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| Ziyuan | So no one is selected for KFA | 03:39 |
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| blackburn | morge! | 09:18 |
| blackburn | n* | 09:18 |
| blackburn | :) | 09:18 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: what's up with my 'introduction', is it alright? | 09:18 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes thanks | 09:36 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I even received some reference to diffusion maps technique from Jesse Berwald | 09:38 |
| blackburn | it was a good idea to ask for some good papers :) | 09:39 |
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| heiko | hi there | 11:33 |
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| @sonney2k | Hi heiko - saw your mail was directed to us personally - would you mind to send it to the mailinglist? | 12:01 |
| heiko | hi, oh I thought I did. Ok I will resend it | 12:01 |
| @sonney2k | thanks | 12:02 |
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| @sonney2k | heiko, ahh you replied to my email - that explains it :) | 12:24 |
| @sonney2k | f-x`, are you frx? | 12:36 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, do you have some time? If sou would you mind trying to already now get a minimal java example to work? | 12:43 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, I mean this week? | 12:43 |
| sploving | this week, it is ok, but not today | 12:43 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, np | 12:44 |
| sploving | sonney2k, do you mean that I should finish java first? | 12:44 |
| @sonney2k | it is just better to make some progress this week such that when I am away for some time you know what to do / and mikio can sufficiently help | 12:45 |
| sploving | ok. enjoy your life with family | 12:45 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, I now know you can easily do lua - right? So even running a minimal java example and writing a simple typemap for java would convince me that the project is in good hands :) | 12:46 |
| @bettyboo | 8) | 12:46 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, will be a tough time with close to zero sleep... | 12:46 |
| @sonney2k | f-x`, you are :) | 12:47 |
| @sonney2k | I think we need to discuss this issue we currently discuss on github here | 12:48 |
| sploving | sonney2k, are mikio in irc? or when I have quesition, use the email? | 12:48 |
| sploving | another thing, when you are away, do you check email? or do you have the time to check the github? | 12:49 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, so far use email - I didn't discuss with the mentors yet | 12:49 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, I will somehow manage or someone else will do for me. | 12:50 |
| sploving | sonney2k, ok. | 12:51 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, around? | 12:51 |
| heiko | hi, yes now | 13:05 |
| heiko | was out for lunch | 13:05 |
| heiko | does the current git compile for you? mine fails | 13:06 |
| heiko | distributions/Gaussian.cpp:62: error: ‘clapack_dpotri’ was not declared in this scope | 13:08 |
| heiko | i suppose this is caused by some #defines | 13:08 |
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| f-x | sonney2k: yes, this is frx :) | 14:28 |
| @bettyboo | :Q | 14:28 |
| f-x | hated my old nick actually | 14:28 |
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| @sonney2k | heiko, could it be that you don't have the most recent git? | 14:42 |
| heiko | sonney2k, no I am up-to-date | 14:43 |
| heiko | I commented out the line for now ... | 14:44 |
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| @sonney2k | heiko, hmmhh and you have lapack installed but not atlas? | 14:45 |
| heiko | yes | 14:46 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, what I don't understand is that libshogun/lib/lapack.cpp contains the definition for clapack_dpotri then | 14:48 |
| heiko | yes, strange ... | 14:49 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, ahh found the problem - it is missing in the laapack.h | 14:50 |
| @sonney2k | fixing... | 14:50 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rc08a1e4 / src/libshogun/lib/lapack.h : add clapack_dpotri definition to header file - http://bit.ly/igDfoZ | 14:50 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, splovin, f-x, which timezone are you in? | 14:51 |
| f-x | 6:22 PM now | 14:51 |
| f-x | sonney2k: me at GMT+5:30 | 14:51 |
| heiko | sonney2k, you fixed it :) | 14:52 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, so it works? | 14:52 |
| heiko | think so... | 14:53 |
| @sonney2k | heiko - I don't know how much time you have this week but it would be important to make some progress on the parameter concept | 14:53 |
| heiko | yes, I think so | 14:54 |
| heiko | I have time | 14:54 |
| @sonney2k | great! | 14:54 |
| heiko | just started a bit on a class for generating indices, but this can wait | 14:54 |
| heiko | I also had a brief look at scikit-learn | 14:55 |
| @sonney2k | your poc code was fine with me what is missing now is to be able to actually set parameters :) | 14:55 |
| @bettyboo | sonney2k, :*) | 14:55 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, OK.... | 14:55 |
| heiko | some questions on this: | 14:55 |
| @sonney2k | I think we should have a kick-off meeting with all the mentors rathor soon | 14:55 |
| heiko | it should be possible only to select certain variables for x-val | 14:56 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, I will probable be 100% away starting from tuesday next week for 1-2 weeks. so we should try hard to have the concept ready - you could then easily implement the feature index things for simple / sparse features and write some python examples for that | 14:57 |
| @sonney2k | (while I am away) | 14:57 |
| heiko | ok | 14:58 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, I would propose to introduce a abstract function void register_param()=0; in CSGObject | 14:58 |
| heiko | so I will concentrate on that | 14:58 |
| @sonney2k | or at least every class needs a private method like that | 14:58 |
| @sonney2k | and call it upon construction | 14:58 |
| heiko | ok, and all parameters are registered in this method | 14:59 |
| @sonney2k | and then we have 2 parameter objects one for x-val and one for serialization | 14:59 |
| @sonney2k | yes | 14:59 |
| heiko | should this parameter object contain parameters which are AVAILABLE for x-validation or these that are actually used | 14:59 |
| @sonney2k | while that is easy to do (but a lot of work) setting / getting is more difficult | 15:00 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, all AVAILABLE | 15:00 |
| heiko | ok | 15:00 |
| heiko | so they are acutally included by these setters | 15:00 |
| @sonney2k | serialization you mean? | 15:00 |
| @sonney2k | x-val param is a subset of serialization param if you meant that | 15:01 |
| heiko | no i mean if you want to only determine one of the parameters by cross-val and let the other one stay fixed | 15:01 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, one has to specify the parameters one wants to do model selection for | 15:01 |
| @sonney2k | and x-val is done for all of them who are specified | 15:02 |
| @sonney2k | the others have default values | 15:02 |
| heiko | yes, ok | 15:02 |
| heiko | this is the way as it works on scikit-learn. you give the name of all parameters to a gridSearch class for example | 15:03 |
| @sonney2k | I am thinking of passing some kind of lists of parameter ranges to the model selection object that then generates an instance with a fixed parameter setting which then can be directly set using the x-val param | 15:03 |
| @sonney2k | sounds great - so we could have a modelselection base class and then overload certain functions to do e.g. grid search or so | 15:04 |
| heiko | yes, I also thought of something like this | 15:04 |
| heiko | in addition to parameter ranges, the type is also important, natural numbers, real ... and also the type of iteration: linearly, exponentially | 15:06 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, yes - we should be able to derive that from our CParameter class for the parameters - but I guess will need some extrensions | 15:07 |
| heiko | ok, but what did you want to say about the setting/getting of parameters? | 15:08 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, yes - we can easily register parameters using either abstract or non abstract register_param() classes | 15:09 |
| @sonney2k | but now we need to set / get the values | 15:09 |
| @sonney2k | and that is currently missing | 15:10 |
| heiko | do you think this should work by name? | 15:11 |
| heiko | parameter name I mean | 15:11 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, yes but we know the name - look at base/CParameter.h | 15:12 |
| @sonney2k | there is currently only a load / save function though | 15:12 |
| @sonney2k | the loading/saving of shogun parameters is done via CSGObject::load_serializable() etc but it will do that for all parameters and from file only | 15:13 |
| heiko | but we need to be able to set each parameter separately | 15:14 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, yeah look at Parameter.cpp - line 1619 | 15:14 |
| @sonney2k | that does it already - but from file | 15:15 |
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| heiko | reading ... | 15:19 |
| heiko | are there actually any non-scalar type parameters? | 15:19 |
| heiko | (to be determined) | 15:19 |
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| heiko | sonney2k, I have some duties now for 90 minutes. are you still there afterwards? If not, I will be online tomorrow from about 10:30am german time. | 15:42 |
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| @sonney2k | heiko, ok - yes it works for matrices sg objects etc | 15:44 |
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| @sonney2k | just ping me - I might be around in the evening | 15:44 |
| heiko | no i meant cross-validationm parameters | 15:44 |
| @sonney2k | heiko, ? but it is the same thing? | 15:45 |
| @sonney2k | parameters work for scalars, vectors, matrices, SGObjects | 15:45 |
| @sonney2k | though we will probably start with scalars :) | 15:45 |
| heiko | ;) hehe, ok ... see you later | 15:46 |
| @bettyboo | funny | 15:46 |
| @sonney2k | strings and sparse matrices of course | 15:46 |
| @sonney2k | ok later | 15:46 |
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| @sonney2k | wow! nice thunderstorm over berlin | 16:29 |
| serialhex | i love thunderstorms | 16:49 |
| serialhex | good morning/evening/night all! :P | 16:50 |
| serialhex | ...is anyone awake in here??? | 16:55 |
| @sonney2k | as always :) | 17:11 |
| @bettyboo | <:*) | 17:11 |
| serialhex | sonney2k, any news on the additional student thing?? | 17:17 |
| @sonney2k | not yet | 17:20 |
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| serialhex | oi blackburn, how are you today?? | 17:50 |
| blackburn | hello :) | 17:50 |
| blackburn | fine, just came home, how are you? | 17:50 |
| serialhex | pretty good, jut finishing breakfast :D | 17:50 |
| blackburn | now watching for new screen for my broken glofiish x800 :) | 18:04 |
| serialhex | do wah?? 800 broken glofish on your new screen??? | 18:06 |
| * serialhex is confused :P | 18:06 | |
| blackburn | ah sorry seems my english is terrible again :) | 18:07 |
| blackburn | I broke my smartphone | 18:07 |
| blackburn | Glofiish x800 | 18:07 |
| blackburn | and now want to order new touchscreen :) | 18:07 |
| @bettyboo | yep | 18:08 |
| serialhex | ahh, i see | 18:08 |
| serialhex | i thought you had 800 glo_fish_ (whatever kind of fish that is) that were broken (how one can break a fish IDK!) and you were watching a new screen for them for some reason :P | 18:09 |
| blackburn | :D such a strange | 18:10 |
| serialhex | it's ok that your engligh is a bit broken, it's usually humorous | 18:10 |
| blackburn | having better english could be better for me :) | 18:10 |
| serialhex | well i hope you get a new screen, from my expierence though it's almost easier (and cheaper) to buy a new phone/laptop (it's almost certainly cheaper to do that with laptops, i can't seem to ever find screens for laptops) | 18:12 |
| serialhex | and the more you speek & practice the better you will get at english, so dont worry :D | 18:13 |
| blackburn | serialhex: it is 20$ cost so I hope I will get one | 18:14 |
| serialhex | the screen is $20??? that either way inexpencive or the american dollar is WAY inflated :P | 18:15 |
| serialhex | (oh, and a tip blackburn, my spelling sometimes really sucks, so don't try and spell like me) | 18:16 |
| blackburn | I don't know I just write what comes in my mind :) | 18:17 |
| serialhex | no problem | 18:17 |
| blackburn | may be will have time for some grammar exercises ;) | 18:17 |
| serialhex | but $20 for a phone screen?? do you have any pictures of this phone?? | 18:17 |
| * serialhex thinks that can be my summer project for shogun :P | 18:18 | |
| blackburn | http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LCD-Screen-E-TEN-ETEN-Glofiish-X800-X500-/220717400358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3363c84126#ht_1909wt_907 | 18:18 |
| blackburn | in case we can trust it :) | 18:18 |
| serialhex | yeah :) | 18:19 |
| serialhex | how about pics of the phone itself?? | 18:19 |
| serialhex | no worries got it | 18:19 |
| blackburn | :) | 18:20 |
| blackburn | was just searching for some good one | 18:20 |
| serialhex | eww, it's one of those windoze things... :P | 18:20 |
| serialhex | People say that if you play Microsoft CD’s backwards, you hear satanic things, but that’s nothing, because if you play them forwards, they install Windows. | 18:21 |
| blackburn | yeah, i don't like it too :) | 18:21 |
| serialhex | though it looks spiffy... besides the OS i like it! | 18:21 |
| blackburn | anyway now I use my old ericsson :) and not _sony_ ericsson | 18:22 |
| serialhex | cool, do you know if you have gsm or cdma type cell service there?? | 18:22 |
| blackburn | gsm | 18:23 |
| serialhex | figured... my bro is a cellphone-tech fanatic and said gsm is everywhere, just double checking his info :P | 18:23 |
| @bettyboo | lolomat | 18:23 |
| blackburn | I even don't know if there was cdma | 18:24 |
| serialhex | afaik, it's only in the us, south korea and like uzbekistan or somewhere.... | 18:24 |
| blackburn | uzbekistan :D | 18:25 |
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| serialhex | yeah.... it's some country in the middle of eastern europe or the desert somewhere... it may be located on mars even, idk :D | 18:26 |
| blackburn | ahh, have to go now | 18:28 |
| blackburn | will be a bit later ;) | 18:29 |
| serialhex | ok, take care!! | 18:29 |
| * serialhex feels like an idiot, uzbekistan is a real country :P | 18:30 | |
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| blackburn | yeah, uzbekistan is a real country :) | 19:10 |
| serialhex | blackburn, they dont teach geography very well here in the states... i'd be suprised if most americans could name half of the 50 states (i know i can't name all of them :P) | 19:59 |
| blackburn | serialhex: I can't name them too :) | 20:00 |
| @bettyboo | lolomat | 20:00 |
| serialhex | yeah, but you dont live here :P | 20:00 |
| blackburn | but I know all NHL teams :) | 20:00 |
| serialhex | lol, nice!! | 20:01 |
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| @sonney2k | blackburn, Здравствуйте! | 20:24 |
| blackburn | wow :) sonney2k, добрый вечер! | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r219ee4a / src/modular/Evaluation.i : | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Rename base class Evaluation to BaseEvaluation to fix naming clash in | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: java_modular - http://bit.ly/hwInMU | 20:25 |
| @sonney2k | indeed more appropriate | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r110c451 / src/configure : | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Include linux path in jni generation and improve java detection for | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: official jdk's. - http://bit.ly/gW9h0w | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * r7233fdb / (5 files): | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Add missing includes for feature type and compressor type and re-enable | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: init_shogun / exit_shogun such that these can be called from | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: java_modular. - http://bit.ly/eaDv1z | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rd91b629 / (3 files in 3 dirs): | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: Include FeatureType.h needed by these modules and drop unused classify | 20:25 |
| CIA-110 | shogun: function causing trouble in java modular. - http://bit.ly/gN9QIU | 20:25 |
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| @sonney2k | poor cia bot | 20:25 |
| @sonney2k | mlsec, can't you add an exception for CIA-*? | 20:26 |
| @sonney2k | hmmhh, does alesis-novik has his exams today? | 20:26 |
| @sonney2k | does anyone know? | 20:26 |
| @sonney2k | ahh btw, blackburn which timezone are you in? | 20:27 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: it seems so | 20:27 |
| @sonney2k | UTC+3? | 20:27 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: moscow, +2 from you | 20:27 |
| blackburn | yeah | 20:27 |
| @sonney2k | we are UTC+2 currently (daylight saving time!) | 20:27 |
| blackburn | ah | 20:27 |
| blackburn | so is it ~21-27 in germany? | 20:27 |
| @sonney2k | no 20:27 | 20:28 |
| blackburn | hm | 20:28 |
| blackburn | I'm tangled :) | 20:28 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, and what's your local time now? | 20:28 |
| blackburn | is utc+2 = gmt+1? | 20:28 |
| blackburn | 22-28 | 20:28 |
| @sonney2k | so UTC+4 | 20:28 |
| blackburn | oh I see | 20:29 |
| blackburn | yes it is utc+4 | 20:29 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, check yourselve http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=37 | 20:29 |
| @sonney2k | I'd like to meet tomorror here on IRC at 13:00 UTC | 20:29 |
| @sonney2k | with all potential mentors/students | 20:29 |
| @sonney2k | (time is pressing a bit here - I only have 6 more days...) | 20:29 |
| blackburn | seems I can't :( | 20:30 |
| blackburn | have studies at univesity.. | 20:30 |
| blackburn | university* | 20:31 |
| @sonney2k | too bad - I cannot really postpone it now. | 20:31 |
| @sonney2k | so you will have to check the channel logs then | 20:31 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: what kind of meeting it is? | 20:31 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, just introduction to mentors/students and how we plan to proceed in general | 20:32 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, are you around ? | 20:32 |
| f-x | yes, yes! | 20:32 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: is it okay I will only check the logs? | 20:33 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, ahh great. I still don't understand why you want to allocate everything in one block! | 20:33 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, yes sure - you can talk to chris / mlsec later too. | 20:33 |
| blackburn | I will be around tomorrow till 8-30 utc | 20:33 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, I think both of them will still sleep | 20:34 |
| f-x | sonney2k: no particular reason.... i thought that was similar to the way done in VW, that's all | 20:34 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I already have some discussion with chris. but mlsec..? | 20:34 |
| f-x | i can do it in two separate blocks, like i mentioned | 20:34 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, using new[] is beneficial in the sense that we have proper exception handling in case of out of memory | 20:34 |
| alesis-novik | Good evening | 20:34 |
| blackburn | alesis-novik: hello, how are your exams? | 20:34 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, ok I mean I will talk to them so no problem. | 20:35 |
| alesis-novik | horribly wrong :/ | 20:35 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, hmhhh - what timezone are you in? | 20:35 |
| alesis-novik | 0(or +1 due to DST) | 20:35 |
| @sonney2k | UTC+1 ? | 20:36 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I mean why mlsec? | 20:36 |
| alesis-novik | BST, I think it is UTC+1 | 20:36 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, try http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=37 | 20:37 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, he is your co-mentor | 20:37 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: I'm surprised :D | 20:38 |
| blackburn | a lot surprised | 20:38 |
| alesis-novik | sonney2k, yes, it's UTC+1 during the summer | 20:38 |
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| alesis-novik | Why do you need the time zone info? | 20:39 |
| serialhex | sonney2k: blackburn is in the same timezone as moscow; alesis-novik is in london... and i think i have a few more here :P | 20:39 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, wanted to discuss about how to proceed tomorrow 13:00 UTC | 20:39 |
| alesis-novik | I'll have an exam 13:30... | 20:39 |
| -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #shogun to: Shogun Machine Learning Toolbox | We participate in GSoC with 5 projects http://bit.ly/eI31bL | Kick-off meeting Wednesday Apr 26 at 13:00 UTC | Channel logs http://bit.ly/eQDk8Q | 20:40 | |
| blackburn | sonney2k: can we proceed it for example at 16-00 utc? :) | 20:40 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, yes sorry it is too short notice and we are too many anyways... | 20:41 |
| @sonney2k | I mean 5 mentors + 5 students | 20:41 |
| @sonney2k | no way everyone will have time | 20:41 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, we can have another meeting at a later time point. | 20:42 |
| serialhex | yeah, but during the meeting they're going to say bad things about you blackburn and then erase it from the log :P | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | sploving, around? | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, exactly! | 20:43 |
| @sonney2k | that is what we do usually when blackburn is not online :D | 20:43 |
| blackburn | :D | 20:43 |
| blackburn | you will criticize my idea about stalin and lenin :`( | 20:44 |
| alesis-novik | And I won't be there to defend it | 20:44 |
| blackburn | awful! | 20:44 |
| serialhex | dont worry blackburn, i'll be able to tell you all the horrible things they say about you... unless sonney2k threatens me :( | 20:44 |
| * sonney2k considers this a chance! | 20:44 | |
| serialhex | lol | 20:44 |
| * sonney2k finally fixed the baby buggy wheel - yikes! | 20:45 | |
| blackburn | serialhex: just do not trust I have my own nuclear missile and drinking vodka with background of balalayka music | 20:45 |
| alesis-novik | Good job sonney2k. | 20:45 |
| @sonney2k | anyway, sploving I finally gotten a minimal java example to work with shogun :) | 20:45 |
| serialhex | sweet!! i was getting worried about your mechanical skills for a second there sonney2k | 20:45 |
| serialhex | lol blackburn!!! | 20:45 |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, does buying a new inner tube count? | 20:46 |
| @sonney2k | it was just too perforated ... | 20:46 |
| serialhex | hey, at least you _fixed_ it... most people here would just buy a new one :-/ | 20:47 |
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| blackburn | serialhex: no! I will drink vodka and break the whole buggy in that case | 20:47 |
| @sonney2k | serialhex, well I had to buy a new one - didn't work | 20:47 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, by putting a nuclear missle on top | 20:47 |
| @sonney2k | I guess | 20:47 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: and putting a bear inside | 20:48 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, no way you can get a more reliable IRC client? | 20:48 |
| alesis-novik | blackburn, just get the bear from the street right? I mean, polar bears still roam the streets of Moscow, don't they? | 20:49 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, using malloc etc would work but since we already get nice exceptions in shogun when new or new[] fails I would prefer that | 20:49 |
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| blackburn | alesis-novik: oh thank you I have to walk on with my bear | 20:49 |
| serialhex | sonney2k: you bought a new inner tube... i know people here who would buy a new buggy! | 20:49 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, offline again? | 20:50 |
| f-x | sonney2k: internet's pathetic right now.. it will be alright tomorrow onwards, hopefully.. | 20:50 |
| blackburn | sorry I launched my missile to India :D | 20:51 |
| alesis-novik | serialhex, ah you 'mericuns (extreme generalization) (I hope I got the country right) | 20:51 |
| f-x | trying through my phone now.. | 20:51 |
| blackburn | amerikun | 20:51 |
| serialhex | alesis-novik you didn't get it right, blackburn did :P | 20:52 |
| serialhex | it's more like U.S. and everyone else is Them :D | 20:52 |
| * sonney2k celebrates the first shogun java example http://pastebin.com/59EwA0X4 | 20:53 | |
| alesis-novik | serialhex, dammit. From what I hear, people tend to use antibiotics for everything in the US, is that true? | 20:53 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, ahh that limits your typing speed... did you see my last messages? | 20:53 |
| f-x | sonney2k: i see.. so i'll change the code to make two memory blocks - one for example objects, other for feature vectors.. is that okay? | 20:53 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, I am always confused when you say example object. What is that? | 20:54 |
| serialhex | there are a lot of people who take drugs for various things alesis-novik... though for _everything_ not really | 20:54 |
| @sonney2k | to me feature vector is just some float64_t* | 20:54 |
| @sonney2k | I mean the actual array | 20:54 |
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| serialhex | for instance: my mom is all into organic/holistic stuff, and is *certain* that organic things are all good for you (even after i point out that poison ivy is _organic_ and offer it to her in a salad, she still dosnt want it for some reason :P ) | 20:55 |
| f-x | oh no! i see 'activity' flashing in the title, but can't figure out how to scroll down the frame in opera mobile!! x( | 20:55 |
| alesis-novik | Anywau, | 20:56 |
| alesis-novik | Anyway, off to study for tomorrows exam | 20:56 |
| serialhex | and i'm off to the college for a bit... later all! | 20:56 |
| @sonney2k | alesis-novik, good luck! | 20:56 |
| @sonney2k | l8r | 20:56 |
| alesis-novik | Hopefully it will go better than today's one... | 20:56 |
| alesis-novik | See you | 20:56 |
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| @sonney2k | f-x_, <sonney2k> f-x, I am always confused when you say example object. What is that? | 20:57 |
| @sonney2k | <serialhex> there are a lot of people who take drugs for various things alesis-novik... though for _everything_ not really | 20:57 |
| @sonney2k | <sonney2k> to me feature vector is just some float64_t* | 20:57 |
| @sonney2k | <sonney2k> I mean the actual array | 20:57 |
| @sonney2k | ^^^ seen that? | 20:57 |
| f-x_ | sonney2k: saw now, but screen fast filling up! | 20:58 |
| @sonney2k | f-x, you really need to get a real irc client... on my mobile I use andchat ... | 20:59 |
| @sonney2k | anyways I don't understand why you need more than 1 alloc | 20:59 |
| f-x_ | example object has label, length and pointer to the vector only.. the actual vector is in the space alloced by new | 20:59 |
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| @sonney2k | f-x_, but you know beforehand that your buffer can store / prefetch say 1000 objects only | 21:00 |
| @sonney2k | so you could allocate the label and length objects already then | 21:01 |
| @sonney2k | and only allocate the vector when you read it. | 21:01 |
| f-x_ | sonney2k: true, but then i'd have to use 'new' and 'free' after every vector is read, right? | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | f-x_, only after it has been released by the learner | 21:05 |
| @sonney2k | new[] and delete[] | 21:05 |
| f-x_ | yes.. so i will have: fv=new float[size] or whatever each time a new vector is read? there isnt any problem with that, right? i'm worried about too much memory being used up, but delete[] should take care of it | 21:09 |
| f-x_ | actually, this is good since now vector length need not be constant (as it was till now) | 21:10 |
| @sonney2k | f-x_, you could even do it withouth ever calling new[] delete[] while reading: just let the user specify that he wants say 20MB of buffer | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | and then you read in until the buffer fills up | 21:12 |
| @sonney2k | then wait until an example is released and read again | 21:12 |
| f-x_ | one minute, have to refresh.. aarghh!! | 21:13 |
| @sonney2k | f-x_, but you will need to fread()'s one for the label and one for the data | 21:13 |
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| f-x | sonney2k: could you paste the last message please? | 21:17 |
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| blackburn | sonney2k: it's мучительно | 21:20 |
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| blackburn | sonney2k: Chris suggested me skype meetings -> I'm terrified :D | 21:25 |
| @bettyboo | cool!! | 21:25 |
| @sonney2k | blackburn, why? | 21:25 |
| blackburn | sonney2k: you see my english when writing, my speaking is damn worse at factor of 1e6 | 21:26 |
| blackburn | with my level of speaking I'd better write a report as poem than have some audience :) | 21:29 |
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| CIA-90 | shogun: Soeren Sonnenburg master * rade1c3d / examples/undocumented/java_modular/minimal_test.java : minimal java example - http://bit.ly/dHFAmw | 21:33 |
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| blackburn | sonney2k: around? | 22:42 |
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