| --- Log opened Mon Apr 25 00:00:37 2011 | ||
| blackburn | sonney2k: I just added it to --cxx parameter of shogun when configuring | 00:01 |
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| blackburn | they propose to make some ln-s, some cp-s, don't like it :) | 00:02 |
| @bettyboo | :*) | 00:02 |
| blackburn | bettyboo: we love you too | 00:02 |
| @bettyboo | blackburn: do we need DET? | 00:02 |
| blackburn | :D | 00:02 |
| blackburn | haha | 00:02 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r5a5e2d7 / src/libshogun/evaluation/ROCEvaluation.h : fix typo in documentation - http://bit.ly/dTodQL | 00:05 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r37a2bf8 / src/libshogun/classifier/svm/DomainAdaptationSVM.h : fix ifdefs - causing compilation failure - http://bit.ly/gdLWpL | 00:05 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r950ca60 / src/libshogun/classifier/svm/DomainAdaptationSVMLinear.cpp : fix access of protected member variable - http://bit.ly/hHmcv5 | 00:05 |
| blackburn | rghh, what's up with Chris? | 00:06 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: when atlas is enabled I have to made additional include to /usr/include/atlas | 00:09 |
| blackburn | may be it could check what issue | 00:09 |
| blackburn | atlas installs to that dir in ubuntu, when using synaptics | 00:10 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I think that is a bug on the ubuntu side | 00:12 |
| blackburn | hm.. ok :) | 00:12 |
| @sonney2k | I mean atlas should provide the same includes libs... as it does in debian. | 00:13 |
| blackburn | --cxx=ccache g++ isn't working ;( | 00:13 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: is there any way to do it? | 00:14 |
| blackburn | because it seems it uses only g++ | 00:14 |
| @sonney2k | no idea what I did back then when I enabled it - but it works | 00:17 |
| blackburn | anyway, I did ln -s ccache /usr/local/bin/g++ | 00:17 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes I put /usr/lib/ccache in my $PATH | 00:17 |
| blackburn | will work now for sure | 00:17 |
| @sonney2k | and that helped | 00:18 |
| blackburn | ah, thank you | 00:18 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r73a3e28 / (6 files in 4 dirs): Merge git://github.com/Siddharthk/shogun - http://bit.ly/hT90XH | 00:38 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r2bf3c8f / (4 files): Merge git://github.com/mcopik/shogun - http://bit.ly/fUNsZu | 00:40 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: head check in mathematics.h :D | 00:41 |
| blackburn | Written (W) 2011 Siddharth Kherada78 * Written (W) 2011 Justin Patera89 * Written (W) 2011 Alesis Novik910 * Written (W) 1999-2009 Soeren Sonnenburg | 00:41 |
| @bettyboo | HA | 00:41 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I guess I should have 2011 there too | 00:42 |
| @sonney2k | ohh well | 00:42 |
| blackburn | I mean every student will be here at time :) | 00:43 |
| @bettyboo | rahaha | 00:43 |
| blackburn | 3 o'clock in moscow and i'm going to sleep some :) | 01:02 |
| @bettyboo | weird <:*) | 01:02 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: you better go too ;) good night | 01:02 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yeah I will | 01:02 |
| @sonney2k | just reviewing one more patch | 01:02 |
| @sonney2k | l8r | 01:02 |
| blackburn | see you | 01:03 |
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| Ziyuan | So the chosen ones will be announced today? | 09:20 |
| Ziyuan | Ok, 11 hrs to go | 09:22 |
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| blackburn | 10 hours left guys! :D | 10:35 |
| sploving | yeap:) good luck to students | 10:44 |
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| sploving | 8.5hours left:) | 12:31 |
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| blackburn | 483 minutes left :) | 12:56 |
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| serialhex | blackburn, counting down the minutes?? :P | 15:11 |
| blackburn | yeah :D | 15:11 |
| serialhex | 348!! | 15:11 |
| serialhex | so how are you? | 15:11 |
| blackburn | fine, what about you? | 15:12 |
| serialhex | pretty good, waiting for the announcement & trying to wake up | 15:13 |
| blackburn | will go to bus station in 10 minutes :) | 15:13 |
| blackburn | then will go to samara by bus | 15:13 |
| serialhex | whats in samara?? | 15:13 |
| serialhex | class? | 15:14 |
| blackburn | oh it is 100 km far from here, I study there | 15:14 |
| blackburn | it is city :) | 15:14 |
| serialhex | ahh, cool cool | 15:14 |
| blackburn | I'm in toliatty at weekends and in samara during week | 15:15 |
| serialhex | ahh, i see! | 15:15 |
| serialhex | well have fun on your bus ride & i'll probably talk to you before the announcement is made, but good luck anyway! | 15:16 |
| blackburn | yeah you will | 15:16 |
| blackburn | I will be back in 3-3.5 hours | 15:16 |
| blackburn | see you | 15:16 |
| serialhex | later | 15:16 |
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| serialhex | 3 hours, 4 minutes, 40 seconds!!! | 17:55 |
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| alesis-novik | Good day | 18:03 |
| alesis-novik | Any tips to overcome exam anxiety? | 18:04 |
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| serialhex | alesis-novik, relax, have some coffee (or tea) and think about being in hawaii with beautiful women in grass skirts | 18:40 |
| serialhex | oh, and check out this cool thing i just found: https://github.com/nvie/gitflow | 18:41 |
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| blackburn | 98! | 19:22 |
| serialhex | indeed!!! blackburn indeed!!!!! | 19:22 |
| serialhex | so how was your bus ride?? | 19:23 |
| blackburn | it's ok :) | 19:24 |
| serialhex | sounds good! | 19:27 |
| * serialhex gets more tea | 19:27 | |
| blackburn | hm. want some tea too | 19:32 |
| alesis-novik | Hey blackburn | 19:35 |
| blackburn | hey alesis-novik | 19:36 |
| @bettyboo | blackburn, welcome | 19:36 |
| alesis-novik | blackburn, I'm gathering tips on how to get rid of exam anxiety :D | 19:36 |
| blackburn | will have exams soon? | 19:37 |
| alesis-novik | starting tomorrow | 19:37 |
| blackburn | we there have in may-june :) | 19:38 |
| blackburn | oh I don't know | 19:38 |
| blackburn | just do not read anything with rush before exam :) | 19:39 |
| alesis-novik | No matter how many exams I take, I still have anxiety. I guess it's a natural reaction :) | 19:39 |
| blackburn | it's better than not have | 19:39 |
| serialhex | alesis-novik, you didnt get my tip?? | 19:39 |
| blackburn | cause if you will calm you will be not so ready for it | 19:40 |
| alesis-novik | serialhex, It's a good tip ;) | 19:40 |
| serialhex | i dont know about that blackburn, i'm alway calm before exams! | 19:40 |
| blackburn | serialhex: how calm? with no worries at all? :) | 19:41 |
| @bettyboo | :Q | 19:41 |
| serialhex | generally yeah... i also dont study most of the time but seem to get good grades, go figure :P | 19:41 |
| @bettyboo | great | 19:41 |
| serialhex | i'm not a pre-test-cram-until-2am type of person, i either know it or i dont, and if i dont then.... i should have studied more :D | 19:42 |
| alesis-novik | I generally agree with you, serialhex. It's still good to revise the main equations though | 19:43 |
| blackburn | anyway I think being a little nervous could be better :) | 19:43 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: what exams you will have? | 19:43 |
| serialhex | true alesis-novik, if it's a subject i'm not comfortable with then i'll study a bit, but usually i dont have many problems | 19:44 |
| serialhex | (otoh, my grades currently _suck_ because i dont do much in the way of homework... i need to change that) | 19:44 |
| serialhex | 74 min!!! | 19:45 |
| alesis-novik | Reinforcement Learning, Information Theory, Text Technologies, Probabilistic Modelling and Reasoning, Multi-Agent Semantic Web Systems, Machine Learning and Pattern Recognition, Data Mining and Exploration, Neural Information Processing | 19:45 |
| alesis-novik | serialhex, 74 min? | 19:46 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: ohuet. why so many? | 19:46 |
| serialhex | alesis-novik: that i would have to study for :D | 19:46 |
| serialhex | 73 min until the gsoc students are announced!!! | 19:47 |
| alesis-novik | blackburn, because it's for the both semesters (a silly way of doing exams I think) | 19:47 |
| serialhex | yeah, i agree alesis-novik, it is silly!! | 19:48 |
| alesis-novik | I'd rather have exams after each semester, but this is how they do exams in Edinburgh Uni | 19:48 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: ah, I see. but you are the happy one :) I don't study it in my university, doing it only by myself | 19:49 |
| alesis-novik | I'm also happy that I will stay here 3 more years (at least) | 19:50 |
| blackburn | what you will do after? | 19:50 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: btw, do you pay for your study? if it's not a secret | 19:51 |
| alesis-novik | I paid for this year because it's very difficult to get a funded Masters degree, but I have secured funding for my PhD | 19:52 |
| blackburn | cause the only good thing about education here in russia - we can study freely | 19:52 |
| blackburn | are you phd student? | 19:53 |
| alesis-novik | Masters now | 19:53 |
| blackburn | seems I'm the youngest one here :D | 19:54 |
| @bettyboo | haha | 19:54 |
| wolodia | how old are you, blackburn? | 19:54 |
| blackburn | 20 | 19:54 |
| wolodia | I'm 19 ;P | 19:55 |
| blackburn | oh :) | 19:55 |
| blackburn | why you have such nick? :) | 19:55 |
| serialhex | i think there is one student older than i, but i'm pretty sure i'm the lowest one on the education totem pole | 19:56 |
| wolodia | because when I was searching for another, second nick, I was listening many songs from Vysotsky and he's often called "wolodia" in PL | 19:57 |
| blackburn | hehe, nice | 19:58 |
| blackburn | I really wonder you like vysotsky | 19:58 |
| wolodia | why? | 19:59 |
| blackburn | I don't know, without offence - looks like polands do not like russians :) | 20:00 |
| @bettyboo | weird | 20:00 |
| blackburn | serialhex: another one awkward situation with you don't know what we talking about, yeah? :) | 20:00 |
| blackburn | I think alesis-novik is know vysotsky too | 20:00 |
| serialhex | yeah, i'm kind of lost, but it's ok blackburn | 20:00 |
| wolodia | yeah, the situation between our countries is weird | 20:00 |
| blackburn | serialhex: it a soviet singer | 20:01 |
| blackburn | it is* :) | 20:01 |
| wolodia | but I think that people in Poland don't like russian goverment | 20:01 |
| serialhex | one of my friends while i was in high school (what you might call grade school) is polish in fact | 20:01 |
| alesis-novik | blackburn, everyone knows Vysotsky :D | 20:01 |
| serialhex | i kinda figured that wolodia was some sort of musician from the context | 20:01 |
| * serialhex isnt everyone :P | 20:02 | |
| wolodia | but there's no russophobia in Poland ;d | 20:02 |
| blackburn | wolodia: we here don't like our government too :D | 20:02 |
| blackburn | especially another one wolodia | 20:02 |
| alesis-novik | in context of former Soviet Union/Russian speaking countries :) | 20:02 |
| @bettyboo | alesis-novik, cool | 20:02 |
| serialhex | she keeps getting smarter and smarter... | 20:03 |
| serialhex | yeah, i'm just messing with you alesis-novik | 20:03 |
| alesis-novik | blackburn, only the current wolodia is bad-ass | 20:03 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: :D nobody likes wolodia | 20:04 |
| blackburn | but dima isn't better anyway | 20:04 |
| wolodia | yeah, voting in Poland is like "lesser evil" | 20:04 |
| blackburn | I suppose you will guess what dima I'm talking about :) | 20:04 |
| wolodia | yeah, I know | 20:05 |
| alesis-novik | he has a 6th dan in Judo :D | 20:05 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: oh well and he has a 60th dan in country breaking | 20:05 |
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| wolodia | how it is in Russia nowadays? miedwiediew is going to become more indepent from wolodia or it is just political game for people? | 20:06 |
| wolodia | because it looks weird from Poland | 20:06 |
| blackburn | wolodia: I don't know, it seems to be a game, medvedev isn't so powerful anyway | 20:07 |
| blackburn | have to go now, will be here in 40 minutes | 20:08 |
| wolodia | I'm leaving anyway | 20:08 |
| wolodia | congratulations for winners | 20:08 |
| wolodia | bye! | 20:08 |
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| blackburn | alesis-novik: serialhex 16 minutes! :) | 20:43 |
| serialhex | WHOOOO!!!!!! | 20:43 |
| alesis-novik | This is intense :D | 20:44 |
| @bettyboo | hoho | 20:45 |
| blackburn | omg, 600s :D | 20:49 |
| serialhex | lol | 20:50 |
| blackburn | it will be funny if we will DDoS it :D | 20:52 |
| serialhex | heh, yeah right! | 20:52 |
| alesis-novik | People have started getting e-mails apparently | 20:53 |
| blackburn | hmm | 20:54 |
| serialhex | really?? | 20:54 |
| blackburn | what kind of emails? | 20:54 |
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| blackburn | did any of you received? :) | 20:55 |
| josip | anyone got results yet? :) | 20:55 |
| serialhex | not i | 20:55 |
| josip | last year I had one accepted and one rejected proposal | 20:55 |
| josip | I got the acceptance first, then the reject .. | 20:55 |
| josip | the acceptance was ~5-10 mins before the actual annonced time | 20:55 |
| blackburn | 200s :) | 20:56 |
| josip | 200s ? | 20:56 |
| blackburn | to announce | 20:57 |
| josip | 200 seconds? | 20:57 |
| serialhex | blackburn is watching the clock... his eyes are glued on it :P | 20:57 |
| blackburn | yeaahh | 20:57 |
| josip | I bet you'll get it :D | 20:57 |
| blackburn | :) | 20:57 |
| @bettyboo | yep | 20:57 |
| serialhex | i'm sure he is too | 20:58 |
| serialhex | and even bettyboo agrees! :P | 20:58 |
| @bettyboo | serialhex: <bettyboo> :> | 20:58 |
| @bettyboo | lol!?! | 20:58 |
| blackburn | I don't have any emails yet, do you have any? | 20:58 |
| josip | no, calm down :) | 20:58 |
| josip | acceptances go first, so check your e-mails hehe | 20:59 |
| josip | there's no withdraw anymore | 21:00 |
| josip | http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2011 | 21:00 |
| josip | the list is out | 21:00 |
| josip | alesis novik, dvevre | 21:00 |
| blackburn | I got it :D | 21:00 |
| josip | heiko | 21:00 |
| josip | congrats! | 21:00 |
| josip | :) | 21:00 |
| josip | I don't think I'm getting in, so good luck everyone hehe | 21:01 |
| josip | yep | 21:01 |
| josip | 5 in total | 21:01 |
| josip | congrats ! | 21:01 |
| blackburn | heiko, alesis, dvevre, I, who else? | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | sploving | 21:02 |
| blackburn | sploving? hm.. :) | 21:02 |
| @bettyboo | hihi | 21:02 |
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| serialhex | sweet! congrats everyone who got it!!! | 21:02 |
| blackburn | serialhex: :( you didn't get it.. | 21:02 |
| serialhex | no, maybe next year :) | 21:03 |
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| josip | their app is crashing, lol | 21:04 |
| alesis-novik | Just like every year | 21:04 |
| blackburn | congrats to everyone! | 21:05 |
| serialhex | yeah, DDoS :P | 21:05 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: thank you :) | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | josip, your proposal was *really strong* but we could only have 5 students so we had to weight the importance of projects... | 21:05 |
| josip | dvevre: congrats, looks like a very good topic | 21:05 |
| josip | sonney2k: well, I took part last year :) | 21:05 |
| josip | thanks | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | we chose them to be as diverse as possible, namely cross-validation, support for more languages, dimension reduction, large scale learning (online features...), GMM | 21:06 |
| @sonney2k | josip, I know... | 21:06 |
| dvevre | josip: thanks! | 21:07 |
| @sonney2k | there might be ways we could fund additional students ourselves - but not idea if anyone is interested in this (outside of gsoc - of course) | 21:07 |
| alesis-novik | Right, got a boost, back to studying for my RL exam tomorrow | 21:08 |
| serialhex | sonney2k: i wouldnt mind doing such... | 21:08 |
| serialhex | so splovig is implementing a bunch of languages? i cant seem to view his project (it takes me to someone elses project) | 21:09 |
| blackburn | ahahah link to my abstact is broken | 21:11 |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, java, lua, ruby is the plan | 21:11 |
| @sonney2k | though nothing is set in stone of course | 21:12 |
| serialhex | ahh... he got me by 2 langs ;( i weep for my n00b-ness :P | 21:12 |
| alesis-novik | <SRabbelier> the click-through link for the list all project page is broken, fixing | 21:12 |
| blackburn | aha | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | regarding selection criteria - of course activity before gsoc counts a lot. Sergey aka blackburn already has 82 patches in shogun - so no wonder he was a safe bet. | 21:13 |
| blackburn | :D | 21:13 |
| alesis-novik | I would have been very surprised if he didn't get it | 21:14 |
| serialhex | very true, i was sure he was going to get it! | 21:15 |
| Tanmoy | congrats to the guys who got it | 21:15 |
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| josip | how many apps were there in total? | 21:15 |
| blackburn | 5 | 21:15 |
| blackburn | фр | 21:15 |
| blackburn | ah | 21:15 |
| blackburn | were | 21:15 |
| blackburn | 70 | 21:15 |
| skydiver | my congrats to all accepted students :) | 21:16 |
| josip | 70 for shogun? | 21:16 |
| josip | no way | 21:16 |
| serialhex | yeah, sonney2k said so in the beginning sometime... | 21:16 |
| serialhex | i think like 60 people applied for it | 21:17 |
| Tanmoy | thr was a mail sent | 21:17 |
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| @sonney2k | josip, yes 70 apps | 21:17 |
| @sonney2k | about 60 students | 21:18 |
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| josip | wow | 21:18 |
| blackburn | apache received 41 slots :D | 21:18 |
| @sonney2k | josip, and since we are a new org (first time in gsoc) we simply couldn't get >5 slots | 21:18 |
| alesis-novik | I'm guessing that's why shogun got 5 slots, which is a lot | 21:18 |
| @sonney2k | 1-2 for new orgs is the rule | 21:19 |
| alesis-novik | blackburn, apache is an umbrella org | 21:19 |
| @sonney2k | apache has >100 projects IIRC | 21:19 |
| blackburn | :) | 21:19 |
| alesis-novik | All umbrella orgs get more slots | 21:19 |
| @sonney2k | opencv got 12 slots... | 21:22 |
| @sonney2k | orange 3 ... | 21:23 |
| @sonney2k | (and these are highly related projects - with opencv participating for the 2nd time) | 21:23 |
| josip | I only applied to Shogun, didn't have enough time :( | 21:23 |
| josip | bad timing :/ | 21:23 |
| Tanmoy | thr r some related projects to R seems interesting | 21:23 |
| Tanmoy | thrs some stuff on EM which got accepted | 21:24 |
| Tanmoy | maybe alesis-novik cld have a look | 21:24 |
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| sploving | any news | 21:24 |
| blackburn | sploving: you got it ;) | 21:24 |
| @sonney2k | josip, well a safe bet is usually to contribute to the project before gsoc / the more the better. | 21:25 |
| sploving | i could not see where it is | 21:25 |
| josip | I know, I do so last year - but couldn't this year :) | 21:25 |
| josip | well, I'm not applying anymore anyway so .. :) | 21:25 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2011 and then put shogun in the org field | 21:25 |
| lionelc_ | sonney2k: it turned out that I am accepted by R. I am glad to see you find another good person for serialization support/cross-val framework | 21:26 |
| lionelc_ | sonney2k: hope that my patch is somewhat of use to Shogun | 21:26 |
| @sonney2k | josip, as I said we might be able to fund additional contributors... not sure if this is of interest for you | 21:26 |
| @sonney2k | lionelc_, yes it gives some inspiration! | 21:27 |
| @sonney2k | lionelc_, and congrats! | 21:27 |
| lionelc_ | sonney2k: thanks. I will keep an eye on shogun as I myself may use it | 21:27 |
| josip | sonney2k: I would be interested. but my gemran work permit will expire after I graduate in june | 21:27 |
| josip | I think | 21:27 |
| Tanmoy | @sonney2k and shogun team prolly wld contribute next year | 21:28 |
| Tanmoy | wld still keep the patches coming | 21:28 |
| Tanmoy | :) | 21:28 |
| josip | anyway I gtg, ttyl guts | 21:29 |
| josip | guys* | 21:29 |
| josip | congrats once gain | 21:29 |
| alesis-novik | I do wonder how the whole thing registers... | 21:29 |
| @sonney2k | josip, there is always a way... | 21:29 |
| alesis-novik | And how do I pay taxes or not or whatever other weird things I need to do... | 21:29 |
| @sonney2k | cu | 21:29 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, no idea either | 21:29 |
| blackburn | 1116 students | 21:31 |
| serialhex | sonney2k, i'm still interested in working for you over the summer | 21:33 |
| * serialhex would rather flip bits than burgers | 21:33 | |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, today is public holiday in germany ... but I will try to figure out what is possible... | 21:34 |
| serialhex | ok cool | 21:34 |
| @sonney2k | lionelc_, glad to year that you might be using shogun - all feedback / patches welcome - as always. | 21:34 |
| lionelc_ | sonney2k: yes, it is definitely strong in kernel-related functionality. will use it. | 21:36 |
| sploving | congraduation to all the accepted students | 21:36 |
| sploving | i have to go to sleep see you | 21:36 |
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| @sonney2k | yes congrats sploving, blackburn alesis-novik, heiko, dvevre - now lets have fun and do some great things over this summer! | 21:38 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: let's do it :) | 21:38 |
| @bettyboo | funny ;) | 21:38 |
| alesis-novik | Yes! | 21:38 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: I'm happy with you getting it | 21:38 |
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| alesis-novik | Plan CCCP initiated! | 21:39 |
| blackburn | yeaaah | 21:39 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: we should rename shogun to CCCP.. | 21:39 |
| serialhex | cccp? oh yeah i remember :P | 21:39 |
| * serialhex shakes his head at the silly russians | 21:40 | |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I know destructors shall be renamed to stalin ;-) | 21:40 |
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| blackburn | sonney2k: and constructor, don't forget about constructors | 21:41 |
| blackburn | btw, 21 april was birthday of lenin | 21:41 |
| dvevre | sonney2k: yeah!!! :) | 21:41 |
| serialhex | lol you need help blackburn!! | 21:41 |
| alesis-novik | yes blackburn, it will be to difficult to do alone | 21:45 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: we will rock it! | 21:45 |
| blackburn | have to go now | 21:46 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: thank you! ;) | 21:46 |
| @sonney2k | some more serious question: is it ok for everyone to keep the github working way, i.e. ask all questions publicly on the mailinglist / this irc channel and then send patches to github? | 21:46 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: it is ok to me | 21:46 |
| dvevre | sonney2k: yeah, that's good | 21:47 |
| @sonney2k | ok | 21:48 |
| alesis-novik | What would be the other option? | 21:48 |
| serialhex | i like it sonney2k | 21:48 |
| @sonney2k | well some students are very afraid of posting to the mailinglist | 21:48 |
| @sonney2k | and only want to talk to mentors in private.... | 21:49 |
| @sonney2k | (even though they are as skilled as the other subscribers to the mailinglist) | 21:49 |
| @sonney2k | so that can be a problem for them - they would rather not ask questions | 21:50 |
| blackburn | btw they fixed links | 21:51 |
| serialhex | vowpal wabbit - reminds me of vorpal bunnies from monty python :P | 21:54 |
| serialhex | like elmer fudd is hunting vowpal wabbits :P | 21:55 |
| dvevre | serialhex: yeah, they got the name from there :) | 21:56 |
| alesis-novik | Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting fow a vowpal wabbit. Hahahahaha | 21:56 |
| serialhex | yep, i'm reading about it now, it looks cool - a fast online learing alg! | 21:57 |
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| skydiver | sonney2k: would you mind if i implement idea of my proposal (Kernel Feature Analysis) regardless of my acceptance to your organization?)) | 22:21 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, of course not - what is the gsoc link id you used in your application? | 22:22 |
| skydiver | what is 'link id'? | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, I think mlsec aka Konrad would be more than happy to mentor you... | 22:23 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, you are andrew? | 22:24 |
| skydiver | oh | 22:24 |
| skydiver | yep | 22:24 |
| @sonney2k | ok, I will talk to mlsec but you were one of his top candidates anyway so I am sure he will support you | 22:26 |
| @mlsec | great to hear. | 22:26 |
| skydiver | good news | 22:26 |
| * mlsec gets push notifications to his phone, once his name is mentioned in the channel | 22:26 | |
| @mlsec | oh. tv | 22:27 |
| @mlsec | cya | 22:27 |
| serialhex | thats pretty spiffy mlsec! | 22:27 |
| skydiver | don't you think it's too disturbing? | 22:27 |
| serialhex | what is too disturbing? that he knows when you're talking about him?? :P | 22:27 |
| @mlsec | well, a push notification does not necessary have sound | 22:27 |
| @mlsec | and hey, how often do you mention my nick!? once a week. | 22:28 |
| * sonney2k will mention mlsec every now and then... from now on :D | 22:31 | |
| @sonney2k | bettyboo, is mlsec your master? | 22:31 |
| @bettyboo | sonney2k: only if you do hard to grasp stuff comments are welcome - otherwise having comments there hints that your code is unreadable. | 22:31 |
| @sonney2k | bettyboo, thought so | 22:31 |
| @bettyboo | sonney2k: that's true, I thought you meant something different | 22:31 |
| @sonney2k | anyways, skydiver just ask mlsec how he thinks would be the best way to proceed and then I have seen your git pull requests before - so your code was nice and I will merge small functioning pieces. | 22:33 |
| @mlsec | bettyboo learnt some new tricks.. | 22:33 |
| @bettyboo | mlsec: Have you learnt enough today? | 22:33 |
| @mlsec | Yes, I am off. We talk later | 22:33 |
| skydiver | sonney2k: ok, i have now some other projects, but planning to start in may | 22:35 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, yes sure. | 22:36 |
| skydiver | sonney2k: now i'm experementing with random forest on my dataset with SNP | 22:36 |
| @sonney2k | heh | 22:36 |
| alesis-novik | sonney2k, so you are thinking of ways the org can fund another student or two? | 22:36 |
| skydiver | by the way - i was accepted with another proposal | 22:37 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, yes, but we don't know how to do it legally though... | 22:37 |
| @sonney2k | that is the problem | 22:37 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, congrats | 22:37 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, which one? | 22:37 |
| skydiver | copy/paste detection algorithm | 22:37 |
| serialhex | beer sonney2k!!!! fund us with beer!!! :P | 22:38 |
| skydiver | for Sonar project (Codehaus) | 22:38 |
| blackburn | here I am! rock you like a hurricane! | 22:39 |
| serialhex | nice, congrats skydiver! | 22:39 |
| serialhex | lol blackburn!! | 22:39 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, sounds also like an interesting ml application | 22:40 |
| skydiver | good night and good luck with your projects :) | 22:40 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, yes - cu in may then! | 22:40 |
| skydiver | sonney2k: not actually ml, i think :) | 22:40 |
| skydiver | sonney2k: but nevertheless can be interesting algorithmically | 22:41 |
| @sonney2k | skydiver, ok easier than that if 100% copy pase | 22:41 |
| @sonney2k | paste | 22:41 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, you rock the PRC :) | 22:41 |
| blackburn | oh.. yeah I should | 22:41 |
| blackburn | but a biiiiit later | 22:41 |
| @sonney2k | a few beers later yes | 22:41 |
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| blackburn | unfortunately I'm not drinking ;( | 22:42 |
| blackburn | now I mean :D | 22:42 |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, you americans(?) don't have any reasonable beer right - but shipping costs from germany are stellar! | 22:42 |
| serialhex | yeah, i imagine | 22:42 |
| serialhex | and most of our good beer is imported | 22:43 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, heh ... I know beer is considered more like water in your country - we do a chat session after gsoc where we all salute with some russian wodka :) | 22:43 |
| blackburn | :D | 22:43 |
| akhil_ | Congrats to everyone who got selected for gsoc | 22:43 |
| blackburn | thank you! | 22:44 |
| alesis-novik | Thanks! | 22:45 |
| * sonney2k and official apologies to everyone who we did/could not accept | 22:45 | |
| serialhex | well, i'm off for a bit, bbl, and congrats to all who were accepted!!! | 22:46 |
| Tanmoy | hey guys im off too....and congrats to the ppl who got selected again | 22:53 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: what's up with your baby buggy wheel? :) | 22:53 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I failed totally | 22:53 |
| @sonney2k | tried to fix it 3 times now | 22:53 |
| @sonney2k | will buy a new inner tube now | 22:54 |
| @sonney2k | the region where the hole is - is rather perforated already ... | 22:54 |
| blackburn | btw, what is with the fever? | 22:55 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, everone is feeling much better | 22:57 |
| @sonney2k | :) | 22:57 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: nice to hear that, but who is everyone? :) | 22:58 |
| @sonney2k | baby and her mother :) | 22:58 |
| blackburn | oh | 22:58 |
| * blackburn runs sqldeveloper, oracle xe and netbeans :) | 23:06 | |
| blackburn | sonney2k: hehe remarked me in "On the GSoC Student Selection Process" | 23:12 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, didn't want you to turn red or so so I left out the name... | 23:13 |
| blackburn | I'm really just like пионер | 23:13 |
| @sonney2k | I don't know if this email was helpful - but I know how it is to be rejected... | 23:13 |
| * sonney2k had enough papers being rejected | 23:13 | |
| @sonney2k | so I just wanted to clarify a bit... | 23:13 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: yeah, you did it right way | 23:14 |
| blackburn | btw, some of rejected is accepted to other org | 23:14 |
| @sonney2k | which is good :) | 23:14 |
| blackburn | I have seen bartunov in apache | 23:14 |
| blackburn | Andrew is accepted to codehaus too | 23:14 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, bartunov was very strong too... | 23:15 |
| blackburn | hm. I read his proposal in mailing list | 23:15 |
| blackburn | it seems not to be very motivated to me | 23:16 |
| blackburn | but you know better :) | 23:16 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, it is not only the proposal that counts... | 23:17 |
| blackburn | btw, was there any really bad proposals? | 23:17 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes some | 23:17 |
| blackburn | just like 'i-don't-know-anything-but-guess-I-will-do-it' | 23:18 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yeah and promise all but do nothing type .... | 23:18 |
| blackburn | we really have to do 100% this summer | 23:18 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes | 23:19 |
| blackburn | I was laughing a little about nationalities :) just like in some anecdotes | 23:19 |
| blackburn | russian, lithuanian, hindu, german, chinese | 23:20 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: how can I help you after your baby is born and you will not have much time? | 23:28 |
| blackburn | I know I already asked you :) | 23:31 |
| @sonney2k | no concrete ideas - stick around in the channel / mailinglist and help the other students if you have too much time - but most important work on your project I guess :) | 23:31 |
| @bettyboo | ho | 23:32 |
| blackburn | ah, okay | 23:32 |
| blackburn | but I will work on my project just right I wrote it :) now I have some time to give a boost to some other affairs and learn more about things I have to do | 23:33 |
| blackburn | and of course I have to finish precision-recall and then start working on graph class | 23:33 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, do all of your dim red methods need a graph class? | 23:34 |
| * sonney2k is too lazy to look in the proposal | 23:35 | |
| blackburn | sonney2k: mds don't | 23:35 |
| blackburn | isomap, lle do | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | then my suggestion would be to start with the one that doesn't .... | 23:35 |
| blackburn | why? | 23:35 |
| @sonney2k | easier? | 23:35 |
| blackburn | hm.. I don't know | 23:36 |
| blackburn | will mind it | 23:36 |
| @sonney2k | but as I said I know that you know what you are doing (most of the time :D ) so just do it... | 23:37 |
| @mlsec | a graph class sounds like a slight overkill to just store the knn and their distances | 23:37 |
| blackburn | mlsec: do you think so? | 23:38 |
| blackburn | mlsec: but in isomap i have to compute geodesical distance.. | 23:39 |
| blackburn | do you really get notify on your phone? :) | 23:39 |
| @mlsec | blackburn: essentially, you need to keep track of k neighbors for each point. that's very simple compared to a generic graph | 23:39 |
| @mlsec | the geodesic distance, is just a different vectorial dissimilarity measure, afaik. | 23:39 |
| @mlsec | blackburn: no, i didn't got notified. i just used the time during a commercial break to look for irc | 23:40 |
| @mlsec | back to teevee | 23:40 |
| blackburn | mlsec: I mean you said you get notify ;) | 23:41 |
| blackburn | I think at first I will implement some algo in python to get better comprehension | 23:42 |
| blackburn | but now I'm agree with you, I really do not need graph for lle :) | 23:42 |
| blackburn | mlsec: thank you, I really was wrong | 23:47 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: oh, another task from you :) | 23:49 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, not a big one though... | 23:50 |
| blackburn | yeah | 23:50 |
| @sonney2k | I hope that is not scary.... | 23:50 |
| blackburn | not at all, started writing | 23:51 |
| @sonney2k | when gsoc runs I think we will need sth. like weekly progress reports | 23:51 |
| @sonney2k | I will have to discuss with the mentors. | 23:51 |
| blackburn | hm! good you remind me | 23:51 |
| @sonney2k | only a few lines though | 23:51 |
| blackburn | will write to Chris now :) | 23:51 |
| @sonney2k | anyway | 23:51 |
| @sonney2k | I will go to bed now | 23:51 |
| @sonney2k | l8r | 23:51 |
| blackburn | see you | 23:51 |
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