t-shirts | 19:25 |
| lisitsyn | I am not sure it is feasible now | 19:25 |
| rcurtin | (also since I am MC'ing I'll run the Q&As too and pass around the mic) | 19:25 |
| @HeikoS | yeah ok | 19:26 |
| rcurtin | agree on the t-shirts. only 5 days is a really short turnaround (although I guess we have the budget if we want to...!) | 19:26 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: yes | 19:26 |
| @HeikoS | ah | 19:26 |
| @HeikoS | we have some discussion bit | 19:26 |
| @HeikoS | that is still unclear | 19:26 |
| @HeikoS | you can invest the budget into a dinner :) | 19:26 |
| rcurtin | HeikoS: some discussion about the Q&A or the t-shirts? | 19:26 |
| @HeikoS | if you get people short notice | 19:26 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: no I mean the last bit of the ws | 19:27 |
| @HeikoS | panel | 19:27 |
| rcurtin | ahh, let's come back to the panel then. we can talk about the dinner first :) | 19:27 |
| lisitsyn | we need some questions to be asked | 19:27 |
| @HeikoS | Interactive session: sustainability guidelines for MLOSS | 19:27 |
| @HeikoS | Panel discussion: summary of guidelines | 19:27 |
| rcurtin | ah ok nevermind panel first :) | 19:27 |
| @HeikoS | there is the 45 min "discussion" that is supposed to be interactive | 19:27 |
| @HeikoS | and then there is the panel | 19:27 |
| @HeikoS | where we need to invite some people to discuss the results | 19:28 |
| rcurtin | I'd actually consider ordering it the other way around | 19:28 |
| @HeikoS | that was the initial idea | 19:28 |
| @HeikoS | so we need to invite people | 19:28 |
| rcurtin | if the panel discussion happens first, this gets people's thoughts going and opens them up for discussion | 19:28 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: why that? | 19:28 |
| rcurtin | but just starting a discussion out of nowhere is always hard | 19:28 |
| lisitsyn | I tend to agree | 19:28 |
| rcurtin | so if you have the panel first, everyone is going to have opinions on what the panel says | 19:28 |
| rcurtin | and then when you turn it to a wider discussion, people have things to say | 19:28 |
| lisitsyn | and lets reduce them to 30+30 | 19:28 |
| rcurtin | agreed on that---it might be a little hard to make sure that people keep talking through the panel session | 19:29 |
| @HeikoS | argh my mouse just froze | 19:29 |
| rcurtin | who wants to moderate the panel? maybe we could get Cheng or Antti to do it? | 19:29 |
| @HeikoS | just a sec | 19:29 |
| rcurtin | I can do it if needed but it is a lot of MCing and moderation and paying attention, I will be pretty exhausted by the afternoon :) | 19:29 |
| lisitsyn | antti can't do that | 19:29 |
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| lisitsyn | but cheng might | 19:29 |
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| rcurtin | right, probably worth asking to see if he is interested | 19:30 |
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| HeikoS | hello | 19:30 |
| HeikoS | sorry | 19:30 |
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| lisitsyn | heh | 19:30 |
| @HeikoS | ubuntu gave up | 19:30 |
| rcurtin | :) | 19:30 |
| @HeikoS | didnt read the last minute | 19:30 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: we'll ask cheng two things then | 19:31 |
| rcurtin | so the discussion was about the panel and who would moderate it---I was saying I would be a bit exhausted | 19:31 |
| lisitsyn | if he wants to have introduction | 19:31 |
| lisitsyn | and the panel | 19:31 |
| rcurtin | I can handle the introduction for sure unless Cheng wants to | 19:31 |
| lisitsyn | then only panel | 19:31 |
| @HeikoS | mmh | 19:31 |
| lisitsyn | :) | 19:31 |
| @HeikoS | I think Cheng should introduce (if he has time) | 19:31 |
| rcurtin | sure, we can ask him that also | 19:31 |
| @HeikoS | and then the panel, we just need a moderator (ryan), who reads questions, and then the panel discusses them | 19:32 |
| @HeikoS | we could drop the interactive session | 19:32 |
| lisitsyn | yaya lets drop | 19:32 |
| @HeikoS | but I think having an open discussion is nice | 19:32 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 19:32 |
| @HeikoS | it was really nice at nips12 | 19:32 |
| @HeikoS | or whatever it was | 19:32 |
| lisitsyn | lets finisher sooner | 19:32 |
| rcurtin | well, how about this... | 19:32 |
| lisitsyn | 17:00 | 19:32 |
| rcurtin | we make more panel questions than we expect to need | 19:32 |
| rcurtin | and after about 30 minutes, we start "opening" the panel and saying that those in the audience could answer also | 19:32 |
| rcurtin | if there is not much interest, we can conclude early perhaps | 19:33 |
| lisitsyn | sounds good to me, HeikoS? | 19:33 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: great idea | 19:33 |
| @HeikoS | starting the panel closed and then opening up to everyone | 19:33 |
| @HeikoS | ok then | 19:33 |
| rcurtin | maybe do this... | 19:33 |
| @HeikoS | and timing? | 19:33 |
| rcurtin | 3:30-4:30: second demo session | 19:33 |
| @HeikoS | 30 mins closed panel | 19:33 |
| rcurtin | 4:30-5:00: closed panel session | 19:33 |
| @HeikoS | and then 30 mins open | 19:33 |
| rcurtin | 5:00-5:25: open panel/discussion | 19:34 |
| rcurtin | 5:25-5:30: closing remarks | 19:34 |
| rcurtin | does that seem reasonable? | 19:34 |
| @HeikoS | I would give bit more time for open | 19:34 |
| @HeikoS | usually, there is lots of opinons | 19:34 |
| @HeikoS | mmh | 19:34 |
| @HeikoS | actually, we could even intermix things | 19:34 |
| @HeikoS | like | 19:34 |
| rcurtin | right, it depends on the number of people in the room I guess | 19:35 |
| @HeikoS | questions, panel answers, 1-2 room answers | 19:35 |
| rcurtin | ah | 19:35 |
| rcurtin | yeah | 19:35 |
| rcurtin | I think that is a winner | 19:35 |
| @HeikoS | sorry question, panel, room | 19:35 |
| @HeikoS | and then next question | 19:35 |
| rcurtin | it's resilient to there being not many opinions in the room too | 19:35 |
| @HeikoS | haha | 19:35 |
| rcurtin | we can just do that for the last hour I think | 19:35 |
| @HeikoS | yes | 19:35 |
| rcurtin | I'll start thinking of panel questions to ask | 19:35 |
| lisitsyn | yeah | 19:35 |
| @HeikoS | or maybe 45 | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | and then overrun | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | or something | 19:36 |
| rcurtin | yeah, that would be fine with me | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | I'd decide that spontaneously | 19:36 |
| rcurtin | once I come up with questions I'll email them all to the organizers so we can see what we think | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | if you ryan have the mic, you can cut at any point | 19:36 |
| lisitsyn | ok I'll adapt the schedule to this idea | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | cool | 19:36 |
| rcurtin | right | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | can you put them in a googledoc? | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | so everyone can edit? | 19:36 |
| rcurtin | yep | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | and who do we invite? | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | for the panel? | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | speakers? | 19:36 |
| @HeikoS | people from outside? | 19:36 |
| rcurtin | we don't have panel speakers already? | 19:37 |
| rcurtin | I thought we did | 19:37 |
| @HeikoS | nope | 19:37 |
| rcurtin | ahhh that could be... a problem | 19:37 |
| @HeikoS | I suggest we invite people soon 8-) | 19:37 |
| @HeikoS | so first call are speakers I would say | 19:37 |
| rcurtin | wait, Soeren is here. maybe he would do it :) | 19:37 |
| @HeikoS | yes | 19:37 |
| @HeikoS | top choice | 19:37 |
| @HeikoS | he is a bit shy though | 19:37 |
| lisitsyn | I have a dinner with him today to convince | 19:38 |
| @HeikoS | but maybe not anymore haha | 19:38 |
| @HeikoS | cool | 19:38 |
| @HeikoS | yeah do that | 19:38 |
| rcurtin | not sure if he will be here through Saturday though | 19:38 |
| @HeikoS | great call | 19:38 |
| rcurtin | might be able to poach some people from the MLsys workshop | 19:38 |
| @HeikoS | In the email I will send to all presenters to check in, I will ask for volunteers for panel | 19:38 |
| @HeikoS | and all the invited speakers Ill send a personal email | 19:38 |
| rcurtin | I could probably ask Mike Innes from Julia | 19:38 |
| rcurtin | he will be at the MLsys workshop | 19:38 |
| @HeikoS | and then you guys should just ask people who you meet | 19:39 |
| rcurtin | giving a keynote talk of some sort | 19:39 |
| @HeikoS | I can also send a few more emails | 19:39 |
| lisitsyn | yes we will randomly ask related people then | 19:39 |
| lisitsyn | at posters maybe | 19:39 |
| @HeikoS | sebastian nowozin, neil lawrence | 19:39 |
| @HeikoS | Ill think of more | 19:39 |
| lisitsyn | oh these are big shots | 19:39 |
| rcurtin | well, so a lot of this depends on the types of questions we want to ask | 19:39 |
| @HeikoS | the more senior the better | 19:39 |
| @HeikoS | but you have a good case since you are organizers | 19:40 |
| rcurtin | right | 19:40 |
| rcurtin | the overarching theme of the workshop is "sustainable communities" but the panel discussion says "summary of guidelines", what does that mean? | 19:40 |
| @HeikoS | I think we can guide the discussion with questions | 19:40 |
| @HeikoS | and the idea of that was that we document what the consensus is | 19:40 |
| @HeikoS | so if somebody is keen to write a blog post .... | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | ah | 19:41 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: we have to get some lunch soonish :) | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | I feel bad for not helping you here ... | 19:41 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: no worries | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | I thikn we covered all the points | 19:41 |
| lisitsyn | dinner | 19:41 |
| rcurtin | sure, but I mean, if we invite Neil Lawrence we should be sure to have questions that are relevant to him | 19:41 |
| rcurtin | right | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | so I will write email | 19:41 |
| rcurtin | let's take the panel discussion discussion offline and figure out more details in the next hours :) | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | let's catch up tomorrow to check everything is in order | 19:41 |
| lisitsyn | I update schedule | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | cool! | 19:41 |
| lisitsyn | during today | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | thanks! | 19:41 |
| @HeikoS | and enjoy! | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | and we ask random people | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | :) | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | to be in the panel | 19:42 |
| rcurtin | whoever sees Cheng first should ask about him doing the intro | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | but dinner? | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 19:42 |
| @HeikoS | ask the bouncers | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: dinner! | 19:42 |
| rcurtin | and if he is willing to be in the panel | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | do we do that? | 19:42 |
| lisitsyn | I am not very sure we can easily do that | 19:42 |
| rcurtin | when Gael did it it was straightforward: pick a place, make a reservation, send email to all presenters and ask for an RSVP | 19:43 |
| rcurtin | so I think we could do it, we just need to pick a place and send emails I guess | 19:43 |
| rcurtin | HeikoS: what do you think? I can try and find a few places on yelp to suggest | 19:44 |
| @HeikoS | rcurtin: I thnk that sounds great | 19:46 |
| rcurtin | https://www.yelp.com/biz/au-pied-de-cochon-montr%C3%A9al-2?osq=restaurants | 19:46 |
| rcurtin | that's one candidate | 19:46 |
| @HeikoS | there is great stuff in montreal | 19:46 |
| @HeikoS | I can ask our finance how to pay that straight from the account | 19:46 |
| rcurtin | I can also put it on a credit card and you can reimburse me later :) | 19:46 |
| rcurtin | so either thing can work | 19:46 |
| @HeikoS | ok cool that is even easier | 19:47 |
| rcurtin | I guess, if we will do that, I can call that place tonight and see if they can take a reservation, for, e.g. 20 | 19:47 |
| rcurtin | and if they say yes, I'll make the reservation | 19:48 |
| rcurtin | and send the email to everyone who is contributing to the workshop | 19:48 |
| rcurtin | I'll also make sure that if we wanted to increase the size of the reservation we could do so | 19:48 |
| lisitsyn | super | 19:48 |
| rcurtin | what is our budget for dinner? | 19:48 |
| lisitsyn | I guess up to thousand haha | 19:48 |
| rcurtin | like is it too crazy if we end up spending CAD$1000? | 19:48 |
| rcurtin | we can find a cheaper place too | 19:48 |
| rcurtin | McDonald's for instance | 19:49 |
| rcurtin | :) | 19:49 |
| @HeikoS | hahaha | 19:50 |
| @HeikoS | yeah | 19:50 |
| @HeikoS | mcd go for it :D | 19:50 |
| @HeikoS | we have quite some spare money | 19:50 |
| @HeikoS | so maybe 50 pP? | 19:51 |
| @HeikoS | but I have no feeling for montreal | 19:51 |
| rcurtin | right, we can aim for something like that | 19:51 |
| lisitsyn | yeah it would be a pretty good place | 19:51 |
| lisitsyn | with 50 pP | 19:51 |
| @HeikoS | I mean just be reasonable | 19:51 |
| @HeikoS | but not stingy | 19:51 |
| rcurtin | right | 19:51 |
| rcurtin | I would aim for about what Gael chose last time | 19:51 |
| lisitsyn | yeah some michelin star restaurant | 19:51 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 19:51 |
| @HeikoS | yeah in those lines | 19:51 |
| rcurtin | actually maybe Gael is here? I should email and ask. he would be good on the panel | 19:52 |
| @HeikoS | hehe | 19:52 |
| @HeikoS | definitely | 19:52 |
| lisitsyn | ok we should go for lunch! | 19:52 |
| @HeikoS | I gotta run now to eat dinner as well | 19:52 |
| lisitsyn | enjoy! | 19:52 |
| rcurtin | sounds good | 19:52 |
| @HeikoS | see you later, you too! | 19:52 |
| rcurtin | I'll send follow-up emails later tonight | 19:52 |
| @HeikoS | same here | 19:52 |
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| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: rcurtin i realised there is a problem | 22:21 |
| @HeikoS | with the demo idea we had | 22:22 |
| @HeikoS | we told people that they should go through their material 2-3 times within 30 mins | 22:22 |
| @HeikoS | so most will have a 15 min thing prepared. We actually also had some questions on exactly that | 22:22 |
| @HeikoS | I am now thinking we could try to get a few tables in there and still do in on laptops, but longer | 22:23 |
| @HeikoS | so that the groups are smaller but everything goes on for longer | 22:23 |
| @HeikoS | what do you thin? | 22:23 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: the website schedule is f***ed ;) | 22:43 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: hey | 23:01 |
| lisitsyn | still there? | 23:01 |
| lisitsyn | there is a huge problem yes | 23:02 |
| @HeikoS | hi | 23:02 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: we don't have time slot for 4 demos 30 mins each | 23:02 |
| @HeikoS | the demo schedule thing ... | 23:02 |
| @HeikoS | even with azure cancelled? | 23:02 |
| lisitsyn | yes | 23:03 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: also see my msg above | 23:03 |
| @HeikoS | people didnt prepare 30 min material | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: ok then good | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: it is even better | 23:03 |
| @HeikoS | they prepared 2-3 times 15 mins | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | because we have no time anyway | 23:03 |
| @HeikoS | so either we let them do one iteration on screen | 23:03 |
| @HeikoS | or we do it on laptops | 23:03 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: we have two talks, right? | 23:04 |
| @HeikoS | yes | 23:04 |
| lisitsyn | one at 11:00 and one at 11:20 | 23:04 |
| lisitsyn | then at 11:40 we have nothing | 23:04 |
| @HeikoS | btw the schedule on our site is still wrong somehow | 23:04 |
| lisitsyn | yes let me make it correct on nips.cc | 23:04 |
| lisitsyn | then I'll update | 23:04 |
| lisitsyn | but lets resolve the main issue | 23:04 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:05 |
| @HeikoS | so how much time do we have? | 23:05 |
| @HeikoS | can we do 20 mins? | 23:05 |
| @HeikoS | let me chekc my email | 23:05 |
| lisitsyn | we have 11:40 - 12:00 unused | 23:05 |
| @HeikoS | with instructions for demo | 23:05 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: really? | 23:05 |
| lisitsyn | and we have 03:30 - 04:30 | 23:05 |
| @HeikoS | wasnt there some overlap? | 23:05 |
| lisitsyn | PM | 23:05 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: no if we have two talks | 23:05 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: I suggest to start poster at 11:40 | 23:06 |
| lisitsyn | what do you think? | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | We plan to provide: a table, power sockets, and a medium to large | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | screen for you to present your project to about a dozen of people at | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | once. We see the demos as an interactive poster session where you walk | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | different groups of listeners through your material 2-3 times within | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | the slot. We encourage you to rehearse the demo, in order to get the | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | most out of the time. | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | I am a bit lost with the schedule | 23:06 |
| @HeikoS | but whatever you say :) | 23:07 |
| @HeikoS | A handful of demos will be presented in parallel within a | 23:07 |
| @HeikoS | 30-40 min slot. | 23:07 |
| @HeikoS | ^ so that were the instructions | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: the problem is that now we have a poster session in parallel with talks | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | which is nuts | 23:07 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: no we dont want that | 23:07 |
| @HeikoS | that was the mistake on the website | 23:07 |
| @HeikoS | we didnt plan that | 23:07 |
| @HeikoS | it is some transription error | 23:07 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: ok suggestion | 23:08 |
| lisitsyn | 11:40 we start posters | 23:08 |
| lisitsyn | the continue till 15:00 | 23:08 |
| lisitsyn | 14:00 - 15:00 - demos | 23:08 |
| lisitsyn | and we move hensman and averick to 15:30 and 16:00 (before the panel) | 23:08 |
| @HeikoS | wait | 23:09 |
| @HeikoS | didnt we have something that worked? :D | 23:09 |
| lisitsyn | no | 23:09 |
| @HeikoS | mmh | 23:09 |
| lisitsyn | I don't see any other variant | 23:09 |
| @HeikoS | wasnt it just broken on the schedule we have on the site? | 23:09 |
| @HeikoS | moving things around is tricky | 23:09 |
| lisitsyn | no the schedule itself is broken | 23:09 |
| @HeikoS | people might be late, etc | 23:09 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:09 |
| lisitsyn | ok no problem | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | we can leave hensman and averick | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | at the same time | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | but | 23:10 |
| @HeikoS | thats good | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | posters start 11:40 till 16:30 | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | OR | 23:10 |
| @HeikoS | on the website we have posters at 10 | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | makes no sense | 23:10 |
| lisitsyn | because we have talks | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | why not | 23:11 |
| lisitsyn | at that time | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | that was spotlights | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | ? | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | something is wrong then | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | the thing on the our own website makes sense | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | 9 talk | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | 930 talk | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | 10 spotlights | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | 1025 coffee | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | 11 talks | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | 12 lunch | 23:11 |
| lisitsyn | yeah but posters? | 23:11 |
| lisitsyn | the poster session can't overlap with talks | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | they happen during discussion | 23:11 |
| @HeikoS | 1025-11 | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | and during the spotlights? | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | thirty minutes? | 23:12 |
| @HeikoS | well it is like | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | ok lets have TWO poster sessions | 23:12 |
| @HeikoS | spotlights -- then poster | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | 10:25 - 11:00 | 23:12 |
| @HeikoS | and let poeple talk | 23:12 |
| @HeikoS | and then coffee | 23:12 |
| @HeikoS | I think that would work no? | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | and 15:30 - 16:30 | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | yeah but it is short | 23:12 |
| lisitsyn | and for coffee you have to go somewhere else | 23:13 |
| @HeikoS | maybe at the end? | 23:13 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: what do you think if we have two? | 23:13 |
| @HeikoS | also good | 23:13 |
| lisitsyn | 10:25 - 11:00 and 15:30 - 16:30 | 23:13 |
| lisitsyn | 23:13 | |
| lisitsyn | 15:30 - 16:30 is parallel with demos | 23:13 |
| @HeikoS | 330-415 talks and demos | 23:13 |
| @HeikoS | no but we cannot do paralle | 23:14 |
| lisitsyn | then not | 23:14 |
| @HeikoS | demos are their onw thing now | 23:14 |
| @HeikoS | but | 23:14 |
| @HeikoS | we could make some more room between slots | 23:14 |
| @HeikoS | or we make a poster/discussion at the end | 23:14 |
| @HeikoS | like | 23:14 |
| @HeikoS | 530-6 posters/networking | 23:14 |
| lisitsyn | no | 23:14 |
| lisitsyn | at 5:30 the room will be empty | 23:14 |
| lisitsyn | it is saturday dancing lala | 23:15 |
| @HeikoS | workshop posters are often at the end | 23:15 |
| @HeikoS | but ok | 23:15 |
| lisitsyn | 11:40 - 12:00 is still vacant | 23:16 |
| lisitsyn | what do we do? | 23:16 |
| @HeikoS | what is the schedule 11-12? | 23:16 |
| @HeikoS | I am looking at website atm | 23:16 |
| lisitsyn | 11:00 talk | 23:16 |
| lisitsyn | 11:20 talk | 23:16 |
| lisitsyn | (contributed) | 23:16 |
| @HeikoS | and 1140-12 nothing? | 23:16 |
| lisitsyn | yes | 23:17 |
| @HeikoS | ah | 23:17 |
| @HeikoS | why dont we then | 23:17 |
| @HeikoS | move the contributed talks back by 20 | 23:17 |
| @HeikoS | and make the poster session from end of spotlights until first contributed talk? | 23:17 |
| @HeikoS | with coffee in between (if people want to) | 23:17 |
| lisitsyn | back or forward? | 23:17 |
| @HeikoS | sorry | 23:17 |
| @HeikoS | start at 1120 | 23:17 |
| lisitsyn | this sounds good to me | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | lets do that | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | can you make a note or something so we dont forget :D | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | and then | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | I will update everywhere | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | what happens at 330? | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | demos | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | 1 hr | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | 330-430? | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | yes | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | 15 mins each? | 23:18 |
| lisitsyn | we can shrink the panel | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | and we do them on the main projector | 23:18 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:19 |
| lisitsyn | so it is 20 minutes each | 23:19 |
| lisitsyn | yeah on the projector | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | ok great | 23:19 |
| lisitsyn | plan? | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | but wait | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | we have | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | 5 demos | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | no? | 23:19 |
| lisitsyn | 4 | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | yousure? | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | ah yes | 23:19 |
| lisitsyn | flow, mxfusion, binder, deeppavlov | 23:19 |
| lisitsyn | that's it | 23:19 |
| @HeikoS | 330-430 is 15 each | 23:19 |
| lisitsyn | yes lets do 3:30 - 4:50 | 23:20 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:20 |
| lisitsyn | and then 4:50 - 5:30 panel | 23:20 |
| lisitsyn | good to go? | 23:20 |
| @HeikoS | then I will tell people to have 15 min demo and 5 min questions | 23:20 |
| @HeikoS | yes | 23:20 |
| lisitsyn | phew | 23:20 |
| @HeikoS | pls could you edit both schedules asap? | 23:20 |
| lisitsyn | case resolved | 23:20 |
| lisitsyn | I will do now | 23:20 |
| @HeikoS | because I already sent out some email asking people to participate in panels | 23:21 |
| lisitsyn | give me like 10 mins | 23:21 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:21 |
| @HeikoS | can you also make a list of things that moved? | 23:21 |
| @HeikoS | so we can notify them? | 23:21 |
| lisitsyn | andrews fonnensbeck | 23:21 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: also see the googledoc I shared with email to check in | 23:21 |
| lisitsyn | fonnesbeck* | 23:21 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: both talks | 23:21 |
| @HeikoS | I will put new instructions in there and tell people to double check schedule | 23:21 |
| lisitsyn | are 20 mins forward | 23:21 |
| lisitsyn | ah and all demos | 23:22 |
| lisitsyn | fuck | 23:22 |
| lisitsyn | :D | 23:22 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:22 |
| lisitsyn | well whatever | 23:23 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: can you pick an order | 23:23 |
| lisitsyn | that's the best option we had | 23:23 |
| @HeikoS | and make it definite? | 23:23 |
| lisitsyn | yes will do | 23:23 |
| @HeikoS | I will wait with my email then | 23:23 |
| lisitsyn | 5 mins | 23:23 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: can you add something that we can reorder if they want | 23:25 |
| @HeikoS | ok will do | 23:25 |
| lisitsyn | ah and also | 23:25 |
| lisitsyn | binder has no assigned presenter | 23:25 |
| lisitsyn | so we have to make sure they are going to make it | 23:25 |
| @HeikoS | i know | 23:27 |
| @HeikoS | I used fernanos email | 23:27 |
| @HeikoS | ok I am done with email drafting | 23:28 |
| @HeikoS | they are in the doc | 23:28 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: 2 mins | 23:28 |
| @HeikoS | will send them tomorrow morning | 23:28 |
| @HeikoS | so you have some time | 23:28 |
| @HeikoS | and ryan and you can read the thing before I send it | 23:29 |
| @HeikoS | less typos, less desaster ;D | 23:29 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: ok nips.cc is mostly updated | 23:29 |
| @HeikoS | kool! | 23:31 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: Ill leave you to it and then get back to stuff tomorrow | 23:31 |
| @HeikoS | email me if anything comes up | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: ok | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: once I am done with nips.c | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | I will update our website | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | and that's it | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | but expect it to be done | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | if not I'll let you know | 23:31 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: fixed | 23:36 |
| lisitsyn | ! | 23:36 |
| @HeikoS | lisitsyn: oh one q | 23:42 |
| @HeikoS | shall we grant hernan 1.5k? | 23:42 |
| @HeikoS | ah wait | 23:42 |
| @HeikoS | actually | 23:42 |
| @HeikoS | he got he free registration | 23:43 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: he doesn't need that much | 23:43 |
| @HeikoS | nevermind | 23:43 |
| lisitsyn | HeikoS: cheng agreed to open and introduce us | 23:43 |
| @HeikoS | great! | 23:43 |
| lisitsyn | and then Ryan catches | 23:43 |
| @HeikoS | ok | 23:45 |
| @HeikoS | I initiated the reimbursements with Lynn | 23:45 |
| @HeikoS | thats it for me tonight | 23:46 |
| @HeikoS | more tomorrow | 23:46 |
| @HeikoS | see you | 23:46 |
| lisitsyn | see you | 23:46 |
| lisitsyn | good night | 23:46 |
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| rcurtin | ok, catching up now, sorry I was not available | 23:56 |
| rcurtin | everything looks good to me :) | 23:59 |
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